Politics > Politics-USA > Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leader and an OK President
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27 Dec 2006 06:29:48 PM |
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Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leader and an OK President |
I was just going to let Ford's death go by unremarked by me, no doubt to
the relief of the American public, but the absolute drivel on the teevee
n00z has once again driven me to remark:
I am willing to accord to Ford a recognition that he was an adequate
President, and managed to keep things on an even keel after the debacle of
the Nixon Administration, although I believe Ford's pardon of Nixon was a
horrifying error and permanently made it impossible for there to be any
other answer to the question "Are Presidents above the law in the United
States?" but "Yes."
And I am willing to grant, on the strength of such commendation by one of
his most knowledgably harsh critics (see next paragraph) that he was a
relatively honest and hard-working Congressman in the sixteen years he was
such before becoming House Minority Leader in 1968.
But "Becoming Minority Leader changed Jerry Ford greatly. Watching him
was like watching a wasp being hatched. During his sixteen years in the
House before becoming Minority Leader, he was known as a plodder by his
peers, but he was known hardly at all by the public. A hard and almost
hidden worker on the House Appropriations Committee, he was regarded as a
Congressman's Congressman and was so cited by the American Political
Science Association . . . .
"Jerry acquired a taste for money. Where he had been hesitant and shy
two years before [in 1968], he was now arrogant and brusquely sure that
money was the name of the game. He often repeated this phrase to me. He
was a good example of power corrupting what had been, in my estimation, of
one of the few honest and sincere men in Washington . . . .
"[Jerry] thought for a moment, then said: 'I really don't have the time
to involved myself in this sort of problem, anyway. I'm too busy.'
"I said: 'He's willing to give . . . thirty thousand to the National
Committee.'
"Without changing his tone or expression, Ford said: 'He is? Tell him he
can see me whenever he wants. I'll try to help.'
" 'Thanks.' I turned and headed for the door. Before I got there, I was
hit by that wave of nausea I had often carried out of a Democrat's office.
I stopped and looked back at Ford, and I guess my feelings showed. I
said: 'Jerry, this is a hell of a note.'
" 'Don't let it bother you, Bob,' he said. 'Money is the name of the
game. Without it, you're dead.' " . . . .
< Robert Winter-Berger, _The Washington Pay-Off_ (Lyle Stuart, 1972)
[_The_ classic study of DC corruption, long suppressed, perhaps not least
because Chapter 2, pp. 56-69, points unmistakeably in the direction of
JFK's killers, with one of the most stunning political scenes ever
witnessed at first hand and recorded in the US.]
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Conservatism = plutocracy + theocracy + hypocrisy
Liberalism = plutocracy + psychosociocracy + hypocrisy
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| User: "duh" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leaderand an OK President |
28 Dec 2006 07:28:24 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:29:48 -0500
mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com> wrote:
I was just going to let Ford's death go by unremarked by me, no doubt
to the relief of the American public, but the absolute drivel on the
teevee n00z has once again driven me to remark:
If you often watch American TV news without putting your foot through
the screen, your opinion is not worth the effort it took to write it
out.
I am willing to accord to Ford a recognition that he was an adequate
President, and managed to keep things on an even keel after the
debacle of the Nixon Administration,
Yup. That is just what the talking heads on TV all tell us. Too bad
the TV became boring and you came here to repeat the interesting
factoids you watched yesterday.
although I believe Ford's pardon
of Nixon was a horrifying error
When his time was up, Nixon went gracefully. He resigned. This is
what great leaders do when the tide turns against them. It is the way
things work in representative governments. Nixon acted like a
prime minister. But America does not have a separate head
of state.
In America the president is the prime minister and the king all at the
same time. This makes the government slow to react to changing
circumstances. It leads to confusion. By asking for his head, his
critics make him out to be king.
The American system of government has been copied extensively
throughout the world. Everywhere it has been tried, it decays into
military dictatorship.
Nixon won reelection in what was almost a landslide. Then the
Washingtonians overruled the voters and threw him out.
and permanently made it impossible
for there to be any other answer to the question "Are Presidents
above the law in the United States?" but "Yes."
For what Nixon did, removal from office was adequate punishment.
He was harsh with his political opponents, but they were not fair
to him either.
And I am willing to grant, on the strength of such commendation by
one of his most knowledgably harsh critics (see next paragraph) that
he was a relatively honest and hard-working Congressman in the
sixteen years he was such before becoming House Minority Leader in
1968.
Perhaps, honest and hard working on behalf of his constituent: the US
Navy.
But "Becoming Minority Leader changed Jerry Ford greatly. Watching
him was like watching a wasp being hatched. During his sixteen years
in the House before becoming Minority Leader, he was known as a
plodder by his peers, but he was known hardly at all by the public.
A hard and almost hidden worker on the House Appropriations
Committee, he was regarded as a Congressman's Congressman and was so
cited by the American Political Science Association . . . .
"Jerry acquired a taste for money. Where he had been hesitant and shy
two years before [in 1968], he was now arrogant and brusquely sure
that money was the name of the game.
As congressman from Green Bay, Jerry's fund raising could be done in
private. When he became minority leader, he exposed himself in
public.
He often repeated this phrase
to me. He was a good example of power corrupting what had been, in
my estimation, of one of the few honest and sincere men in
Washington . . . .
< Robert Winter-Berger, _The Washington Pay-Off_ (Lyle Stuart, 1972)
[_The_ classic study of DC corruption, long suppressed, perhaps not
least because Chapter 2, pp. 56-69, points unmistakeably in the
direction of JFK's killers, with one of the most stunning political
scenes ever witnessed at first hand and recorded in the US.]
You will have to do better than that if you expect me to read this book.
1972 was the year Nixon won re-election. The New York based publishing
industry flooded the country with anti-Nixon hate literature.
But Nixon stopped a war that had been raging for a decade and cost
85,000 American lives. The more the back easters slimed him, the
more the voters loved him.
As to the coy reference to JFK, there is nothing to hints about
Nixon's involvement. He may have been in Dallas. Everyone who
was anyone was either in Dallas or had a ringer there.
In 1963 Nixon's influence was at its nadir. He narrowly lost the
Presidency to Kennedy in 1960 (and exited gracefully). He then lost the
race for governor of California in 1962. Most of us thought we would
never hear from him again. The people who pulled the JFK thing off had
influence in Texas and Washington. That was not Richard Nixon. Even
while he was president, he had so little influence that he
often had to escape Washington to his "Western White House" in San
Clemente.
There is much planted evidence pointing to half a dozen foreign nations.
Other planted evidence points to various political fringe groups and
Republicans. But a careful look at the Zapruder film even in the
abridged version shown in the movie JFK shows that the other occupants
of the president's limousine were all part of the conspiracy. The
drivers reached a certain point and jammed on the brakes. The
president was shot in the throat. Texas Governor John Conally turned
around to look, and they wounded him. He wasn't supposed to look.
Conally's tape recorded words were "Good Lord, they are going to shoot
us all.¨
His wife's taped reply: "Hush up, you will be all right."
Kennedy tried to duck, His wife Jackie held him up poised like a statue
for the fatal shot.
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| User: "Defendario" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leaderand an OK President |
27 Dec 2006 08:10:18 PM |
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mimus wrote:
I was just going to let Ford's death go by unremarked by me, no doubt to
the relief of the American public, but the absolute drivel on the teevee
n00z has once again driven me to remark:
I am willing to accord to Ford a recognition that he was an adequate
President, and managed to keep things on an even keel after the debacle of
the Nixon Administration, although I believe Ford's pardon of Nixon was a
horrifying error and permanently made it impossible for there to be any
other answer to the question "Are Presidents above the law in the United
States?" but "Yes."
Jerry was part of the fix. He did his job, that's all.
And I am willing to grant, on the strength of such commendation by one of
his most knowledgably harsh critics (see next paragraph) that he was a
relatively honest and hard-working Congressman in the sixteen years he was
such before becoming House Minority Leader in 1968.
But "Becoming Minority Leader changed Jerry Ford greatly. Watching him
was like watching a wasp being hatched. During his sixteen years in the
House before becoming Minority Leader, he was known as a plodder by his
peers, but he was known hardly at all by the public. A hard and almost
hidden worker on the House Appropriations Committee, he was regarded as a
Congressman's Congressman and was so cited by the American Political
Science Association . . . .
"Jerry acquired a taste for money. Where he had been hesitant and shy
two years before [in 1968], he was now arrogant and brusquely sure that
money was the name of the game. He often repeated this phrase to me. He
was a good example of power corrupting what had been, in my estimation, of
one of the few honest and sincere men in Washington . . . .
"[Jerry] thought for a moment, then said: 'I really don't have the time
to involved myself in this sort of problem, anyway. I'm too busy.'
"I said: 'He's willing to give . . . thirty thousand to the National
Committee.'
"Without changing his tone or expression, Ford said: 'He is? Tell him he
can see me whenever he wants. I'll try to help.'
" 'Thanks.' I turned and headed for the door. Before I got there, I was
hit by that wave of nausea I had often carried out of a Democrat's office.
I stopped and looked back at Ford, and I guess my feelings showed. I
said: 'Jerry, this is a hell of a note.'
" 'Don't let it bother you, Bob,' he said. 'Money is the name of the
game. Without it, you're dead.' " . . . .
< Robert Winter-Berger, _The Washington Pay-Off_ (Lyle Stuart, 1972)
[_The_ classic study of DC corruption, long suppressed, perhaps not least
because Chapter 2, pp. 56-69, points unmistakeably in the direction of
JFK's killers, with one of the most stunning political scenes ever
witnessed at first hand and recorded in the US.]
Those guys were boi-scouts by today's standards.
I pine for the days of the relative honesty and simplicity of the '70s
***** Nixon was a better President than Bushler, the worst ever.
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| User: "Hickabob McCrane" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leader and an OK President |
27 Dec 2006 08:15:38 PM |
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An OK president?....how about useless president? A subsitute gym teacher
could have done just a good a job.
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| User: "Defendario" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leaderand an OK President |
27 Dec 2006 09:36:14 PM |
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Hickabob McCrane wrote:
An OK president?....how about useless president? A subsitute gym teacher
could have done just a good a job.
Jacksonian Democracy? Maybe it ought to be given a try. A random name
from the phone directory who met the Constitutional qualifications might
be a better President than Bushler.
I'd even bet on it.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leaderand an OK President |
28 Dec 2006 07:31:59 PM |
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Hickabob McCrane wrote:
An OK president?....how about useless president? A subsitute gym teacher
could have done just a good a job.
He came at a time when we needed a useless president.
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| User: "mimus" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leader and an OK President |
28 Dec 2006 07:57:48 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:31:59 +0000, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Hickabob McCrane wrote:
An OK president?....how about useless president? A subsitute gym
teacher could have done just a good a job.
He came at a time when we needed a useless president.
Better President Log than President Stork . . . .
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If you ain't a campaign donor, you ain't *****.
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| User: "mimus" |
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| Title: Re: Gerald Ford: A Good Congressman, a Bad House Minority Leader and an OK President |
27 Dec 2006 09:40:50 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:15:38 -0500, Hickabob McCrane wrote:
An OK president?....how about useless president? A subsitute gym teacher
could have done just a good a job.
Just what we needed at the time . . . a little peace and quiet . . .
_please_ . . . .
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Breaking into the Democratic Committee, Christ.
That's no blot on a man's record.
< Nixon
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