| Topic: |
Politics > Politics-USA |
| User: |
"DGVREIMAN" |
| Date: |
14 Apr 2006 02:41:34 PM |
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GROUP POSTINGS, FORGERIES AND TYPISTS |
GROUP POSTINGS AND TYPISTS
Since Nigel Brooks has admitted below that he could never know
who actually wrote any of the posts under the Doug Grant name, it
is time for the rest of the gang members to understand why Mr.
Brooks has finally admitted that fact. The fact is that dozens of
different people were posting exchanges and posts under the same
Doug Grant and Dggrant name, were cooperatively using typists to
post for them off of documents they wrote or off of their
dictation, and also during this time there were hundreds of
forgeries posted by casino agents and hate-American types using
the ddgrant email address and also posting under the name Doug
Grant, and Doug Grant (Tm).
One of the most prolific forgers with the initial's JM, was also
a SDS officer during the Vietnam war. (Note the SDS ((Students
for a Democratic Society)) was a terrorist organization that even
went so far as to send operatives to Cuba for terrorist training.
Their mission was to come back to the USA and disrupt military
bases, recruiting offices, etc., and an offshoot of the SDS was
the "Weathermen" who of course were known as outright terrorists
and were guilty of bombings and murder).
Needless to say when we discovered this "JM" character from Texas
was a former SDS officer, all of his posts turned into attacks,
forgeries about me, ridiculous misinterpretations about what I
and others had posted, and an obvious, malicious and purposeful
attempt to defame me with lies, distortions, and forgeries, -
sound familiar?
However, ol "JM" knew his credibility was shot on any kind of
Veteran NG due to his past SDS connections, and due to his
screaming liberal position politically, and his constant and
repetitive hate-America, hate our troops, hate our war on terror,
posts and proclamations.
So he did what most smear merchants do. He dropped his real name
and started using aliases, different ISP's, proxy servers,
remailers, etc.., and he panned himself off as a Veteran, and an
expert on various things, especially anything to do with me and
anything I had done or said in the past.
This guy allied himself with a couple of other known smear
merchants and cyberstalkers that will follow me from NG to NG and
try their best to incite posters on any NG to attack me. They
accomplish this with outright lies, false interpretations and
false accusations, replete with fraud and forgeries about what I
was supposed to have said and meant sometime in the distant past.
Then, when they covert some new and naive person to help them
attack me, even when I prove this league of smear merchants the
frauds they are, it is very difficult for anyone that has been
sucked in by them to admit their mistake. As that experience is
humiliating in two respects (1) they need to openly admit they
were sucked in by con men, and (2) they need to swallow their
pride and accept the fact they were wrong about something - which
for many egos that is almost impossible to do.
Someone very wise told me "you cannot defend yourself on the
Internet as there are no rules of evidence, anyone and everyone
can lie and distort evidence, only in a court of law can you
cipher through all of the lies and distortions. " That sounds
like Sage advice, yet I am still convinced for those ethical and
objective people out there (the unethical ones do not matter)
good old-fashioned debate, a discussion and really honest
evidence still have a place on the Internet, and such can expose
con men and smear merchants for what they are. So defending
myself here is my priority, and keep in mind that I am
*responding* to attacks on me that are continuing and even
growing more shrill as I post the truth about those attacks. The
smear merchants are getting frantic that their smear campaign is
blowing back into their faces, and now even new smear merchants
are showing up under different guises, names, but all with the
precise same obvious objective, defame me with any lie, any
distortion, any forgery, any false accusation they can conjure
up.
There are more than a hundred Google archived posts that prove
(1) several different people were using the Doug Grant and
Dggrant account to post under, (2) we collectively used typists
to post off of our dictation and written notes (3) the typists
had the power to rewrite (a big mistake) and (4) there were
hundreds of forgeries posted under the dggrant name by smear
merchants, and (5) there were lots and lots of typos or ambiguous
statements due to the typists not completely understanding what
was being dictated, or said to them as they typed responses to
various posts.
..
When our teams were operational, we had about 300 people total in
the cooperative team. We would run shifts of four hours each in
the casinos, and when a team shift would return to the school in
the AC area, they had nothing to do but sit around and either
watch TV, or read what was going on in various newsgroups, and
respond or post to those newsgroups.
Out of the 300 (99% men) I would say about 50 were Vietnam Vets.
Guys would sit around the computer while the typist would open
various posts, and many of them would reply to the same, post and
sometimes a dozen would be involved in a single exchange with one
of the hate America types or casino agents. Eddie might respond
to the first statement made by a poster, and then Jason tell the
typist what to write in response to the casino agent's retort.
Sometimes there were dozens of different people all participating
in the same conversations or exchanges!
That is why it is so difficult for me to know who wrote what, and
why they wrote it. However, what I *know* I wrote and meant I
will gladly admit, and I have already done with the BB issue and
the estimated BC issue, and several other issues. But I will NOT
admit nor agree to any exchange that is a forgery, or that I did
not write or dictate, or to something I did write but was taken
out of context by some smear merchant in the past. The following
Google archived posts prove without a doubt that many different
people were using the dggrant account, we used typists to type
and arbitrarily edit. our posts, and there were hundreds perhaps
thousands of forged posts under the Doug Grant name that had
nothing to do with me, or my team.
I have just posted a sampling of google archived posts that prove
all I have said above, but there are hundreds more, and briefs
filed with various courts that state everything I am saying here,
and then some. So if you want to see more email me.
First, A google archive of Nigel's admission that he cannot be
sure who wrote what under the Doug Grant accounts:
"Nigel Brooks" <> wrote in message
news:49u2qhFqjperU1@individual.net...
"Big Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote in message
news:vf6dnSpjupr7TKTZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Pepperoni" wrote
: "!Jones" wrote
: > "Nigel Brooks" wrote:
: >
I'm betting on Dougie; any takers? I got
: > 10 Usenet-bucks says Doug trounces the newby!
: >
: > Jones
:
: I'll take 5UBs worth, but to win he has to trounce the newby
*before* he
: goes the self- destruct routine.
I'm glad this is just a game to you people.
--
Machque (Bear)
Nec Aspera Terrent
"A wannabe is someone who basks in the valor earned by
others." -Norb
Nigel Said:
Well it's not a game when the clown makes threats - but you
certainly can't
take him seriously, he's been thoroughly spanked everywhere
he's been in
usenet. A simple google of dgvreiman,
will really
tell you all you need to know about him.
Doug Says: Oh pleazzzze! Every lawsuit I have filed for libel I
have won or have received a favorable settlement. Your Google
search only produces the libel, not what happened to those that
spewed it. I posted the docket numbers of the lawsuits I filed
before, would you like to see them again?
Nigel Said:
Trouble is - you can never be sure that he was doing the
posting.. Could've
been someone on his team, or a typo by one of his typists who
didn't get his
dictation down right. Or a typist who put a Doug Grant
signature on a Dr
Profe's post in error.
Doug Says: Finally BS Brooks has admitted above that he knows
that I did not post or write or dictate all the lies and
distorions he has been claiming I did. This will look real good
in court. Off to the lawyer with this one/
Doug Grant (Tm)
--
Nigel Brooks
Note that all of these posts that mention groups using the same
account, and cooperative typists, contain dates YEARS before the
BS Brooks gang started to defame me on alt.war.vietnam.
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PROOF OF A GROUP POSTING AND MEETING AT THE SAME TIME OFF OF THE
SAME COMPUTER 1997
The RGBM vote is wrong
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In news.groups DOUGLAS REIMAN <> wrote:
: Is that why you and your friends are so desperate to hide from
real
: evidence? Why are you hiding from Sworn Affidavits and other
offers of
: proof if you think you are right?
Sworn affidavits are not computer logs/bill of AOL users
and their voting screen names, that's why?
---guy
I guess the "judge" is ignoring you too!!!
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"DOUGLAS REIMAN" <> writes:
More "self-serving" conclusions from the boys. What Luzzi
(DeGennaro)
is
not telling you is that he knows we are a group. And that we
have
meetings. And we all vote around the same time, and post around
the
same
time.
Is there a rule against that? Of course not. So what is this
post all
about? It is about hiding the truth, and more lies from those
that gain
by
lying.
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EVEN THE CASINO AGENTS ARE POSTING THAT WE ARE USING A COMMON
TYPIST FOR THE GROUP
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Date: 1997/09/17
Subject: Yo, Abdul! (Was: Bye Bye Dougie Bye Bye Con)
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In article <01bcc31a$b552cdc0$89ee93cf@dg>,
DOUGLAS REIMAN <>
directed The Common Typist to write:
I have provided so much math to this group you should have it
coming out
of
your ears. But as long as you *ignore* it, I guess you can lie
and claim
you have never seen it.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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CLEAR AND CONCISE PROOF THAT I ANNOUNCED WE WERE COOPERATIVELY
USING THE SAME TYPISTS TO POST OUR POSTS AND DICTATION 1997
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Date: 1997/12/27
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Please state where in the CFV it says a group of people cannot
use a
typist? Are you such an idiot that you do not realize that many
people find the collective use of a typist productive - or is
that
too much for you to comprehend? I know Solinas has lied about the
CFV, and they have posted the lie that a "typist" is a violation
of
the CFV. But if you want to lie and libel right along with him,
be
my guest. Just do not expect anyone to believe you no matter how
much you forge names and openly lie. One more idiot making an *****
out of himself with lies is fun, but still booring considering
your
alias fits right in with the rest.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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PROOF THAT AT LEAST 60 OTHER PEOPLE WERE USING THE SAME DOUG
GRANT ACCOUNT
Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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Subject: Re: Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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In article <5upg3i$...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
DOUGLAS REIMAN <> wrote:
Woops! I said that *I* have never used an alias. Many people use
aliases
on this newsgroup - most do in fact. I never have. I always
signed my
name with a version of Doug Grant. You and Abdul and friends
claimed that
Floyd Young (and about 50 or 60 other names) were MY aliases.
You were
trying to represent to the newbies that I was only one crazy
person that
was questioning all those fantastic system claims. You did not
want to
admit that dozens of former professional players were agreeing
with me.
So
now you have changed your story once again. I suggest you get
your
facts
straight before you post anymore self serving lies.
Doug Grant (Tm)
No Systems To Sell
PROOF THAT I SAID OFTEN THAT OUR GROUP COOPERATIVELY USED TYPISTS
TO POST OUR POSTS AND WRITE OUR DICTATION
Ah, but Doug did say that he and others "share the same typist."
What's the story there?
Who is the typist?
How do they share him or her?
Exactly what does that phrase mean?
(Of course Doug won't reply. He never replies to tough
or embarassing questions.)
--
John Chandler
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ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT I SAID THAT I AND THE LFP'S WERE ALL USING
THE SAME TYPISTS TO POST UNDER THE DOUG GRANT ACCOUNT
DOUGLAS REIMAN Sep 7 1997, 3:00 am show options
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This question certainly is not tough or embarrasing. I have
already
answered it several times. A typist is someone who types. You
should
know
that - check your speller or call your mommy - she will explain
it to you.
I must say that I am getting tired of baby-sitting some on this
newsgroup.
If you do not know the meaning of a particiular word, then ask
someone
else
or look it up. Sheesh what wimps!
Doug Grant and LFP's
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MORE PROOF WE WERE USING TYPISTS TO POST OUR DICTATION AND
RETORTS IN EXCHANGES
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Then answer me this, o the sage of RGB unmoderated.
1. how do you and your "teammembers" send messages to your
typist? Do you
hand write out all the replies beforehand? Since the
"sockpuppets" who
claim not to be you claimed to live in different states, do you
constantly
fax hand written notes to your typist?
2. how much does the typist make from typing up your messages?
3. if you bother of answer question 1 and 2 above, why do you
have to hire
a typist in the first place? Couldn't you save money just by
typing the
messages yourself? Do you know how to type?
4. I demand to know the real name and address of your typist. I
may have
some business for him.
Grativo
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ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING FORGERIES OF ALL KINDS
AND DESCRIPTIONS
Dggrant and Other Forgeries:
From: "Paul Yannessa" <pyanne...@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups:
rec.gambling.blackjack References:
<tKpz6.11375$rk4.885838@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
<3ACE5AE4.40A95BC0@lvegas.com>
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Subject: Re: Death Threat Re: Cyberstalking Law Enforcement [1/2]
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18:13:53 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Not only forging our
names but now Judge Irenas' name? AINT HE DUMB?? Paul Yannessa
DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN <> wrote in message
news:7fwz6.11380$IJ1.964733@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
"Please die or be killed soon" is what I received by posting a
specific and detailed report on cyberstalking from the Attorney
General's offfice. Moreover, this con man forged a Federal
Judge's > name (Judge Irenas) to the death threat. > > Now how
many of you truty want to involve yourselves with this > obvious
criminal? If you cannot see what is going on from this very >
post, then you deserve to be prosecuted right along with this con
man. > > Doug Grant (Tm) > > "Thomas Bolick" <tbol...@pil.net>
wrote in message >
news:lauz6.1081$4e.276510@newshog.newsread.com... > > No, allow
me. > > Doug wrote: > > I have posted the recent Law Enforcement
flyer on Cyberstalking sent > > to various law enforcement
agencies in 1999. Since that time almost > > all 50 states have
enacted very specific penalties for > cyberstalking. > > > > Note
that cyberstalking is defined as (1) harassing people on the > >
internet (2) using forgeries of a persons name or email name for
harassment or ridicule, and several other features that are
being > > directed towards me by the con men on a daily basis. >
Note: Not only are there at least six different locations that
can be identified by these posts, there are not less than 58
*recorded* Google posts that deal with Doug Grant forgeries,
there are over 65 archived Google posts that deal with the fact I
have advised all that we use cooperative accounts and typists.
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Doug Grant Forgeries Being Used Mentioned.
From: "DougGrant" <> Subject: $100,000
challenge fake names Date: 1999/04/08 Message-ID:
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rec.gambling.blackjack Considering I have never used a fake name
or a fake user ID, you seem to be misinfomed.. However, I have
read about a dozen forgeries of my name used by the con men. They
forge my name, and then accuse me and everyone else of doing what
they do everyday, and that is use fake names and fake user ID's.
If anyone would like to make a qick $100,000 then all they need
to do is sue and dispute what I am saying. Once in court, the
judge can issue orders that will force the ISP's to reveal the
account names. I think the time has come for all to understand
that there are legal ways to cut the *****. It is time for the
con men to put up or admit they are lying. Doug Grant (Tm)
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Forgeries and Threats Being Used Mentioned.
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Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: Re: SPAM RE ON-LINE
CASINOS >In article <7e5783$ct...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> you
wrote: >: We have noticed a lot of spam coming from the on-line
casino rip-off sites >: lately. We know that some of the other
casino agents, system >: hucksters and con men are involved in
these cons. If you are receiving spam >: email from these on-line
casinos, or if you are receiving sexual >: solicitations or kiddy
porn from some of the con men that post under fake >: names on
this newsgroup, please let me know. We know that several posters
: have received kiddy porn and death threats from these con men
when the >: poster agreed with the fact that casinos are cheating
when they use the >: preferential shuffle, or that card counting
systems have been proved a >: failure against real world casinos.
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Forgeries and Fabrications mentioned under the Doug Grant Dggrant
name.
AMAZING NEWS FOR CON MEN
... > Date: 12/26/98 12:54 PM
Central Standard Time
Message-id: <763bda$oa5@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> More
forgeries and fabrications ...
rec.gambling.blackjack - Dec 28 1998, 7:47 pm by dggrant -
223 messages - 26 authors
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FORGERIES POSTED UNDER THE DDGRANT NAME TO ENDORSE PRODUCTS
From: "DGGRANT" <> Newsgroups:
rec.gambling.blackjack References:
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<3abbc993.5225952@nntp.attcanada.ca>
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02:03:45 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet See below: "Bing"
<b...@paxentertainment.com> wrote in message
news:3ac11357.23101843@news.fu-berlin.de... > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001
01:59:35 GMT, "DGGRANT" <> > wrote: > > >
No one cares what you claim since you do > > not advertise
on-line casinos. > > Interesting. For years you blather on and on
how no > one will believe me since I am obviously an agent > of
this or that casino and huckster. > > Now, you say nobody will
believe me because I > am NOT affiliated with them. BingoBilly is
posting excerpts from posts out of context or non existent. Now
if this con man could win, do you think he would be lying and
conning the readers of this newsgroup with obvious cut and past
out of context con man jargon? It is easy to prove BingoBilly is
lying and conning. Simply go back and read the post he is
referencing, or email me and I will send it to you. This is a
well-known pathetic con man tactic that has been used since the
days of the traveling flim-flam men. They love to try and use
forgeries and out-of-context statements as a fraudulent
testimonial of their acumen or snake oil products.
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PROOF OF DGGRANT FORGERIES POSTED BY THE GUY WHO LIED ABOUT THE
LAWSUIT CONCLUSION (AND IS STILL LYING ABOUT IT TODAY) AND WAS
QUOTED AND REFERENCED BY THE BS BROOKS GANG SEVERAL TIMES
From: "DGGRANT" <> Newsgroups:
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<> writes:
Apparently Rusty has decided to forge my name some more. Does he
really think he will get away with trying to con the readers of
this
newsgroup with outright forgeries? Would he need to resort to
criminal activity if his preposterous claims that card counting
can
win were true?
Doug
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OFFICAL COMPLAINTS TO AT&T ABOUT DGGRANT FORGERIES
From: "DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN" <>
Newsgroups: rec.gambling.blackjack References:
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Ref my post: I see you are adding in all of your forgeries and
other forgeries also in your tally. I must wonder why you guys
are so desperate that you need to use cyberstalking and name
forgeries? Can't you simply prove your hype systems can win like
I have been asking? Don't you think the newbies can see through
all of your pathetic attempts to defame me and others that are
telling the truth about your con game of claiming losing systems
are winners (like card counting)? What's the matter, are the
suckers starting to catch on? Are they starting to ask for proof
before they buy one of your snake oil systems or software? Or,
could it be the illegal online casinos that are kicking you back
up to 50% of what your suckers lose have stopped sending out
checks? Too bad. But regardless of all your whimpering and
whining, begging and panic attacks, I do not intend to stop
posting the truth on these newsgroups. We all know that you are
clearly panic stricken to hide my posts. If not why go to all
this bother to lie, con and use cyberstalking and malicious libel
to attack anyone that simply is telling the truth about how card
counting has been proved a loser against real world casinos. Doug
Grant (Tm) "Doug Grant"
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"Jim McCulloch" <mccull...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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in article
7emja.45766$ja4.2825...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
DGVREIMAN at wrote on 4/4/03 2:50 PM:
Doug Says: HAHAHAHA. Please Jimmy stop the self-serving and
obvious distortions of what I said. I said "The Lieutenants
and
Captains are usually only in the Military for two or less
years"
Yes. That's what you said. That's what I quoted. And that is
incorrect.
So how could someone who actually served in the Army _and_ the
Marines, make
such a mistake? Very puzzling.
Doug Says: Jimmy, you have been caught lying again. Now you are
lying in every post. That is not what I said, and when you
reposted the post that fact was clear. Now if you are going to
distort what I say, then lie about what I say, and then question
your own lies, those are questions that you need to answer
yourself. Why would someone want to distort what I say,
obviously distort it, and then try to use their own distortions
to try and discredit or ridicule someone? Why would you want to
do that Jimmy? Very puzzling. See below for what Jimmy is
trying to hide, and what he snipped out.
Doug Says: HAHAHAHA. Please Jimmy stop the self-serving and
obvious distortions of what I said. I said "The Lieutenants
and
Captains are
usually only in the Military for two or less years to make
their ranks" not that
they STAY in the military for only two years or less like you
are
clearly distorting. See what happens when I make you repost
what
I say in context Jimmy? Your distorted ***** becomes
apparent
to us all. . When I was in the Army a Captain made Captain in
TWO YEARS OR LESS! So the Liutenants and Captains only had a
"two years or less of service" when they took command. A 2nd
Liutenant is given command of a platoon right out of OCS or
West
Point, and I assure you that they are broken in by the Senior
NCO's in the platoon before they take full command. That is
the
way it was in Vietnam, and the fact you are not aware of that
common process is just more evidence that you know absolutely
nothing of what you are talking about.
The tough, grizzled top sergeant giving a well deserved
chewing-out to a
callow 2nd lieutenant is the stuff of movies, but in real
life
was, and is,
insubordination, and would result in disciplinary action
against the first
sergeant, no matter how to senior. Of course a senior NCO
would
not be so
foolish as to give orders to an officer, no matter how
junior.
Doug Says: Jimmy you are absolutely nuts. 2nd Lieutenants are
normally smart enough to know they are going to take direction
from the Senior NCO's in the platoon even before their own men
will accept them as in command. This is standard information
provided in OCS, and most 2nd Lieutenants *want* their senior
NCOs to show them the ropes before they start giving orders
that
will get everyone killed. Do you really believe that in a
combat situation, a 2nd Lt., directly out of OCS, with perhaps
less than one year in service is going to take total control of
a
combat platoon of men away from senior NCO that have years of
combat experience? If you do, then you much dumber than you
sound, if that is possible. The worst thing a 2nd Lt., could
do
is give some stupid order and have it openly countermanded by a
senior NCO to save the lives of the platoon. So the
Lieutenants
wisely take a few weeks and allow the NCO's to show them the
ropes before taking command. There are exceptions, such as a
2nd
Lt., that was commissioned from the NCO ranks, but for the most
part a 2nd Lt., is broken in by the senior NCO's in the
platoon.
Jimmy, you are an idiot when it comes to this topic. You were
a
member of the SDS terrorist organization, and perhaps that is
the
way it worked in your terrorist organization, but in the Army
during the Vietnam war, it worked just the way I said it did.
You have been caught distorting and lying to the group yet
AGAIN
Jimmy? HAHAHAHAHAHA. When will you ever learn?
The business about field grade officers not being "required"
to
go "ever"
into combat is in principle also nonsense. If the colonel of
the regiment
orders Major Smith to accompany his battalion into combat,
Major Smith is
"required" to do go. Never happened? Well, about 9 percent of
officer deaths
in the Army in Vietnam were field grade officers. Some of
them
were acting
under orders, and, we have to presume, not all of them were
accidentally and
fatally impaled on punji stakes while out for a stroll in the
evening.
Doug Says: Jimmy, you idiot, where are you getting your
figures?
I was a NCO in Vietnam and I have never seen a Major or above
holding a rifle and leading
ground troops in combat in Vietnam. They might be flying
around
in a Helicopter, or in the rear in a command center, but down
on
the ground it is Captains and below that are actually leading
the
troops into a firefight...and usually never even a Captain.
When
troops first arrived in Vietnam there were cases of field
grades
leading ground operations, but as a rule, they NEVER lead
troops
in combat. They might come in during a battle to review or
asertain the effects of the operation, or after a battle, but
leading a fight on the ground with a rifle? No way, very
unusual. They are not that stupid Jimmy, they know they are
the
first target of the enemy.
Let me remind you Jimmy that you worked for some Texas
University. You were in the SDS terrorist organization that
murdering Americans and hated Vietnam vets, and you were
obviously never in the US Miltiary during combat operations in
Vietnam. You do not know anything about combat service, and
you
certainly were not in Vietnam nor in combat. Your information
is
goofy, stupid and not even close to being the truth. You are
doing nothing more than lying and make ridicilous statments
that
I, who has years of military service and 2&1/2 tours of duty in
Vietnam, know is utter *****.
Happy now, Doug?
Doug Says: Yep, very happy Jimmy. You have managed to make a
complete and utter fool out of yourself again, along with being
caught in a clear attempt to distort what I said. Yep, I must
say I am very very happy Jimmy.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Best regards,
--Jim McCulloch
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STATEMENT ABOUT GROUP USING THE SAME DGGRANT ACCOUNT
Scott Klee Jul 30 1998, 3:00 am show options
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BRubin7878 wrote:
Subject: Re: INTERNET GAMBLING DOOMED!
From: "DGGRANT"
Strange the courts see sixty different people The lawyers for
the
casinos
see them? Their names are all listed on the face of the
official court
documents, including our lawsuit,
The courts do not see any people, they see names on a piece of
paper.
Funny, I think there were at least 30 of us that personally went
to the oral arguments. If you think no one saw us, you are wrong.
Scott Klee
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jac...@xmission.com wrote:
"DGRANT" < > writes:
Jacobs you imbecile! We are not attempting to destroy
anything!
On the
contrary, if you read our lawsuit, we are attempting to
preserve
skilled
play while allowing the casinos the opportunity to continue
to profit.
You
have absolutely no idea what we have recommended, nor for
that matter,
any
clue as to how to play winning Blackjack. I find it amazing
that
after my
years of training winning teams to play high stake Blackjack,
and
my
team's winning more money longer than any other teams in
history, I
still
encounter arrogant individuals such as yourself that attempt
to
dictate to
me about card counting and the game of Blackjack.
Your arrogance, lack of understanding of the issues, general
stupidity, and
lack of success with the game does not make you an expert on
anything
to do
with the game of Blackjack.
I see, and what does your arrogance, lack of understanding of
the
issues,
general stupidity, and lack of success make YOU an expert on?
You moron.
Not to mention give you any right to dictate
anything to me about the game, or for that matter, any one of
my
former team
members.
Dictate? Are we back to talking about the Shared Typist?
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SEVERAL DIFFERENT DGGRANT ACCOUNT USERS MENTIONED
Scott Klee Oct 5 1997, 3:00 am show options
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In article <degenna*r*-0310971436520...@comserv-h-72.usc.edu>,
degenna...@bmsrs.usc.edu says...
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I just had to get my login ID changed, because my email address
got
lifted
and added to some commercial SPAM list, and I got an idear (it's
probably
not original, tho...):
Add this to the bottom of your .sig:
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Doogie SPAMbait:
dgrant...@aol.com
dgtel...@aol.com
f...@aol.com
joo...@earthlink.com
pinballwiz...@worldnet.att.net
ree...@aol.com
russ...@worldnet.att.net
sck...@holonet.net
tbolick...@aol.com
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This way, The Ol' Doogie could get several extra pieces of
Commercial
tripe daily (I was averaging 5 a day).
ray
Doogie SPAMbait:
dgrant...@aol.com
dgtel...@aol.com
f...@aol.com
joo...@earthlink.com
pinballwiz...@worldnet.att.net
ree...@aol.com
russ...@worldnet.att.net
sck...@holonet.net
tbolick...@aol.com
Uh Ray,
joo777, Russ Hall, and pinballwizard are not Doug Grant
supporters
neccessarily. Russ and pinballwizard certainly have made comments
against
card counting, but we have no idea who they are (maybe nice
guys). It would
appear that you are attacking ANYONE who posts ANYTHING against
card
counting. Hmmm.. I wonder why.
Scott Klee
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT OTHERS (ALLEGED SOCK PUPPETS) ARE USING THE
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"DOUGLAS REIMAN" < > wrote:
Don't waste your time with the Puppet
Master and any of his puppets that are using his account.
Doug & Sock Puppets snipped.
I am shunning Doug and the Sock Puppets ...
bandwidth.
Hope you will do the same.
Bruce Van Epps
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"DOUGLAS REIMAN" < > wrote:
For those new to the group:
<Further snippage of one sock puppet standing up for another sock
puppet. Please join the responsible members of this newsgroup in
shunning the posts of the Doug Grant puppets and the puppeteer.
Their questions that seem so new to them have been answered
repeatedly. The fact that they have no memory is not our problem.
FVY especially, cannot remember who he is.
Mike Luzzi
Doug & Sock Puppets snipped.
Bruce Van Epps
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Goofy Ray is at it again I see. Our webpage is almost ready - you
need to show a tiny bit of patience, goofy. Of course, you
continue
to post incredible lies to divert attention away from the real
issues.
If goofy Ray doesn't like someone, he just posts a lie, and then
another lie, and then another lie, and then another lie, and then
another lie, and so on. We've exposed the BIG CON, and I can
understand why that would upset you, goofy. Why don't you just
crawl
back under your rock where you belong and stop posting your lies
on
Doug's newsgroup - your posts continue to expose you for the
idiot
that you are.
Scott Klee
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DOOGIE'S BACK !!!
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I resubscribed to this group and was surprised that Doug Grant
and his
sock
puppets weren't here! But now he's back. 80 sock puppets are
using the same account again.
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MORE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT A GROUP WAS USING THE DDGRANT ACCOUNT
(ALLEGED DGGRANT SOCK PUPPETS).
DOUGLAS REIMAN wrote:
Doug & Sock Puppets snipped.
Due to the actions of Doug Grant, this thread has been snipped.
All responsible readers of rec.gambling.blackjack should refrain
from responding to Mr. Grant's posts.
I am shunning Doug and the Sock Puppets due to repetitive
posting, baseless threats, and just general waste of bandwidth.
Hope you will do the same.
Have a nice day
John
Death to the Sock Puppet Empire
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Doug Says: If anyone wants to do a search on JM's posts, it is
obvious he quit using his name after the 2004 election. He hated
me as he was a staunch Kerry supporter and a Bush Hater, and a
Veteran hater I might also add. (JM also hated the swift boaters,
and anyone that supported them, such as I did openly. The post
below is one of his last posts before he started switching to
aliases.
Here is one of his last posts:
From:
Jim McCulloch - view profile
Date:
Fri, Oct 29 2004 2:04 pm
Email:
Jim McCulloch <mccull...@mail.utexas.edu>
Groups:
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David Lentz wrote:
"Jim McCulloch" <mccull...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:Csugd.12190$lM1.5106@fe2.texas.rr.com...
David Lentz wrote:
There are question for John Kerry:
http://www.swiftvetsandpows.com/
All the Swift Boat accusations have all been answered and
demolished,
but the peculiar virus-like function of such accusations in the
minds of
fundamentalist Republicans is curious, and I would like to take
a few
moments of your time to comment on it.
Name one bit of evidence that John Kerry spent Christmas eve,
or Christmas
of 1968 in Cambodia. None exists. Yet Kerry claimed for years
to spent
Christmas of 1968 in Cambodia. The Kerry campaign for months
have
insisted that Kerry has released all of his military records.
Yet this
week, Kerry told Tom Brokaw that has not released his military
records.
Brokaw had asserted comparison of military entrance exams had
shown George
W. Bush to have been smarter than Kerry. To which, Kerry
counter that his
entance scores had not been released because Kerry had not
released his
military records.
Sigh. You didn't read my post, did you? OK, I give up. Here's a
meme
you will understand:
Being trouble by Bush's statement that "We don't even know if
Osama is still alive," Osama bin Laden himself decided to send
George Bush a
message in his own handwriting to let him know that he was still
in the
game.
Bush opened the letter and it appeared to contain this coded
handwritten
message:
370HSSV-0773H
Bush was baffled, so he typed it out and emailed it to *****
Cheney.
Cheney was stumped, so he sent it to Wolfowitz and Ms Rice. They
couldn't figure it out, so they sent it to the new Republican
hack
running the CIA. The CIA analysts immediately knew what it meant,
but
professed ignorance cuz they didn't want to get fired. Finally a
White
House secretary sent it to Colin Powell, who called back in a few
minutes and said "Tell the President he is looking at the message
upside
down."
cheers,
--Jim McCulloch
Doug Says: There are dozens of other posts that prove irrefutably
that my group was collectively using the same accounts, and that
people were forging all kinds of information in posts that we
posted in the past, then they would incorporate those posts into
a new comment, and if any of my group answered that report
without reading it properly, or without showing all text, then
the forgeries could get that forged passage into the threads.
That is why is essential to find a Google Archive with a Doug
Grant message ID before anyone can be sure that it even came from
the Doug Grant account in the way it is being presented, and even
then, it still needs to be scrutinized as to whom actually wrote,
dictated and typed the passage.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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I've never seen someone so full of himself than you...
Get a fucking life, moron...
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Tell me Doug,
If you are so generous as to allow all these people to post using your
account, and say what the hell they like (which by coincidence is
always authoratarian cant filled with False Dilemma "with me or
against me" fallacies and others), then why are you so god-damned
SENSITIVE about so called "personal attacks"?
Why aren't you threatening to sue members of your own "team" for
producing posts that make you look like a pathological lying lunatic?
If I were you I would have vetted my "team" better.
And my "secretary" would have been out on her ***** for incompetence.
<snicker>
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Tell me Doug,
If you are so generous as to allow all these people to post
using your
account, and say what the hell they like (which by coincidence
is
always authoratarian cant filled with False Dilemma "with me or
against me" fallacies and others), then why are you so
god-damned
SENSITIVE about so called "personal attacks"?
Doug Says: Your opinion of what my group wrote is about as
delusional as your posts. People that post under that account
were mostly responding in a conversation, these posts are not
well planned interrogatories. In my opinion your posts are wild,
frantic, mostly lies, and border on the psychopathic they are so
riddled with lies, distortions and false accusations. And what
is truly pitiful, that is all you seem to be able to post.
Now I am not going to feed your mental problems any longer
outside of a court of law. I posted the Cyberstalking rules, I
suggest you read them and make up your mind once and for all
whether you are going to abide by them, and no, I don't want to
argue about those rules either. If you are going to continue
your cyberstalking then that is up to you, and I will do what I
must in response. I did not want it to come to this, but you are
not giving me much choice.
Doug Grant (Tm)
<snicker>
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:05:01 -0400, "DGVREIMAN"
<DGVREIMAN@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
"SteveL" <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:vOidnad3OfF5k93ZRVny2Q@giganews.com...
Tell me Doug,
If you are so generous as to allow all these people to post
using your
account, and say what the hell they like (which by coincidence
is
always authoratarian cant filled with False Dilemma "with me or
against me" fallacies and others), then why are you so
god-damned
SENSITIVE about so called "personal attacks"?
Doug Says: Your opinion of what my group wrote is about as
delusional as your posts. People that post under that account
were mostly responding in a conversation, these posts are not
well planned interrogatories. In my opinion your posts are wild,
frantic, mostly lies, and border on the psychopathic they are so
riddled with lies, distortions and false accusations. And what
is truly pitiful, that is all you seem to be able to post.
Now I am not going to feed your mental problems any longer
outside of a court of law. I posted the Cyberstalking rules, I
suggest you read them and make up your mind once and for all
whether you are going to abide by them, and no, I don't want to
argue about those rules either. If you are going to continue
your cyberstalking then that is up to you, and I will do what I
must in response. I did not want it to come to this, but you are
not giving me much choice.
Doug Grant (Tm)
LOL! Do your worst Dougie. You're fooling nobody.
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GROUP POSTINGS AND TYPISTS
Since Nigel Brooks has admitted below that he could never know
who actually wrote any of the posts under the Doug Grant name, it
is time for the rest of the gang members to understand why Mr.
Brooks has finally admitted that fact. The fact is that dozens of
different people were posting exchanges and posts under the same
Doug Grant and Dggrant name, were cooperatively using typists to
post for them off of documents they wrote or off of their
dictation, and also during this time there were hundreds of
forgeries posted by casino agents and hate-American types using
the ddgrant email address and also posting under the name Doug
Grant, and Doug Grant (Tm).
One of the most prolific forgers with the initial's JM, was also
a SDS officer during the Vietnam war. (Note the SDS ((Students
for a Democratic Society)) was a terrorist organization that even
went so far as to send operatives to Cuba for terrorist training.
Their mission was to come back to the USA and disrupt military
bases, recruiting offices, etc., and an offshoot of the SDS was
the "Weathermen" who of course were known as outright terrorists
and were guilty of bombings and murder).
Needless to say when we discovered this "JM" character from Texas
was a former SDS officer, all of his posts turned into attacks,
forgeries about me, ridiculous misinterpretations about what I
and others had posted, and an obvious, malicious and purposeful
attempt to defame me with lies, distortions, and forgeries, -
sound familiar?
However, ol "JM" knew his credibility was shot on any kind of
Veteran NG due to his past SDS connections, and due to his
screaming liberal position politically, and his constant and
repetitive hate-America, hate our troops, hate our war on terror,
posts and proclamations.
So he did what most smear merchants do. He dropped his real name
and started using aliases, different ISP's, proxy servers,
remailers, etc.., and he panned himself off as a Veteran, and an
expert on various things, especially anything to do with me and
anything I had done or said in the past.
This guy allied himself with a couple of other known smear
merchants and cyberstalkers that will follow me from NG to NG and
try their best to incite posters on any NG to attack me. They
accomplish this with outright lies, false interpretations and
false accusations, replete with fraud and forgeries about what I
was supposed to have said and meant sometime in the distant past.
Then, when they covert some new and naive person to help them
attack me, even when I prove this league of smear merchants the
frauds they are, it is very difficult for anyone that has been
sucked in by them to admit their mistake. As that experience is
humiliating in two respects (1) they need to openly admit they
were sucked in by con men, and (2) they need to swallow their
pride and accept the fact they were wrong about something - which
for many egos that is almost impossible to do.
Someone very wise told me "you cannot defend yourself on the
Internet as there are no rules of evidence, anyone and everyone
can lie and distort evidence, only in a court of law can you
cipher through all of the lies and distortions. " That sounds
like Sage advice, yet I am still convinced for those ethical and
objective people out there (the unethical ones do not matter)
good old-fashioned debate, a discussion and really honest
evidence still have a place on the Internet, and such can expose
con men and smear merchants for what they are. So defending
myself here is my priority, and keep in mind that I am
*responding* to attacks on me that are continuing and even
growing more shrill as I post the truth about those attacks. The
smear merchants are getting frantic that their smear campaign is
blowing back into their faces, and now even new smear merchants
are showing up under different guises, names, but all with the
precise same obvious objective, defame me with any lie, any
distortion, any forgery, any false accusation they can conjure
up.
There are more than a hundred Google archived posts that prove
(1) several different people were using the Doug Grant and
Dggrant account to post under, (2) we collectively used typists
to post off of our dictation and written notes (3) the typists
had the power to rewrite (a big mistake) and (4) there were
hundreds of forgeries posted under the dggrant name by smear
merchants, and (5) there were lots and lots of typos or ambiguous
statements due to the typists not completely understanding what
was being dictated, or said to them as they typed responses to
various posts.
..
When our teams were operational, we had about 300 people total in
the cooperative team. We would run shifts of four hours each in
the casinos, and when a team shift would return to the school in
the AC area, they had nothing to do but sit around and either
watch TV, or read what was going on in various newsgroups, and
respond or post to those newsgroups.
Out of the 300 (99% men) I would say about 50 were Vietnam Vets.
Guys would sit around the computer while the typist would open
various posts, and many of them would reply to the same, post and
sometimes a dozen would be involved in a single exchange with one
of the hate America types or casino agents. Eddie might respond
to the first statement made by a poster, and then Jason tell the
typist what to write in response to the casino agent's retort.
Sometimes there were dozens of different people all participating
in the same conversations or exchanges!
That is why it is so difficult for me to know who wrote what, and
why they wrote it. However, what I *know* I wrote and meant I
will gladly admit, and I have already done with the BB issue and
the estimated BC issue, and several other issues. But I will NOT
admit nor agree to any exchange that is a forgery, or that I did
not write or dictate, or to something I did write but was taken
out of context by some smear merchant in the past. The following
Google archived posts prove without a doubt that many different
people were using the dggrant account, we used typists to type
and arbitrarily edit. our posts, and there were hundreds perhaps
thousands of forged posts under the Doug Grant name that had
nothing to do with me, or my team.
I have just posted a sampling of google archived posts that prove
all I have said above, but there are hundreds more, and briefs
filed with various courts that state everything I am saying here,
and then some. So if you want to see more email me.
First, A google archive of Nigel's admission that he cannot be
sure who wrote what under the Doug Grant accounts:
"Nigel Brooks" <> wrote in message
news:49u2qhFqjperU1@individual.net...
"Big Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote in message
news:vf6dnSpjupr7TKTZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Pepperoni" wrote
: "!Jones" wrote
: > "Nigel Brooks" wrote:
: >
I'm betting on Dougie; any takers? I got
: > 10 Usenet-bucks says Doug trounces the newby!
: >
: > Jones
:
: I'll take 5UBs worth, but to win he has to trounce the newby
*before* he
: goes the self- destruct routine.
I'm glad this is just a game to you people.
--
Machque (Bear)
Nec Aspera Terrent
"A wannabe is someone who basks in the valor earned by
others." -Norb
Nigel Said:
Well it's not a game when the clown makes threats - but you
certainly can't
take him seriously, he's been thoroughly spanked everywhere
he's been in
usenet. A simple google of dgvreiman,
will really
tell you all you need to know about him.
Doug Says: Oh pleazzzze! Every lawsuit I have filed for libel I
have won or have received a favorable settlement. Your Google
search only produces the libel, not what happened to those that
spewed it. I posted the docket numbers of the lawsuits I filed
before, would you like to see them again?
Nigel Said:
Trouble is - you can never be sure that he was doing the
posting.. Could've
been someone on his team, or a typo by one of his typists who
didn't get his
dictation down right. Or a typist who put a Doug Grant
signature on a Dr
Profe's post in error.
Doug Says: Finally BS Brooks has admitted above that he knows
that I did not post or write or dictate all the lies and
distorions he has been claiming I did. This will look real good
in court. Off to the lawyer with this one/
Doug Grant (Tm)
--
Nigel Brooks
Note that all of these posts that mention groups using the same
account, and cooperative typists, contain dates YEARS before the
BS Brooks gang started to defame me on alt.war.vietnam.
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PROOF OF A GROUP POSTING AND MEETING AT THE SAME TIME OFF OF THE
SAME COMPUTER 1997
The RGBM vote is wrong
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Date: 1997/12/06
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In news.groups DOUGLAS REIMAN <> wrote:
: Is that why you and your friends are so desperate to hide from
real
: evidence? Why are you hiding from Sworn Affidavits and other
offers of
: proof if you think you are right?
Sworn affidavits are not computer logs/bill of AOL users
and their voting screen names, that's why?
---guy
I guess the "judge" is ignoring you too!!!
Neil Crellin Dec 6 1997, 3:00 am show options
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Date: 1997/12/06
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"DOUGLAS REIMAN" <> writes:
More "self-serving" conclusions from the boys. What Luzzi
(DeGennaro)
is
not telling you is that he knows we are a group. And that we
have
meetings. And we all vote around the same time, and post around
the
same
time.
Is there a rule against that? Of course not. So what is this
post all
about? It is about hiding the truth, and more lies from those
that gain
by
lying.
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EVEN THE CASINO AGENTS ARE POSTING THAT WE ARE USING A COMMON
TYPIST FOR THE GROUP
Newsgroups: rec.gambling.blackjack
From: (John Chandler) - Find messages by
this
author
Date: 1997/09/17
Subject: Yo, Abdul! (Was: Bye Bye Dougie Bye Bye Con)
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In article <01bcc31a$b552cdc0$89ee93cf@dg>,
DOUGLAS REIMAN <>
directed The Common Typist to write:
I have provided so much math to this group you should have it
coming out
of
your ears. But as long as you *ignore* it, I guess you can lie
and claim
you have never seen it.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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CLEAR AND CONCISE PROOF THAT I ANNOUNCED WE WERE COOPERATIVELY
USING THE SAME TYPISTS TO POST OUR POSTS AND DICTATION 1997
Newsgroups: rec.gambling.blackjack, news.groups
From: "DOUGLAS REIMAN" <> - Find messages
by
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Date: 1997/12/27
Subject: Re: I Demand RGBJ Re-Vote
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Please state where in the CFV it says a group of people cannot
use a
typist? Are you such an idiot that you do not realize that many
people find the collective use of a typist productive - or is
that
too much for you to comprehend? I know Solinas has lied about the
CFV, and they have posted the lie that a "typist" is a violation
of
the CFV. But if you want to lie and libel right along with him,
be
my guest. Just do not expect anyone to believe you no matter how
much you forge names and openly lie. One more idiot making an *****
out of himself with lies is fun, but still booring considering
your
alias fits right in with the rest.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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PROOF THAT AT LEAST 60 OTHER PEOPLE WERE USING THE SAME DOUG
GRANT ACCOUNT
Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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From: (John Chandler) - Find messages by
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Date: 1997/09/06
Subject: Re: Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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In article <5upg3i$...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
DOUGLAS REIMAN <> wrote:
Woops! I said that *I* have never used an alias. Many people use
aliases
on this newsgroup - most do in fact. I never have. I always
signed my
name with a version of Doug Grant. You and Abdul and friends
claimed that
Floyd Young (and about 50 or 60 other names) were MY aliases.
You were
trying to represent to the newbies that I was only one crazy
person that
was questioning all those fantastic system claims. You did not
want to
admit that dozens of former professional players were agreeing
with me.
So
now you have changed your story once again. I suggest you get
your
facts
straight before you post anymore self serving lies.
Doug Grant (Tm)
No Systems To Sell
PROOF THAT I SAID OFTEN THAT OUR GROUP COOPERATIVELY USED TYPISTS
TO POST OUR POSTS AND WRITE OUR DICTATION
Ah, but Doug did say that he and others "share the same typist."
What's the story there?
Who is the typist?
How do they share him or her?
Exactly what does that phrase mean?
(Of course Doug won't reply. He never replies to tough
or embarassing questions.)
--
John Chandler
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ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT I SAID THAT I AND THE LFP'S WERE ALL USING
THE SAME TYPISTS TO POST UNDER THE DOUG GRANT ACCOUNT
DOUGLAS REIMAN Sep 7 1997, 3:00 am show options
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From: "DOUGLAS REIMAN" <> - Find messages
by
this author
Date: 1997/09/07
Subject: Re: Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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This question certainly is not tough or embarrasing. I have
already
answered it several times. A typist is someone who types. You
should
know
that - check your speller or call your mommy - she will explain
it to you.
I must say that I am getting tired of baby-sitting some on this
newsgroup.
If you do not know the meaning of a particiular word, then ask
someone
else
or look it up. Sheesh what wimps!
Doug Grant and LFP's
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MORE PROOF WE WERE USING TYPISTS TO POST OUR DICTATION AND
RETORTS IN EXCHANGES
Grativo Sep 7 1997, 3:00 am show options
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Date: 1997/09/07
Subject: Re: Abdul, Moderated, Jimske, EC Davis, Pref Shuff
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Then answer me this, o the sage of RGB unmoderated.
1. how do you and your "teammembers" send messages to your
typist? Do you
hand write out all the replies beforehand? Since the
"sockpuppets" who
claim not to be you claimed to live in different states, do you
constantly
fax hand written notes to your typist?
2. how much does the typist make from typing up your messages?
3. if you bother of answer question 1 and 2 above, why do you
have to hire
a typist in the first place? Couldn't you save money just by
typing the
messages yourself? Do you know how to type?
4. I demand to know the real name and address of your typist. I
may have
some business for him.
Grativo
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ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING FORGERIES OF ALL KINDS
AND DESCRIPTIONS
Dggrant and Other Forgeries:
From: "Paul Yannessa" <pyanne...@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups:
rec.gambling.blackjack References:
<tKpz6.11375$rk4.885838@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
<3ACE5AE4.40A95BC0@lvegas.com>
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Subject: Re: Death Threat Re: Cyberstalking Law Enforcement [1/2]
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18:13:53 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Not only forging our
names but now Judge Irenas' name? AINT HE DUMB?? Paul Yannessa
DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN <> wrote in message
news:7fwz6.11380$IJ1.964733@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
"Please die or be killed soon" is what I received by posting a
specific and detailed report on cyberstalking from the
Attorney
General's offfice. Moreover, this con man forged a Federal
Judge's > name (Judge Irenas) to the death threat. > > Now how
many of you truty want to involve yourselves with this > obvious
criminal? If you cannot see what is going on from this very >
post, then you deserve to be prosecuted right along with this con
man. > > Doug Grant (Tm) > > "Thomas Bolick" <tbol...@pil.net>
wrote in message >
news:lauz6.1081$4e.276510@newshog.newsread.com... > > No, allow
me. > > Doug wrote: > > I have posted the recent Law Enforcement
flyer on Cyberstalking sent > > to various law enforcement
agencies in 1999. Since that time almost > > all 50 states have
enacted very specific penalties for > cyberstalking. > > > > Note
that cyberstalking is defined as (1) harassing people on the > >
internet (2) using forgeries of a persons name or email name for
harassment or ridicule, and several other features that are
being > > directed towards me by the con men on a daily basis. >
Note: Not only are there at least six different locations that
can be identified by these posts, there are not less than 58
*recorded* Google posts that deal with Doug Grant forgeries,
there are over 65 archived Google posts that deal with the fact I
have advised all that we use cooperative accounts and typists.
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Doug Grant Forgeries Being Used Mentioned.
From: "DougGrant" <> Subject: $100,000
challenge fake names Date: 1999/04/08 Message-ID:
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Apr 1999 13:41:04 GMT Newsgroups:
rec.gambling.blackjack Considering I have never used a fake name
or a fake user ID, you seem to be misinfomed.. However, I have
read about a dozen forgeries of my name used by the con men. They
forge my name, and then accuse me and everyone else of doing what
they do everyday, and that is use fake names and fake user ID's.
If anyone would like to make a qick $100,000 then all they need
to do is sue and dispute what I am saying. Once in court, the
judge can issue orders that will force the ISP's to reveal the
account names. I think the time has come for all to understand
that there are legal ways to cut the *****. It is time for the
con men to put up or admit they are lying. Doug Grant (Tm)
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Forgeries and Threats Being Used Mentioned.
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casino rip-off sites >: lately. We know that some of the other
casino agents, system >: hucksters and con men are involved in
these cons. If you are receiving spam >: email from these on-line
casinos, or if you are receiving sexual >: solicitations or kiddy
porn from some of the con men that post under fake >: names on
this newsgroup, please let me know. We know that several posters
: have received kiddy porn and death threats from these con men
when the >: poster agreed with the fact that casinos are cheating
when they use the >: preferential shuffle, or that card counting
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Forgeries and Fabrications mentioned under the Doug Grant Dggrant
name.
AMAZING NEWS FOR CON MEN
... > Date: 12/26/98 12:54 PM
Central Standard Time
Message-id: <763bda$oa5@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> More
forgeries and fabrications ...
rec.gambling.blackjack - Dec 28 1998, 7:47 pm by dggrant -
223 messages - 26 authors
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FORGERIES POSTED UNDER THE DDGRANT NAME TO ENDORSE PRODUCTS
From: "DGGRANT" <> Newsgroups:
rec.gambling.blackjack References:
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02:03:45 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet See below: "Bing"
<b...@paxentertainment.com> wrote in message
news:3ac11357.23101843@news.fu-berlin.de... > On Tue, 27 Mar 2001
01:59:35 GMT, "DGGRANT" <> > wrote: > > >
No one cares what you claim since you do > > not advertise
on-line casinos. > > Interesting. For years you blather on and on
how no > one will believe me since I am obviously an agent > of
this or that casino and huckster. > > Now, you say nobody will
believe me because I > am NOT affiliated with them. BingoBilly is
posting excerpts from posts out of context or non existent. Now
if this con man could win, do you think he would be lying and
conning the readers of this newsgroup with obvious cut and past
out of context con man jargon? It is easy to prove BingoBilly is
lying and conning. Simply go back and read the post he is
referencing, or email me and I will send it to you. This is a
well-known pathetic con man tactic that has been used since the
days of the traveling flim-flam men. They love to try and use
forgeries and out-of-context statements as a fraudulent
testimonial of their acumen or snake oil products.
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PROOF OF DGGRANT FORGERIES POSTED BY THE GUY WHO LIED ABOUT THE
LAWSUIT CONCLUSION (AND IS STILL LYING ABOUT IT TODAY) AND WAS
QUOTED AND REFERENCED BY THE BS BROOKS GANG SEVERAL TIMES
From: "DGGRANT" <> Newsgroups:
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<> writes:
Apparently Rusty has decided to forge my name some more. Does he
really think he will get away with trying to con the readers of
this
newsgroup with outright forgeries? Would he need to resort to
criminal activity if his preposterous claims that card counting
can
win were true?
Doug
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OFFICAL COMPLAINTS TO AT&T ABOUT DGGRANT FORGERIES
From: "DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN" <>
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Ref my post: I see you are adding in all of your forgeries and
other forgeries also in your tally. I must wonder why you guys
are so desperate that you need to use cyberstalking and name
forgeries? Can't you simply prove your hype systems can win like
I have been asking? Don't you think the newbies can see through
all of your pathetic attempts to defame me and others that are
telling the truth about your con game of claiming losing systems
are winners (like card counting)? What's the matter, are the
suckers starting to catch on? Are they starting to ask for proof
before they buy one of your snake oil systems or software? Or,
could it be the illegal online casinos that are kicking you back
up to 50% of what your suckers lose have stopped sending out
checks? Too bad. But regardless of all your whimpering and
whining, begging and panic attacks, I do not intend to stop
posting the truth on these newsgroups. We all know that you are
clearly panic stricken to hide my posts. If not why go to all
this bother to lie, con and use cyberstalking and malicious libel
to attack anyone that simply is telling the truth about how card
counting has been proved a loser against real world casinos. Doug
Grant (Tm) "Doug Grant"
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"Jim McCulloch" <mccull...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote in message
news:BAB37579.6E7C8%mcculloch@mail.utexas.edu...
in article
7emja.45766$ja4.2825...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
DGVREIMAN at wrote on 4/4/03 2:50 PM:
Doug Says: HAHAHAHA. Please Jimmy stop the self-serving and
obvious distortions of what I said. I said "The Lieutenants
and
Captains are usually only in the Military for two or less
years"
Yes. That's what you said. That's what I quoted. And that is
incorrect.
So how could someone who actually served in the Army _and_ the
Marines, make
such a mistake? Very puzzling.
Doug Says: Jimmy, you have been caught lying again. Now you are
lying in every post. That is not what I said, and when you
reposted the post that fact was clear. Now if you are going to
distort what I say, then lie about what I say, and then question
your own lies, those are questions that you need to answer
yourself. Why would someone want to distort what I say,
obviously distort it, and then try to use their own distortions
to try and discredit or ridicule someone? Why would you want to
do that Jimmy? Very puzzling. See below for what Jimmy is
trying to hide, and what he snipped out.
Doug Says: HAHAHAHA. Please Jimmy stop the self-serving and
obvious distortions of what I said. I said "The Lieutenants
and
Captains are
usually only in the Military for two or less years to make
their ranks" not that
they STAY in the military for only two years or less like you
are
clearly distorting. See what happens when I make you repost
what
I say in context Jimmy? Your distorted ***** becomes
apparent
to us all. . When I was in the Army a Captain made Captain in
TWO YEARS OR LESS! So the Liutenants and Captains only had a
"two years or less of service" when they took command. A 2nd
Liutenant is given command of a platoon right out of OCS or
West
Point, and I assure you that they are broken in by the Senior
NCO's in the platoon before they take full command. That is
the
way it was in Vietnam, and the fact you are not aware of that
common process is just more evidence that you know absolutely
nothing of what you are talking about.
The tough, grizzled top sergeant giving a well deserved
chewing-out to a
callow 2nd lieutenant is the stuff of movies, but in real
life
was, and is,
insubordination, and would result in disciplinary action
against the first
sergeant, no matter how to senior. Of course a senior NCO
would
not be so
foolish as to give orders to an officer, no matter how
junior.
Doug Says: Jimmy you are absolutely nuts. 2nd Lieutenants are
normally smart enough to know they are going to take direction
from the Senior NCO's in the platoon even before their own men
will accept them as in command. This is standard information
provided in OCS, and most 2nd Lieutenants *want* their senior
NCOs to show them the ropes before they start giving orders
that
will get everyone killed. Do you really believe that in a
combat situation, a 2nd Lt., directly out of OCS, with perhaps
less than one year in service is going to take total control of
a
combat platoon of men away from senior NCO that have years of
combat experience? If you do, then you much dumber than you
sound, if that is possible. The worst thing a 2nd Lt., could
do
is give some stupid order and have it openly countermanded by a
senior NCO to save the lives of the platoon. So the
Lieutenants
wisely take a few weeks and allow the NCO's to show them the
ropes before taking command. There are exceptions, such as a
2nd
Lt., that was commissioned from the NCO ranks, but for the most
part a 2nd Lt., is broken in by the senior NCO's in the
platoon.
Jimmy, you are an idiot when it comes to this topic. You were
a
member of the SDS terrorist organization, and perhaps that is
the
way it worked in your terrorist organization, but in the Army
during the Vietnam war, it worked just the way I said it did.
You have been caught distorting and lying to the group yet
AGAIN
Jimmy? HAHAHAHAHAHA. When will you ever learn?
The business about field grade officers not being "required"
to
go "ever"
into combat is in principle also nonsense. If the colonel of
the regiment
orders Major Smith to accompany his battalion into combat,
Major Smith is
"required" to do go. Never happened? Well, about 9 percent of
officer deaths
in the Army in Vietnam were field grade officers. Some of
them
were acting
under orders, and, we have to presume, not all of them were
accidentally and
fatally impaled on punji stakes while out for a stroll in the
evening.
Doug Says: Jimmy, you idiot, where are you getting your
figures?
I was a NCO in Vietnam and I have never seen a Major or above
holding a rifle and leading
ground troops in combat in Vietnam. They might be flying
around
in a Helicopter, or in the rear in a command center, but down
on
the ground it is Captains and below that are actually leading
the
troops into a firefight...and usually never even a Captain.
When
troops first arrived in Vietnam there were cases of field
grades
leading ground operations, but as a rule, they NEVER lead
troops
in combat. They might come in during a battle to review or
asertain the effects of the operation, or after a battle, but
leading a fight on the ground with a rifle? No way, very
unusual. They are not that stupid Jimmy, they know they are
the
first target of the enemy.
Let me remind you Jimmy that you worked for some Texas
University. You were in the SDS terrorist organization that
murdering Americans and hated Vietnam vets, and you were
obviously never in the US Miltiary during combat operations in
Vietnam. You do not know anything about combat service, and
you
certainly were not in Vietnam nor in combat. Your information
is
goofy, stupid and not even close to being the truth. You are
doing nothing more than lying and make ridicilous statments
that
I, who has years of military service and 2&1/2 tours of duty in
Vietnam, know is utter *****.
Happy now, Doug?
Doug Says: Yep, very happy Jimmy. You have managed to make a
complete and utter fool out of yourself again, along with being
caught in a clear attempt to distort what I said. Yep, I must
say I am very very happy Jimmy.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Best regards,
--Jim McCulloch
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STATEMENT ABOUT GROUP USING THE SAME DGGRANT ACCOUNT
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Date: 1998/07/30
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BRubin7878 wrote:
Subject: Re: INTERNET GAMBLING DOOMED!
From: "DGGRANT"
Strange the courts see sixty different people The lawyers for
the
casinos
see them? Their names are all listed on the face of the
official court
documents, including our lawsuit,
The courts do not see any people, they see names on a piece of
paper.
Funny, I think there were at least 30 of us that personally went
to the oral arguments. If you think no one saw us, you are wrong.
Scott Klee
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