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"Harry Hope" |
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23 Jul 2006 11:51:38 AM |
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GOP senator on global warming: Everybody else is wrong and he's right |
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/
July 21, 2006
Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science--Confirms
This Thing Is A Hoax’
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global
warming science, claiming that Gore was "full of crap" on global
warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show and CNN television program,
Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans,
used "one scientist."
Inhofe added: "[A]ll of the recent science--it confirms that I was
right on this thing. This thing is a hoax."
Actually, "all of the recent science" -- without exception -- accepts
that global warming is real and caused by humans.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/26/wsj-gore/
The IPCC didn’t involve "one scientist."
It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including
so-called "climate skeptics" and industry representatives.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/the-ipcc-assessment-process.html
The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study
singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael
Mann, "has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence."
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/36111.php
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe
In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more
money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas
senator John Cornyn.
The contributions Inhofe has received from the energy and natural
resource sector since taking office have exceeded one million dollars
Harry
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24 Jul 2006 09:15:26 AM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/
July 21, 2006
Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent Science--Confirms
This Thing Is A Hoax’
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global
warming science, claiming that Gore was "full of crap" on global
warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show and CNN television program,
Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans,
used "one scientist."
Inhofe added: "[A]ll of the recent science--it confirms that I was
right on this thing. This thing is a hoax."
Actually, "all of the recent science" -- without exception -- accepts
that global warming is real and caused by humans.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/26/wsj-gore/
The IPCC didn’t involve "one scientist."
It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including
so-called "climate skeptics" and industry representatives.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/the-ipcc-assessment-process.html
The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study
singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael
Mann, "has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence."
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/36111.php
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe
In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more
money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas
senator John Cornyn.
The contributions Inhofe has received from the energy and natural
resource sector since taking office have exceeded one million dollars
Harry
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently. Here's the BBC's take on the controversy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4349133.stm
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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| User: "JustLooking" |
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24 Jul 2006 09:34:43 AM |
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Anyone who spends more than 1 second on Inhofe's ***** is either totally
uninformed regarding the size of his brain or totally idiot
"Bama Brian" <bamaNOTbrian@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:2C4xg.4202$157.703@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Harry Hope wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/
July 21, 2006 Sen. Inhofe: ‘Gore Is Full of Crap,’ ‘All Recent
Science--Confirms
This Thing Is A Hoax’ Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al
Gore and global
warming science, claiming that Gore was "full of crap" on global
warming. Appearing on Glenn Beck’s radio show and CNN television program,
Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans,
used "one scientist." Inhofe added: "[A]ll of the recent science--it
confirms that I was
right on this thing. This thing is a hoax." Actually, "all of the recent
science" -- without exception -- accepts
that global warming is real and caused by humans.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/26/wsj-gore/
The IPCC didn’t involve "one scientist." It involved thousands of
scientists from over 120 countries, including
so-called "climate skeptics" and industry representatives.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/the-ipcc-assessment-process.html
The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study
singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael
Mann, "has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence."
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/36111.php
___________________________________________________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe
In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more
money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas
senator John Cornyn. The contributions Inhofe has received from the
energy and natural
resource sector since taking office have exceeded one million dollars
Harry
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently. Here's the BBC's take on the controversy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4349133.stm
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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24 Jul 2006 09:52:29 AM |
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JustLooking wrote:
Anyone who spends more than 1 second on Inhofe's ***** is either totally
uninformed regarding the size of his brain or totally idiot
Hey, he's from Texas, that's the best they can do down there.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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02 Aug 2006 03:20:01 PM |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
JustLooking wrote:
Anyone who spends more than 1 second on Inhofe's ***** is either totally
uninformed regarding the size of his brain or totally idiot
Hey, he's from Texas, that's the best they can do down there.
He's from Oklahoma.
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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02 Aug 2006 04:57:20 PM |
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wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
JustLooking wrote:
Anyone who spends more than 1 second on Inhofe's ***** is either totally
uninformed regarding the size of his brain or totally idiot
Hey, he's from Texas, that's the best they can do down there.
He's from Oklahoma.
OK, I stand corrected, he's from Dumbfuckistan.
I had to do a little research to find that out.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=150
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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24 Jul 2006 09:53:29 AM |
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Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can see
how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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| User: "wrab" |
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24 Jul 2006 11:08:30 AM |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can see
how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Yes. Senator Imhofe is not alone. Mr. Bush and his administration have
been telling us for years that "global warming" is just junk science.
Just now it's no more than Al Gore's latest fundraising gimmick. He's
trying to get himself back into the public limelight with his scare
tactic. If there were anything to "global warming," Mr. Bush would have
recognized it and fought it long ago, just as he did at the first sign
of Katrina last year.
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| User: "Kevin Cunningham" |
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24 Jul 2006 03:55:10 PM |
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"wrab" <wrab@usa.com> wrote in message
news:1153757310.346335.150080@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can see
how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Yes. Senator Imhofe is not alone. Mr. Bush and his administration have
been telling us for years that "global warming" is just junk science.
Just now it's no more than Al Gore's latest fundraising gimmick. He's
trying to get himself back into the public limelight with his scare
tactic. If there were anything to "global warming," Mr. Bush would have
recognized it and fought it long ago, just as he did at the first sign
of Katrina last year.
What junk science? Over 900 pro global warming papers printed in peer
review journals to 0. Lets see, who wins, the 900 or the 0. I bet the 900
wins, idiot.
Come on, coward, were's the papers to show your side? Put 'em on the table,
chicken boy. Oh, there are none.
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| User: "Paul Revere" |
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24 Jul 2006 01:21:19 PM |
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The War on Warming. Now that is one I am waiting for.
peace
Paul Revere
"wrab" <wrab@usa.com> wrote in message
news:1153757310.346335.150080@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
: Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
: > Bama Brian wrote:
: >
: > > I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to
IPCC's reliance on the
: > > "hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann.
This graph has been
: > > discredited recently.
: >
: > Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb
anti-science *****, I can see
: > how you might think that.
: >
: > http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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:
: Yes. Senator Imhofe is not alone. Mr. Bush and his
administration have
: been telling us for years that "global warming" is
just junk science.
: Just now it's no more than Al Gore's latest
fundraising gimmick. He's
: trying to get himself back into the public limelight
with his scare
: tactic. If there were anything to "global warming,"
Mr. Bush would have
: recognized it and fought it long ago, just as he did
at the first sign
: of Katrina last year.
:
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24 Jul 2006 02:22:04 PM |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can see
how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Hey Tommy Lee! Do you still believe in UFO's? I see you've removed
them from your website?
Jeers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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24 Jul 2006 02:34:09 PM |
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Bama Brian wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can see
how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Hey Tommy Lee! Do you still believe in UFO's? I see you've removed
them from your website?
Well let's see, hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy, hundreds of
billions of galaxies, almost all the stars we've looked at close enough
to detect planets actually have planets, thus trillions upon trillions
of planets, and in 100 years humanity has gone from shooting it out at
the OK Corral with six shooters, to shooting it out in the Middle East
with rockets, so, yes, I guess I must admit that the evidence still
strongly suggests that the universe is filled with life, and a simple
extrapolation of our technological advancement strongly indicates that
the Earth is occasionally being visited by some advanced lifeforms.
Not that they would care too much about a bunch of idiot apes, though,
but they must be intensely worried about our effect on other lifeforms.
Clear enough mammy boy? Oh, I forget, you aren't into the science thing.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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25 Jul 2006 12:43:20 PM |
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
Bama Brian wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on
the "hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has
been discredited recently.
Well, since you are a butt fucking dumb anti-science *****, I can
see how you might think that.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Hey Tommy Lee! Do you still believe in UFO's? I see you've removed
them from your website?
Well let's see, hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy, hundreds of
billions of galaxies, almost all the stars we've looked at close enough
to detect planets actually have planets, thus trillions upon trillions
of planets, and in 100 years humanity has gone from shooting it out at
the OK Corral with six shooters, to shooting it out in the Middle East
with rockets, so, yes, I guess I must admit that the evidence still
strongly suggests that the universe is filled with life, and a simple
extrapolation of our technological advancement strongly indicates that
the Earth is occasionally being visited by some advanced lifeforms.
Not that they would care too much about a bunch of idiot apes, though,
but they must be intensely worried about our effect on other lifeforms.
Clear enough mammy boy? Oh, I forget, you aren't into the science thing.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
Do let us know all about your latest trip to Alpha Centauri, Tommy Lee.
Did the Gray's anal probe of your anatomy find that you have a brain -
or just a facsimile thereof? Did you enjoy the exam?
BTW, just what is your plan to control or limit GW? I don't believe
you've ever said, except to vilify anyone who doesn't believe as you do.
That's apparent even from your web site.
Jeers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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25 Jul 2006 12:59:40 PM |
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gore IS full of crap and so are most of you...global warming IS a
hoax...but you -- so well trained and smug --do not even look up in the
air and you have been mk'd by zions schools so that you cannot even
recognize the quantum aspects of the science being used to kill you!
hah!...normal contrails, oh my dear that is rich....you will get what
you deserve, trouble is, so will we...
ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION EXPERIMENTS INCORPORATING MASS HUMAN
SUBJECTS
2000-2006
ENMOD is the attempt to alter your environment so that you are more
amenable
to a takeover by a Foreign Power. This Foreign Power has sometimes
been
called the New World Order and it is composed of secret societies and
religious sects whose ideals are many times at odds with true American
ideals, as outlined in our Constitution.
This ENMOD technology was unleashed FULL force on Americans right after
911;
in fact many believe 911 to have been a diversion to allow the New
World
Orders technology to be used against Americans directly, dissidents in
particular.
We have pictures of early testing of this chemtrail technology, going
all
the way back to buchenwald prison camp in nazi germany, but the
technology
as it exists now was deployed without restriction as top secret
SECURITY
technology right after 911, and like the income tax, it is not going
away
unless we make it go away. And like all this foreign governments
ideals, it
is not good for you.
A lot of this NWO technology is Time Domain Corporation surveillance
technology, and a lot of it is weather modification technology. A lot
of it
is direct behaviour control by inundating you and your food and water
and
air with conductive particulates so you now respond to the various
energies
better. This NWO technology, stolen from the American Taxpayers over
many
decades time, and carefully hidden for private uses, is energy and
radiation
technology. By looking at the plants a little more closely,
particularly
out here in the west, you can easily see the results of this technology
in
the radiation damage it is doing to the plant life here. The radiation
effects on human tissue were well known by many, and recorded for
history,
until destroyed during another false flag terror operation which
conveniently removed the Gulf War One Medical Records, stored at the
Murrah
Building in Oklahoma City prior to its destruction.
The energies being harnessed and perpetuated as ENMOD are High Power
Broadcast, via antennae, as well as Macro-solar, and also Tectonic.
The
tech is many tiered and is very involved, convoluted, and expensive. A
lot
of this energy tech is now augmented with biotechnology, spread in the
same
manner as the so-called beneficial particulate sprays for ENMOD.
Some of the technology being used, hoarded for this day, originated
with
Nikola Tesla. Some from Stubblefield. Some comes from various other
sources, none well known.
This book is just a primer, and some back-up info concerning patents
and
such, so that you can see ENMOD and all its aspects has been taken
very
seriously, by many, for a long time. This publication is less than 10%
of
the printed information I posess, and the photographic evidences of all
this
are voluminous to say the least. I traveled from October 2001 to May
2004
documenting the operations across the entire United States. Visit
http://www.luxefaire.com/enmod/index.html
At the bottom of that page are ftp download addresses for over 1000
pictures
of ENMOD Operations across the USA, 2001 to 2004. Also visit
www.chemtrailcentral.com. I post there regularly (some of my best pix
are
there in the archives) and many others do also.
You should take it very seriously that you are a human test subject as
you
read this book. Because thats exactly what you are. This
administration
and its root organizations is well known for taking liberties with the
peoples safety and well being, and in fact they consider us nothing but
experimental animals who must be continually hoodwinked into believing
anything but the truth.
b
Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be
tilted
United States Patent 5,041,834
Koert August 20, 1991
testing the tech in gulf war one, before deploying on the enemy
population
USA
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United States Patent 5,041,834
Koert August 20, 1991
Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be
tilted
Abstract
This invention relates to generation of a Artificial Ionospheric Mirror
(AIM), or a plasma layer in the atmosphere. The AIM is used like the
ionosphere to reflect RF energy over great distances. A tiltable AIM is
created by a heater antenna controlled in phase and frequency. The
heater
antenna phase shift scans a beam to paint a plasma layer. Frequency is
changed to refocus at continually higher altitudes to tilt the plasma
layer.
Inventors: Koert; Peter (Washington, DC)
Assignee: APTI, Inc. (Washington, DC)
Appl. No.: 524435
Filed: May 17, 1990
Current U.S. Class: 342/367; 342/372
Intern'l Class: H04B 007/00; H01Q 003/22
Field of Search: 342/367,353,371,372 455/64
1. Field of the Invention
This invention relates to generation of a Artificial Ionospheric Mirror
(AIM), or a plasma layer in the atmosphere. The AIM is used like the
ionosphere to reflect RF energy over great distances.
2. Description of the Related Art
In the past, the technique of using the ionosphere as a mirror to
reflect
radio waves, or RF energy, has given Ham Radio operators the ability to
send
transmissions over long distances. This technique has also provided
radar
systems the ability to look "over the horizon." Variations and
fluctuations
in the ionosphere, however, can render the effectiveness of such
communications uncertain. Thus, the desirability of creating
controllable
plasma layers in the atmosphere for communications purposes has been
recognized. See, for example, U.S. Pat. No. 4,686,605 issued to
Eastlund and
U.S. Pat. No. 4,712,155 issued to Eastlund et al.
Previous experiments directed toward creating plasma layers for
communications have suffered from the inability to control the
inclination
of the plasma layer so that signals could be transmitted and received
from
various ranges. In other words, while one could create a plasma layer
in the
atmosphere at a lower altitude than the ionosphere, point to point
communications would be limited in range based on the reflection angles
of
the transmitted and reflected signals.
SUMMARY AND OBJECTS OF THE INVENTION
In view of the limitations of the related art it is an object of this
invention to generate a plasma layer that could be angled or tilted
with
respect to the horizon in order to affect signal transmission range.
The present invention provides a system and method for generating a
plasma
layer at controlled altitudes and inclinations that acts as an
artificial
ionospheric mirror (AIM) to reflect RF signals. The AIM increases the
range
and predictability with which RF energy may be reflected off the AIM
for
communications purposes. More specifically, a tiltable AIM is created
by a
heater antenna controlled in phase and frequency. The heater antenna
phase
shift scans a beam to paint a plasma layer. The heater antenna
continually
refocuses at a higher altitudes by frequency shifting to tilt the
plasma
layer.
Claims
What is claimed is:
1. A method for generating an AIM, comprising the steps of:
(a) creating avalanche ionization in the atmosphere using a heater
antenna;
(b) refocusing said heater antenna to alter the altitude of said
avalanche
ionization by frequency shifting said heater antenna; and
(c) scanning said heater antenna to paint an avalanche ionization
layer.
2. A method for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 1 wherein said
heater
antenna is focused in the near field.
3. An apparatus for generating an AIM comprising:
(a) a phased array heater antenna which is focused at an altitude to
cause
an avalanche ionization area to be created in the atmosphere;
(b) means for controlling frequency of individual radiators of said
phased
array heater antenna to refocus said altitude of said avalanche
ionization
area; and
(c) means for controlling phase of the individual radiators to scan
said
phased array heater antenna.
4. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 3 wherein
said
phased array heater antenna is focused to cause said avalanche
ionization
area to be substantially a line.
5. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 4 wherein
said
means for controlling phase moves said line substantially at a constant
altitude and said means for controlling frequency moves said line to
different altitudes.
6. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 4 wherein
said
phased array heater antenna is a rectangular array and said line is
formed
parallel to a long dimension of said rectangular array.
7. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 3 wherein
said
phased array heater antenna is focused to cause said avalanche
ionization
area to be substantially a point.
8. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 7 wherein
said
means for controlling the phase moves said point substantially at the
same
altitude and said means for controlling frequency moves said point to
different altitudes.
9. An apparatus for generating an AIM as claimed in claim 3 wherein
said
phased array heater antenna is focused in the near field.
10. A method of generating an AIM comprising the steps of:
(a) focusing a phased array heater antenna at an altitude to cause an
avalanche ionization area to be created in the atmosphere;
(b) controlling the frequency of individual radiators of said phased
array
heater antenna to refocus said altitude of said avalanche ionization
area;
(c) controlling phase of the individual radiators to scan said phased
array
heater antenna.
11. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 10 wherein said
step
of focusing causes said avalanche ionization are to be substantially a
line.
12. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 11 wherein said
step
of controlling phase moves said line substantially at a constant
altitude
and said step of controlling frequency moves said line to different
altitudes.
13. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 11 wherein said
phased
array heater antenna is a rectangular array and said line is formed
parallel
to a long dimension of said rectangular array.
14. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 10 wherein said
step
of focusing causes said avalanche ionization area to be substantially a
point.
15. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 14 wherein said
step
of controlling phase moves said point substantially at the same
altitude and
said step of controlling frequency moves said point to different
altitudes.
16. A method of generating an AIM as claimed in claim 10 wherein said
step
of focusing is performed in the near field.
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| User: "Lone Ranger" |
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:15:26 GMT, Bama Brian
<bamaNOTbrian@earthlink.com> wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently. Here's the BBC's take on the controversy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4349133.stm
Discredited recently? I don't think so. You should read the BBC
article one more time. It doesn't say anything about the "hockey
stick" graph being discredited.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/06/22/global.warming.ap/
The National Academy of Sciences, reaching that conclusion in a broad
review of scientific work requested by Congress, reported Thursday
that the "recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400
years and potentially the last several millennia."
A panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is
running a fever and that "human activities are responsible for much of
the recent warming." Their 155-page report said average global surface
temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the
20th century.
Climate scientists Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes
had concluded the Northern Hemisphere was the warmest it has been in
2,000 years. Their research was known as the "hockey-stick" graphic
because it compared the sharp curve of the hockey blade to the recent
uptick in temperatures and the stick's long shaft to centuries of
previous climate stability.
The National Academy scientists concluded that the Mann-Bradley-Hughes
research from the late 1990s was "likely" to be true, said John "Mike"
Wallace, an atmospheric sciences professor at the University of
Washington and a panel member. The conclusions from the '90s research
"are very close to being right" and are supported by even more recent
data, Wallace said.
....
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/06/national-academies-synthesis-report#comment-14958
Stephen McIntyre told BBC News that he felt the report had upheld
"virtually all of our technical criticisms of MBH [Mann et al] and did
not reject or refute any direct points that we made."
What did those technical criticisms amount to, in terms of altering
the key findings of proxy reconstructions of past climate? Not much.
The NAS commission backs the key findings of the original study. The
report says it has very high confidence that the last few decades of
the 20th Century were warmer than any comparable period in the last
400 years, and "plausibly" in the last 1,000 years. The "alarming"
part of the hockey stick graph, the sharp upward spike in the late
20th century compared to the last 4 centuries, is vindicated with a
high degree of certainty.
McIntyre's technical criticisms of MBH 98 have provided cover for an
avalanche of irresponsible attacks on the credibility of climate
scientists themselves. Noisy complaints abound that the "hockey stick
is broken", MBH 98 is "rubbish", the hockey stick is "religion, not
science", or "politics, not science", a "scientific fraud", or merely
"alarmist scare tactics" by wild-eyed fanatics bent on extorting
lucrative grant funding from government bureaucracies.
The idea is widespread that attacking the credibility of this graph
undermines the scientific foundation of the AGW theory. This report
repudiates, once again, this flawed reasoning. But in the minds of the
public the hockey stick is about global warming, not arcane
statistical technicalities. The scientific credibility of human caused
global warming remains intact. The NAS report concludes that the
hockey stick graph is credible, legitimate science, not a scientific
fraud. That's why this report is widely seen as a vindication of
Mann's work, and McIntyre's criticisms are largely inconsequential.
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Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
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The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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"...supported by even more recent data, Wallace said...."
You mean a "global warming " acolyte is actually using data - not
harebrained computer models, newspaper editorials written by tyro journalism
school grads, or political arm waving creptations - but carefully acquired
and thoroughly analyzed data!!
Next thing you know he might even present a compelling case that"global
warming" does in fact exist and needs to be countered.
Until then ....
WDA
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"Lone Ranger" <snowball2002@bigfoot.com.spamalamadingdong> wrote in message
news:tdt1d2plm88g7ol5a3b4ugmfefkko3kql4@4ax.com...
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:15:26 GMT, Bama Brian
<bamaNOTbrian@earthlink.com> wrote:
I suspect that Senator Inhofe was referring to IPCC's reliance on the
"hockey stick" graph created by Michael Mann. This graph has been
discredited recently. Here's the BBC's take on the controversy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4349133.stm
Discredited recently? I don't think so. You should read the BBC
article one more time. It doesn't say anything about the "hockey
stick" graph being discredited.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/06/22/global.warming.ap/
The National Academy of Sciences, reaching that conclusion in a broad
review of scientific work requested by Congress, reported Thursday
that the "recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400
years and potentially the last several millennia."
A panel of top climate scientists told lawmakers that the Earth is
running a fever and that "human activities are responsible for much of
the recent warming." Their 155-page report said average global surface
temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere rose about 1 degree during the
20th century.
Climate scientists Michael Mann, Raymond Bradley and Malcolm Hughes
had concluded the Northern Hemisphere was the warmest it has been in
2,000 years. Their research was known as the "hockey-stick" graphic
because it compared the sharp curve of the hockey blade to the recent
uptick in temperatures and the stick's long shaft to centuries of
previous climate stability.
The National Academy scientists concluded that the Mann-Bradley-Hughes
research from the late 1990s was "likely" to be true, said John "Mike"
Wallace, an atmospheric sciences professor at the University of
Washington and a panel member. The conclusions from the '90s research
"are very close to being right" and are supported by even more recent
data, Wallace said.
...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/06/national-academies-synthesis-report#comment-14958
Stephen McIntyre told BBC News that he felt the report had upheld
"virtually all of our technical criticisms of MBH [Mann et al] and did
not reject or refute any direct points that we made."
What did those technical criticisms amount to, in terms of altering
the key findings of proxy reconstructions of past climate? Not much.
The NAS commission backs the key findings of the original study. The
report says it has very high confidence that the last few decades of
the 20th Century were warmer than any comparable period in the last
400 years, and "plausibly" in the last 1,000 years. The "alarming"
part of the hockey stick graph, the sharp upward spike in the late
20th century compared to the last 4 centuries, is vindicated with a
high degree of certainty.
McIntyre's technical criticisms of MBH 98 have provided cover for an
avalanche of irresponsible attacks on the credibility of climate
scientists themselves. Noisy complaints abound that the "hockey stick
is broken", MBH 98 is "rubbish", the hockey stick is "religion, not
science", or "politics, not science", a "scientific fraud", or merely
"alarmist scare tactics" by wild-eyed fanatics bent on extorting
lucrative grant funding from government bureaucracies.
The idea is widespread that attacking the credibility of this graph
undermines the scientific foundation of the AGW theory. This report
repudiates, once again, this flawed reasoning. But in the minds of the
public the hockey stick is about global warming, not arcane
statistical technicalities. The scientific credibility of human caused
global warming remains intact. The NAS report concludes that the
hockey stick graph is credible, legitimate science, not a scientific
fraud. That's why this report is widely seen as a vindication of
Mann's work, and McIntyre's criticisms are largely inconsequential.
--
Hi-Yo, Silver! Away!
--
The Curse of Tecumseh
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.htm
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03 Aug 2006 01:02:55 PM |
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W. D. Allen wrote:
"...supported by even more recent data, Wallace said...."
You mean a "global warming " acolyte is actually using data - not
harebrained computer models, newspaper editorials written by tyro journalism
school grads, or political arm waving creptations - but carefully acquired
and thoroughly analyzed data!!
Next thing you know he might even present a compelling case that"global
warming" does in fact exist and needs to be countered.
I'm all for it. If he can show irrefutable proof of the methodology of
the apparent anthropogenic acceleration of GW, then we can work on a
REALISTIC counter for it.
Look, GW is real. But so is Global Cooling. According to the timing of
the Ice Ages, we appear to be overdue in entering a new one. Let's be
real cautious of what fixes we apply.
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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23 Jul 2006 03:14:46 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/
July 21, 2006
Sen. Inhofe: 'Gore Is Full of Crap,' 'All Recent Science--Confirms
This Thing Is A Hoax'
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global
warming science, claiming that Gore was "full of crap" on global
warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck's radio show and CNN television program,
Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans,
used "one scientist."
Inhofe added: "[A]ll of the recent science--it confirms that I was
right on this thing. This thing is a hoax."
Has this guy started drinking kool-aid or what?
Actually, "all of the recent science" -- without exception -- accepts
that global warming is real and caused by humans.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/26/wsj-gore/
The IPCC didn't involve "one scientist."
It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including
so-called "climate skeptics" and industry representatives.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/the-ipcc-assessment-process.html
The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study
singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael
Mann, "has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence."
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/36111.php
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe
In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more
money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas
senator John Cornyn.
The contributions Inhofe has received from the energy and natural
resource sector since taking office have exceeded one million dollars
Well that sort of figures doesn't it?
What this country needs is some campaign reform in the worst way.
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<lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
news:1153685686.814008.74820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Harry Hope wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/21/inhofe-gore/
July 21, 2006
Sen. Inhofe: 'Gore Is Full of Crap,' 'All Recent Science--Confirms
This Thing Is A Hoax'
Yesterday, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) attacked Al Gore and global
warming science, claiming that Gore was "full of crap" on global
warming.
Appearing on Glenn Beck's radio show and CNN television program,
Inhofe said that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
which concluded that global warming was real and caused by humans,
used "one scientist."
Inhofe added: "[A]ll of the recent science--it confirms that I was
right on this thing. This thing is a hoax."
Has this guy started drinking kool-aid or what?
Actually, "all of the recent science" -- without exception -- accepts
that global warming is real and caused by humans.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/26/wsj-gore/
The IPCC didn't involve "one scientist."
It involved thousands of scientists from over 120 countries, including
so-called "climate skeptics" and industry representatives.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/the-ipcc-assessment-process.html
The National Academy of Sciences recently concluded that the one study
singled out by Inhofe for criticism, which was authored by Michael
Mann, "has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence."
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/36111.php
___________________________________________________________
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe
In the 2002 election cycle oil and gas companies contributed more
money to Inhofe's campaign than any other congressman except Texas
senator John Cornyn.
The contributions Inhofe has received from the energy and natural
resource sector since taking office have exceeded one million dollars
Well that sort of figures doesn't it?
What this country needs is some campaign reform in the worst way.
..
Inhofe is a screwball of the highest order. He regularly proposes
constitutional amendments to require prayer and bible-reading in schools.
He is the author or co-sponsor of another proposed amendment to declare the
bible to be the foundation of our nation.
He considers the biblical book of Genesis to be a scientific text.
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