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User: "bodhi"
Date: 27 Nov 2006 03:24:48 AM
Object: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?"
....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government.
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence
"Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" asked
little Timmy as he walked his Grandpa home from the store.
"Now hush, Timmy, you know we're not suppose to talk about such
things," Grandpa scowled looking over his shoulder, " Homeland Security
might be listening in on us.."
"But Grandpa.." Timmy whined, "The kids at school talk about it all the
time on the playground. They say Bush HAD to take over the country
because of the Islamo.....the Islamo....."
"Fascists, Timmy, Islamo-fascist. They were called Islamo-fascist."
"My friends all say it was necessary for the safety of the country."
Timmy said proudly, a big smile covering his tiny face.
Grandpa's slow walk became even slower, as if he was weighed down by a
great burden.
"Timmy, let's sit down over by that tree. Seeing how your school isn't
telling you the truth, I'll answer all your questions. I was there
Timmy....I was there when Bush took over the United States."
"Don't you mean the American Union, Grandpa?"
Grandpa sat heavily on the ground beneath a large elm tree. He let out
a heavy sigh and gave his grandson a long sad look.
"Timmy, what I'm about to tell you is something you're not suppose to
know. If I tell you, you have to promise not to tell anyone or you'll
get your Grandpa in trouble. Understood?"
"I understand Grandpa," Timmy spoke quietly. He settled down on
Grandpa's lap and looked up at his wrinkled, tired face.
Grandpa cleared his throat and took a furtive look around. The park was
empty.
"Timmy, Your teachers and friends have been lying to you. Bush created
a dictatorship by exploiting a national tragedy he himself had helped
create, by manipulating a wave of fear, and by fanning the flames of
racial and religious prejudice. He divided the world into two opposing
camps, Timmy, us and the "evil-doers" and declared that if you
disagreed with him, then you too were an "evil doer," Do you understand
what I'm saying to you, Timmy."
"I think so Grandpa, the teachers at school say the evil doers were the
reason Bush declared martian law."
"That's MARTIAL law, Timmy, and it occured when Bush faked a phoney
bird-flu epidemic and used it as an excuse to put us in concentration
camps..."
"Yeah", Timmy exclaimed, "Grandma told me all about how you lived in
Bunk Houses and couldn't go outside at night."
"That's right, Timmy, it was awful the three years your Grandma and I
had to live in the camps. Listen Timmy," Grandpa's voice got softer,
more urgent, "He suppressed dissent and declared himself above the law.
He declared that he could interpret even the rulings of the Supreme
Court ..... he could pick and choose which portions of laws he might
enforce and which portions he might ignore ..... he assumed the
additional powers of the judiciary and the legislature. He dared anyone
to stop him.... "Who cares
what you think?" he asked. He told us but we didn't listen ...."This
would be a whole lot easier if this was a dictatorship ...just has long
as I'm the dictator" .... If he, in fact, did not say "...stop throwing
the
Constitution up to me! The Constitution is just a goddamned piece of
paper", he might as well have. His attitude and his actions are most
certainly consistent with it. We tried to oppose him. We marched in the
streets, but the bird-flu epidemic had everyone scared and by then it
was too late to stop him. We tried leaving the country, your Grandma
and I, but we were caught and sent to the camps. I tried to get......."
Just then some men from Homeland Security approached the pair. Timmy
watched the men handcuffed his grandfather and take him towards a
waiting black van. They told Timmy that his Grandpa was very sick
because he took drugs when he was younger. They drove Timmy home and
even stopped for ice cream along the way. Timmy was happy that these
guys were going to take care of Grandpa. He was worried. Grandpa was
beginning to sound like an "evil-doer" and that scared Timmy a bit. But
he had pushed a special number on his cell phone that alerted the
authorities, just like his teacher had told him to do in case he met
any strange evil - doers. He was sad tht it had to be Grandpa. Who was
going to take him fishing down by the lake on Saturdays now.....
namaste;
bodhi
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 27 Nov 2006 08:32:52 AM
In article "bodhi" wrote:

....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government.
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence

Why shouldn't things be taken from you in the name of the Common Good?
Hillary. Hamas. HEZBOLLAH.
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Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 29 Nov 2006 09:46:39 PM
In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<exPresident@au.revoir.gov>
wrote
on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:32:52 GMT
<456aea50$0$21209$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

In article "bodhi" wrote:

....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government.
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence



Why shouldn't things be taken from you in the name of the Common Good?

Have we repealed Amendment 22 yet?


Hillary. Hamas. HEZBOLLAH.
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Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.

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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 29 Nov 2006 10:17:29 PM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:32:52 GMT

In article "bodhi" wrote:

....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government.
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence



Why shouldn't things be taken from you in the name of the Common Good?


Have we repealed Amendment 22 yet?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117942.jpg
Hillary hasn't repealled the Electoral College yet.
Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.
Hillary. Hamas. HEZBOLLAH.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117942.jpg
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 01:07:36 AM
In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<exPresident@au.revoir.gov>
wrote
on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:17:29 GMT
<456e4e97$0$689$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>:

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
on Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:32:52 GMT

In article "bodhi" wrote:

....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government.
-Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence



Why shouldn't things be taken from you in the name of the Common Good?


Have we repealed Amendment 22 yet?


http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117942.jpg
Hillary hasn't repealled the Electoral College yet.

Pelosi might start the process, if we're not very careful.
In any event, it's clear that, absent a repeal of Amendment
22, we might very well lose the most successful president
since Ronald Reagan -- if not the most successful president
ever.
Now that we have a Democratic House *and* Senate (albeit in
the latter case by a razor-thin margin) the only thing that
can save the Republic now is a declaration of martial law,
or electing perhaps Karl Rove to the exalted office in 2008
-- a possibility that apparently has yet to be explored.
(Admittedly, it's a bit early.)
And here's hoping the Republicans can get the economy
moving again, so that they can be reelected to the House
and Senate in a supermajority in 2008, together with a
placeholder President until we can find enough George
Bush-like leader, another Ronald Reagan, or another Newt
Gingrich. Great leaders all, all character assassinated
by Clinton (any one of the three [*]). Expect great
things in 2013 or so -- six years after we could have
had them by continuing Bush's Oval Office tenure.
Until then, filibustering in the Senate might contain
the worst of the damage, but there's no way in hell we
can pass necessary repeals such as no (total) taxes for
anyone making over $10M, elimination of SS, SSA, TANF, food
stamps, Medicare, and Medicaid, banning of all abortions,
and the general dismantling of the communist/socialist
superstructure that we enacted in the 1950's under the
misnomer The Great Society.
And of course we need to stay in Iraq indefinitely,
to contain the worst of the terrorism there and to
help the Iraqis get back on their feet, bring a stable
democratically-elected republic, and become a shining
bastion of democracy in the Middle East, shining even more
brightly than Israel does now -- a guiding light of hope
in a war-torn region.
After all, it took the US 11 years to actually *become*
the US, after we declared Independence in 1776; the initial
Constitution wasn't ratified until 1789. At least give
Iraq until about 2014 or thereabouts...



Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.

The new disorder, you mean. The old order was working fine, thank you.


Hillary. Hamas. HEZBOLLAH.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117942.jpg
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.

[*] Roger Clinton made occasional forays on Comedy Central for a time,
during Bill Clinton's tenure.
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 08:57:45 AM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.


The new disorder, you mean. The old order was working fine, thank you.

Even as Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda even after their own
self-professed recruitment videos to the contrary, so to will LIBs
deny the existance of a World with cities ablaze and bodies
littering the streets as their vision of a future worth having.
LIBs will vote HILLARY and like it.
Hillary. Hamas. HEZBOLLAH.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117942.jpg
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 09:48:28 AM
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.


The new disorder, you mean. The old order was working fine, thank you.


Even as Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda even after their own
self-professed recruitment videos to the contrary,

Please supply proof that "Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda". If you
cannot supply such proof please admit you are a liar.
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 06:59:35 PM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.


The new disorder, you mean. The old order was working fine, thank you.


Even as Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda even after their own
self-professed recruitment videos to the contrary,


Please supply proof that "Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda". If you
cannot supply such proof please admit you are a liar.

LIBs follow a leadership that is NOT JUST mistaken, but Evil;
Pelosi remains 'sad' that the Guilty were NOT rewarded
because we have killed and captured over 7000
Al-Qaeda operatives including Al Zarqawi....
Will YOU acknowledge that?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html
Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation
House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.
"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi told reporters....
And that's not the only thing that is well-known about Pelosi....
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 07:59:47 PM
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

Meanwhile LIBs like Pelosi would deny even the the very existance
of nazi's in Hitler's Germany, how brightly those fires will burn.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/103582.jpg
Under New Management:: The new order begins.


The new disorder, you mean. The old order was working fine, thank you.


Even as Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda even after their own
self-professed recruitment videos to the contrary,


Please supply proof that "Pelosi denies the existance of AlQaeda". If you
cannot supply such proof please admit you are a liar.


LIBs follow a leadership that is NOT JUST mistaken, but Evil;
Pelosi remains 'sad' that the Guilty were NOT rewarded
because we have killed and captured over 7000
Al-Qaeda operatives including Al Zarqawi....
Will YOU acknowledge that?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html
Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi told reporters....

So you admit that Pelosi never denied the existance of AlQaeda - which
proves you are a liar. Now read the entire Pelosi statement and get back
to us - I am friggin tired of you liars taking things out of context.
Luckily, so are the majority of Americans, which is why your right wing
games failed this last election, and why you will continue to lose
elections.
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 30 Nov 2006 08:05:46 PM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html
Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi

told reporters....


So you admit that Pelosi never denied the existance of AlQaeda -

Pelosi denies the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgency...
Who do YOU think Zarqawi fronted for?
Pelosi, not JUST mistaken. Evil.
LIB reading comprehension strikes again!
No wonder LIBs keep losing out to BOOOSH...
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LIBS, what price their vision?
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 07:07:15 AM
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html
Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi

told reporters....


So you admit that Pelosi never denied the existance of AlQaeda -


Pelosi denies the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgency...

So now you are changing the goal posts? Can't blame you as you
were caught in a baldfaced lie. Nonetheless that is also NOT what
she said. She blames bush for the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgenc as
they had no powerbase in iraq until bush's little excursion.

Who do YOU think Zarqawi fronted for?
Pelosi, not JUST mistaken. Evil.

And you are simply a liar, twice you have lied in this thread - and I have
called you on these lies. Why should we care if a liar thinks Pelosi is
evil?

LIB reading comprehension strikes again!
No wonder LIBs keep losing out to BOOOSH...

Forgot the last election already?
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 08:26:41 AM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html

Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi

told reporters....

Nonetheless that is also NOT what
she said. She blames bush for the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgenc as
they had no powerbase in iraq until bush's little excursion.

Answer the simple question: [in her tense]
Does Pelosi NOT say that al Qaeda is not responsible for Insurgent violence,
even though we know Zaraqawi [and now] his successor is hard at work?
The answer is an unequivocal YES, and even worse she wants you to believe that the 'solution'
is the modern day equivalent of WW]['s Dunkirk despite, and perhaps because-of, the obvious consequence.
LIBs are NOT just mistaken, they are Evil.
Following in the grand tradition of their patriarch, Bill Clinton, who factually:
1. Granted Clemency to convicted terrorists who murdered American Citizens.
2. Vandalized the White House.
3. Dared us to stop him.
4. Trusted our Adversaries so much he sent them Nuclear Blueprints.
5. Find it SO INTOLERABLE to trust your child with M&M's and Soda in school
that he had them banned, even though he is no longer in office.
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 08:48:53 AM
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html

Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi

told reporters....


Nonetheless that is also NOT what
she said. She blames bush for the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgenc as
they had no powerbase in iraq until bush's little excursion.


Answer the simple question: [in her tense]
Does Pelosi NOT say that al Qaeda is not responsible for Insurgent violence,
even though we know Zaraqawi [and now] his successor is hard at work?

This is what Pelosi said:
Today was an opportunity for the President to be candid with the
American people about the status of democracy in Iraq, and when he
will bring our troops home. Instead, the President offered little more
than empty rhetoric, claiming that Iraq is the central front in the
war on terror a position that is simply not supported by the facts.
The President went into Iraq under a false premise, without a plan,
and has totally mismanaged our involvement. Now he is trying to
justify his actions with a series of excuses.
Democrats are committed to fighting and winning the war on terror.
But the Iraq war has made us less safe, and led to squandered
opportunities to fight global terror because of the allocation of
resources in Iraq.
BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda? They are
two different animals. Al queada may be helping some insurgent groups,
but the reason the insurgent groups exist in the first place is because of
bush's little adventure. There was scant al quaeda activity in iraq
before the invasion. bush created the insurgency and therefore the al
quaeda hotspot by not completing the mission in afghanastan. bin laden
must love bush after tora bora.
Now quit your lying, and quit your taking things out of context simply to
give bush an excuse for failure. bush doesnt need an excuse for failure -
he already failed.
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 11:52:54 PM
In alt.conspiracy, eldorado
<eldorado@io.com>
wrote
on Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:48:53 -0600
<20061201083502.E75892@fnord.io.com>:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745520/posts

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pelosi_Its_sad_Bush_blaming_Iraqi_1128.html

Pelosi 'sad' over Bush's Iraq representation

House Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said Tuesday she
feels "sad" President Bush blamed insurgent violence on al Qaeda.

"My thoughts on the president's representations are well-known," Pelosi

told reporters....


Nonetheless that is also NOT what
she said. She blames bush for the AlQaeda connection to Iraq Insurgenc as
they had no powerbase in iraq until bush's little excursion.


Answer the simple question: [in her tense]
Does Pelosi NOT say that al Qaeda is not responsible for Insurgent violence,
even though we know Zaraqawi [and now] his successor is hard at work?


This is what Pelosi said:

Today was an opportunity for the President to be candid with the
American people about the status of democracy in Iraq, and when he
will bring our troops home. Instead, the President offered little more
than empty rhetoric, claiming that Iraq is the central front in the
war on terror a position that is simply not supported by the facts.
The President went into Iraq under a false premise, without a plan,
and has totally mismanaged our involvement. Now he is trying to
justify his actions with a series of excuses.

Democrats are committed to fighting and winning the war on terror.
But the Iraq war has made us less safe, and led to squandered
opportunities to fight global terror because of the allocation of
resources in Iraq.

http://democraticleader.house.gov/press/releases.cfm?pressReleaseID=1212
(dated 06-Oct-2006, in a response to Bush's speech of the same day --
supposedly. However, there's no record of any such speech on the White
House pages; the prior day was primarily domestic in tone, though two
pages (#13 and #14) were, interestingly, missing -- not 404, just
missing.)


BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda? They are
two different animals. Al queada may be helping some insurgent groups,
but the reason the insurgent groups exist in the first place is because of
bush's little adventure. There was scant al quaeda activity in iraq
before the invasion. bush created the insurgency and therefore the al
quaeda hotspot by not completing the mission in afghanastan. bin laden
must love bush after tora bora.

Now quit your lying, and quit your taking things out of context simply to
give bush an excuse for failure. bush doesnt need an excuse for failure -
he already failed.

Without repealing Amendment 22, we'll never know if Bush failed, or
simply wasn't given enough time to succeed (though some might make a
very good guess).
With a Democratic House and Senate, the repeal of Amendment 22 is
probably going to be put on the back burner, if it ever was on the front
burner. Recall that FDR was first elected in 1932, took office in 1933,
and died in office about 12 years later, reelected 4 times. With
Amendment 22 in place, it is far from clear whether we would have won
World War II.
Of course Amendment 22 was a response to FDR's longevity in office.
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 06:47:19 PM
In article eldorado wrote:

BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda?
They are two different animals. ...

Then DO TELL THE WORLD how you as a LIB reconcile
the contradiction of Zarqawi being both
Al Qaeda *AND* insurgent...
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 09:13:46 PM
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda?
They are two different animals. ...


Then DO TELL THE WORLD how you as a LIB reconcile
the contradiction of Zarqawi being both
Al Qaeda *AND* insurgent...

Nice job snipping my post, however tell me how your question excuses the
fact that you lied about Pelosi?
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 09:54:28 PM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda?
They are two different animals. ...


Then DO TELL THE WORLD how you as a LIB reconcile
the contradiction of Zarqawi being both
Al Qaeda *AND* insurgent...


Nice job snipping my post, however tell me how your question excuses the
fact that you lied about Pelosi?

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.
The world awaits your next syllable with great anticipation,
because the fact is only too obvious.
LIBs are in denial that Zarqawi is factually both Al Qaeda and Insurgent,
that without him there would have been no insurgency,
and Pelosi, like Our Hero JOHN KERRY, show us
the 'stuff' that LIBs are really made of...
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 01 Dec 2006 11:03:53 PM
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

BTW do you know the difference between insurgents and al quaeda?
They are two different animals. ...


Then DO TELL THE WORLD how you as a LIB reconcile
the contradiction of Zarqawi being both
Al Qaeda *AND* insurgent...


Nice job snipping my post, however tell me how your question excuses the
fact that you lied about Pelosi?


Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

You even have to lie about what you said. I am really getting tired of
talking to you as every post has lies. What you said was Pelosi denied
the existence of al quada. Cannot even remember your lies?
If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean
anything. I have a grey car - that does not mean all cars are grey, nor
does it mean that everything that is grey is also a car. Guess you slept
through intro to logic. Are you REALLY trying to argue that al quaeda
and the iraqi insurgency is the same thing?
If you continue to lie, I will no longer answer your posts. See if you
can (finally) have a post where you don't lie.


The world awaits your next syllable with great anticipation,
because the fact is only too obvious.

LIBs are in denial that Zarqawi is factually both Al Qaeda and Insurgent,
that without him there would have been no insurgency,
and Pelosi, like Our Hero JOHN KERRY, show us
the 'stuff' that LIBs are really made of...


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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 12:08:26 AM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean anything.

...
And there you have it!
the LIB philosophy in a nutshell...
LIBs simply REFUSE to know 'what-to-believe',
pleading ignorance, begging for mercy, please help-me, I don't understand...
Even as Wave after Wave of Terror appear over the Horizon
as so did so many Luftwaffe during WW][, LIBs simply REFUSE to acknowledge
their point of origin, their motivation, and their objectives, demanding instead that
we prosecute each pilot as an individual.... demanding that we implement a modern day Dunkirk...
LIBs who refuse fathom why Zarqawi, a self-admitted AlQaeda leader,
also operated the insurgency on their behalf, have absolutely NO QUALM
about doing unto their own PRECISELY what they forbid us to do to our Adversaries...
Pelosi, a LIB leader, who is 'sad' because BOOOSH correctly identifies Zarqawi as the principal
cause of the insurgency, is an indicator of how far the LIBs will go to Pity even the Devil for being Evil....
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 12:19:51 AM
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean anything.

..

And there you have it!
the LIB philosophy in a nutshell...
LIBs simply REFUSE to know 'what-to-believe',
pleading ignorance, begging for mercy, please help-me, I don't understand...

We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? You mean the stuff lindbaugh tells
you right wingers what to believe? You're damn right, we think for
ourselves - and dont rely on others to tell us what to believe.
I find it refreshing that you admit that you listen to other to know what
to believe.


Even as Wave after Wave of Terror appear over the Horizon
as so did so many Luftwaffe during WW][, LIBs simply REFUSE to acknowledge
their point of origin, their motivation, and their objectives, demanding instead that
we prosecute each pilot as an individual.... demanding that we implement a modern day Dunkirk...

Wave after Wave of terror over the horizon and bin laden is still free
after bush's poor leadership let him go in tora bora. Oh, wait..you right
wingers don't think bin laden is that important.


LIBs who refuse fathom why Zarqawi, a self-admitted AlQaeda leader,
also operated the insurgency on their behalf, have absolutely NO QUALM
about doing unto their own PRECISELY what they forbid us to do to our Adversaries...

You still have not proven zarqawi is both al quada and an insurgent.
Being Jordanian, I would think he was using the insurgents (that were
created due to bush's little adventure) for his own purpose.
Nonetheless, either way it doesnt prove anything...nor does it prove that
Pelosi denied the existence of al quaeda as you asserted.

Pelosi, a LIB leader, who is 'sad' because BOOOSH correctly identifies Zarqawi as the principal
cause of the insurgency, is an indicator of how far the LIBs will go to Pity even the Devil for being Evil....

Prove zarqawi is the principal cause of the insurgency. Or you just
flapping your gums again?


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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 10:49:20 AM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean anything.

..

And there you have it!
the LIB philosophy in a nutshell...
LIBs simply REFUSE to know 'what-to-believe',
pleading ignorance, begging for mercy, please help-me, I don't understand...


We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? ...

LIB denial notwithstanding, LIBs believe in a World Safe for Socialism,
a world with cities ablaze and bodies littering the streets.
But to the point: Take the LIB reading comprehension test:
htttp://www.iwpr.net/?p=icr&s=f&o=325833&apc_state=henpicr
Sunnis targeted by al-Qaeda groups in western Iraq have formed their own militia.
...
“Al-Qaeda's agenda is against Sunni participation in any political process,"
...
Al-Awf’s organisation - formerly known as
al-Tawhid and Jihad - was initially led by Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi and now is
headed by Abu Ayub al-Misri. Osama Bin Laden has recently called on his
followers to target anyone, including Sunnis, cooperating with the Iraqi government.
ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.
Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda inspired.
LIBs not just mistaken. Evil.
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 04 Dec 2006 07:18:09 AM
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean anything.

..

And there you have it!
the LIB philosophy in a nutshell...
LIBs simply REFUSE to know 'what-to-believe',
pleading ignorance, begging for mercy, please help-me, I don't understand...


We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? ...


LIB denial notwithstanding, LIBs believe in a World Safe for Socialism,
a world with cities ablaze and bodies littering the streets.
But to the point: Take the LIB reading comprehension test:

htttp://www.iwpr.net/?p=icr&s=f&o=325833&apc_state=henpicr
Sunnis targeted by al-Qaeda groups in western Iraq have formed their own militia.
..
“Al-Qaeda's agenda is against Sunni participation in any political process,"
..
Al-Awf’s organisation - formerly known as
al-Tawhid and Jihad - was initially led by Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi and now is
headed by Abu Ayub al-Misri. Osama Bin Laden has recently called on his
followers to target anyone, including Sunnis, cooperating with the Iraqi government.

What you are doing is putting the cart before the horse. bush's little
excursion into iraq created the insurgency. al qaeda is using bush's
mistake - and using parts of the insurgency to "bleed America".



ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.
Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda inspired.

Where does your article state that Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent?
He is Jordanian, so probably not a member of the insurgency. He is al
qaeda, and as such is playing bush's mistakes.
Don't you feel the least bit sad that bush's little excursion from the
Afghan front allowed bin laden to escape in tora bora? Don't you feel the
least bit angry that bush has given al qaeda an additional tool by his
little excursion?
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 04 Dec 2006 08:55:56 PM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.
Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda

inspired.

Where does your article state that Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent? ...

LIBs like you would make the distinction of Hitler NOT being German,
therefore he COULD NOT be a NAZI despite the fact that legions
of German Wehrmacht and SS followed him...
LIBs like you subscribe to the 'Good German' theory...
and YOU KNOW IT!
LIBs like you and Pelosi are setting the World Ablaze
as wave after wave of Terror appear over the horizon
as did so many Luftwaffe during the Battle of Brittan...
You have the unique excuse of declaring that they COULDN'T
be NAZI/Third Reich bombers because they are led by an Austrian !!!
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There are two absolutely extraordinary aspects of this story. One is that Bill Clinton, a former President of the United States,
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"When [the U.S.] kicked out Saddam, they decided to dismantle the whole authority structure," Clinton told an audience at
American University in Dubai. "Most of the people who were part of that structure were good, decent people who were making the best
out of a very bad situation," he added.
“Good, decent people who were making the best out of a very bad situation”? Hasn’t anyone in the American press read a history of
the Nuremberg trials? Or, if reading a book is too daunting a task, haven’t any of them seen the award-winning Spencer Tracy movie,
“Judgment at Nuremberg”?
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User: "eldorado"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 05 Dec 2006 07:06:06 AM
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.
Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda

inspired.

Where does your article state that Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent? ...


LIBs like you would make the distinction of Hitler NOT being German,
therefore he COULD NOT be a NAZI despite the fact that legions
of German Wehrmacht and SS followed him...

You lost this debate - Godwin's law.
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 05 Dec 2006 07:44:31 AM
In article eldorado wrote:

On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with

AlQaeda.

How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.
Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda

inspired.

Where does your article state that Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent?

...


LIBs like you would make the distinction of Hitler NOT being German,
therefore he COULD NOT be a NAZI despite the fact that legions
of German Wehrmacht and SS followed him...


You lost this debate

Nonsense, admit it! The FACT is that
Zarqawi is both Insurgent and AlQaeda.
Just as Hitler was both Nazi and Austrian....
LIBs denial of the truth notwithstanding,
they seek to reward the Guilty BECAUSE they are Guilty.
For a Politician such as Pelosi to come out and say
Al Qaeda is not behind the insurgency is NOT JUST mistaken, but Evil.
Palestineans elected Hamas because they promised to make the buses run on time
-- Clinton.
LIB denial ignores the obviousness of the truth that Palestineans
elected Hamas to commit acts of Murder and Homicide on their behalf,
just as they elected Pelosi and her ilk to Lie, Cheat and Betray us all on THEIR behalf.
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 11:29:01 AM
In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<exPresident@au.revoir.gov>
wrote
on Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:49:20 GMT
<k8ich.6012$tM1.1287@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

In article eldorado wrote:

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:

Pelosi is 'sad' that BOOOSH correctly links the Iraq Insurgency with AlQaeda.
How *DO* you as a LIB reconsile the contradiction
of Zarqawi being both insurgent and Al Qaeda.

...

If he is both al quada and an insurgent (and I am not sure he is not
simply al quaeda - perhaps you can prove that he is both - after all he
is Jordanian and not iraqii) doesnt mean anything.

..

And there you have it!
the LIB philosophy in a nutshell...
LIBs simply REFUSE to know 'what-to-believe',
pleading ignorance, begging for mercy, please help-me, I don't understand...


We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? ...


LIB denial notwithstanding, LIBs believe in a World Safe for Socialism,
a world with cities ablaze and bodies littering the streets.

But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.

But to the point: Take the LIB reading comprehension test:

htttp://www.iwpr.net/?p=icr&s=f&o=325833&apc_state=henpicr
Sunnis targeted by al-Qaeda groups in western Iraq have formed their own militia.
..
“Al-Qaeda's agenda is against Sunni participation in any political process,"
..
Al-Awf’s organisation - formerly known as
al-Tawhid and Jihad - was initially led by Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi and now is
headed by Abu Ayub al-Misri. Osama Bin Laden has recently called on his
followers to target anyone, including Sunnis, cooperating with the Iraqi government.


ADMIT IT! Zarqawi is BOTH AlQaeda and Insurgent,
that such insurgency is designed to undermine the political process.

And that is why we need to repeal Amendment 22 as well. Can't leave a
job half-finished.

Pelosi is FLAT OUT WRONG when she says the insurgency is not Al Qaeda inspired.

Inspired, equipped, and funded.


LIBs not just mistaken. Evil.
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LIBS, what price their vision?

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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 01:43:45 PM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
on Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:49:20 GMT

In article eldorado wrote:

We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? ...


LIB denial notwithstanding, LIBs believe in a World Safe for Socialism,
a world with cities ablaze and bodies littering the streets.


But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.

You have to understand that most of these people
are not ready to be unplugged and many are
so hopelessly dependent on the system,
they will fight to protect it.
What must be done is to prevent the Strategic Liberal Insanity
from institutionalizing the notion that 'things' should be
taken from you in the name of the Common Good.
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 02:26:21 PM
In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<exPresident@au.revoir.gov>
wrote
on Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:43:45 GMT
<RHkch.5726$sf5.2450@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
on Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:49:20 GMT

In article eldorado wrote:

We refuse to know 'what-to-believe'? ...


LIB denial notwithstanding, LIBs believe in a World Safe for Socialism,
a world with cities ablaze and bodies littering the streets.


But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.


You have to understand that most of these people
are not ready to be unplugged and many are
so hopelessly dependent on the system,
they will fight to protect it.

So? We should fight to *eradicate* it. Nothing good is ever easy.


What must be done is to prevent the Strategic Liberal Insanity
from institutionalizing the notion that 'things' should be
taken from you in the name of the Common Good.

It's too late; we're already having things taken from us in the name of
the Common Good. These things are called taxes.
We now have to fight to get them back. Best way I can think of is to
rebuild the Republican Party's credibility and then implement my
agenda, as I've posited in other posts. An education campaign wouldn't
be bad either, to instruct the people on the details of why no taxes on
the enterpreneurial class will help the Union, as opposed to the highly
progressive tax structure we have now, which taxes rich peoples' dollars
more than poor ones'.
Ideally, every dollar not used in the running of a business would be
taxed equally, and every dollar that *is* used in the running of a
sufficiently large business would not be taxed at all. (I'd have to
work out precisely what "running" is in this context, as there are
several issues with businesses: acquisition of other businesses,
spinoffs, loss leading, capital investiture in equipment, and wages.
Plus, in the current context, taxes. The last, at least one might
contemplate doing something about.)
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 03:46:53 PM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.


You have to understand that most of these people
are not ready to be unplugged and many are
so hopelessly dependent on the system,
they will fight to protect it.


So? We should fight to *eradicate* it. Nothing good is ever easy.

...
Look Spookula.
Your own terminology betrays you:
There is no WE...
Perhaps you need to resolve this contradiction before
you put yourself forward as an advocate of Individual Rights
and free market enterprise.
As stated before, your 'we'-rights are what has
given us the mixed market economies which are little
more than volatile combinations of kleptocracy and gov't regulation.
It become a casino where the winner take all, and anyone can get away
with anything in the name of gov't.
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Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 03:47:06 PM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.


You have to understand that most of these people
are not ready to be unplugged and many are
so hopelessly dependent on the system,
they will fight to protect it.


So? We should fight to *eradicate* it. Nothing good is ever easy.

...
Look Spookula.
Your own terminology betrays you:
There is no WE...
Perhaps you need to resolve this contradiction before
you put yourself forward as an advocate of Individual Rights
and free market enterprise.
As stated before, your 'we'-rights are what has
given us the mixed market economies which are little
more than volatile combinations of kleptocracy and gov't regulation.
It become a casino where the winner take all, and anyone can get away
with anything in the name of gov't.
.

User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE "

Title: Re: "Grandpa, can you tell me how Bush became our beloved Dictator?" 02 Dec 2006 03:51:31 PM
In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In alt.conspiracy, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE

In article The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

But we're in a socialist world now. Until we get rid of
[SOCIAL] security, Medi[CARE], Medic[AID], and furthermore
reduce taxes to $0 (not incremental $0, real $0) for those
in the enterpreneurial class making $10M or more, we're always
going to have a bit of socialism in our makeup, and it will
Result in turning legitimate businesses away to places like
Liberia, which has no taxes at all.


You have to understand that most of these people
are not ready to be unplugged and many are
so hopelessly dependent on the system,
they will fight to protect it.


So? We should fight to *eradicate* it. Nothing good is ever easy.

...
Look Spookula.
Your own terminology betrays you:
There is no WE...
Perhaps you need to resolve this contradiction before
you put yourself forward as an advocate of Individual Rights
and free market enterprise.
As stated before, your 'we'-rights are what has
given us the mixed market economies which are little
more than volatile combinations of kleptocracy and gov't regulation.
It become a casino where the winner take all, and anyone can get away
with anything in the name of gov't.
.























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