Politics > Politics-USA > Holy Assholes launch new pro-Israel Lobbying group --- Christians United for Israel
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Holy Assholes launch new pro-Israel Lobbying group --- Christians United for Israel |
POLITICS-US:
Evangelicals Rally Their Flocks Behind Israel
Bill Berkowitz*
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32779
OAKLAND, California, Apr 5 (IPS) - Charismatic televangelist John
Hagee thinks that the Rev. Pat Robertson's suggestion that Israeli
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was payback from God for
withdrawing from Gaza was "insensitive and unnecessary". But he
nevertheless appears to share Robertson's concern that Israel may be
giving up too much land to the Palestinians.
To prevent the George W. Bush administration from pressuring the
Israelis into turning over even more land, Hagee, the pastor of San
Antonio's Cornerstone Church and the head of a multi-million-dollar
evangelical enterprise, recently brought together 400 Christian
evangelical leaders -- representing as many as 30 million Christians
-- for an invitation-only "Summit on Israel".
The result was the launch of a new pro-Israel lobbying group called
Christians United for Israel (CUFI).
By 2002, a number of veteran Christian conservative evangelical
leaders and Republican Party power brokers had joined forces with
conservative Jewish leaders to launch several pro-Israel
organisations. But the history of Jewish-evangelical involvement goes
back several decades.
According to Rabbi James Rudin, writing in his recently published
book, "The Baptising of America: The Religious Right's Plans for the
Rest of U.S.," "the first [modern] evangelical-Jewish meeting" took
place in New York in 1975.
A bevy of issues including "the meaning of Messiah in both traditions,
Jesus the Jew, biblical theology and the meaning of modern Israel and
Jerusalem for Christian conservatives and Jews" were discussed.
Rudin points out that "the evangelical commitment to Israel creates
some... ambivalence" in the Jewish community, since that "commitment"
is built on the biblical belief that "without an Israel, an
ingathering of Jewish exiles, [the] major event in Christian
eschatology [the Second coming of Jesus to Jerusalem] cannot take
place."
"That is why some evangelicals are dismayed at any Israeli withdrawal
or disengagement from any area of the biblical 'Holy Land.' That is
also why the strong Christian conservative support of Israel is not
linked to Middle East realpolitik or America's growing thirst for Arab
oil," Rudin says.
Although not as well known on the national political scene as some of
his evangelical brethren, Hagee has built an impressive evangelical
empire and developed strong political ties to the Republican Party.
Since his 1978 "conversion" to Zionism, he has emphasised establishing
and maintaining good relations with Israeli leaders and conservative
sectors of the U.S. Jewish community. Over the years he has met with
Israeli heads of state and carved out a special relationship with
former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose Likud Party
performed dismally in the recent elections in Israel.
"Think of CUFI as a Christian version of American Israel Public
Affairs Committee (AIPAC)," the powerful pro-Israel lobby, Hagee told
The Jerusalem Post in an interview a few days before his February
summit. "We need to be able to respond instantly to Washington with
our concerns about Israel. We must join forces to speak as one group
and move as one body to [respond to] the crisis Israel will be facing
in the near future."
While Hagee wouldn't spell out which particular crisis he was
concerned with, he did tell the Israeli newspaper that "'the Bible
issue', namely what he considers to be the mistaken policy of trading
parts of the biblical Land of Israel for peace", was at the top of
CUFI's list.
"Every state in the Union, every congressional district" will be
accounted for, Hagee added.
A post-meeting report at the John Hagee Ministries website said that
Christians United for Israel had put together a national board
consisting of Hagee as national chairman, fundamentalist minister
Jerry Falwell, Gary Bauer, president of American Values, and Pastor
George Morrison of Arvada, Colorado.
Christians United for Israel intends to establish a 50-state
rapid-response network that aims to reach every senator and
congressman in the U.S. The organisation is also concerned with
"protecting marriage, family and faith", Haaretz, an Israeli
newspaper, reported.
Rabbi Aryeh Scheinberg of San Antonio's Congregation Rodfei Sholom
attended the meeting and called it a historic gathering. Scheinberg
told the San Antonio Express-News that "It's the first nationwide
effort I know of to unify evangelical leaders in support of Israel.
These leaders who participated speak for millions of people. This
organisation has phenomenal potential in supporting, defending and
advocating for Israel."
Pastor Hagee and Rabbi Scheinberg go way back. In a story entitled
"Our Jewish Roots" published in JHMagazine, Hagee tells of a June 1978
visit to Israel where he "went ... as a tourist and came home a
Zionist." When he returned home he decided to organise "A Night to
Honour Israel." According to Hagee's account, Rabbi Scheinberg
"pressed the Jewish Community into taking a chance and extending its
hand in mutual friendship."
The rabbi, pictured with Hagee in several photographs in JHMagazine,
delivered the benediction at the first "A Night to Honour Israel"
event in 1981, and has been a regular participant ever since.
Members of CUFI intend to meet with "legislators in Washington for two
days in July to tell them about the organisation and its platform, and
express their support for Israel," according to Haaretz. In addition,
the "A Night to Honor Israel" event will be expanded and held in
several cities simultaneously.
CUFI's website maintains that the group was founded "to provide a
national organisation through which every pro-Israel organisation and
ministry in America can speak and act with one voice in support of
Israel in matters related to Biblical issues".
"We see Christians in the United States as true friends and important
supporters on the basis of shared values, and we welcome their efforts
to strengthen the ties between Israel and the U.S.," said Israeli
Ambassador to the United States Danny Ayalon.
In addition to running San Antonio's well-attended Cornerstone Church,
Hagee heads up the multimillion-dollar evangelism enterprise called
Global Evangelism Television. Over four decades, members of his
ministry have donated millions to carry out his mission.
Global Evangelism Television has become a massive money-making family
enterprise which brings in millions of dollars year after year by
selling inspirational books, tapes and the promise of prosperity.
Hagee is the author of a number of books including "Attack on America
-- New York, Jerusalem, and the role of Terrorism in the Last Days",
and "The Beginning of the End -- The Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin
and the Coming Antichrist". His latest non-fiction book is called
"Jerusalem Countdown -- A Warning to the World", which landed on
best-seller lists.
The new book posits that "biblical prophecy is playing itself out
daily in the Middle East," Agape Press, a Christian-based news
service, reported. "Hagee says Iran's new president, coupled with...
[the] victory by terrorist-backed Hamas in the Palestinian elections,
paves the way for an impending war in the region."
In addition to spearheading the launch of Christians United for
Israel, and appearing on a panel at the recent National Religious
Broadcasters convention, Hagee has aligned himself with a number of
Christian right evangelicals that condemned the Evangelical Climate
Initiative, signed by 86 evangelical leaders acknowledging the
seriousness of global warming and pledging to press for legislation to
limit carbon dioxide emissions.
*Bill Berkowitz is a longtime observer of the conservative movement.
His WorkingForChange column "Conservative Watch" documents the
strategies, players, institutions, victories and defeats of the U.S.
Right. (END/2006)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32779
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06 Apr 2006 08:52:36 AM |
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(can_o_worms) wrote in
news:1a4a325898jtd24gjdgi7os8e58o0vsb03@4ax.com:
Rudin points out that "the evangelical commitment to Israel creates
some... ambivalence" in the Jewish community, since that
"commitment" is built on the biblical belief that "without an
Israel, an ingathering of Jewish exiles, [the] major event in
Christian eschatology [the Second coming of Jesus to Jerusalem]
cannot take place."
After a few more years without the world ending, I'm sure they'll get
bored and go back to their old ways and start killing Jews again.
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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| User: "can_o_worms" |
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06 Apr 2006 06:34:03 PM |
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On 06 Apr 2006 13:52:36 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
can_o_worms@bogus.com (can_o_worms) wrote in
news:1a4a325898jtd24gjdgi7os8e58o0vsb03@4ax.com:
Rudin points out that "the evangelical commitment to Israel creates
some... ambivalence" in the Jewish community, since that
"commitment" is built on the biblical belief that "without an
Israel, an ingathering of Jewish exiles, [the] major event in
Christian eschatology [the Second coming of Jesus to Jerusalem]
cannot take place."
After a few more years without the world ending, I'm sure they'll get
bored and go back to their old ways and start killing Jews again.
I doubt if that's gonna happen in the U.S. though.......at least not
Zionist Jews anyway. A Zionist Jew is a "good Jew" insofar as
Zionist Fundies are concerned......unlike those pesky left wing
"commie/socialist" Noam Chomsky/Seymore Hersh types
which they'd gladly kill if they were allowed.
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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| Title: Re: Holy Assholes launch new pro-Israel Lobbying group --- Christians United for Israel |
06 Apr 2006 06:41:47 PM |
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In news:1n8b32dtncr0ouop21hvogp64g1jpavgm6@4ax.com can_o_worms
<can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:
A Zionist Jew is a "good Jew" insofar as
Zionist Fundies are concerned......
Only so long as they're thinking that the "End Times" are about to start and
that the Israelis are cooperating by fulfilling prophecies.
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| User: "can_o_worms" |
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06 Apr 2006 07:04:03 PM |
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On 06 Apr 2006 23:41:47 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
In news:1n8b32dtncr0ouop21hvogp64g1jpavgm6@4ax.com can_o_worms
<can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:
A Zionist Jew is a "good Jew" insofar as
Zionist Fundies are concerned......
Only so long as they're thinking that the "End Times" are about to start and
that the Israelis are cooperating by fulfilling prophecies.
Well, if we keep picking at the Middle East like we have done
lately: They just might just get their way........some more.
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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06 Apr 2006 07:38:44 PM |
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:04:03 -0500, can_o_worms wrote:
On 06 Apr 2006 23:41:47 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
In news:1n8b32dtncr0ouop21hvogp64g1jpavgm6@4ax.com can_o_worms
<can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:
A Zionist Jew is a "good Jew" insofar as
Zionist Fundies are concerned......
Only so long as they're thinking that the "End Times" are about to start and
that the Israelis are cooperating by fulfilling prophecies.
Well, if we keep picking at the Middle East like we have done
lately: They just might just get their way........some more.
Stop giving them so much creedence, they're just crazymotherfuckers.
Their power comes from forcing others to read/acknowledge/respond to their
agenda. Just ignore the crazymotherfuckrs.
-- Regards, Curly
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Time to dust off the guillotine
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| User: "can_o_worms" |
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06 Apr 2006 08:03:02 PM |
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:38:44 -0700, Curly Surmudgeon
<curly@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:04:03 -0500, can_o_worms wrote:
On 06 Apr 2006 23:41:47 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
In news:1n8b32dtncr0ouop21hvogp64g1jpavgm6@4ax.com can_o_worms
<can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote:
A Zionist Jew is a "good Jew" insofar as
Zionist Fundies are concerned......
Only so long as they're thinking that the "End Times" are about to start and
that the Israelis are cooperating by fulfilling prophecies.
Well, if we keep picking at the Middle East like we have done
lately: They just might just get their way........some more.
Stop giving them so much creedence, they're just crazymotherfuckers.
Their power comes from forcing others to read/acknowledge/respond to their
agenda. Just ignore the crazymotherfuckrs.
-- Regards, Curly
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Time to dust off the guillotine
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Oh I disagree Curly
Zionist fundies are a large and influential voting bloc and have
already played somewhat a part in hobbling Middle East peace
missions such as the short lived one by General Anthony Zinni.
Junior might seem to dismiss much that meddling pro-Israel
fundies say, in the public forum, but they get results alright.
I haven't seen anyone in the Bush administration criticize
the Israelis since Colin Powell left.
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| User: "Sheldon Levine The Machine" |
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06 Apr 2006 10:23:47 AM |
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POLITICS-US:
Evangelicals Rally Their Flocks Behind Israel
Bill Berkowitz*
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32779
OAKLAND, California, Apr 5 (IPS) - Charismatic televangelist John
Hagee thinks that the Rev. Pat Robertson's suggestion that Israeli
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was payback from God for
withdrawing from Gaza was "insensitive and unnecessary". But he
nevertheless appears to share Robertson's concern that Israel may be
giving up too much land to the Palestinians.
If it is true that Bush has adapted US policy towards the fulfillment of
prophecy, and the above statement sure sounds like he has, then he should be
arrested immediately. Can you imagine anything more irresponsible than a
politician ruling from specious pages of the "Bible" ***** opposed to The
Constitution?
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06 Apr 2006 06:56:03 PM |
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:23:47 -0700, Sheldon Levine <The Machine> wrote:
POLITICS-US:
Evangelicals Rally Their Flocks Behind Israel
Bill Berkowitz*
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32779
OAKLAND, California, Apr 5 (IPS) - Charismatic televangelist John
Hagee thinks that the Rev. Pat Robertson's suggestion that Israeli
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was payback from God for
withdrawing from Gaza was "insensitive and unnecessary". But he
nevertheless appears to share Robertson's concern that Israel may be
giving up too much land to the Palestinians.
If it is true that Bush has adapted US policy towards the fulfillment of
prophecy, and the above statement sure sounds like he has, then he should be
arrested immediately. Can you imagine anything more irresponsible than a
politician ruling from specious pages of the "Bible" ***** opposed to The
Constitution?
Yeah, if I thought that Junior was sincere in his religious beliefs
but I'm much more of a cynic than to think that of a politico on
the national scene.
You don't get to be a President without claiming to be such though.
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06 Apr 2006 09:32:01 AM |
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can_o_worms <can_o_worms@bogus.com> wrote in
news:1a4a325898jtd24gjdgi7os8e58o0vsb03@4ax.com:
The result was the launch of a new pro-Israel lobbying group called
Christians United for Israel (CUFI).
Well isn't THAT a relief - Israel is just SO under-represented in the
lobbying community. Lemme guess - their logo is a bulldozer.
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