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"beachshark" |
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25 May 2007 01:54:21 PM |
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Fresh Bushkill |
The US military announced on Friday the deaths of six more soldiers in
Iraq, hours after George Bush, the US president, predicted a bloody
summer lay ahead.
Five of the soldiers died on Thursday while another was killed on
Tuesday by a roadside bomb in Tikrit, north of Baghdad, the military
said.
April was the worst month this year for the US military since the
invasion to topple Saddam in 2003, with 104 soldiers killed.
About 90 have been killed in May so far.
The total death toll for US troops since the invasion now stands at
3,440.
Iraqi fighters also bombed a major bridge in Baghdad on Friday,
partially destroying the span which links two city districts, police
said.
The bridge links Khadra and al-Jamiaa in western Baghdad.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
25 May 2007 02:09:30 PM |
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On 25 May 2007 11:54:21 -0700, beachshark <beachshark1@yahoo.com>
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Iraqi fighters also bombed a major bridge in Baghdad on Friday,
I'm sure the bridge was being used by the americans to supply troops
and ammunition to the front line.
Ooops, guess not.
LOL, next they will be blowing up Iraqi out-houses. That'll teach
'em..
The "Iraqi fighters" are a sad joke to the rest of the world.
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| User: "neoconis_ignoramus" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
25 May 2007 02:51:37 PM |
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On May 25, 12:09 pm, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:54:21 -0700, beachshark <beachsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Iraqi fighters also bombed a major bridge in Baghdad on Friday,
I'm sure the bridge was being used by the americans to supply troops
and ammunition to the front line.
Ooops, guess not.
LOL, next they will be blowing up Iraqi out-houses. That'll teach
'em..
The "Iraqi fighters" are a sad joke to the rest of the world.
Too bad those sad jokes keep finding ways to kill U.S. soldiers. Of
course, it's only a joke to combat-avoiding pansy advocates such as
yourself. To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
25 May 2007 09:44:59 PM |
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On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
On May 25, 12:09 pm, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:54:21 -0700, beachshark <beachsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Iraqi fighters also bombed a major bridge in Baghdad on Friday,
I'm sure the bridge was being used by the americans to supply troops
and ammunition to the front line.
Ooops, guess not.
LOL, next they will be blowing up Iraqi out-houses. That'll teach
'em..
The "Iraqi fighters" are a sad joke to the rest of the world.
Too bad those sad jokes keep finding ways to kill U.S. soldiers.
Doesn't matter. The world just reads the headlines about the latest
stupid bridge bombing, Iraqi children murdered, or whatever.
American troops are fighting the world's common enemy - muslim
islamofascists.
Of
course, it's only a joke to combat-avoiding pansy advocates such as
yourself. To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
26 May 2007 01:37:46 AM |
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"Zeno" <Zeno@home.kom> wrote in message
news:6h7f53hm46t1me5p53qg0t9vgrohi3g3o2@4ax.com...
On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
On May 25, 12:09 pm, Zeno <Z...@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 11:54:21 -0700, beachshark <beachsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Iraqi fighters also bombed a major bridge in Baghdad on Friday,
I'm sure the bridge was being used by the americans to supply troops
and ammunition to the front line.
Ooops, guess not.
LOL, next they will be blowing up Iraqi out-houses. That'll teach
'em..
The "Iraqi fighters" are a sad joke to the rest of the world.
Too bad those sad jokes keep finding ways to kill U.S. soldiers.
Doesn't matter. The world just reads the headlines about the latest
stupid bridge bombing, Iraqi children murdered, or whatever.
American troops are fighting the world's common enemy - muslim
islamofascists.
That's exactly who they are NOT fighting but should be.
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| User: "* US *" |
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26 May 2007 01:19:28 PM |
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It's not about Islam.
The innocent Iraqis are defending themselves.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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26 May 2007 11:29:53 AM |
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On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
What is really odd is that Iran doesn't act like a common blood
thirsty Islamofascist fool.
They seem to want to bypass all the blood and go straight to nuclear
conflagration. The suicide urge is strong. Guess they want to go
quickly - in a flash you might say.
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
26 May 2007 01:32:13 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 11:29:53 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
What is really odd is that Iran doesn't act like a common blood
thirsty Islamofascist fool.
They seem to want to bypass all the blood and go straight to nuclear
conflagration.
Not really. They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent. There some
evidence to support that theory.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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29 May 2007 12:30:45 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 11:29:53 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
What is really odd is that Iran doesn't act like a common blood
thirsty Islamofascist fool.
They seem to want to bypass all the blood and go straight to nuclear
conflagration.
Not really. They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent. There some
evidence to support that theory.
So you fully understand that Iran doesn't just want nuclear power,
they want nuclear bombs? That is, you understand that Ahmadinejad is
lying about his intent?
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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29 May 2007 12:52:36 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:30:45 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 11:29:53 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On 25 May 2007 12:51:37 -0700, neoconis_ignoramus
<bellamacina@verizon.net> wrote:
To the rest of us, it's a sickening spectacle brought to us
by bloodthirsty fools.
What is really odd is that Iran doesn't act like a common blood
thirsty Islamofascist fool.
They seem to want to bypass all the blood and go straight to nuclear
conflagration.
Not really. They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent. There some
evidence to support that theory.
So you fully understand that Iran doesn't just want nuclear power,
they want nuclear bombs?
I think it's very likely.
That is, you understand that Ahmadinejad is
lying about his intent?
He's a politician isn't he?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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28 May 2007 03:09:36 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
A "nuclear deterrent" as in "Iran promises to launch nuclear weapons
on the West if they insult Muhammad by way of cartoon" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_deterrent
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| User: "Zeno" |
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28 May 2007 10:11:52 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
Like the american nuclear attack on Russia during the cold war ?
Ooops, that never occurred.
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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13 Jun 2007 01:58:08 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:11:52 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
Like the american nuclear attack on Russia during the cold war ?
Ooops, that never occurred.
What's that, your 6th would-be snappy comeback?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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13 Jun 2007 03:22:07 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:58:08 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:11:52 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
Like the american nuclear attack on Russia during the cold war ?
Ooops, that never occurred.
What's that, your 6th would-be snappy comeback?
The point (you missed) is that, as with Russia, nuclear weapons does
not make you safe. It only turns up the stakes to complete
annihilation of a nations at conflict. It's called MAD - because it
is indeed insane. A seemingly insignificant thing, like capturing
British soldiers, justly or not, could destroy two nations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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08 Jul 2007 09:56:54 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:22:07 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:58:08 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:11:52 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
Like the american nuclear attack on Russia during the cold war ?
Ooops, that never occurred.
What's that, your 6th would-be snappy comeback?
The point (you missed) is that, as with Russia, nuclear weapons does
not make you safe.
I said nothing about whether it would actually make them safe, only
that they think it would make them safe. However that the Russians
and the Americans did not in fact go to outright war despite many
confrontations does give them some reason to think they would.
It only turns up the stakes to complete
annihilation of a nations at conflict. It's called MAD - because it
is indeed insane. A seemingly insignificant thing, like capturing
British soldiers, justly or not, could destroy two nations.
Well, no it couldn't. Iran's best shot couldn't take out the United
States.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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28 May 2007 10:10:06 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
So you are thinking that invading the American embassy nov 4, 1979 was
also the "only thing" to do to be safe from America?
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| User: "* US *" |
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29 May 2007 05:32:17 AM |
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Iran-Contra was just another of many examples
of Bush crime family treason.
"Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth
about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would
be chased down in the streets and lynched."
-George H. W. "Poppy" Bush, spoken in an interview with
Sarah McClendon, June 1992
http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/61956/index.php
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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13 Jun 2007 01:57:24 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:10:06 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
So you are thinking that invading the American embassy nov 4, 1979 was
also the "only thing" to do to be safe from America?
You were sure searching around for a snappy comeback. None of them
quite work though. No. Invading the American embassy was a different
situation.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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13 Jun 2007 03:22:30 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:57:24 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:10:06 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
So you are thinking that invading the American embassy nov 4, 1979 was
also the "only thing" to do to be safe from America?
You were sure searching around for a snappy comeback. None of them
quite work though. No. Invading the American embassy was a different
situation.
Perhaps they don't work because you don't understand them.
Whether it is the same or different situation is immaterial to the
point.
Your assertion:
"
They just think that the only thing that will make them safe against
American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
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Is false because they (Iran) do not do things to make them safe. They
do things to inflame. Case in point is invading the american embassy.
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| User: "beachshark" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
21 Jun 2007 05:14:04 PM |
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BAGHDAD America's casualty rate in Iraq rose sharply, as the military
reported that 14 troops had been killed in and around Baghdad over
three days of heavy fighting with insurgents.
With tens of thousands of reinforcements deployed in a belt around the
Iraqi capital, President Bush's "surge" operation, now dubbed Phantom
Thunder, began to take its toll.
Five soldiers were killed by a roadside bomb north of Baghdad. Another
was killed by a rocket-propelled grenade that struck his vehicle. Four
more died on Wednesday when a bomb exploded in western Baghdad.
Two US Marines were killed the same day in fighting in Anbar province,
west of the capital. Two more soldiers were killed on Tuesday when
their vehicle was struck by a roadside bomb. The latest deaths brought
to 3,550 the American casualties in Iraq.
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| User: "beachshark" |
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23 Jun 2007 02:48:45 PM |
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Seven U.S. troops were killed in Iraq on
Saturday, bringing the U.S. military death toll so far in June to 77,
the military reported.
Four of the troops were killed when a roadside bomb exploded near a
coalition vehicle northwest of Baghdad on Saturday. An Iraqi
interpreter riding with the soldiers was wounded.
The soldiers were with Multi-National Division-Baghdad, which has been
conducting raids in the area north of the Iraqi capital to destroy
insurgent safe havens, the military added.
Two other U.S. soldiers assigned to Multi-National Division-Baghdad
were killed and three others were wounded when their unit was hit by a
roadside bomb and small arms fire in eastern Baghdad early Saturday,
the military said.
In the past month, the unit has been looking for cells that build
homemade bombs.
Also Saturday, a U.S. airman died of his injuries after a homemade
bomb went off near his vehicle in Tikrit, north of Baghdad.
Simultaneous operations are being carried out as a part of Operation
Phantom Thunder, a "powerful crackdown to defeat extremists in Iraq,"
according to a U.S. military statement. U.S. and Iraqi military forces
are focusing on insurgents in "Baghdad belts," a U.S. military
commander told CNN this week.
Since the war began, 3,554 U.S. military personnel have died,
including seven civilian employees of the Defense Department.
U.S.: Seven with al Qaeda ties killed
The U.S. military also reported Saturday that seven insurgents
suspected of ties to al Qaeda were killed and 10 others captured by
coalition forces in several operations across Iraq Friday and
Saturday.
Three others suspected to have links to Iran were arrested in Baghdad
Saturday, the military said.
U.S. troops thwarted an apparent suicide bombing attempt during a raid
to capture a senior al Qaeda in Iraq leader in Tikrit Saturday, the
military said.
As troops were securing a building, a vehicle with two men inside sped
toward them, ignoring orders to stop. Troops fired on the vehicle,
making it crash into a fence. They found the two men dead inside and a
bomb in the back seat, the military said.
Five men were killed after they fired on coalition forces who were
searching for al Qaeda militants in four buildings east of Falluja on
Saturday, the military said. Forces destroyed ammunition, hand
grenades and mortar rounds found inside one building.
A man believed to be a member of a Baghdad car bomb network, who is
also suspected of providing foreign fighters and weapons to militants,
was captured south of Baghdad Saturday, the military said.
A Kurdish extremist suspected of helping with al Qaeda attacks in
northern Iraq was captured in a raid in Mosul on Friday, the military
said. He is also suspected of helping move foreign fighters and
conducting financial and media operations for al Qaeda, the military
said. Four other suspected terrorists were also captured nearby, the
military said.
Three suspected terrorists with ties to Iran were detained during a
raid in Baghdad's Sadr City district Saturday morning. Iranian
surrogates are suspected of smuggling technically advanced and
powerful roadside bombs into Iraq, the military said.
The U.S. military announced Saturday that Iraqi Army soldiers killed
11 suspected al Qaeda gunmen and a person suspected of planting bombs
on Wednesday. This came after an Iraqi Army checkpoint near Khalis was
attacked.
The U.S. military reported on Friday that U.S. and Iraqi troops killed
at least 68 al Qaeda militants in Iraq's Diyala province between
Tuesday and Friday, including 17 who were killed by U.S. attack
helicopters armed with missiles. The military said the attack was part
of Operation Arrowhead Ripper, an anti-insurgent offensive being
carried out in and around Baquba, Diyala's provincial capital. It is
part of Operation Phantom Thunder.
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
08 Jul 2007 09:47:28 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:22:30 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:57:24 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:10:06 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
So you are thinking that invading the American embassy nov 4, 1979 was
also the "only thing" to do to be safe from America?
You were sure searching around for a snappy comeback. None of them
quite work though. No. Invading the American embassy was a different
situation.
Perhaps they don't work because you don't understand them.
Whether it is the same or different situation is immaterial to the
point.
Your assertion:
"
They just think that the only thing that will make them safe against
American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
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Is false because they (Iran) do not do things to make them safe. They
do things to inflame. Case in point is invading the american embassy.
Really. Because they did one thing that made the Americans angry,
they only do things to inflame?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
28 May 2007 04:39:32 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
You are thinking that with all the inflammatory remarks Ahmadinejad
makes towards America, and the West in general, that they need some
sort of weapon to keep them safe?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
26 May 2007 03:24:36 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
"Only thing"?
That's the most factually incorrect statement I've heard in awhile.
Congratulations...
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
30 May 2007 01:36:32 AM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:24:36 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
"Only thing"?
That's the most factually incorrect statement I've heard in awhile.
Really. And what's incorrect about it?
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| User: "* US *" |
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28 May 2007 10:52:44 AM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:24:36 -0500, Zero <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
... the most factually incorrect statement I've heard ...
Worse than "WMD in Iraq"?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
28 May 2007 03:03:52 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:52:44 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:24:36 -0500, Zero <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
... the most factually incorrect statement I've heard ...
Worse than "WMD in Iraq"?
You are thinking that is Iran's excuse?
Many of the other nations of the world live under mutually assured
destruction (MAD) and so can they? They want a "nuclear deterrent" so
that they can live under MAD just like everyone else?
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| User: "* US *" |
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28 May 2007 07:41:42 PM |
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 15:03:52 -0500, Zero <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
You are thinking ...
Why aren't you?
You're the one who needs an excuse
for your support of terrorism, when
you support Bush/Cheney.
On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:24:36 -0500, Zero <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
... the most factually incorrect statement I've heard ...
Worse than "WMD in Iraq"?
How about "flowers and candy"?
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
29 May 2007 12:30:41 PM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
How about Iran sending in special IED explosives to Iraq that can
destroy an armored jeep? Does that keep Iran safe from America attack
as well?
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| User: "David Johnston" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
29 May 2007 12:51:47 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:30:41 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
How about Iran sending in special IED explosives to Iraq that can
destroy an armored jeep? Does that keep Iran safe from America attack
as well?
Actually...possibly. As long as the Americans have more trouble than
they can handle in the nations they've already conquered they are they
are less likely to take on another conquest.
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| User: "Zeno" |
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| Title: Re: Fresh Bushkill |
29 May 2007 01:45:03 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:51:47 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 12:30:41 -0500, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> wrote:
On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:32:13 GMT, David Johnston <david@block.net>
wrote:
They just think that the only thing that will make them
safe against American attack is a nuclear deterrent.
How about Iran sending in special IED explosives to Iraq that can
destroy an armored jeep? Does that keep Iran safe from America attack
as well?
Actually...possibly. As long as the Americans have more trouble than
they can handle in the nations they've already conquered they are they
are less likely to take on another conquest.
Then it is morally justified to attack Iran for helping to kill
American soldiers?
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