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"Harry Hope" |
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24 Dec 2006 07:14:51 PM |
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Global warming: Inhabited island disappears |
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
From The Independent, 12/24/06:
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2099971.ece
Disappearing world: Global warming claims tropical island
For the first time, an inhabited island has disappeared beneath rising
seas.
Environment Editor Geoffrey Lean reports
Rising seas, caused by global warming, have for the first time washed
an inhabited island off the face of the Earth.
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
As the seas continue to swell, they will swallow whole island nations,
from the Maldives to the Marshall Islands, inundate vast areas of
countries from Bangladesh to Egypt, and submerge parts of scores of
coastal cities.
Eight years ago, as exclusively reported in The Independent on Sunday,
the first uninhabited islands - in the Pacific atoll nation of
Kiribati - vanished beneath the waves.
The people of low-lying islands in Vanuatu, also in the Pacific, have
been evacuated as a precaution, but the land still juts above the sea.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
It has been officially recorded in a six-year study of the Sunderbans
by researchers at Calcutta's Jadavpur University.
So remote is the island that the researchers first learned of its
submergence, and that of an uninhabited neighbouring island,
Suparibhanga, when they saw they had vanished from satellite pictures.
Two-thirds of nearby populated island Ghoramara has also been
permanently inundated.
Dr Sugata Hazra, director of the university's School of Oceanographic
Studies, says "it is only a matter of some years" before it is
swallowed up too.
Dr Hazra says there are now a dozen "vanishing islands" in India's
part of the delta.
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"We do not inherit the Earth from our parents, we borrow it from our
children."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
Harry
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming: Inhabited island disappears |
24 Dec 2006 08:38:21 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5g9uo2tmmcedq1dg0u8udfdbdmcsiuouka@4ax.com...
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
Seems Harry left something very important out.
Well Harry, any response to this little factoid.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1061030/asp/frontpage/story_6933888.asp
Officials of the Bengal government, however, say the study cannot directly
be linked to climate change. Atanu Raha, director of Sundarban Biosphere
Reserve, said the islands were getting eroded by oceanic currents, not by
rising sea levels.
"Erosion and accretion are natural phenomena. Across the world islands
submerge and new ones emerge. This is natural," Raha said.
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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25 Dec 2006 02:56:35 PM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5g9uo2tmmcedq1dg0u8udfdbdmcsiuouka@4ax.com...
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
Seems Harry left something very important out.
Well Harry, any response to this little factoid.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1061030/asp/frontpage/story_6933888.asp
Officials of the Bengal government, however, say the study cannot directly
be linked to climate change. Atanu Raha, director of Sundarban Biosphere
Reserve, said the islands were getting eroded by oceanic currents, not by
rising sea levels.
"Erosion and accretion are natural phenomena. Across the world islands
submerge and new ones emerge. This is natural," Raha said.
Of course you don't belief in global warming, belief has nothing to do with
it. You and yours in the trailer parks don't think it happens but just
about every scientist in the world does. There aren't a lot of papers to
show no global warming, there are a huge number of papers that do. So enjoy
christmas and go to sleep and dream of a life were your actually important.
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming: Inhabited island disappears |
25 Dec 2006 04:18:55 PM |
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"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjv@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7WWjh.6866$X72.2264@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5g9uo2tmmcedq1dg0u8udfdbdmcsiuouka@4ax.com...
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
Seems Harry left something very important out.
Well Harry, any response to this little factoid.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1061030/asp/frontpage/story_6933888.asp
Officials of the Bengal government, however, say the study cannot
directly
be linked to climate change. Atanu Raha, director of Sundarban Biosphere
Reserve, said the islands were getting eroded by oceanic currents, not
by
rising sea levels.
"Erosion and accretion are natural phenomena. Across the world islands
submerge and new ones emerge. This is natural," Raha said.
Of course you don't belief in global warming, belief has nothing to do
with
it.
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
But it is funny when you guys on the left try to say an Island disappeared
because of Global Warming, when in fact it was caused by natural erosion,
again another natural process. Has nothing to do with rising ocean levels
(Not Yet).
Like the last global warming sea levels will rise, but we are not there yet.
And man is now smart enough to either lessen the damage (the Dutch are quite
good at holding the sea back), or move out of the way.
So while you rabid leftists cry about the sky is falling, we will continue
to laugh at your lack of education.
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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25 Dec 2006 06:08:59 PM |
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Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle? What are the restoring forces? What
is the average temperature?
--
Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Dana" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming: Inhabited island disappears |
25 Dec 2006 07:25:17 PM |
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"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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25 Dec 2006 09:10:32 PM |
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Dana wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
So in other words you are spewing baseless blather.
--
Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Dana" |
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25 Dec 2006 10:01:05 PM |
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"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:UMGdnd4UR541Dw3YnZ2dnUVZ_h7inZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
So in other words you are spewing baseless blather.
Nope, not at all.
It is the scientists that are saying the above.
The worlds climate is mighty complicated, and it does go through cycles.
I am not here to teach you all the details.
--
Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: Global warming: Inhabited island disappears |
26 Dec 2006 11:11:43 AM |
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"Dana" <raff242@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:UMGdnd4UR541Dw3YnZ2dnUVZ_h7inZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
So in other words you are spewing baseless blather.
Nope, not at all.
It is the scientists that are saying the above.
The worlds climate is mighty complicated, and it does go through cycles.
I am not here to teach you all the details.
Translation: The rightard is full of ***** as usual.
---
Yes, Bush _IS_ a Christian. It's time you got over it.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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25 Dec 2006 09:52:35 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:10:32 -0500, Hatto von Aquitanien
<abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote:
Dana wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
So in other words you are spewing baseless blather.
The earth has been in an ice age for the last 2 million or so years
with major ice advances and retreats every 100,000 years. The causes
of these cycles seem to be astronomic. We currently are around 12,000
to 18,000 years out from the last maximum ice advance with the
glaciers still retreating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Dana" |
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25 Dec 2006 10:02:39 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:10:32 -0500, Hatto von Aquitanien
<abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote:
Dana wrote:
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:4YednZnn1cuG9Q3YnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Dana wrote:
That is true. Global warming is a natural cycle, everyone knows
that.
What is the frequency of that cycle?
Many years
What are the restoring forces?
Many
What
is the average temperature?
Varies
So in other words you are spewing baseless blather.
The earth has been in an ice age for the last 2 million or so years
with major ice advances and retreats every 100,000 years. The causes
of these cycles seem to be astronomic. We currently are around 12,000
to 18,000 years out from the last maximum ice advance with the
glaciers still retreating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial
And he wants me to write an essay on this in the news groups.
Hell he can read for himself.
--
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Bama Brian" |
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27 Dec 2006 09:16:46 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
From The Independent, 12/24/06:
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2099971.ece
Disappearing world: Global warming claims tropical island
For the first time, an inhabited island has disappeared beneath rising
seas.
Environment Editor Geoffrey Lean reports
Rising seas, caused by global warming, have for the first time washed
an inhabited island off the face of the Earth.
This article is the ONLY source of ANY information about Lohachara
Island. Can it be that the article is, dare I say it, a work of pro-GW
fiction? Yes, I dare.
The obliteration of Lohachara island, in India's part of the
Sundarbans where the Ganges and the Brahmaputra rivers empty into the
Bay of Bengal, marks the moment when one of the most apocalyptic
predictions of environmentalists and climate scientists has started
coming true.
Lohachara is one of the 102 so-called islands that comprise the
Sundarbans National Park, a marine estuary delta. The term marine mud
flats might also apply to most of it.
Still, some 4 million Indians live in the area - National Forest or not.
As the seas continue to swell, they will swallow whole island nations,
from the Maldives to the Marshall Islands, inundate vast areas of
countries from Bangladesh to Egypt, and submerge parts of scores of
coastal cities.
Eight years ago, as exclusively reported in The Independent on Sunday,
the first uninhabited islands - in the Pacific atoll nation of
Kiribati - vanished beneath the waves.
*****. Kiribati is alive and well. Go see the CIA World Factbook,
2006 edition at:
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kr.html
The people of low-lying islands in Vanuatu, also in the Pacific, have
been evacuated as a precaution, but the land still juts above the sea.
The disappearance of Lohachara, once home to 10,000 people, is
unprecedented.
It has been officially recorded in a six-year study of the Sunderbans
by researchers at Calcutta's Jadavpur University.
So remote is the island that the researchers first learned of its
submergence, and that of an uninhabited neighbouring island,
Suparibhanga, when they saw they had vanished from satellite pictures.
<SNIP>
Uh-huh. There also appears to be a sunken city that's been found off
the northwestern coast of India. GW drowned it about 9,500 years back,
shortly after the last Ice Age ended. It's now at a depth of some 130 feet.
http://www.hermetics.org/cambay.html
Ask me if I'm really going to worry about the Lohachara Mudflat.
BTW, vast areas of Siberia, Greenland, and Antarctica will soon need
settlers. Maybe the Lohacharans...? Nah, they just moved back to
India's mainland.
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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