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14 Mar 2006 02:21:51 AM |
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GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS! |
GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS!
NEW INFORMATION IS SO POWERFUL IT WAS IMMEDIATELY CENSORED OFF THE ORIGINAL
SOURCE!
The global warming theory has caused an absolute shower of research money to
fall down upon the heads of atmospheric scientists -- people who once got
little funding. So, few atmospheric scientists question the theory outright.
It would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Even when they find something good about global warming they manage to make
it sound bad. There is for instance a report showing that warmer seas
produce more fish. Anyone who likes fish dinners (as I do) would think that
was excellent news. But the article written about it in fact sounds very
mournful. You have to look very closely at it to see the good news.
So the only scientists who often question the theory are Russian scientists
(they don't get much in the way of research grants anyway) and retired
scientists (their research grant days are over).
So what happens when somebody gathers some data that throw the theory into a
cocked hat? The report gets censored. A Russian scientist presented some
findings that were reported here: http://www.physorg.com/news11671.html on a
respectable Western physics site. The title of the article was: "Greenhouse
theory smashed by biggest stone". But the article was up for only a matter
of hours before it was taken down. And if you do a Google search or an MSN
search you will find no copy of the story anywhere on the net. The
censorship was thorough.
But not thorough enough. I have a copy of it! The article appears below.
A new theory to explain global warming was revealed at a meeting at the
University of Leicester (UK) and is being considered for publication in the
journal "Science First Hand". The controversial theory has nothing to do
with burning fossil fuels and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. According
to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent rise
in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred
years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to
human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil.
Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high
altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the
mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the
earth's surface.
Shaidurov has used a detailed analysis of the mean temperature change by
year for the last 140 years and explains that there was a slight decrease in
temperature until the early twentieth century. This flies in the face of
current global warming theories that blame a rise in temperature on rising
carbon dioxide emissions since the start of the industrial revolution.
Shaidurov, however, suggests that the rise, which began between 1906 and
1909, could have had a very different cause, which he believes was the
massive Tunguska Event, which rocked a remote part of Siberia, northwest of
Lake Baikal on the 30th June 1908.
The Tunguska Event, sometimes known as the Tungus Meteorite is thought to
have resulted from an asteroid or comet entering the earth's atmosphere and
exploding. The event released as much energy as fifteen one-megaton atomic
bombs. As well as blasting an enormous amount of dust into the atmosphere,
felling 60 million trees over an area of more than 2000 square kilometres.
Shaidurov suggests that this explosion would have caused "considerable
stirring of the high layers of atmosphere and change its structure." Such
meteoric disruption was the trigger for the subsequent rise in global
temperatures.
Global warming is thought to be caused by the "greenhouse effect". Energy
from the sun reaches the earth's surface and warms it, without the
greenhouse effect most of this energy is then lost as the heat radiates back
into space. However, the presence of so-called greenhouse gases at high
altitude absorb much of this energy and then radiate a proportion back
towards the earth's surface. Causing temperatures to rise.
Many natural gases and some of those released by conventional power
stations, vehicle and aircraft exhausts act as greenhouse gases. Carbon
dioxide, natural gas, or methane, and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) are all
potent greenhouse gases. Carbon dioxide and methane are found naturally in
the atmosphere, but it is the gradual rise in levels of these gases since
the industrial revolution, and in particular the beginning of the twentieth
century, that scientists have blamed for the gradual rise in recorded global
temperature. Attempts to reverse global warming, such as the Kyoto Protocol,
have centred on controlling and even reducing CO2 emissions.
However, the most potent greenhouse gas is water, explains Shaidurov and it
is this compound on which his study focuses. According to Shaidurov, only
small changes in the atmospheric levels of water, in the form of vapour and
ice crystals can contribute to significant changes to the temperature of the
earth's surface, which far outweighs the effects of carbon dioxide and other
gases released by human activities. Just a rise of 1% of water vapour could
raise the global average temperature of Earth's surface more then 4 degrees
Celsius.
The role of water vapour in controlling our planet's temperature was hinted
at almost 150 years ago by Irish scientist John Tyndall. Tyndall, who also
provided an explanation as to why the sky is blue, explained the problem:
"The strongest radiant heat absorber, is the most important gas controlling
Earth's temperature. Without water vapour, he wrote, the Earth's surface
would be 'held fast in the iron grip of frost'." Thin clouds at high
altitude allow sunlight to reach the earth's surface, but reflect back
radiated heat, acting as an insulating greenhouse layer.
Water vapour levels are even less within our control than CO levels.
According to Andrew E. Dessler of the Texas A & M University writing in 'The
Science and Politics of Global Climate Change', "Human activities do not
control all greenhouse gases, however. The most powerful greenhouse gas in
the atmosphere is water vapour, he says, "Human activities have little
direct control over its atmospheric abundance, which is controlled instead
by the worldwide balance between evaporation from the oceans and
precipitation."
As such, Shaidurov has concluded that only an enormous natural phenomenon,
such as an asteroid or comet impact or airburst, could seriously disturb
atmospheric water levels, destroying persistent so-called 'silver', or
noctilucent, clouds composed of ice crystals in the high altitude mesosphere
(50 to 85km). The Tunguska Event was just such an event, and coincides with
the period of time during which global temperatures appear to have been
rising the most steadily - the twentieth century. There are many
hypothetical mechanisms of how this mesosphere catastrophe might have
occurred, and future research is needed to provide a definitive answer.
Source: University of Leicester
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| User: "PagCal" |
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| Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS! |
14 Mar 2006 03:51:30 AM |
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1)
net global warming = sum of natural causes PLUS sum of man-made causes
Your new theory is not a new theory at all. Scientists have known for
years that 'natural causes' effect temperature. What they do point out
though, is that these same effects are caused by man's pollution, and
therefore add to the overall global warming.
2)
Your headlines don't agree with the body of the text. The paper
discusses a new theory, and does not tear down existing theories.
3)
Did you ever think the reason you can't find the paper published in a
reputable source is that the authors have insufficient data to backup
their statements? This is most likely the case, and not one of 'funding'
as you describe.
Big Pete wrote:
GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS!
NEW INFORMATION IS SO POWERFUL IT WAS IMMEDIATELY CENSORED OFF THE ORIGINAL
SOURCE!
The global warming theory has caused an absolute shower of research money to
fall down upon the heads of atmospheric scientists -- people who once got
little funding. So, few atmospheric scientists question the theory outright.
It would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Even when they find something good about global warming they manage to make
it sound bad. There is for instance a report showing that warmer seas
produce more fish. Anyone who likes fish dinners (as I do) would think that
was excellent news. But the article written about it in fact sounds very
mournful. You have to look very closely at it to see the good news.
So the only scientists who often question the theory are Russian scientists
(they don't get much in the way of research grants anyway) and retired
scientists (their research grant days are over).
So what happens when somebody gathers some data that throw the theory into a
cocked hat? The report gets censored. A Russian scientist presented some
findings that were reported here: http://www.physorg.com/news11671.html on a
respectable Western physics site. The title of the article was: "Greenhouse
theory smashed by biggest stone". But the article was up for only a matter
of hours before it was taken down. And if you do a Google search or an MSN
search you will find no copy of the story anywhere on the net. The
censorship was thorough.
But not thorough enough. I have a copy of it! The article appears below.
A new theory to explain global warming was revealed at a meeting at the
University of Leicester (UK) and is being considered for publication in the
journal "Science First Hand". The controversial theory has nothing to do
with burning fossil fuels and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. According
to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent rise
in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred
years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to
human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil.
Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high
altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the
mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the
earth's surface.
Shaidurov has used a detailed analysis of the mean temperature change by
year for the last 140 years and explains that there was a slight decrease in
temperature until the early twentieth century. This flies in the face of
current global warming theories that blame a rise in temperature on rising
carbon dioxide emissions since the start of the industrial revolution.
Shaidurov, however, suggests that the rise, which began between 1906 and
1909, could have had a very different cause, which he believes was the
massive Tunguska Event, which rocked a remote part of Siberia, northwest of
Lake Baikal on the 30th June 1908.
The Tunguska Event, sometimes known as the Tungus Meteorite is thought to
have resulted from an asteroid or comet entering the earth's atmosphere and
exploding. The event released as much energy as fifteen one-megaton atomic
bombs. As well as blasting an enormous amount of dust into the atmosphere,
felling 60 million trees over an area of more than 2000 square kilometres.
Shaidurov suggests that this explosion would have caused "considerable
stirring of the high layers of atmosphere and change its structure." Such
meteoric disruption was the trigger for the subsequent rise in global
temperatures.
Global warming is thought to be caused by the "greenhouse effect". Energy
from the sun reaches the earth's surface and warms it, without the
greenhouse effect most of this energy is then lost as the heat radiates back
into space. However, the presence of so-called greenhouse gases at high
altitude absorb much of this energy and then radiate a proportion back
towards the earth's surface. Causing temperatures to rise.
Many natural gases and some of those released by conventional power
stations, vehicle and aircraft exhausts act as greenhouse gases. Carbon
dioxide, natural gas, or methane, and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) are all
potent greenhouse gases. Carbon dioxide and methane are found naturally in
the atmosphere, but it is the gradual rise in levels of these gases since
the industrial revolution, and in particular the beginning of the twentieth
century, that scientists have blamed for the gradual rise in recorded global
temperature. Attempts to reverse global warming, such as the Kyoto Protocol,
have centred on controlling and even reducing CO2 emissions.
However, the most potent greenhouse gas is water, explains Shaidurov and it
is this compound on which his study focuses. According to Shaidurov, only
small changes in the atmospheric levels of water, in the form of vapour and
ice crystals can contribute to significant changes to the temperature of the
earth's surface, which far outweighs the effects of carbon dioxide and other
gases released by human activities. Just a rise of 1% of water vapour could
raise the global average temperature of Earth's surface more then 4 degrees
Celsius.
The role of water vapour in controlling our planet's temperature was hinted
at almost 150 years ago by Irish scientist John Tyndall. Tyndall, who also
provided an explanation as to why the sky is blue, explained the problem:
"The strongest radiant heat absorber, is the most important gas controlling
Earth's temperature. Without water vapour, he wrote, the Earth's surface
would be 'held fast in the iron grip of frost'." Thin clouds at high
altitude allow sunlight to reach the earth's surface, but reflect back
radiated heat, acting as an insulating greenhouse layer.
Water vapour levels are even less within our control than CO levels.
According to Andrew E. Dessler of the Texas A & M University writing in 'The
Science and Politics of Global Climate Change', "Human activities do not
control all greenhouse gases, however. The most powerful greenhouse gas in
the atmosphere is water vapour, he says, "Human activities have little
direct control over its atmospheric abundance, which is controlled instead
by the worldwide balance between evaporation from the oceans and
precipitation."
As such, Shaidurov has concluded that only an enormous natural phenomenon,
such as an asteroid or comet impact or airburst, could seriously disturb
atmospheric water levels, destroying persistent so-called 'silver', or
noctilucent, clouds composed of ice crystals in the high altitude mesosphere
(50 to 85km). The Tunguska Event was just such an event, and coincides with
the period of time during which global temperatures appear to have been
rising the most steadily - the twentieth century. There are many
hypothetical mechanisms of how this mesosphere catastrophe might have
occurred, and future research is needed to provide a definitive answer.
Source: University of Leicester
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| User: "ClassWarz" |
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| Title: Re: GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS! |
14 Mar 2006 05:48:36 AM |
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Hey kids, Baghdad Bob is back!
ClassWarz
"Big Pete" <PeteHinds8475@honkermail.com> wrote in message
news:dv5ueu$gkk$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
GLOBAL WARMING THEORY SMASHED BY SCIENTISTS!
NEW INFORMATION IS SO POWERFUL IT WAS IMMEDIATELY CENSORED OFF THE
ORIGINAL
SOURCE!
The global warming theory has caused an absolute shower of research money
to
fall down upon the heads of atmospheric scientists -- people who once got
little funding. So, few atmospheric scientists question the theory
outright.
It would kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Even when they find something good about global warming they manage to
make
it sound bad. There is for instance a report showing that warmer seas
produce more fish. Anyone who likes fish dinners (as I do) would think
that
was excellent news. But the article written about it in fact sounds very
mournful. You have to look very closely at it to see the good news.
So the only scientists who often question the theory are Russian
scientists
(they don't get much in the way of research grants anyway) and retired
scientists (their research grant days are over).
So what happens when somebody gathers some data that throw the theory into
a
cocked hat? The report gets censored. A Russian scientist presented some
findings that were reported here: http://www.physorg.com/news11671.html on
a
respectable Western physics site. The title of the article was:
"Greenhouse
theory smashed by biggest stone". But the article was up for only a matter
of hours before it was taken down. And if you do a Google search or an MSN
search you will find no copy of the story anywhere on the net. The
censorship was thorough.
But not thorough enough. I have a copy of it! The article appears below.
A new theory to explain global warming was revealed at a meeting at the
University of Leicester (UK) and is being considered for publication in
the
journal "Science First Hand". The controversial theory has nothing to do
with burning fossil fuels and atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. According
to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent
rise
in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred
years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to
human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil.
Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high
altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the
mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the
earth's surface.
Shaidurov has used a detailed analysis of the mean temperature change by
year for the last 140 years and explains that there was a slight decrease
in
temperature until the early twentieth century. This flies in the face of
current global warming theories that blame a rise in temperature on rising
carbon dioxide emissions since the start of the industrial revolution.
Shaidurov, however, suggests that the rise, which began between 1906 and
1909, could have had a very different cause, which he believes was the
massive Tunguska Event, which rocked a remote part of Siberia, northwest
of
Lake Baikal on the 30th June 1908.
The Tunguska Event, sometimes known as the Tungus Meteorite is thought to
have resulted from an asteroid or comet entering the earth's atmosphere
and
exploding. The event released as much energy as fifteen one-megaton atomic
bombs. As well as blasting an enormous amount of dust into the atmosphere,
felling 60 million trees over an area of more than 2000 square kilometres.
Shaidurov suggests that this explosion would have caused "considerable
stirring of the high layers of atmosphere and change its structure." Such
meteoric disruption was the trigger for the subsequent rise in global
temperatures.
Global warming is thought to be caused by the "greenhouse effect". Energy
from the sun reaches the earth's surface and warms it, without the
greenhouse effect most of this energy is then lost as the heat radiates
back
into space. However, the presence of so-called greenhouse gases at high
altitude absorb much of this energy and then radiate a proportion back
towards the earth's surface. Causing temperatures to rise.
Many natural gases and some of those released by conventional power
stations, vehicle and aircraft exhausts act as greenhouse gases. Carbon
dioxide, natural gas, or methane, and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) are all
potent greenhouse gases. Carbon dioxide and methane are found naturally in
the atmosphere, but it is the gradual rise in levels of these gases since
the industrial revolution, and in particular the beginning of the
twentieth
century, that scientists have blamed for the gradual rise in recorded
global
temperature. Attempts to reverse global warming, such as the Kyoto
Protocol,
have centred on controlling and even reducing CO2 emissions.
However, the most potent greenhouse gas is water, explains Shaidurov and
it
is this compound on which his study focuses. According to Shaidurov, only
small changes in the atmospheric levels of water, in the form of vapour
and
ice crystals can contribute to significant changes to the temperature of
the
earth's surface, which far outweighs the effects of carbon dioxide and
other
gases released by human activities. Just a rise of 1% of water vapour
could
raise the global average temperature of Earth's surface more then 4
degrees
Celsius.
The role of water vapour in controlling our planet's temperature was
hinted
at almost 150 years ago by Irish scientist John Tyndall. Tyndall, who also
provided an explanation as to why the sky is blue, explained the problem:
"The strongest radiant heat absorber, is the most important gas
controlling
Earth's temperature. Without water vapour, he wrote, the Earth's surface
would be 'held fast in the iron grip of frost'." Thin clouds at high
altitude allow sunlight to reach the earth's surface, but reflect back
radiated heat, acting as an insulating greenhouse layer.
Water vapour levels are even less within our control than CO levels.
According to Andrew E. Dessler of the Texas A & M University writing in
'The
Science and Politics of Global Climate Change', "Human activities do not
control all greenhouse gases, however. The most powerful greenhouse gas in
the atmosphere is water vapour, he says, "Human activities have little
direct control over its atmospheric abundance, which is controlled instead
by the worldwide balance between evaporation from the oceans and
precipitation."
As such, Shaidurov has concluded that only an enormous natural phenomenon,
such as an asteroid or comet impact or airburst, could seriously disturb
atmospheric water levels, destroying persistent so-called 'silver', or
noctilucent, clouds composed of ice crystals in the high altitude
mesosphere
(50 to 85km). The Tunguska Event was just such an event, and coincides
with
the period of time during which global temperatures appear to have been
rising the most steadily - the twentieth century. There are many
hypothetical mechanisms of how this mesosphere catastrophe might have
occurred, and future research is needed to provide a definitive answer.
Source: University of Leicester
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