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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 26 Mar 2006 08:29:26 AM
Object: From the front line to the unemployment line
From The Chicago Sun-Times, 3/26/06:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-vetjobside26.html
From the front line to the unemployment line
BY CHERYL L. REED Staff Reporter Advertisement
Mark Wirth Jr., a 21-year-old from Orland Park, figures the skills he
learned as a combat Marine are too valuable to waste waiting tables.
But back in civilian life now after serving two tours in Iraq, Wirth
isn't getting any offers for the jobs he wants, the jobs he thought
the military had trained him to do -- in law enforcement or security
consulting.
He says the only job he has been offered, through the state's job
bank, is as a truck driver.
"I know how to drive a Humvee," said Wirth, who's aiming for a job
that pays at least $13 an hour.
"But I don't know how to drive an 18-wheeler."
'It's kind of upsetting'
He's like thousands of other U.S. military veterans who, having served
in the Iraq war, expected to come home and find a job that employed
skills he learned in the military.
Instead, he faced the worst job environment for young vets since the
early 1980s.
After four years in the Marine Corps, Wirth got out Jan. 29.
He signed up for unemployment benefits on Valentine's Day.
He has been looking for a job in law enforcement or security
consulting since then.
"It's kind of upsetting," he said of hearing employers tell him
they're looking for people who've been to college, who have at least
an associate's degree.
"You'd think these police departments would value someone who has
spent four years defending the country more than someone who spent two
years sitting in a classroom. But that's not the case."
'Nobody steps up to the plate'
Wirth wanted to be a Marine ever since he was 12.
Through the Marine Corps' delayed-entry program, he signed up at 16
and was 17 when he went off to boot camp.
Wirth spent 14 months overseas with the Marines.
He thought that kind of real-life experience -- including his role
with a combined arms assault team -- would matter more when he came
home.
"I put my life on the line," Wirth said.
In earlier times, he figures, someone with four years in the Marines
"could instantaneously become a police officer when he got out. That's
not the case anymore."
He can see why police departments value a college degree.
But he figures patriotism should count for something, too.
"Everyone says 'awesome job' and pats you on the back, but nobody
steps up to the plate and offers you a job."
He's registered with the state's job bank, called Illinois Skills
Match, which gives preference to veterans.
He has met with an unemployment representative there who specializes
in helping vets.
And he has a backup plan in mind -- for a job that pays just $8.50 an
hour, with no benefits.
_____________________________________________________________
No sounds of outrage from yellow-ribbon-car-sticker-flag-pin-wearin'
"patriots"
Harry
.

User: "ZenIsWhen"

Title: Re: From the front line to the unemployment line 26 Mar 2006 09:54:56 AM
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ia9d229s8qtfliv0l09767gp79bjem3u2r@4ax.com...


From The Chicago Sun-Times, 3/26/06:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-vetjobside26.html

From the front line to the unemployment line

BY CHERYL L. REED Staff Reporter Advertisement


Mark Wirth Jr., a 21-year-old from Orland Park, figures the skills he
learned as a combat Marine are too valuable to waste waiting tables.

But back in civilian life now after serving two tours in Iraq, Wirth
isn't getting any offers for the jobs he wants, the jobs he thought
the military had trained him to do -- in law enforcement or security
consulting.

He says the only job he has been offered, through the state's job
bank, is as a truck driver.

"I know how to drive a Humvee," said Wirth, who's aiming for a job
that pays at least $13 an hour.

"But I don't know how to drive an 18-wheeler."


'It's kind of upsetting'

He's like thousands of other U.S. military veterans who, having served
in the Iraq war, expected to come home and find a job that employed
skills he learned in the military.

Instead, he faced the worst job environment for young vets since the
early 1980s.

After four years in the Marine Corps, Wirth got out Jan. 29.

He signed up for unemployment benefits on Valentine's Day.

He has been looking for a job in law enforcement or security
consulting since then.

"It's kind of upsetting," he said of hearing employers tell him
they're looking for people who've been to college, who have at least
an associate's degree.

They're looking for intelligence.
All the military ever wanted is bodies (fodder) taught to kill.


"You'd think these police departments would value someone who has
spent four years defending the country more than someone who spent two
years sitting in a classroom. But that's not the case."

Take a look at many of the people you met while in the military. Some (if
not many) of them would not pass either a basic intelligence test or a
psychiatric test.
Do you REALLY expect favoritism for pre-military job seekers?



'Nobody steps up to the plate'

Wirth wanted to be a Marine ever since he was 12.

Through the Marine Corps' delayed-entry program, he signed up at 16
and was 17 when he went off to boot camp.

Wirth spent 14 months overseas with the Marines.

He thought that kind of real-life experience -- including his role
with a combined arms assault team -- would matter more when he came
home.

*****! I'm 60, and have more "real life" experience that you'll see for a
long time. That doesn't allow me the right to expect anything more than gray
hairs.


"I put my life on the line," Wirth said.

In earlier times, he figures, someone with four years in the Marines
"could instantaneously become a police officer when he got out. That's
not the case anymore."

Again, take a look at some of the psychologically questionable, uneducated,
people you met in the service. Just off the top of my head, I can think of
one (who went on to become an MP) who I wouldn't trust as being able to
sweep floors.


He can see why police departments value a college degree.

But he figures patriotism should count for something, too.

Hitler was a patriot. That "excuse" doesn't buy it.
Perhaps companies are looking for someone SMART enough to know that Bush's
"war" was outrageously insane, illegal, and corrupt.


"Everyone says 'awesome job' and pats you on the back, but nobody
steps up to the plate and offers you a job."

He's registered with the state's job bank, called Illinois Skills
Match, which gives preference to veterans.

He has met with an unemployment representative there who specializes
in helping vets.

And he has a backup plan in mind -- for a job that pays just $8.50 an
hour, with no benefits.

_____________________________________________________________

No sounds of outrage from yellow-ribbon-car-sticker-flag-pin-wearin'
"patriots"

Harry

He should try for a job with Halliburton - after all, it's paying well for
NON MILITARY types like Cheny! It should JUMP at the chance to hire people
who sacrificed their lives for Halliburton profits!
.
User: "Marinus van der Lubbe"

Title: Re: From the front line to the unemployment line 26 Mar 2006 02:48:52 PM
ZenIsWhen wrote:

"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ia9d229s8qtfliv0l09767gp79bjem3u2r@4ax.com...


From The Chicago Sun-Times, 3/26/06:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-vetjobside26.html

Mark Wirth Jr., a 21-year-old from Orland Park, figures the skills he
learned as a combat Marine are too valuable to waste waiting tables.

That's right, veterans are so finicky.
Harry, this was not the best story to quote. So many people have been in the
military in this country and we know this is not true. The Chicago
Sun-Times is running this fiction that is tantamount to their
Cadillac-driving welfare queens stories. Or homeless people, they are not
so homeless, a starting salary for a street person, oh, about $50,000 per
annum excluding good health and paid clubhouse membership benefits, yeah,
it's true, you read it in the Sun-Times.

Again, take a look at some of the psychologically questionable,
uneducated,
people you met in the service. Just off the top of my head, I can think
of one (who went on to become an MP) who I wouldn't trust as being able to
sweep floors.

I don't know about the Army, are MP's some sort of permenant job or is it
something you do on your duty day for a few hours? Well, anyway, believe it
or not, those in the military are slightly smarter and healthier than the
general public. Their standards on who they enlist are not high but they
are not cannon fodder, either.
.



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