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"---Harley---" |
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25 Jul 2006 06:47:00 PM |
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Global Warming...... |
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
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| User: "carlos" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:03:26 PM |
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<<---Harley--->> wrote:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
Hello,
Actually, it's clear that you don't get it, so whatever you've got that
you think is "it," isn't "it."
I'll try to spell it out for you, clearly:
Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.
We can bet that those scientists are wrong, and do nothing. If we lose
that bet, we get devastation. If we win, we get the status quo
continued.
We can bet that those scientists are right, and act to change our ways.
If we win that bet, we avoid devastation. If we lose that bet, we
still avoid devastation, but we get a cleaner planet, too.
People who understand the situation choose the second bet, because we
win as a species either way.
People who are dupes, or tightwad industrialists, would choose the
first bet, because they could leave others holding the bag.
Carlos
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| User: "---Harléy-TNT-Davidson---" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:12:45 PM |
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Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.<
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What about the many scientist who agree that human activities are not
changing the
climate and may not be devastating to us?
TNT
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| User: "carlos" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:48:44 PM |
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<<---Harl=E9y-TNT-Davidson--->> wrote:
Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.<
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What about the many scientist who agree that human activities are not
changing the
climate and may not be devastating to us?
TNT
Hello,
If you believe them enough to risk the lives of your children and
everyone else, then you take the first bet I mentioned. If you're
wrong, and the other scientists who say we are screwing up the world
are right, what then?
Have you thought about the consequences of being wrong, TNT? The
consequences are death.
Carlos
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:14:32 PM |
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<<---Harléy-TNT-Davidson--->> wrote:
Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.<
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What about the many scientist who agree that human activities are not
changing the
climate and may not be devastating to us?
No ... wait ... let me guess.
They work for Harley Davidson?
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 10:41:19 PM |
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"<<---Harléy-TNT-Davidson--->>" <minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote in
message news:44c6b2ce$0$5369$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.<
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What about the many scientist who agree that human activities are not
changing the
climate and may not be devastating to us?
TNT
I work with scientists on a daily basis. I have never met one that thought
global warming was fake. I know some conservative scientists and they agree
with global warming theory.
So why not name the scientists you're talking about? Oh, they don't have
names, or addresses or CV's. The little man that wasn't there....
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| User: "reality" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:15:11 PM |
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carlos wrote:
<<---Harley--->> wrote:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
Hello,
Actually, it's clear that you don't get it, so whatever you've got that
you think is "it," isn't "it."
I'll try to spell it out for you, clearly:
Many scientists agree that our human activities are changing the
climate in ways that could be devastating to us.
We can bet that those scientists are wrong, and do nothing. If we lose
that bet, we get devastation. If we win, we get the status quo
continued.
We can bet that those scientists are right, and act to change our ways.
If we win that bet, we avoid devastation. If we lose that bet, we
still avoid devastation, but we get a cleaner planet, too.
People who understand the situation choose the second bet, because we
win as a species either way.
People who are dupes, or tightwad industrialists, would choose the
first bet, because they could leave others holding the bag.
People like Bush and those who suck his ***** choose the first bet out
of profound ignorance.
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| User: "Grendel" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 06:13:58 PM |
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<<---Harley--->> wrote:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
You forgot:
I stubbed my toe...caused by global warming.
The milk in the fridge is sour...caused by global warming.
My boss was mean to me...caused by global warming.
*insert any subject here*...caused by global warming..
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."
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| User: "Gman" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
27 Jul 2006 09:10:01 PM |
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"Never underestimate the stupidity of conservatives."
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| User: "JQPublic" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 07:34:33 PM |
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<<---Harley--->> wrote:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
No you don't. You're about as sharp as a bag of wet mice.
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| User: "Ron ONeal" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 10:10:55 AM |
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"<<---Harley--->>" <minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote in message
news:44c6acca$0$5254$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
Global warming is a slow process. One effect, just one, is that melting
polar ice will change the long term pattern of deep ocean currents (The Gulf
Stream keeps Europe relatively warm) and cause Europe to be much COLDER than
today. Most of Europe is at a higher latitude than New York City.
Helloooooooo.....
http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/viewArticle.do?id=9986
http://www.science.org.au/nova/018/018key.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/0627_050627_oceancurrent.htm
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RO
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| User: "C. Pangus" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 05:31:13 AM |
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"<<---Harley--->>" <minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote in message
news:44c6acca$0$5254$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
Global warming is making weather patterns more reflective of your mental
processes: unbalanced and chaotic.
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| User: "Grendel" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 10:29:57 AM |
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C. Pangus wrote:
"<<---Harley--->>" <minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote in message
news:44c6acca$0$5254$88260bb3@news.teranews.com...
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
Global warming is making weather patterns more reflective of your mental
processes: unbalanced and chaotic.
Q: When have weather patterns ever been 'balanced' and 'calm'?
A: Never.
The Earth's weather system is/has always been/will always be dynamic.
It is changing constantly, both in the micro and macro scale. Why is
it Global Warming Alarmist get to pick and choose a time when weather
was 'ideal' and any deviation from that point is disastrous and caused
by Global Warming. ("Okay, Billings Montana was 72 degrees on March
15th of 1967. ANY deviation from this, no matter if it's hotter or
colder or what time of year it is, is caused by GLOBAL WARMING!!!
DANGER!!! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!!")
I say we got back to the original climate....Toxic High Levels of CO2
and less than 8% oxygen (FYI, current levels are 20.8% and anything
below 19.5% is considered hazardous to humans). BUT, that was the way
it WAS and we should strive to get it there again.
Right?
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity, and gullibility, of tree-huggers."
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 10:35:08 AM |
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Grendel wrote:
[snip complete nonsense]
God, you're dumber than *****.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/mr_age.html
13.7 billion years of evolution, and this is what we get.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 01:10:14 PM |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Grendel wrote:
[snip complete nonsense]
God, you're dumber than *****.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/mr_age.html
13.7 billion years of evolution, and this is what we get.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
I'm sorry; I must have missed the part of your post where you actually
had something intelligent to say about the topic at hand, or for that
matter, where you responded at all. All I saw was a reference to the
supposed age of the universe (which was not being discussed) and some
lame assed web-site apparently put together by some 11 year old getting
his rocks off calling everybody some variant of '*****'.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of Thomas Lee Elfritz."
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| User: "carlos" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 01:53:13 PM |
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wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Grendel wrote:
[snip complete nonsense]
God, you're dumber than *****.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/mr_age.html
13.7 billion years of evolution, and this is what we get.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
I'm sorry; I must have missed the part of your post where you actually
had something intelligent to say about the topic at hand, or for that
matter, where you responded at all. All I saw was a reference to the
supposed age of the universe (which was not being discussed) and some
lame assed web-site apparently put together by some 11 year old getting
his rocks off calling everybody some variant of '*****'.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of Thomas Lee Elfritz."
Hello,
Thomas' post was accurate, but lacked citations of your idiocy.
As is usual with your ilk, you exaggerate the opposing sides' argument
in a deceitful way.
For example, I've not seen any global warming believer state an ideal
time and temperature.
They generally say something like the world's average temperature is
rising at an alarming rate, at least partly due to human action, which
could have dire consequences. But nobody says we've got to return to
the temperature of Montana in 1967 or whatever false argument you've
imagined.
The reason your side has to argue that way is because you can't win
when you argue the real issues, so you have to invent an argument that
you can defeat, and try to shove that in the mouths of your opponents.
Carlos
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| User: "Grendel" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 02:35:30 PM |
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carlos wrote:
wsthomas@bellsouth.net wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Grendel wrote:
[snip complete nonsense]
God, you're dumber than *****.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/mr_age.html
13.7 billion years of evolution, and this is what we get.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
I'm sorry; I must have missed the part of your post where you actually
had something intelligent to say about the topic at hand, or for that
matter, where you responded at all. All I saw was a reference to the
supposed age of the universe (which was not being discussed) and some
lame assed web-site apparently put together by some 11 year old getting
his rocks off calling everybody some variant of '*****'.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of Thomas Lee Elfritz."
Hello,
Thomas' post was accurate, but lacked citations of your idiocy.
As is usual with your ilk, you exaggerate the opposing sides' argument
in a deceitful way.
For example, I've not seen any global warming believer state an ideal
time and temperature.
The part about the weather on a particular date in Montana was sarcasm.
A trip into the absurd to illustrate just how Global Warming Alarmist
cherry pick their information. They spout information that supports
their claim, and ignore any that does not (and there is plenty that
does not support their theory).
I was attempting (obviously failing at it as it went completely over
your head) to point out the fact that there IS no 'ideal'
temperature that the Earth is 'supposed' to be. There is no ideal
coverage area for the ice caps. It is constantly changing. At one
point the Earth had NO ice caps, and it will probably not have them
again. At one point the ice caps extended into Kentucky, and they
probably will again. The Sahara Desert used to be a lush rainforest.
Are you blaming humans for that loss, too?
They generally say something like the world's average temperature is
rising at an alarming rate, at least partly due to human action, which
could have dire consequences. But nobody says we've got to return to
the temperature of Montana in 1967 or whatever false argument you've
imagined.
The reason your side has to argue that way is because you can't win
when you argue the real issues, so you have to invent an argument that
you can defeat, and try to shove that in the mouths of your opponents.
Since when has the Global Warming Alarmists argues 'real issues'. I
was pointing out the fact that the environment is dynamic, not static.
It never has been static and never will be. They claim the world's
average temperature is rising at an 'alarming rate', but to do that
they have to exaggerate the actual rate of rise. They also have to
ignore the fact that the average temperature is cyclic, rising and
falling between ice ages, and also ignore the fact that man's impact on
the macro scale is insignificant when compared to the output of one
volcano or the effect the cyclic nature of the output of Sol has. (on
the micro scale, man does have some impact [see 'heat island
effect'] but on the macro, it's insignificant at best). If we had
so much effect on the environment, don't you think we'd be successfull
making it rain in drought areas.
Is the average mean temperature rising? Yes, I've never argued that.
But the rates they put forth are, for the most part, cherry picked from
very specific sites and when taken as a whole along with areas where
temps are static or average less, turn out to be less then they blather
about.
Also, globally, the average temperature has been rising since the
middle of the last ice age approximately 18,000 years ago. So, man and
it's industry of the last 150 years is responsible for the continuing
rise of temperature for the last 18 centuries?
Could rising temperatures have dire consequences? Yes, of course, for
humans. I'm sure the Earth will survive. The Earth really doesn't
give a ***** if we make it or not. My personal belief is that everyone
running around in electric powered rollerskates is not going to make
one wit of difference.
Of course, as this is not presented to you in your weekly
'Enviro-Weenie Talking Points' newsletter you will, of course, blather
on about how you are 'enlightened' and are so much smarter than anyone
else.
And don't start this ***** about "ALL scientist have found....",
because not ALL scientist, not even a vast majority, agree with the
global warming alarmist. (Hell, even four out of five Dentist think
the fifth one is an *****. So if THEY can't agree....).
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the slobbering rantings of radical enviro-weenies."
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| User: "QueersHateHarleys" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 03:29:31 PM |
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The GREAT Grendel !!!
"Grendel" <wsthomas@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1153942530.176434.227260@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
<Snip>
Grendel may or may not be the killer of Cain, but you just killed some
squealing left-wing buttboys by making them look like a bunch of dumbasses.
Good job. ;-)
TNT
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| User: "Gman" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
26 Jul 2006 06:06:58 PM |
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carlos wrote:
wsthomas@bellsouth.net wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Grendel wrote:
[snip complete nonsense]
God, you're dumber than *****.
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/mr_age.html
13.7 billion years of evolution, and this is what we get.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
I'm sorry; I must have missed the part of your post where you actually
had something intelligent to say about the topic at hand, or for that
matter, where you responded at all. All I saw was a reference to the
supposed age of the universe (which was not being discussed) and some
lame assed web-site apparently put together by some 11 year old getting
his rocks off calling everybody some variant of '*****'.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of Thomas Lee Elfritz."
Hello,
Thomas' post was accurate, but lacked citations of your idiocy.
As is usual with your ilk, you exaggerate the opposing sides' argument
in a deceitful way.
For example, I've not seen any global warming believer state an ideal
time and temperature.
They generally say something like the world's average temperature is
rising at an alarming rate, at least partly due to human action, which
could have dire consequences. But nobody says we've got to return to
the temperature of Montana in 1967 or whatever false argument you've
imagined.
The reason your side has to argue that way is because you can't win
when you argue the real issues, so you have to invent an argument that
you can defeat, and try to shove that in the mouths of your opponents.
Carlos
You're right Carlos but these postings beat the hell out anything by
"Bible Bob". Let's just be happy he doesn't show up in this topic.
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| User: "Nosmo King ." |
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25 Jul 2006 07:08:43 PM |
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"<<---Harley--->>" <minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote in news:44c6acca
$0$5254$88260bb3@news.teranews.com:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
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| User: "Neocon Oil Cheerleaders" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 06:56:09 PM |
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In article <44c6acca$0$5254$88260bb3@news.teranews.com>, minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876 says...
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
You don't get anything:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22global+warming
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: Global Warming...... |
25 Jul 2006 09:01:26 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:47:00 -0500, "<<---Harley--->>"
<minus@mok.5qwertyoiuuighynm8876> wrote:
Record snow...caused by global warming.
Record cold...caused by global warming.
Record heat...caused by global warming.
Record rain...caused by global warming.
Record drought...caused by global warming.
Now, I get it. LOL!!
TNT
In a world full of uncertainty it is comforting to have a single
answer to all life's mysteries.
--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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