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Gonzo Digs a Deeper Hole |
From TIME Magazine, 7/24/07:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1646714,00.html
Gonzales Digs a Deeper Hole
By JAY NEWTON-SMALL/WASHINGTON
Just when it seemed that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' reputation
on Capitol Hill couldn't possibly get much worse, he showed up Tuesday
for yet another hearing.
And as with so many of his recent appearances before Congress, his
testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee raised a lot more
troubling questions than it answered — not just about his own conduct
of and honesty about the U.S. Attorney firings, but also about the
Administration's domestic intelligence gathering programs.
That new wrinkle stemmed from Gonzales' testy exchange with Senator
Arlen Specter, the panel's top Republican.
Specter opened up with former Deputy Attorney General James Comey's
testimony to the panel in May over Gonzales' actions while serving as
White House Counsel.
Comey had alleged that Gonzales tried to convince an ailing Attorney
General John Ashcroft, who was in the hospital recovering from
gallbladder surgery, to sign off on Bush's warrantless wiretapping
program.
"There are no rules saying he couldn't take back authority," Gonzales
said, trying to explain that they had hoped Ashcroft might be able to
sign off on an intelligence program due to expire the next day, a
program that Comey as acting AG had refused to renew.
But what Specter really wanted to know was how that meeting squared
with Gonzales' previous testimony that there had been no serious
internal disagreements over the program.
Gonzales seemed to believe he had a simple explanation.
"The disagreement that occurred was about other intelligence
activities, and the reason for the visit to the hospital was about
other intelligence activities," the Attorney General said.
"It was not about the terrorist surveillance program that the
president announced to the American people."
Both Specter and later Senator Chuck Schumer latched onto Gonzales'
puzzling comment.
Schumer in particular brought up several examples where in sworn
testimony Gonzales has named the Terrorist Surveillance Program as the
one at issue during the hospital visit to Ashcroft's room.
Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy then ordered a complete review of
Gonzales' statements to the committee.
"This is such a significant and major point," Leahy said.
"There's a discrepancy here in sworn testimony and we're going to find
out who's telling the truth."
Specter later circled back to Gonzales on the matter, warning him: "My
suggestion to you is you review your testimony to find out if your
credibility has been breached to the point of being actionable,"
Specter said.
The maximum penalty for being caught lying to Congress is five years
in prison and a fine of $250,000 per count.
Specter wryly noted to reporters during a break that there is a jail
in the Capitol complex.
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Perjury anyone?
Harry
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| User: "Perseid" |
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25 Jul 2007 10:11:34 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
Spat the Words
From TIME Magazine, 7/24/07:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1646714,00.html
Gonzales Digs a Deeper Hole
By JAY NEWTON-SMALL/WASHINGTON
Just when it seemed that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' reputation
on Capitol Hill couldn't possibly get much worse, he showed up Tuesday
for yet another hearing.
And as with so many of his recent appearances before Congress, his
testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee raised a lot more
troubling questions than it answered — not just about his own conduct
of and honesty about the U.S. Attorney firings, but also about the
Administration's domestic intelligence gathering programs.
That new wrinkle stemmed from Gonzales' testy exchange with Senator
Arlen Specter, the panel's top Republican.
Specter opened up with former Deputy Attorney General James Comey's
testimony to the panel in May over Gonzales' actions while serving as
White House Counsel.
Comey had alleged that Gonzales tried to convince an ailing Attorney
General John Ashcroft, who was in the hospital recovering from
gallbladder surgery, to sign off on Bush's warrantless wiretapping
program.
"There are no rules saying he couldn't take back authority," Gonzales
said, trying to explain that they had hoped Ashcroft might be able to
sign off on an intelligence program due to expire the next day, a
program that Comey as acting AG had refused to renew.
But what Specter really wanted to know was how that meeting squared
with Gonzales' previous testimony that there had been no serious
internal disagreements over the program.
Gonzales seemed to believe he had a simple explanation.
"The disagreement that occurred was about other intelligence
activities, and the reason for the visit to the hospital was about
other intelligence activities," the Attorney General said.
"It was not about the terrorist surveillance program that the
president announced to the American people."
Both Specter and later Senator Chuck Schumer latched onto Gonzales'
puzzling comment.
Schumer in particular brought up several examples where in sworn
testimony Gonzales has named the Terrorist Surveillance Program as the
one at issue during the hospital visit to Ashcroft's room.
Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy then ordered a complete review of
Gonzales' statements to the committee.
"This is such a significant and major point," Leahy said.
"There's a discrepancy here in sworn testimony and we're going to find
out who's telling the truth."
Specter later circled back to Gonzales on the matter, warning him: "My
suggestion to you is you review your testimony to find out if your
credibility has been breached to the point of being actionable,"
Specter said.
The maximum penalty for being caught lying to Congress is five years
in prison and a fine of $250,000 per count.
Ouch ! That could put Gonzo in jail until 2050 and bankrupt his entire
extended family tree. I hope sucking Bush's ***** was worth it for him.
Specter wryly noted to reporters during a break that there is a jail
in the Capitol complex.
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Perjury anyone?
Harry
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| User: "Citizen Jimserac" |
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25 Jul 2007 08:03:24 AM |
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On Jul 25, 6:38 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From TIME Magazine, 7/24/07:http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1646714,00.html
Gonzales Digs a Deeper Hole
There is NO hope for Gonzales.
I watched some of the hearings on CSPAN and was
astonished at several exchanges but the most
memorable one was the bit when he admitted
that he had "misspoke" at a news conference
but he said that he "clarified" the error
with a reporter a couple of days later.
When pressed on this, he admitted that it
was not he himself but one of his aides (!!!)
that did the clarification and when
pressed more, he admitted
that he did NOT KNOW WHAT THAT
CLARIFICATION WAS (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
For the Attorney General of the United States
of America to pony up this kind of nonsense
to Senators on a committee of the congress of the
United States of America indicates a
virtual certainty that the liability known
as Alberto Gonzales will soon be gone -
either by forced resignation or by
indictment of perjury. Little boy Bush
will wait until the last possible moment,
even though many Republicans
abhor Gonzales and probably want
him out more than the demos,
but there is no way out for him
on this, just as with Rumsfield.
Last but not least, THE SMIRK IS FINALLY
GONE FROM GONZALES' FACE - A SURE
SIGN THAT HE KNOWS HE IS IN TROUBLE.
Citizen Jimserac
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzo Digs a Deeper Hole |
25 Jul 2007 09:34:51 AM |
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"Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185368604.623381.39680@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 25, 6:38 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From TIME Magazine,
7/24/07:http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1646714,00.html
Gonzales Digs a Deeper Hole
There is NO hope for Gonzales.
I watched some of the hearings on CSPAN and was
astonished at several exchanges but the most
memorable one was the bit when he admitted
that he had "misspoke" at a news conference
but he said that he "clarified" the error
with a reporter a couple of days later.
When pressed on this, he admitted that it
was not he himself but one of his aides (!!!)
that did the clarification and when
pressed more, he admitted
that he did NOT KNOW WHAT THAT
CLARIFICATION WAS (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
For the Attorney General of the United States
of America to pony up this kind of nonsense
to Senators on a committee of the congress of the
United States of America indicates a
virtual certainty that the liability known
as Alberto Gonzales will soon be gone -
either by forced resignation or by
indictment of perjury. Little boy Bush
will wait until the last possible moment,
even though many Republicans
abhor Gonzales and probably want
him out more than the demos,
but there is no way out for him
on this, just as with Rumsfield.
Last but not least, THE SMIRK IS FINALLY
GONE FROM GONZALES' FACE - A SURE
SIGN THAT HE KNOWS HE IS IN TROUBLE.
Citizen Jimserac
I wish that someone would give him a pair of balls to wear so that his
voice would drop a couple of octaves into a range that is normal for a
male human.
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| User: "FACE" |
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26 Jul 2007 07:12:28 AM |
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:34:51 -0700, in alt.politics.republicans "Lamont
Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com>, wrote
Last but not least, THE SMIRK IS FINALLY
GONE FROM GONZALES' FACE - A SURE
SIGN THAT HE KNOWS HE IS IN TROUBLE.
Citizen Jimserac
I wish that someone would give him a pair of balls to wear so that his
voice would drop a couple of octaves into a range that is normal for a
male human.
Maybe he could talk to hitlary, I hear that she has 4.
FACE
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