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"Anti-Venom" |
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28 Mar 2007 12:34:29 PM |
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"Global Worldview" is Dead |
Despite the tons of lectures under Clinton about how we needed to have
a "global worldview," the only one that seems to still have this view
is the USA.
When you approach EU or China or others about Iraq, they say that it
is not their concern whether Iraq succeed or not. They say the same
about Israel's defense. What happened to their condemnation of the
USA that we were too isolationist.
Now, UK is cutting its navy in half (which we see happening elsewhere
too). Why? They want to focus more on EU matters and less on world
matters.
It's not the first time we see this hypocrisy. During the Tsunami,
the US was condemned for not contributing to more recovery missions,
yet where was the world response (and funds) for Katrina's damage?
For that matter, did the world community contribute ONE DIME to help
New York recover following 9-11?
Now, Democrat liberals in Congress want to cut funds for the Iraqi war
and leave them defenseless. Their reason? We should focus on more
things at home and not on global concerns.
The Global Worldview is dead, though one must wonder if it ever
existed to begin with or was simply a way to get money out of the US
for other countries from the start.
Ken Clifton
lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: "Global Worldview" is Dead |
29 Mar 2007 09:18:52 AM |
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"Anti-Venom" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175103269.908687.275710@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Despite the tons of lectures under Clinton about how we needed to have
a "global worldview," the only one that seems to still have this view
is the USA.
When you approach EU or China or others about Iraq, they say that it
is not their concern whether Iraq succeed or not.
Got one single cite for that?
They say the same
about Israel's defense. What happened to their condemnation of the
USA that we were too isolationist.
So the only alternative to isolationism is to be an out of control pariah
state?
Now, UK is cutting its navy in half (which we see happening elsewhere
too). Why? They want to focus more on EU matters and less on world
matters.
No - Europe is a far more mature society than America - we understand that
diplomacy is a superior method of settling differences than is killing
thousands of people. Especially when it's the wrong people.
It's not the first time we see this hypocrisy. During the Tsunami,
the US was condemned for not contributing to more recovery missions,
yet where was the world response (and funds) for Katrina's damage?
The offers of help from Britain were refused by the chimp.
For that matter, did the world community contribute ONE DIME to help
New York recover following 9-11?
No it didn't - it contributed millions of dollars.
Now, Democrat liberals in Congress want to cut funds for the Iraqi war
and leave them defenseless.
What 'war'? You mean your sordid little failed base-building exercise?
It's already over - you lost. The only question remaining is how to run away
while making it look like a 'victory'.
Get used to it.
Their reason? We should focus on more
things at home and not on global concerns.
Who said that? Name one single person.
The Global Worldview is dead, though one must wonder if it ever
existed to begin with or was simply a way to get money out of the US
for other countries from the start.
Well if it was it didn't work - the USA is 22nd on the list of per capita
contributers to foreign aid - the stingiest of all the developed nations.
Congratulations - you managed to be wrong 6 times in one post.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "Global Worldview" is Dead |
29 Mar 2007 10:13:08 AM |
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First off.. I think *your* worldview is totally messed-up. I seriously
wonder how you can reconcile so many contradictory impressions. I will
try to help..
On Mar 28, 9:34 am, "Anti-Venom" <writing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Despite the tons of lectures under Clinton about how we needed to have
a "global worldview," the only one that seems to still have this view
is the USA.
The destructive 'worldview' that you espouse was publicly initiated by
Bush I - not Clinton - when Bush proclaimed the initiation of 'The New
Worl Order'.
When you approach EU or China or others about Iraq, they say that it
is not their concern whether Iraq succeed or not.
Apples and oranges... China does not openly interfere in internal
matters of other countries (because it does not wish the same
treatment), while the EU is a loose aglomeration of go-slow communism.
Currentlty the EU is more concerned with increasing its control
internally.
They say the same about Israel's defense.
Israel's defence should be its own problem - not the US's.
What happened to their condemnation of the
USA that we were too isolationist.
Who cares?
Now, UK is cutting its navy in half (which we see happening elsewhere
too). Why? They want to focus more on EU matters and less on world
matters.
Don't fool yourself. Money drives interest. Wherever british
financiers have interests you will also find military influence;
their's, the US's, or other proxy forces. Besides.. the UK (Bliar)
just announced an entirely new nuclear weapons system for the UK.
Now, Democrat liberals in Congress want to cut funds for the Iraqi war
and leave them defenseless. Their reason? We should focus on more
things at home and not on global concerns.
And you're just flat-out wrong. Have you checked the US's military
budget?
It's over 600 BILLION per year.. which just about equals the rest of
the planet's outlay.
A completely insane waste of money... especially when our own citizens
are suffering from continuing globalization.
The Global Worldview is dead, though one must wonder if it ever
existed to begin with or was simply a way to get money out of the US
for other countries from the start.
Globalization is alive and well.
US based neocons have been very successful in sucking the economic
life-blood from americans.
The mechanism for doing that - exporting industries to cheaper labor
markets overseas - has produced tremendous profits for these economic
traitors which only they enjoy - while the rest of the US suffers.
US citizens must demand change in order to save themselves from
ruination.
The destructive WTO, NAFTA, and other exploitation mechanisms used
must be junked.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: "Global Worldview" is Dead |
28 Mar 2007 01:30:52 PM |
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In article <1175103269.908687.275710@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> "Anti-Venom" <writingken@yahoo.com> writes:
Despite the tons of lectures under Clinton about how we needed to have
a "global worldview," the only one that seems to still have this view
is the USA.
True: looking at Official Development Assistance as a percent of
gross national product, the United States lags only behind Norway.
Oh, and Denmark. Well, and Luxembourg. And Sweden. Belgium. Ireland,
France, Switzerland. The United Kingdom. Finland. Germany, Canada,
and Spain. Australia, New Zealand, Portugal, Greece, Japan,
Austria. And Italy.
When you approach EU or China or others about Iraq, they say that it
is not their concern whether Iraq succeed or not. They say the same
about Israel's defense. What happened to their condemnation of the
USA that we were too isolationist.
Now, UK is cutting its navy in half (which we see happening elsewhere
too). Why? They want to focus more on EU matters and less on world
matters.
Ah, for the days when the sun never set on the Empire...
It's not the first time we see this hypocrisy. During the Tsunami,
the US was condemned for not contributing to more recovery missions,
yet where was the world response (and funds) for Katrina's damage?
For that matter, did the world community contribute ONE DIME to help
New York recover following 9-11?
If Bill Gates house burned down, would your church take up a
collection?
That said:
At first, U.S. officials, while thanking the United Nations for its
offer, did not request any assistance.
But Thursday, U.S. officials indicated they are open to all offers as
dozens of foreign governments lined up to pledge assistance.
Secretary Condoleeza Rice, after consulting with the White House, "has
made it clear that we will accept all offers of foreign assistance,"
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said in Washington.
"Anything that can be of help to alleviate the difficult situation, the
tragic situation, of the people of the area affected by Hurricane
Katrina will be accepted," McCormack said.
"America should be heartened by the fact that the world is reaching out
to America at a time of need."
As of Thursday the countries and international organizations willing to
help include - Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany,
Venezuela, the Organization of American States, Jamaica, NATO,
Australia, the United Kingdom, Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece,
Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China,
South Korea, Israel and the United Arab Emirates."
The list of countries offering assistance is "growing literally by the
hour," McCormack said.
The Australian government today announced a donation of A$10 million to
assist the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The funds will go to the
American Red Cross which is at the forefront of assisting those
displaced and left homeless by the tragedy.
Now, Democrat liberals in Congress want to cut funds for the Iraqi war
and leave them defenseless.
Which "them" is defenseless? Do the Sunnis lack sufficent armament
to defend themselves against the Shi'ia, or is it the other way
around?
Their reason? We should focus on more
things at home and not on global concerns.
The Global Worldview is dead, though one must wonder if it ever
existed to begin with or was simply a way to get money out of the US
for other countries from the start.
Ken Clifton
lulu.com/writingken
-- cary
sources:
http://salt.claretianpubs.org/stats/2005/01/sh0501a.html
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2005/2005-09-02-03.asp
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: "Global Worldview" is Dead |
29 Mar 2007 09:21:58 AM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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As of Thursday the countries and international organizations willing to
help include - Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany,
Venezuela, the Organization of American States, Jamaica, NATO,
Australia, the United Kingdom,
I remember hearing at the time that our (UK) offers of assistance had been
refused.
?
Must have been a Fox News story.
Sorry.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: "Global Worldview" is Dead |
29 Mar 2007 11:17:39 AM |
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In article <460bcb74@quokka.wn.com.au> "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@westnet.com.au> writes:
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:euec8s$r9s$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
As of Thursday the countries and international organizations willing to
help include - Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany,
Venezuela, the Organization of American States, Jamaica, NATO,
Australia, the United Kingdom,
I remember hearing at the time that our (UK) offers of assistance had been
refused.
?
Must have been a Fox News story.
Sorry.
I do believe we turned down rather pointed offers from Hugo Chavez.
-- cary
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