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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 07 May 2005 02:58:04 PM
Object: GOP alleged sex maniac mayor is former Republican state Senate majority leader
From The Seattle Times, 5/7/05:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002266631_west07m.html
Spokane Mayor West's public and private lives contrast
By Jonathan Martin
Seattle Times staff reporter
SPOKANE --
During his 18 months in office, Spokane Mayor Jim West has summarized
his campaign to restore civility and professionalism to the fractious
politics of City Hall with a catchphrase:
"Dare to be dull."
This week, as a sex scandal tore through this city's political
structure, West added a new quote:
"I have always considered a person's private life private."
West's admission this week that he frequented a gay Web site and had
"relations with adult men" appears at odds with his 25-year political
career.
A lifelong Republican and former state Senate majority leader, West
was best known in Olympia as a fiscal conservative.
He rarely led on social issues.
Still, he opposed extending protected-class status to gays during his
two decades in the state Legislature, and last week threatened to veto
a city ordinance giving benefits to the gay partners of city
employees.
In 1986, he supported legislation barring gays and lesbians from
working in schools and day-care centers.
At the time, he was actively involved in the Boy Scouts.
"He acknowledged he compartmentalized, building a wall between his
public and private selves," said Blaine Garvin, a political-science
professor at Gonzaga University in Spokane.
"When you do that, you're not being honest with yourself. I think it's
appropriately called hypocrisy."
State Rep. Bob McCaslin , a Spokane Valley Republican who served with
West, disagrees.
"If you talk about [gay] rights, and his philosophy, I don't see any
hypocrisy," he said.
"I'm sure some people will, if in fact he's gay."
West told The Spokesman-Review newspaper that his opposition to
gay-rights legislation doesn't mean he supports discrimination.
"I have never been outspoken against gays, I have never discriminated
against gays," he said.
"It's dicey to vote for those bills I consider an extension of a
benefit that didn't exist, need to exist."

West also vigorously denied more serious allegations published in The
Spokesman-Review that he molested two young boys in the 1970s.
He was a Spokane County sheriff's deputy and Boy Scout volunteer at
the time.
He called those accusations "flat lies."
The newspaper also reported that West offered a City Hall internship
to someone he believed was an 18-year-old high-school student whom he
contacted through the gay Web site.
The "teenager" in fact was a computer expert posing as a student and
hired by The Spokesman-Review to confirm that West used the site.
West declined to talk about the scandal yesterday.
He tried to go about his normal business, ignoring questions from a
scrum of reporters at a morning appearance in support of Spokane's
sister-city program.
"It's a great day," he said during the appearance.
"Of course, every day is a great day."
The contrast between West's political stands on gay-rights issues and
his now-public sexual orientation has begun grating on residents of
the state's second-largest city.
Dan Mitchinson, news director for Spokane's conservative talk-radio
station KGA, said West's string of accomplishments had gained him
fans.
But his station has been flooded with criticism from listeners, he
said.
"This is a person who you thought you knew from this legislative stuff
and the campaign trail, but then he does an about-face," Mitchinson
said.
Political leaders and citizens yesterday appeared split on whether
West could survive the scandal.
The Spokane County Elections Office said it had received an inquiry
yesterday about the recall process, and City Council member Cherie
Rodgers called on him to resign.
The last openly gay person to run for a citywide office, Dean Lynch,
lost by 49 votes out of 16,200 cast.
Tom Rasmussen, Seattle's first openly gay councilman, said that living
in the closet can result in a "tortured life."
"The irony is that it's because of policies he and others have
advocated that people lead tormented and tragic lives," Rasmussen
said.
"I think disclosure by a person is up to them as individuals. But I
can't accept the integrity of a person who is gay and actually
advocates for discrimination against people who are gay."
In a debate during his failed run for mayor of Spokane in 2000, West
said that "people still disagree if it [homosexuality] is a learned
behavior or one you're born with."
Three years later, he said he opposed extending protections for gays
and lesbians as bad for business.
Rick Forcier, executive director of the Christian Coalition of
Washington, said it's not uncommon for people to live one life in
public and another in private.
"Here's a man who knows right from wrong. Evidently, his flesh has
been in control of his spirit," Forcier said.
_________________________________________________
Strange how much the Religious Reich will explain away when they're
discussing a republican, eh?
Harry
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User: "CHOICES-2-MAKE"

Title: Re: GOP alleged sex maniac mayor is former Republican state Senate majority leader 07 May 2005 03:05:25 PM
"...There was concern that people
around the bin Laden compound would
be killed...." ABC NEWS
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User: "Peter Principle petesfeats@CUT IT OUThotmail.com"

Title: Re: GOP alleged sex maniac mayor is former Republican state Senate majority leader 07 May 2005 03:14:38 PM
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CHOICES-2-MAKE wrote:

"...There was concern that people
around the bin Laden compound would
be killed...." ABC NEWS

And what, exactly, is it, you stupid *****, that you believe your moronic
nutball fantasy fart has to do with the mayor of Seattle? Or are you too
fucking stupid to READ, too? Or are you one of those incredible ignoramuses
that think snipping something somehow makes it go away?
Here, ***** for brains, allow me. Perhaps you can find some friendly 4th
grader to read it for you and explain it to your stupid fat *****...
From The Seattle Times, 5/7/05:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002266631_west07m.html
Spokane Mayor West's public and private lives contrast
By Jonathan Martin
Seattle Times staff reporter
SPOKANE --
During his 18 months in office, Spokane Mayor Jim West has summarized
his campaign to restore civility and professionalism to the fractious
politics of City Hall with a catchphrase:
"Dare to be dull."
This week, as a sex scandal tore through this city's political
structure, West added a new quote:
"I have always considered a person's private life private."
West's admission this week that he frequented a gay Web site and had
"relations with adult men" appears at odds with his 25-year political
career.
A lifelong Republican and former state Senate majority leader, West
was best known in Olympia as a fiscal conservative.
He rarely led on social issues.
Still, he opposed extending protected-class status to gays during his
two decades in the state Legislature, and last week threatened to veto
a city ordinance giving benefits to the gay partners of city
employees.
In 1986, he supported legislation barring gays and lesbians from
working in schools and day-care centers.
At the time, he was actively involved in the Boy Scouts.
"He acknowledged he compartmentalized, building a wall between his
public and private selves," said Blaine Garvin, a political-science
professor at Gonzaga University in Spokane.
"When you do that, you're not being honest with yourself. I think it's
appropriately called hypocrisy."
State Rep. Bob McCaslin , a Spokane Valley Republican who served with
West, disagrees.
"If you talk about [gay] rights, and his philosophy, I don't see any
hypocrisy," he said.
"I'm sure some people will, if in fact he's gay."
West told The Spokesman-Review newspaper that his opposition to
gay-rights legislation doesn't mean he supports discrimination.
"I have never been outspoken against gays, I have never discriminated
against gays," he said.
"It's dicey to vote for those bills I consider an extension of a
benefit that didn't exist, need to exist."
West also vigorously denied more serious allegations published in The
Spokesman-Review that he molested two young boys in the 1970s.
He was a Spokane County sheriff's deputy and Boy Scout volunteer at
the time.
He called those accusations "flat lies."
The newspaper also reported that West offered a City Hall internship
to someone he believed was an 18-year-old high-school student whom he
contacted through the gay Web site.
The "teenager" in fact was a computer expert posing as a student and
hired by The Spokesman-Review to confirm that West used the site.
West declined to talk about the scandal yesterday.
He tried to go about his normal business, ignoring questions from a
scrum of reporters at a morning appearance in support of Spokane's
sister-city program.
"It's a great day," he said during the appearance.
"Of course, every day is a great day."
The contrast between West's political stands on gay-rights issues and
his now-public sexual orientation has begun grating on residents of
the state's second-largest city.
Dan Mitchinson, news director for Spokane's conservative talk-radio
station KGA, said West's string of accomplishments had gained him
fans.
But his station has been flooded with criticism from listeners, he
said.
"This is a person who you thought you knew from this legislative stuff
and the campaign trail, but then he does an about-face," Mitchinson
said.
Political leaders and citizens yesterday appeared split on whether
West could survive the scandal.
The Spokane County Elections Office said it had received an inquiry
yesterday about the recall process, and City Council member Cherie
Rodgers called on him to resign.
The last openly gay person to run for a citywide office, Dean Lynch,
lost by 49 votes out of 16,200 cast.
Tom Rasmussen, Seattle's first openly gay councilman, said that living
in the closet can result in a "tortured life."
"The irony is that it's because of policies he and others have
advocated that people lead tormented and tragic lives," Rasmussen
said.
"I think disclosure by a person is up to them as individuals. But I
can't accept the integrity of a person who is gay and actually
advocates for discrimination against people who are gay."
In a debate during his failed run for mayor of Spokane in 2000, West
said that "people still disagree if it [homosexuality] is a learned
behavior or one you're born with."
Three years later, he said he opposed extending protections for gays
and lesbians as bad for business.
Rick Forcier, executive director of the Christian Coalition of
Washington, said it's not uncommon for people to live one life in
public and another in private.
"Here's a man who knows right from wrong. Evidently, his flesh has
been in control of his spirit," Forcier said.
Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit. Slow thinkers keep right.
------
Why are the conservadolts not smart enough to know they aren't smart enough?
http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware.html
© 1999 by the American Psychological Association
For personal use only--not for distribution
December 1999 Vol. 77, No. 6, 1121-1134
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own
Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning
Department of Psychology
Cornell University
ABSTRACT:
....the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on
tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test
performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th
percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.
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