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19 Jul 2003 05:50:28 PM |
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GOP's double standard on presidential lies |
From The Boston Globe, 7/19/03:
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/199/oped/GOP_s_double_standard_on_presidential_lies+.shtml
GOP's double standard on presidential lies
By Derrick Z. Jackson, 7/19/2003
AMERICAN SOLDIERS continue to die in Iraq, and the Republicans do not
want us to know why.
In a 51-45 vote, the Republican-led Senate this week rejected a
proposal for an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the
claims Bush used to justify his invasion of Iraq.
The senator who made the proposal, Democrat Jon Corzine of New Jersey,
said, ''Each day, we have failed to have an accounting ... of what
really happened.''
In the latest Pentagon count, 224 US soldiers have died in combat or
accidents in the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Soldiers are dying at a rate of one a day 77 days after President Bush
declared an end to major combat operations.
The number of soldiers who died in noncombat accidents after the
invasion has surpassed the number prior to it.
As the dying goes on, Bush has yet to prove the existence of Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction.
He now admits to using bad intelligence in his State of the Union
address that Saddam Hussein was trying to purchase uranium in Africa
for nuclear weapons.
Yet Ted Stevens of Alaska, the Republican chair of the Senate
Appropriations Committee, said:
''I'm tired of making a mountain out of a molehill. This is not
Watergate. It's not even truthgate.... This is an attempt to smear the
president of the United States.''
His complaint was but another in a round of Republican efforts to
resist a full inquiry and keep the stench rising from Bush's empty
claims behind the closed doors of congressional intelligence and armed
services committees.
Pat Roberts of Kansas, the Republican chair of the Senate Intelligence
Committee, said in June, ''I found, at least in the information that I
have as chairman, no evidence of manipulation.''
He blasted a formal investigation as being ''a pejorative that there's
something dreadfully wrong.''
Five years ago the Republicans found President Clinton's lying about
sex to be so dreadfully wrong that they voted to impeach him in the
House.
Clinton survived, but not before the Republicans hurled all kinds of
pejoratives at Clinton's perjuries.
Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida said:
''Lying under oath is an ancient crime of great weight because it
shields other offenses, because it blocks the light of truth in human
affairs. It is a dagger in the heart of our legal system and indeed in
our democracy. It cannot, it should not, it must not be tolerated....
All that stands between any of us and tyranny is law.''
Representative Sam Johnson of Texas said Clinton's actions ''have made
a mockery of the people who fought for this country and are fighting
for this nation today.''
Henry Hyde, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said:
''If the president calculatedly and repeatedly violates his oath, if
the president breaks the covenant of trust he has made with the
American people, he can no longer be trusted. And because the
executive plays so large a role in representing the country to the
world, America can no longer be trusted.''
Now it is a Republican president who increasingly appears to have lied
to the American people to justify a war.
There is hardly a peep out of Republicans over whether Bush has broken
the covenant of trust he made with Americans and made a mockery out of
the men and women who are dying in Iraq.
Troops and even some officers in the field are openly grumbling that
they no longer know why they are there.
Meanwhile Bush's claims continue to crumble.
A Washington Post story this week reported that United Nations weapons
inspectors found nothing to back up Bush's claims last October that
Saddam Hussein had a revamped nuclear arms program.
Yet on March 16, just three days before the war, Vice President *****
Cheney declared about Saddam, ''We believe he has, in fact,
reconstituted nuclear weapons.''
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Extreme hypocrisy seems to be a disease confined to the right-wing
psyche.
Harry
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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| Title: Re: GOP's double standard on presidential lies |
19 Jul 2003 07:10:21 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
From The Boston Globe, 7/19/03:
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/199/oped/GOP_s_double_standard_on_presidential_lies+.shtml
GOP's double standard on presidential lies
By Derrick Z. Jackson, 7/19/2003
AMERICAN SOLDIERS continue to die in Iraq, and the Republicans do not
want us to know why.
In a 51-45 vote, the Republican-led Senate this week rejected a
proposal for an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the
claims Bush used to justify his invasion of Iraq.
As usual Republinazis thwart the will of the people for their
own financial gain.
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| User: "Gogarty" |
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| Title: Re: GOP's double standard on presidential lies |
21 Jul 2003 02:13:44 PM |
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In article <eo6ohv8k8jqbp91i8h0e815kagc500m3au@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:50:28 -0400, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
The number of soldiers who died in noncombat accidents after the
invasion has surpassed the number prior to it.
What kind of noncombat accidents ? Are these soldiers dumb, lacking
training ?
One do have to worry. Haven't checked lately, but the nyumber of
"accidental" deaths was about equal to the number of combat deaths. Somehow,
this does not ring true. How many accidental deaths can you expect in a
population of 200,000 in four months? At the very least, they should stop
driving Hummers.
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| User: "harvest dancer" |
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| Title: Re: GOP's double standard on presidential lies |
25 Jul 2003 12:44:56 PM |
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Pieter Wenk <> wrote in message news:<39d2ivon0sc1dt24o5lp2a31gbg3s9t4m7@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:13:44 -0400, Gogarty <Gogarty@Dublin.edu>
wrote:
In article <eo6ohv8k8jqbp91i8h0e815kagc500m3au@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:50:28 -0400, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
The number of soldiers who died in noncombat accidents after the
invasion has surpassed the number prior to it.
What kind of noncombat accidents ? Are these soldiers dumb, lacking
training ?
One do have to worry. Haven't checked lately, but the nyumber of
"accidental" deaths was about equal to the number of combat deaths. Somehow,
this does not ring true. How many accidental deaths can you expect in a
population of 200,000 in four months? At the very least, they should stop
driving Hummers.
Are Hummers so badly constructed....
A friend of mine was in the initial Army testing group. The Hummer
was one of several vehicles being decided upon.
Every member of the group gave the Hummer the lowest rating out of all
the vehicles under test. It was chosen because it was the cheapest.
Jason
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| User: "Pieter Wenk" |
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30 Jul 2003 06:31:48 AM |
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On 25 Jul 2003 10:44:56 -0700, (harvest
dancer) wrote:
Pieter Wenk < > wrote in message news:<39d2ivon0sc1dt24o5lp2a31gbg3s9t4m7@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:13:44 -0400, Gogarty <Gogarty@Dublin.edu>
wrote:
In article <eo6ohv8k8jqbp91i8h0e815kagc500m3au@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:50:28 -0400, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
The number of soldiers who died in noncombat accidents after the
invasion has surpassed the number prior to it.
What kind of noncombat accidents ? Are these soldiers dumb, lacking
training ?
One do have to worry. Haven't checked lately, but the nyumber of
"accidental" deaths was about equal to the number of combat deaths. Somehow,
this does not ring true. How many accidental deaths can you expect in a
population of 200,000 in four months? At the very least, they should stop
driving Hummers.
Are Hummers so badly constructed....
A friend of mine was in the initial Army testing group. The Hummer
was one of several vehicles being decided upon.
Every member of the group gave the Hummer the lowest rating out of all
the vehicles under test. It was chosen because it was the cheapest.
Despite human lives driving these vehicles is now costing.
Regards
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Pieter Wenk /CH-1800 Vevey - Rivièra Vaudoise
These capitalists generally act harmoniously, and in concert, to fleece
the people.
--Abraham Lincoln, 1837
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| User: "T.Carr" |
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30 Jul 2003 08:22:01 PM |
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Pieter Wenk <> wrote in message news:<a3bfivc9snutm36g14o9ifhjfa4sg0d26u@4ax.com>...
On 25 Jul 2003 10:44:56 -0700, (harvest
dancer) wrote:
Pieter Wenk < > wrote in message news:<39d2ivon0sc1dt24o5lp2a31gbg3s9t4m7@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:13:44 -0400, Gogarty <Gogarty@Dublin.edu>
wrote:
In article <eo6ohv8k8jqbp91i8h0e815kagc500m3au@4ax.com>,
says...
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:50:28 -0400, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
The number of soldiers who died in noncombat accidents after the
invasion has surpassed the number prior to it.
What kind of noncombat accidents ? Are these soldiers dumb, lacking
training ?
One do have to worry. Haven't checked lately, but the nyumber of
"accidental" deaths was about equal to the number of combat deaths. Somehow,
this does not ring true. How many accidental deaths can you expect in a
population of 200,000 in four months? At the very least, they should stop
driving Hummers.
Are Hummers so badly constructed....
A friend of mine was in the initial Army testing group. The Hummer
was one of several vehicles being decided upon.
Every member of the group gave the Hummer the lowest rating out of all
the vehicles under test. It was chosen because it was the cheapest.
Pieter Wenk <
Despite human lives driving these vehicles is now costing.
How do these vehicles cost human lives?
T.Carr
Regards
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| User: "harvest dancer" |
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| Title: Re: GOP's double standard on presidential lies |
25 Jul 2003 12:46:28 PM |
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Yes. The republicans have a double standard. Bush's lies are ok,
Clinton's aren't.
Yes. The democrats have a double standard. Clinton's lies are ok,
Bush's aren't.
Gee, isn't it neat how that works out? Kettle, this is the pot
calling to tell you that you are black.
Jason
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| User: "Tempest" |
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25 Jul 2003 06:08:45 PM |
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harvest dancer wrote:
Yes. The republicans have a double standard. Bush's lies are ok,
Clinton's aren't.
Yes. The democrats have a double standard. Clinton's lies are ok,
Bush's aren't.
Clinton's lie was personal, Bush's lie gets people killed.
Gee, isn't it neat how that works out? Kettle, this is the pot
calling to tell you that you are black.
Jason
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"If the Lord can see his way clear to bless the Republican Party the way
it's been carrying on, then the rest of us ought to get it without even
asking."
- Will Rogers
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