"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You ever think that Mother Nature may be reacting to over population.
The earth has only a finite amount of resources, and the unneeded
population
explosion is taxing the planet beyond its capacity to support life.

That's just Dana's left-wing drivel.

"Matt" <matttelles@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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Captain Compassion wrote:

On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 15:24:18 -0600, "Irving Layton"
<irving@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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The assumption here is that before man that the climate was constant.

When Mr. Vincent was quoted in the artilce as saying "... remarkable
features of the Canadian North that have been in place for many thousa=

of

years," in your perverted logic how did you manage to twist that into =

view that "the assumption here is that before man that the climate was
constant."

A mere 15,000 years ago these "... remarkable features of the Canadian
North" were under a 1/2 mile of ice. A mere 125,000 years ago these
now barren arctic islands were covered with trees.

All very reasonable statements. However, before 125,000 years, when
were
they last buried in ice? The question is not about whether or not an
ice age will
come. That's a more-or-less-given based on past history. The question
is how
quickly these cycles are occuring.

If Captain Compassion were any slower he'd be in reverse.

A major UK paper states"

"World faces hottest year ever, as El Ni=F1o combines with global
warming."
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2116873.ece

Two things wrong with this.

1. We are only in the first day of the year. Tell me how the
prediction of all those warming driven hurricanes for last year worked
out.

Fairly well, actually.

You are wrong,

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:30:38 -0500, "Larry Hewitt"
<larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:

"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:24:00 -0500, PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote:

Captain Compassion wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:54:41 GMT, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

From The Associated Press, 12/29/06:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/12/29/america/NA_GEN_Canada_Arctic_Ice_Break.php

Ancient ice shelf snaps and breaks free from the Canadian Arctic

The Associated Press

TORONTO:

A giant ice shelf has snapped free from an island south of the North
Pole, scientists said Thursday, citing climate change as a "major"
reason for the event.

The Ayles Ice Shelf - 66 square kilometers (41 square miles) of it -
broke clear 16 months ago from the coast of Ellesmere Island, about
800 kilometers (500 miles) south of the North Pole in the Canadian
Arctic.

Scientists discovered the event by using satellite imagery.

Within one hour of breaking free, the shelf had formed as a new ice
island, leaving a trail of icy boulders floating in its wake.

Warwick Vincent of Laval University, who studies Arctic conditions,
traveled to the newly formed ice island and was amazed at the sight.

"This is a dramatic and disturbing event. It shows that we are losing
remarkable features of the Canadian North that have been in place for
many thousands of years," Vincent said.

"We are crossing climate thresholds, and these may signal the onset
of
accelerated change ahead."

The assumption here is that before man that the climate was constant.

Stuff for you to consider:

1) Fluctuations in the past weren't as severe as what we are seeing
today.

See Younger Dryas.

Again, it was precipitated by a catastrophic event of global proportions,
and the recovery was equally rapid as the imbalance righted itself.

2) Are we ready to cause another mass extinction, this time including
man-kind, that may reduce the worlds human population from 3-4b to under
1b?

I suspect that humans will have as much success stopping mass
extinctions as the Dinosaur and the Mammalian megafauna.

Especially if we continue to cause rapid climate changes.

Following your logic, mass extinctions have occurred before, so no big
deal. Right?

I suspect that this will happen in the next 1,000,000 years.

Potentially a lot sooner, if global warming theorists are correct.

DHS ( I forget which specific agency now) did a study n the effects of a
nuclear winter on the US. It basically consluded that our society would
disappear. Masive population igration sout woudl start horrific border
wars.

Fodd produciotn would plummet, leasing to epidemics nd hunger.
Increased demand for fuel oil would starve industry and transportation,
further worsening hunger and disease,

Tens of millions would die in a few years, and the damage to out
infrastructure would be peremanent.

Been there done that.

"If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees
colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees
colder by the year 2000.This is about twice what it would take to put
us in an ice age." --Kenneth E. F. Watt on air pollution and global
cooling, Earth Day 1970

"In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct.
Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the
stench of dead fish." -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day 1970

"History offers no example of a parallel threat on a global national
or even local scale. To "wait and see" invites disaster. Only the
long-term threats of global warming, oxygen loss, exhaustion of other
basic resources in the oceans and continents as well as the eventual
possibility of an earth-asteroid collision demand worldwide action on
a similar scale... A worldwide strategic mobilization...similar to the
effort required by World War 2 must be developed in the weeks ahead."
- 1998, UN Working Group on Informatics (Y2K)

3) CO2 levels have never in the past been this high.

So you say.
http://i18.tinypic.com/4cxhgr8.gif

"Global climate change is real: And it has been for over 4 billion
years." -- Captain compassion

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Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS

"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.


"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

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