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"Orion" |
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11 Jul 2004 10:15:40 PM |
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Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
In the event of "terrorism" we must protect the sheeple...
Looks like grub figured out a way to stay King of America..
Time to wake up people!!!!
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| User: "gruhn" |
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26 Jul 2004 12:58:06 PM |
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Looks like grub figured out a way to stay King of America..
I've been hearing "and I'm betting <current President> will suspend
elections" for I'm not sure how many cycles now. It's just a piece of
***** the "our Team isn't in Jackboots" crowd pull out of their asses
every election. Probably been going on since George Washington. I'm not
impressed.
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| User: "Strabo" |
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26 Jul 2004 08:16:37 PM |
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In Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections on Mon, 26 Jul
2004 10:58:06 -0700, by gruhn, we read:
Looks like grub figured out a way to stay King of America..
I've been hearing "and I'm betting <current President> will suspend
elections" for I'm not sure how many cycles now. It's just a piece of
***** the "our Team isn't in Jackboots" crowd pull out of their asses
every election. Probably been going on since George Washington. I'm not
impressed.
Bush and company went so far as to publically propose a law...
The negative response may have killed the idea.
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| User: "Strider" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
11 Jul 2004 10:42:03 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 03:15:40 GMT, "Orion" <mark.bender@syntegra.com>
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In the event of "terrorism" we must protect the sheeple...
Looks like grub figured out a way to stay King of America..
Time to wake up people!!!!
If we take up a collection and get as much as a quarter will you go
call someone who give a ***** about your assinine opinion?
Strider
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| User: "PagCal" |
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12 Jul 2004 05:03:17 AM |
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Here's the facts:
US officials consider postponing November elections over terror attacks
American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming"
intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this
fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of
the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.
Newsweek [US], 11 July 2004
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5411741/site/newsweek/
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| User: "Bob" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:10:10 AM |
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"PagCal" <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:10f4of9ih60h8b3@corp.supernews.com...
Here's the facts:
US officials consider postponing November elections over terror attacks
American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming"
intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this
fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of
the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.
Do you see a problem with planning
in case an event like this takes place?
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| User: "Jeff McCann" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
12 Jul 2004 06:05:10 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:U4wIc.34694$jJ3.24062@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"PagCal" <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:10f4of9ih60h8b3@corp.supernews.com...
Here's the facts:
US officials consider postponing November elections over terror
attacks
American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call
"alarming"
intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States
this
fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement
of
the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.
Do you see a problem with planning
in case an event like this takes place?
Why cancel elections nationwide? Why not let county election
supervisors, if their county is a state or federally declared disaster
area, determine whether or not local conditions preclude opening polling
stations?
It would be possible then to delay vote reporting from that state of
federal and presidential results for a reasonable time until the vote
can be counted from every precinct in that state. Absentee ballots can
also be distributed to the affected area through the normal channels of
disaster relief operations. Two weeks or a month is sufficient time,
and would not unreasonably delay determination of the outcome.
This is consistent with the American principle of local control of
polling. The current plan vests power in Presidential political
appointees. If LA gets hit by a string of terrorist attacks on
Saturday, why shouldn't voters in Chicago be able to go to their polls
on Tuesday? We've held elections during wars, including the War of
Northern Aggression (American Civil War), during periods of military
occupation and martial law (district of Hawaii, WWII) and other crises.
Why should local terrorist attacks force us to delay voting nation-wide?
I don't think it should.
I think the issue in the back of some minds is that the train bombings
in Spain caused some voters to reject the conservative party in office,
turning the government over to the liberal party. Many folks are afraid
that could happen here.
Jeff
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| User: "" |
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12 Jul 2004 04:35:06 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message news:<U4wIc.34694
Do you see a problem with planning
in case an event like this takes place?
One one hand it could lead to a lot of abuse, on the other hand
sometimes we must take measures to ensure elections, but also what
would cause the terrorists to simply change their plans? This is
risky ground we are trodding on. Even Lincoln was elected on
schedule.
Steve
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| User: "Ignoramus32482" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:25:07 AM |
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In article <U4wIc.34694$jJ3.24062@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Bob wrote:
"PagCal" <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message
news:10f4of9ih60h8b3@corp.supernews.com...
Here's the facts:
US officials consider postponing November elections over terror attacks
American counterterrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming"
intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this
fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of
the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.
Do you see a problem with planning
in case an event like this takes place?
Try to recall the "antrax" scare, where anthrax powder from a US
miitary lab was mailed to democratic leaders and various and sundry
places, which was very disruptive. Much noise was made about "anthrax
terrorist danger", then it turned out that the anthrax powder came
from a US military lab, a contractor that worked with the CIA, and
then the investigation fizzled.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/16/213229.shtml
``WASHINGTON -- Genetic fingerprinting indicates that the anthrax
spores mailed to Capitol Hill are identical to stocks of the bacteria
maintained by the U.S. Army for more than two decades, according to a
published report Sunday. ... The FBI's investigation into the anthrax
attacks is increasingly focusing on whether U.S. government bioweapons
research programs, including one conducted by the CIA, may have been
the source of the deadly anthrax powder sent through the mail, sources
with knowledge of the probe said to the Post.''
Once you recall that, you may realize that it is not hard to create a
"disruption in the election process" and stay in power for just a
little longer.
Think about it, elections in Iraq are scheduled to occur soon after
the US elections are scheduled. Maybe the current war ideologues hold
misguided hope that after Iraq elections, the violence would
subside. So, they would only benefit from a "disruption" in the
election process to give Bush a little more time to "really win in
Iraq", and then face US elections. Completely delusional thinking,
but, not implausible.
Always ask yourself "who benefits".
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| User: "Kurt Weber" |
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12 Jul 2004 04:24:12 PM |
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"Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote in message
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On the off chance that elections were to be "postponed," I still would
insist that Bush's term ends on Jan. 20, 2005 as mandated by the
Constitution. I think there is a period of several weeks before the
new Congress would normally begin, so the current Speaker of the
House could constitutionally assume the presidency for that short
period. I am loathe to even consider allowing the president to
postpone the election, but if we were to allow it we must not reward
him by allowing him to stay in office indefinitely.
Are you saying that the terms of Congressmen, then, should not end?
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Kurt Weber
kmw@armory.com
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| User: "Syme" |
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12 Jul 2004 05:37:57 PM |
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"Kurt Weber" <kmw@armory.com> wrote...
Are you saying that the terms of Congressmen, then, should not end?
No. Actually, I had it wrong. The new Congress meets before the new
president is inaugurated (e.g. Jan. 3 vs. Jan 20). So if the election
were postponed the old Congress would still be in place on Jan. 20,
and without a new election to legitimize its members, there would be
no Speaker of the House available to assume the presidency. I thought
it was the other way around; if so, then the old Speaker of the House
would still legitimately hold office on and shortly after Jan. 20 and
could assume the presidency. But no new Congress can meet without an
election, and their terms are fixed at 2 years (for House), thus if
there is no election they become illegitimate come Jan. ~3, 2005.
All of this is completely unprecedented. Just like Bush's "win" in
2000 by ruling of the Supreme Court was unprecedented. While part of
our system is constitutional, part of it is based on tradition, and
I've never seen any other president challenge two centuries of
tradition the way Bush has. While the Supreme Court ruling in 2000
was not technically unconstitutional, it was unprecedented and very
UNtraditional. Even Abraham Lincoln, who essentially suspended most
of the Constitution from 1861-1865, never even considered postponing
the 1864 election; though one might say 1864 was suspect, as half the
states were excluded from participating (the South), and Lincoln
fastracked admission of Nevada to the Union on Oct. 31, 1864 to get
an additional 3 Electoral Votes (Nevada's tiny population would
normally have made it unacceptable for admission). But even though
he acted just like a dictator, Lincoln still never even considered
canceling that election because the November election was so
traditional.
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| User: "William Vojak" |
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14 Jul 2004 01:20:35 AM |
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"Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote in news:arCdnTw8HuZaj27dRVn-vg@bravo.net:
While the Supreme Court ruling in 2000
was not technically unconstitutional, it was unprecedented
All the Supreme Court said was that if you were going
to do a re-count in FL, they had to re-count all of
the districts, and not just the ones that were pro-Gore,
which is what the Dems wanted to do. If they were that
sure that they had really won Florida, then what's the
problem with re-counting ALL the districts. . .
If you want unprecedented, what about all those military
ballots that the Dems had thrown out by the FL court.
Bill Vojak
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| User: "Gunner" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:19:10 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:37:57 -0500, "Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote:
All of this is completely unprecedented. Just like Bush's "win" in
2000 by ruling of the Supreme Court was unprecedented.
Unprecidented how? By SCOTUS slapping down the Florida Supreme Courts
attempt to change law after an election illegally? Or by having a
president elected by the electorial college? Hardly Both have been
done several times.
However..the whimpering and whining by the Left, while not
unprecidented..is unprecidented in its agony and volume.
Deal with it little man. FInd a 12 step program or something.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:54:55 PM |
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from gunner:
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell..."
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George Orwell...he was British, wasn't he?
Nobody over there has any rifles hanging around their cottages anymore,
thanks to the international liberal movement, socialist movement, communist
movement, Democrat party movement...
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| User: "Gunner" |
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13 Jul 2004 01:25:29 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:54:55 GMT, "Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net>
wrote:
from gunner:
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell..."
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George Orwell...he was British, wasn't he?
Indeed he was.
Nobody over there has any rifles hanging around their cottages anymore,
thanks to the international liberal movement, socialist movement, communist
movement, Democrat party movement...
Ayup.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Gunner" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:08:59 PM |
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On 12 Jul 2004 17:20:06 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <bmg5f0d7isrlfm6q9qu88p93fhi175htuc@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On 12 Jul 2004 13:25:07 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
So, they would only benefit from a "disruption" in the
election process to give Bush a little more time to "really win in
Iraq", and then face US elections. Completely delusional thinking,
but, not implausible.
Always ask yourself "who benefits".
i
Id have to say the Left would benefit in a big way if this would
occur. It would give them mucho ammunition against Bush politically
and publicly. If I were Bush, Id be damned sure that the elections
went on, on time.
Well, you are not Bush, he may think that 2-3 months would make so
much difference in his election standing, that it could be worth for
him to do it.
i
And monkeys may fly out your *****. I notice the Lieberal use of the
term May throughout your posts. It would appear your hatred and biases
make you live in a rich fantasy world. Well...its cheaper than
drugs, though the brain damage appears to be similar.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Adam Russell" |
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12 Jul 2004 09:44:08 PM |
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"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:ied6f0d5nn6c7dgj48dapv9i9m9jl8u169@4ax.com...
On 12 Jul 2004 17:20:06 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <bmg5f0d7isrlfm6q9qu88p93fhi175htuc@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On 12 Jul 2004 13:25:07 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
So, they would only benefit from a "disruption" in the
election process to give Bush a little more time to "really win in
Iraq", and then face US elections. Completely delusional thinking,
but, not implausible.
Always ask yourself "who benefits".
i
Id have to say the Left would benefit in a big way if this would
occur. It would give them mucho ammunition against Bush politically
and publicly. If I were Bush, Id be damned sure that the elections
went on, on time.
Well, you are not Bush, he may think that 2-3 months would make so
much difference in his election standing, that it could be worth for
him to do it.
i
And monkeys may fly out your *****. I notice the Lieberal use of the
term May throughout your posts. It would appear your hatred and biases
make you live in a rich fantasy world. Well...its cheaper than
drugs, though the brain damage appears to be similar.
I dont think any sane proposal would put the decision in Bush's hands.
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| User: "Ignoramus32482" |
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12 Jul 2004 08:14:17 PM |
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In article <ied6f0d5nn6c7dgj48dapv9i9m9jl8u169@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On 12 Jul 2004 17:20:06 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <bmg5f0d7isrlfm6q9qu88p93fhi175htuc@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On 12 Jul 2004 13:25:07 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
So, they would only benefit from a "disruption" in the
election process to give Bush a little more time to "really win in
Iraq", and then face US elections. Completely delusional thinking,
but, not implausible.
Always ask yourself "who benefits".
i
Id have to say the Left would benefit in a big way if this would
occur. It would give them mucho ammunition against Bush politically
and publicly. If I were Bush, Id be damned sure that the elections
went on, on time.
Well, you are not Bush, he may think that 2-3 months would make so
much difference in his election standing, that it could be worth for
him to do it.
i
And monkeys may fly out your *****. I notice the Lieberal use of the
term May throughout your posts. It would appear your hatred and biases
make you live in a rich fantasy world. Well...its cheaper than
drugs, though the brain damage appears to be similar.
When I say may, that means that I am not sure.
The anthrax incident (where US military strain of anthrax was mailed
to democratic leader Tom Daschle, amongst others) has enough air of
suspicion, that I would not put past Bush that he would try to do
something similar to win elections. All that is needed, is a few dozen
such letters mailed to a few election boards.
Do I have proof of that? Of course no.
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12 Jul 2004 08:15:39 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:51:05 -0500, "Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote:
You really must be an ignoramus to think that a president who exercised
UNPRECEDENTED authority to postpone a national election wouldn't
simply cancel it outright. It won't be a "postponement" at all; there
will be no election 2-3 months later, 6 months later, or 10 years
later. Do you know nothing of world history? How many Latin-American
presidentes were democratically-elected then decide to become presidentes
for life?
Any idea of how long it would take the Secret Service to put a bullet
in the back of his neck?
They are protecting the Office of the President of the United
States...think hard, little man. He has limited powers no matter what
you think and there are rules and plans set in stone for this sort of
thing. Think the military would go along with a Bush or Clinton or
Kerry or... junta? And thats what it would take..trust me...when the
boys take an oath to "Protect and Defend the Constitution, from all
enemies, foriegn and domestic", that also includes wouldbe dictators.
And a whole bunch of us reading this post have never renounced our
oaths either...
You fellas really really need to check to make sure the foil in your
beanies is shiny side out....
Im fascinated...all you Bush haters constantly claim that he is as
dumb as a box of rocks..but then go on to give him devilishly sly
powers and superhuman intelligence for being able to pull something
like this off.
I wish you twits would make up your minds.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Orion" |
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16 Jul 2004 12:52:17 AM |
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I used to agree with that POV, that the military knew right from wrong..Now?
I'm not so sure...The military's claim to innocence was always the "We're
apolitical" line... Now, they are far more political (vocally) than when I
served...
Orion
"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:51:05 -0500, "Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote:
You really must be an ignoramus to think that a president who exercised
UNPRECEDENTED authority to postpone a national election wouldn't
simply cancel it outright. It won't be a "postponement" at all; there
will be no election 2-3 months later, 6 months later, or 10 years
later. Do you know nothing of world history? How many Latin-American
presidentes were democratically-elected then decide to become presidentes
for life?
Any idea of how long it would take the Secret Service to put a bullet
in the back of his neck?
They are protecting the Office of the President of the United
States...think hard, little man. He has limited powers no matter what
you think and there are rules and plans set in stone for this sort of
thing. Think the military would go along with a Bush or Clinton or
Kerry or... junta? And thats what it would take..trust me...when the
boys take an oath to "Protect and Defend the Constitution, from all
enemies, foriegn and domestic", that also includes wouldbe dictators.
And a whole bunch of us reading this post have never renounced our
oaths either...
You fellas really really need to check to make sure the foil in your
beanies is shiny side out....
Im fascinated...all you Bush haters constantly claim that he is as
dumb as a box of rocks..but then go on to give him devilishly sly
powers and superhuman intelligence for being able to pull something
like this off.
I wish you twits would make up your minds.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Ignoramus32482" |
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12 Jul 2004 10:23:18 PM |
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In article <2id6f09uicqtq160csa2p9c2brhbprt9ii@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:51:05 -0500, "Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote:
You really must be an ignoramus to think that a president who exercised
UNPRECEDENTED authority to postpone a national election wouldn't
simply cancel it outright. It won't be a "postponement" at all; there
will be no election 2-3 months later, 6 months later, or 10 years
later. Do you know nothing of world history? How many Latin-American
presidentes were democratically-elected then decide to become presidentes
for life?
Any idea of how long it would take the Secret Service to put a bullet
in the back of his neck?
They are protecting the Office of the President of the United
States...think hard, little man. He has limited powers no matter what
you think and there are rules and plans set in stone for this sort of
thing. Think the military would go along with a Bush or Clinton or
Kerry or... junta? And thats what it would take..trust me...when the
boys take an oath to "Protect and Defend the Constitution, from all
enemies, foriegn and domestic", that also includes wouldbe dictators.
And a whole bunch of us reading this post have never renounced our
oaths either...
You fellas really really need to check to make sure the foil in your
beanies is shiny side out....
Im fascinated...all you Bush haters constantly claim that he is as
dumb as a box of rocks..but then go on to give him devilishly sly
powers and superhuman intelligence for being able to pull something
like this off.
Gunner, Bush is dumb as rock, and the ploy that I described is a very
dumb ploy! Just as the Iraq war was a dumb idea, despite all the lying
and cunning, so is the idea of disrupting elections to gain a little
bit of time to show better economy and better Iraq situation, is a
very plainly stupid idea that is not going to work well for him.
Yes, even stupid people plot and scheme and conspire.
I wish you twits would make up your minds.
You see Gunner, while your knowledge of history is admirable, you are
not trying to find reality in the history that is just happening.
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| User: "William Vojak" |
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14 Jul 2004 01:32:30 AM |
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Ignoramus32482 <ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote in news:ccvkj6
$m00$3@pita.alt.net:
the idea of disrupting elections to gain a little
bit of time to show better economy and better Iraq situation
Actually by most accounts, a posponement because of
a terrorist attack a few days before the election,
would benefit the Democrats.
e.g.
1) The terrorist are most likely to hit a target within
a larger urban area, or hit a large urban area with
a mass destruction weapon. Taking out 1/4 of NYC
causes more disruption than taking out all of Longmont
Colorado.
2) Urban areas trend towards liberal/Democrats.
3) If the elections take place the next day, many people
in urban areas will either be "getting out of dodge",
or hunkering down in their homes. Either way they are
not going out and voting. At the same time people in
the rural (republican trending area) are still carrying
on with life, and still voting. If you pospone the
election for 30-60 days, it will allow for a recovery
time and more urban voters will be out voting.
If Bush really was just concerned with winning, he would
NOT pospone elections, even if an entire US city was
covered with Antrax.
Bill Vojak
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| User: "Bob" |
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14 Jul 2004 10:07:10 AM |
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"William Vojak" <wvojak@NoSpAm_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ignoramus32482 <ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote in news:ccvkj6
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the idea of disrupting elections to gain a little
bit of time to show better economy and better Iraq situation
Actually by most accounts, a posponement because of
a terrorist attack a few days before the election,
would benefit the Democrats.
e.g.
1) The terrorist are most likely to hit a target within
a larger urban area, or hit a large urban area with
a mass destruction weapon. Taking out 1/4 of NYC
causes more disruption than taking out all of Longmont
Colorado.
2) Urban areas trend towards liberal/Democrats.
3) If the elections take place the next day, many people
in urban areas will either be "getting out of dodge",
or hunkering down in their homes. Either way they are
not going out and voting. At the same time people in
the rural (republican trending area) are still carrying
on with life, and still voting. If you pospone the
election for 30-60 days, it will allow for a recovery
time and more urban voters will be out voting.
If Bush really was just concerned with winning, he would
NOT pospone elections, even if an entire US city was
covered with Antrax.
Interesting ... and makes sense too.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
13 Jul 2004 01:27:45 AM |
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On 13 Jul 2004 03:23:18 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <2id6f09uicqtq160csa2p9c2brhbprt9ii@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 12:51:05 -0500, "Syme" <syme@minitrue.gov> wrote:
You really must be an ignoramus to think that a president who exercised
UNPRECEDENTED authority to postpone a national election wouldn't
simply cancel it outright. It won't be a "postponement" at all; there
will be no election 2-3 months later, 6 months later, or 10 years
later. Do you know nothing of world history? How many Latin-American
presidentes were democratically-elected then decide to become presidentes
for life?
Any idea of how long it would take the Secret Service to put a bullet
in the back of his neck?
They are protecting the Office of the President of the United
States...think hard, little man. He has limited powers no matter what
you think and there are rules and plans set in stone for this sort of
thing. Think the military would go along with a Bush or Clinton or
Kerry or... junta? And thats what it would take..trust me...when the
boys take an oath to "Protect and Defend the Constitution, from all
enemies, foriegn and domestic", that also includes wouldbe dictators.
And a whole bunch of us reading this post have never renounced our
oaths either...
You fellas really really need to check to make sure the foil in your
beanies is shiny side out....
Im fascinated...all you Bush haters constantly claim that he is as
dumb as a box of rocks..but then go on to give him devilishly sly
powers and superhuman intelligence for being able to pull something
like this off.
Gunner, Bush is dumb as rock, and the ploy that I described is a very
dumb ploy! Just as the Iraq war was a dumb idea, despite all the lying
and cunning, so is the idea of disrupting elections to gain a little
bit of time to show better economy and better Iraq situation, is a
very plainly stupid idea that is not going to work well for him.
Yes, even stupid people plot and scheme and conspire.
I wish you twits would make up your minds.
You see Gunner, while your knowledge of history is admirable, you are
not trying to find reality in the history that is just happening.
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Perhaps my reality and yours is different. Mine tends to be based on
logic, reason and a strong grasp of history, both current and old.
Yours appears to be based mostly on hate, bias, bigotry and something
cooked up by Dr. Learys supplier.
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Carl Nisarel" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
13 Jul 2004 08:26:21 AM |
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Bjórrúnar skaltu Gunner rista --
Perhaps my reality and yours is different. Mine tends to be
based on logic, reason and a strong grasp of history,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Your support of Lott's research demonstrates that you don't
base your 'reality' on those.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
12 Jul 2004 09:12:35 PM |
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ignoramus32482 sez:
RE: Anthrax incident. "I would not put past Bush that he would try to do
something similar to win elections>"
"Do I have proof of that? Of course no..."
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If you have no proof, then what you say is purely gossip, and worth about as
much on the market.
With your great understanding of how to distribute the stuff to a few
election boards, maybe we ought to accuse you of mailing the anthrax?
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| User: "Ignoramus32482" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
12 Jul 2004 10:24:10 PM |
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In article <nyHIc.55249$qw1.35706@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Docky Wocky wrote:
ignoramus32482 sez:
RE: Anthrax incident. "I would not put past Bush that he would try to do
something similar to win elections>"
"Do I have proof of that? Of course no..."
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If you have no proof, then what you say is purely gossip, and worth about as
much on the market.
It is not gossip, it is legitimate speculation based on known facts.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
13 Jul 2004 01:30:15 AM |
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On 13 Jul 2004 03:24:10 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <nyHIc.55249$qw1.35706@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Docky Wocky wrote:
ignoramus32482 sez:
RE: Anthrax incident. "I would not put past Bush that he would try to do
something similar to win elections>"
"Do I have proof of that? Of course no..."
___________________________________
If you have no proof, then what you say is purely gossip, and worth about as
much on the market.
It is not gossip, it is legitimate speculation based on known facts.
i
Hummm .. I wonder exactly how many monkeys will fly out your *****. One?
A dozen? 42? A gazillion and 37?
All legitimate speculation of course. Then there is the animal
molestation thing...just speculation btw..but...is it true?
Gunner
That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's
cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays
there.
- George Orwell
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| User: "Ignoramus7328" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
13 Jul 2004 08:31:20 AM |
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In article <h807f0139n91g4502acop0doim2d8uateu@4ax.com>, Gunner wrote:
On 13 Jul 2004 03:24:10 GMT, Ignoramus32482
<ignoramus32482@NOSPAM.32482.invalid> wrote:
In article <nyHIc.55249$qw1.35706@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Docky Wocky wrote:
ignoramus32482 sez:
RE: Anthrax incident. "I would not put past Bush that he would try to do
something similar to win elections>"
"Do I have proof of that? Of course no..."
___________________________________
If you have no proof, then what you say is purely gossip, and worth about as
much on the market.
It is not gossip, it is legitimate speculation based on known facts.
i
Hummm .. I wonder exactly how many monkeys will fly out your *****. One?
A dozen? 42? A gazillion and 37?
All legitimate speculation of course. Then there is the animal
molestation thing...just speculation btw..but...is it true?
How many monkeys were noted flying out of my ***** previously?
How many letters with US military antrax strain were mailed out?
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
12 Jul 2004 10:44:03 PM |
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ignoramus32482 sez:
"It is not gossip, it is legitimate speculation based on known facts..."
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"Legitimate speculation based on known facts...?"
You are hereby promoted to Ignoramus007.
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| User: "William" |
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| Title: Re: Homeland security to cancel POTUS elections |
18 Jul 2004 08:57:59 AM |
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PagCal <pagcal@runbox.com> wrote in message news:<10f58id1qq5djf2@corp.supernews.com>...
I do actually, as it can be manipulated by the party in power.
Would it be better manipulated by the party out of power?
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