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"Black Elk" |
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29 Nov 2005 08:08:20 PM |
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FreudianSlippage: 'Hatch refers to Iraq as Vietnam' |
Hatch refers to Iraq as Vietnam
Salt Lake Tribune
WASHINGTON - Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, flubbed Monday and referred to Iraq
as Vietnam while commenting on Fox News against an immediate troop
withdrawal.
"The Democratic Party seems to be taken over by the Michael Moore
contingent in their attitude toward Vietnam, and they continually call for a
withdrawal of troops at a time when we haven't finished the job," Hatch said
on the network's morning show. Hatch's spokesman acknowledged the error,
which was first reported on the American Prospect Web log.
Spokesman Peter Carr said the Utah senator had been reading a magazine
article that referred to analogies between the Iraq and Vietnam wars and
misstated what he meant to say.
A transcript of the interview provided by Congressional Quarterly
replaced "Vietnam" with "Iraq," without any mention of a correction. A CQ
subsidiary later acknowledged making a mistake in the transcription and the
actual version of the comments was later posted.
http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3260927
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country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag
the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
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| User: "Werner Hetzner" |
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| Title: Re: FreudianSlippage: 'Hatch refers to Iraq as Vietnam' |
30 Nov 2005 08:45:01 AM |
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Black Elk wrote:
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First published: Wednesday, November 30, 2005
Reality doesn't count. Perception is everything. Our best lawyers depend
on this phenomenon.
They make facts disappear when they want as easily as they can make the
slightest doubts appear reasonable to a jury. Indeed, they even
"cherry-pick" juries and probably judges whenever the opportunities
arise. Lawyers are salesmen with a law degree.
Salesmen can make swampland seem like a good deal to the less
sophisticated. More than most folks, lawyers understand how much depends
on what the meaning of the word is is. A lot of politicians are lawyers.
The reality is that Congress voted to attack Iraq. Right now many of
them want to create new perceptions. They want us to believe they did
not know what they were doing. They are not responsible for their
actions. They want us to believe they were, well ... fooled; they were
"out-lawyered" by Bush -- the very person they once told us was too dumb
to be president. Which is perception and what is real?
Some of our esteemed legislators get Rep. John Murtha (who holds a safe
seat) to call for a troop withdrawal because it offers political gain
with little risk. But when push comes to shove, they vote no withdrawal.
Is that a perception of courage and leadership or the reality of
politics as usual?
Raise your hand if you trust in a politician. In reality, those rascals
make the rules we all have to follow. The perception is they care and
know what they are doing. How real is that?
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| User: "Non-demopublican Voter" |
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| Title: Re: FreudianSlippage: 'Hatch refers to Iraq as Vietnam' |
29 Nov 2005 08:52:02 PM |
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On 29 Nov 2005, Black Elk wrote:
Hatch refers to Iraq as Vietnam
Salt Lake Tribune
WASHINGTON - Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, flubbed Monday and referred to
Iraq as Vietnam while commenting on Fox News against an immediate troop
withdrawal.
"The Democratic Party seems to be taken over by the Michael Moore
contingent in their attitude toward Vietnam, and they continually call
for a withdrawal of troops at a time when we haven't finished the job,"
Hatch said on the network's morning show. Hatch's spokesman acknowledged
the error, which was first reported on the American Prospect Web log.
Spokesman Peter Carr said the Utah senator had been reading a
magazine
article that referred to analogies between the Iraq and Vietnam wars and
misstated what he meant to say.
"The analogy", Carr went on to say, "was so apt that
Senator Booby Hatch will be using the word
Vietnam in place of the word Iraq from now on. Thank You."
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