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"Erik Trammel" |
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27 Nov 2003 03:56:21 PM |
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Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
The number of cases of HIV now soaring again among homosexuals in Western
society.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031126-113618-3742r
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Envy is a widespread frailty. It is certain
that many intellectuals [and artists] envy
the higher income of prosperous businessmen
and that these feelings drive them toward
socialism [and anti-Semitism].
Ludwig von Mises, "Human Action", p.90
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
29 Nov 2003 07:23:12 PM |
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"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
Are you really that ignorant. Google it. BW, the poster person of
uniformed opinion.
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 06:14:12 PM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
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Alan Turing was arrested for homosexuality, in the old days when homosexuality was a crime.
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| User: "BW" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 06:22:46 PM |
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<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
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Alan Turing was arrested for homosexuality, in the old days when
homosexuality was a crime.
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So it is your opinion that if someone is arrested for something, that in
itself is "proof" that he is guilty of whatever the police accuse him of??
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| User: "Marie C. Bennett" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 08:16:40 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:22:46 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
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Alan Turing was arrested for homosexuality, in the old days when
homosexuality was a crime.
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So it is your opinion that if someone is arrested for something, that in
itself is "proof" that he is guilty of whatever the police accuse him of??
No, but if the accused *pleads* guilty (as Turing did), it's
reasonable to believe that he is.
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| User: "BW" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 08:32:25 PM |
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"Marie C. Bennett" <do.not@email.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:22:46 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with
self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral
animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
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Alan Turing was arrested for homosexuality, in the old days when
homosexuality was a crime.
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So it is your opinion that if someone is arrested for something, that in
itself is "proof" that he is guilty of whatever the police accuse him
of??
No, but if the accused *pleads* guilty (as Turing did), it's
reasonable to believe that he is.
Ah, but someone may plead guilty to "being a genius", but that in itself
hardly "proves" he is such. Similarly, you might CLAIM to be a homosexual,
but that hardly means you are one. No, homosexual is as homosexual DOES.
That is the ONLY reasonal way we have of determining that someone "is
homosexual".
And since none of you Homosexualists have been able to offer any evidence
whatsoever that Turing's BEHAVIOR was that of a homosexual, you still have
failed to provide ANY proof whatsoever concerning Turing.
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| User: "Bard Kesnit" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 10:49:21 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:32:25 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
"Marie C. Bennett" <do.not@email.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:22:46 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
No, but if the accused *pleads* guilty (as Turing did), it's
reasonable to believe that he is.
Ah, but someone may plead guilty to "being a genius", but that in itself
hardly "proves" he is such.
Being a genius is considered to be a good thing. Being
homosexual (at the time) was considered a crime - in other words, a
bad thing. Why would he admit to a crime if it wasn't true?
Bard Kesnit
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| User: "Ward Stewart" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
29 Nov 2003 05:52:52 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:49:21 GMT, Bard Kesnit
<vtcheme@hotmail.nospam..com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 02:32:25 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
"Marie C. Bennett" <do.not@email.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:22:46 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
No, but if the accused *pleads* guilty (as Turing did), it's
reasonable to believe that he is.
Ah, but someone may plead guilty to "being a genius", but that in itself
hardly "proves" he is such.
Being a genius is considered to be a good thing. Being
homosexual (at the time) was considered a crime - in other words, a
bad thing. Why would he admit to a crime if it wasn't true?
Bard Kesnit
Why bother? It is of a perfect clarity that "BW" knows nothing of
Turing and cannot be bothered to look into Google.
A waste of time.\
ward
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Ward and George
48 years together
and yet
Strangers before the law.
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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28 Nov 2003 11:57:15 PM |
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bard kesnit sez
"Being a genius is considered to be a good thing. Being
homosexual (at the time) was considered a crime - in other words, a
bad thing. Why would he admit to a crime if it wasn't true?..."
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Another defect coming to the fore?
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| User: "Wyle Coyote" |
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28 Nov 2003 09:02:53 PM |
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with
self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral
animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing,
Proof please.....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alan Turing was arrested for homosexuality, in the old days when
homosexuality was a crime.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So it is your opinion that if someone is arrested for something, that in
itself is "proof" that he is guilty of whatever the police accuse him
of??
No, but if the accused *pleads* guilty (as Turing did), it's
reasonable to believe that he is.
Ah, but someone may plead guilty to "being a genius", but that in itself
hardly "proves" he is such. Similarly, you might CLAIM to be a homosexual,
but that hardly means you are one. No, homosexual is as homosexual DOES.
That is the ONLY reasonal way we have of determining that someone "is
homosexual".
And since none of you Homosexualists have been able to offer any evidence
whatsoever that Turing's BEHAVIOR was that of a homosexual, you still have
failed to provide ANY proof whatsoever concerning Turing.
Now you're just being plain, straight out ignorant.
Certainly you don't think this slithering around the issue and skillful diversion
tactic, is mustering any support for gays in USA, do you?
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| User: "Marie A." |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community. Gays Self-Loathing |
28 Nov 2003 11:18:15 PM |
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3fzg82k3v.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Given that "homosexual minds" include that of Alan Turing, we can
surmise that Arnold Wolfcastle's mind is down there with the
nematodes, which follows by scaling the mind of a small feral
animal by the ratio of Arnold's IQ to Alan's. :-)
Sir, individual brilliance doesn't correlate with sexual stability, in
either men or women, but especially in men. In fact, one could more
easily make a case for sexual dysfunction in direct proportion to
education and genius, the idea being that the more educated one
becomes the less constrained they believe they are from the norms of
behavior with regulate us mere mortals.
Cordially, Marie
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29 Nov 2003 11:57:38 AM |
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(Marie A.) writes:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3fzg82k3v.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Sir, individual brilliance doesn't correlate with sexual stability, in
either men or women, but especially in men. In fact, one could more
easily make a case for sexual dysfunction in direct proportion to
education and genius, the idea being that the more educated one
becomes the less constrained they believe they are from the norms of
behavior with regulate us mere mortals.
Marie apparently believes that education leads to loose morals, which
explains what the right wing wants to do to funding for eductation.
Talk about utter stupidity on Marie's part - this posting takes the
cake.
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| User: "Marie A." |
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30 Nov 2003 03:24:47 PM |
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No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3vfp3hxgb.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
LetEmEatWMD@yahoo.com (Marie A.) writes:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3fzg82k3v.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Sir, individual brilliance doesn't correlate with sexual stability, in
either men or women, but especially in men. In fact, one could more
easily make a case for sexual dysfunction in direct proportion to
education and genius, the idea being that the more educated one
becomes the less constrained they believe they are from the norms of
behavior with regulate us mere mortals.
Marie apparently believes that education leads to loose morals, which
explains what the right wing wants to do to funding for eductation.
Talk about utter stupidity on Marie's part - this posting takes the
cake.
Reading for comprehension just doesn't seem to be a strong suit for
most liberals. Read what I said again. I made reference to sexual
stability and sexual dysfunction. But while we're at it, I find it
curious that people like you are the very first to equate strict
morals and rigid sexual attitudes with ignorance in general, and
conversely sexual freedom and laissez faire attitudes about sex with
sophistication and education. Which is it, dear boy? Are you actually
now suggesting that educated homosexuals are more apt to be more moral
in their sexual attitudes than, say, ignorant Christians? Are you
saying you're just as ignorant as them?
Do any of you ever reflect on some of the things you say? Goodness,
can any of you reason things through?
Cordially, Marie
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30 Nov 2003 11:48:59 PM |
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(Marie A.) writes:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3vfp3hxgb.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
(Marie A.) writes:
No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<m3fzg82k3v.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>...
arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) writes:
Sir, individual brilliance doesn't correlate with sexual stability, in
either men or women, but especially in men. In fact, one could more
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easily make a case for sexual dysfunction in direct proportion to
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education and genius, the idea being that the more educated one
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becomes the less constrained they believe they are from the norms of
behavior with regulate us mere mortals.
Marie apparently believes that education leads to loose morals, which
explains what the right wing wants to do to funding for eductation.
Talk about utter stupidity on Marie's part - this posting takes the
cake.
Reading for comprehension just doesn't seem to be a strong suit for
most liberals. Read what I said again. I made reference to sexual
stability and sexual dysfunction. <break>
On the contrary, presenting a rationale argument is a problem for
your type of conservative.
But while we're at it, I find it curious that people like you are
the very first to equate strict morals and rigid sexual attitudes
with ignorance in general, and conversely sexual freedom and laissez
faire attitudes about sex with sophistication and education.
Are you so daft that you don't even understand what you wrote, which
was to assert that education and intelligence resulted in "sexual
dysfunction." I've underlined your text for you to help you remember
what you said.
The rest of your post isn't worth commenting on.
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| User: "Laura Bush - Americas kid-killer" |
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29 Nov 2003 11:00:42 AM |
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(Arnold Wolfcastle) wrote in message news:<410939de.0311281425.29f79bc@posting.google.com>...
"Erik Trammel" <trammel@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<9quxb.3173$ZmO.1812@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
The number of cases of HIV now soaring again among homosexuals in Western
society.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031126-113618-3742r
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Same thing can be said about smokers. Their medical problems are
self-inflicted too and it costs society a fortune.
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| User: "tom" |
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29 Nov 2003 05:58:45 PM |
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"Laura Bush - America's kid-killer" <pigfarm9999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) wrote in message
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"Erik Trammel" <trammel@rogers.com> wrote in message
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The number of cases of HIV now soaring again among homosexuals in
Western
society.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031126-113618-3742r
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Same thing can be said about smokers. Their medical problems are
self-inflicted too and it costs society a fortune.
Absolutely... Or how about the fat unhealthy people who eat fast food every
day? Heart disease affects tremendously more westerners than HIV.
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"tom" <tom@start4gay.com> wrote in message
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"Laura Bush - America's kid-killer" <pigfarm9999@yahoo.com> wrote in
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arnoldwolfcastle@yahoo.co.uk (Arnold Wolfcastle) wrote in message
news:<410939de.0311281425.29f79bc@posting.google.com>...
"Erik Trammel" <trammel@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<9quxb.3173$ZmO.1812@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
The number of cases of HIV now soaring again among homosexuals in
Western
society.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031126-113618-3742r
Homosexuals lack self control and they are filled with self-loathing.
They have the minds of small children, minks or small feral animals.
Same thing can be said about smokers. Their medical problems are
self-inflicted too and it costs society a fortune.
Absolutely... Or how about the fat unhealthy people who eat fast food
every
day? Heart disease affects tremendously more westerners than HIV.
I've also heard of lawsuits against gun manufacturers because guns, if
properly used, can kill. (same with cigarettes, etc).
And in all of these examples, there are groups out there trying (or tried
successfully) to sue to stop them. Maybe another round of lawsuits is in
order - this time against the large homosexual American Lot of organizations
("Big Gay AL" for short). Maybe someone or a group of someones could
successfully sue the Big Gay AL on the grounds that their lies are killing
Americans. For example, why does the CDC report that over 60% of AIDS cases
in this country are homosexuals? What about all the lies told to scare us
into believing that AIDS affects hetero people just as much? Why is it that
any international case of AIDS referenced makes no mention of the sexual
preference of the person infected?
AIDS will never be cured, because the definition for it is in a state of
flux. AIDS is, by definition, HIV plus an "indicator disease" -- the list
of indicator diseases changes with politics, not with medicine. Consider
the example of the "largest jump in new AIDS cases among women" which
happened around 1997 -- why did so many new women become stricken with AIDS
in that year alone? Because the definition of AIDS changed to include
cervical cancer as an indicator disease. Last I heard, it's *extremely*
difficult for a homosexual male to get cervical cancer.
Maybe a lawsuit is in order against the Big Gay AL - at least it could slow
the attack by militant homosexuals against our way of life for a few years.
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28 Nov 2003 04:31:14 PM |
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27 Nov 2003 04:14:46 PM |
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Newsgroups where the talk is around AIDS/HIV
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[01] sci.med.aids
[02] soc.support.aids-hiv+
[03] misc.health.aids
[04] alt.politics.homosexuality
[05] fido7.aids-arc
[06] soc.culture.malaysia
[07] alt.flame.niggers
[08] alt.gossip.celebrities
[09] nz.soc.queer
[10] soc.culture.indian
[11] bit.listserv.gaynet
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 02:49:23 AM |
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Washington Times = Moonie *****
"Erik Trammel" <trammel@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:9quxb.3173$ZmO.1812@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
The number of cases of HIV now soaring again among homosexuals in Western
society.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20031126-113618-3742r
--
Envy is a widespread frailty. It is certain
that many intellectuals [and artists] envy
the higher income of prosperous businessmen
and that these feelings drive them toward
socialism [and anti-Semitism].
Ludwig von Mises, "Human Action", p.90
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| User: "BW" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 08:01:39 AM |
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n_Dxb.60927$aT5.16512@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Interestingly, that same Washington Times reported that Bill Clinton won the
presidential election in 1992 and in 1996. Was that "Moonie *****"
also, Roger?
Or is this merely another excellent example of how some pathetic liberals in
these newsgroups declare a newspaper to be "Moonie *****" when that paper
reports facts which those pathetic liberals find to be uncomfortable?
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| User: "The Frog" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 08:12:02 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:01:39 GMT, "BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote:
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n_Dxb.60927$aT5.16512@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Interestingly, that same Washington Times reported that Bill Clinton won the
presidential election in 1992 and in 1996. Was that "Moonie *****"
also, Roger?
Or is this merely another excellent example of how some pathetic liberals in
these newsgroups declare a newspaper to be "Moonie *****" when that paper
reports facts which those pathetic liberals find to be uncomfortable?
Pretty much.....
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"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."
--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.
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| User: "The Frog" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 08:04:12 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
The prediction came after watching Africa. However, in Africa, AIDS is
rarely diagnosed and there are no real numbers. Also, the unsanitary
body piercing and tatoos are what seem to be spreading AIDS in mass
numbers.
In this country, it has been shown to be spread mostly by transfusion
and homosexuals........
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"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."
--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.
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| User: "BW" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 08:12:52 AM |
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"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger observed to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that 9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
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| User: "Blutak" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 09:54:54 AM |
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"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DJIxb.245252$9E1.1315753@attbi_s52...
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington
Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times
reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger observed
to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that 9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning
homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly
becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases
Milestone Explains Effects of Epidemic
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A4
3638-2002Nov26¬Found=true
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14677-2003Nov25.html
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| User: "BW" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 01:14:57 PM |
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<Blutak> wrote in message news:1070034865.10992.0@echo.uk.clara.net...
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DJIxb.245252$9E1.1315753@attbi_s52...
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington
Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times
reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger observed
to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that 9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed
when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning
homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly
becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases
Not in the United States, Honey. Not in the United States.....
For example, for the year ended December 2001, there were more new cases of
AIDS among HOMOSEXUAL men ALONE than among women of ALL categories!
14,767 NEW cases of diseased homos. JUST male homos alone! But on 11,082
new cases of AIDS among ALL categories of women.
And when one examines the cumulative total, the figures look even worse for
the homos:
420,264 AIDS-diseased male homos alone, versus 141,048 cases of AIDS among
women of ALL cateogories, INCLUDING intravenous drug user women!
No, it's clearly a "gay" disease, honey. Always has been.
(http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats/hasr1302/table5.htm)
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| User: "The Frog" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 10:20:25 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:54:54 -0000, <Blutak> wrote:
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DJIxb.245252$9E1.1315753@attbi_s52...
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington
Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times
reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger observed
to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that 9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning
homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly
becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases
Worldwide, that may be true. One issue is that all are assuming that
the major way of spreading AIDS n Africa is through sex, and that may
not be the case. Many, if not most tribes indulge in body piercing
and/or tatooing. Few have access to clean needles or tools for this.
This would explain the disparity of the spread to heterosexuals in
Africa, but not to that extent in America.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."
--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.
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| User: "Blutak" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 11:58:28 AM |
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"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:o6tesvks3b1mojvg3j16n8107va5kn1a7h@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:54:54 -0000, <Blutak> wrote:
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DJIxb.245252$9E1.1315753@attbi_s52...
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington
Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times
reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger
observed
to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that
9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed
when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning
homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly
becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases
Worldwide, that may be true. One issue is that all are assuming that
the major way of spreading AIDS n Africa is through sex, and that may
not be the case. Many, if not most tribes indulge in body piercing
and/or tatooing. Few have access to clean needles or tools for this.
This would explain the disparity of the spread to heterosexuals in
Africa, but not to that extent in America.
From the article cited.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A4
3638-2002Nov26¬Found=true
In all, 42 million people are living with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)
infection, according to the report, released each November. Of the 38.6
million infected adults, 19.2 million are women -- slightly less than 50
percent.
In sub-Saharan Africa, 58 percent of infected adults are women. That is not
likely to change soon, as the prevalence of HIV infection among girls ages
15 to 24 is about twice that of boys the same age -- 11 percent vs. 6
percent, according to high-end estimates.
African girls are at higher risk of becoming infected for numerous reasons.
Their partners tend to be older -- and more likely to be infected -- than
boys their age. Their sexual relationships are often characterized by what
the report called "dependence and subordination," and many girls (including
married ones) find it difficult to demand safe practices, such as condom
use. "
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| User: "The Frog" |
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| Title: Re: Homosexuality A Very Serious Problem. HIV Infections Soar In Community |
28 Nov 2003 12:42:03 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:58:28 -0000, <Blutak> wrote:
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:o6tesvks3b1mojvg3j16n8107va5kn1a7h@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:54:54 -0000, <Blutak> wrote:
"BW" <bw4@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DJIxb.245252$9E1.1315753@attbi_s52...
"The Frog" <jmattNOSPAM@ticnet.com> wrote in message
news:u9lesvsj1r927v4407nug94f4flmsqrif1@4ax.com...
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:49:23 GMT, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Washington Times = Moonie *****
Hehehehe.....
I remember when it was predicted that AIDS would spread like wildfire
throughout the normal population via sex. Just didn't happen.
Roger's selective indignation at the news reporting by The Washington
Times
is quite amusing to behold. Roger was not observed to emit his "Moonie
*****" plaint when those same "Moonie *****" Washington Times
reported
that Bill Clinton had won the presidential race. Nor was Roger
observed
to
become upset when the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reported that
9
Democrats were running in the Democrat Party primary for next year's
presidential race.
No, Roger apparently only waxes indignant and becomes horribly miffed
when
the "Moonie *****" Washington Times reports facts concerning
homosexuals
and their AIDS which our Roger finds troublesome. THEN it suddenly
becomes
the "Moonie *****" Washinton Times, from Roger's perspective.
Thus Roger makes a Royal Homosexualist ***** of himself, for our viewing
pleasure, once again.....
Women Make Up Half of HIV Cases
Worldwide, that may be true. One issue is that all are assuming that
the major way of spreading AIDS n Africa is through sex, and that may
not be the case. Many, if not most tribes indulge in body piercing
and/or tatooing. Few have access to clean needles or tools for this.
This would explain the disparity of the spread to heterosexuals in
Africa, but not to that extent in America.
From the article cited.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A4
3638-2002Nov26¬Found=true
In all, 42 million people are living with human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)
infection, according to the report, released each November. Of the 38.6
million infected adults, 19.2 million are women -- slightly less than 50
percent.
In sub-Saharan Africa, 58 percent of infected adults are women. That is not
likely to change soon, as the prevalence of HIV infection among girls ages
15 to 24 is about twice that of boys the same age -- 11 percent vs. 6
percent, according to high-end estimates.
African girls are at higher risk of becoming infected for numerous reasons.
Their partners tend to be older -- and more likely to be infected -- than
boys their age. Their sexual relationships are often characterized by what
the report called "dependence and subordination," and many girls (including
married ones) find it difficult to demand safe practices, such as condom
use. "
Well...if it's from the article, then,,,,,
did you know that AIDS is not actually diagnosed in most of Africa?
Anyone with similar symptoms is lumped in. They don't have the money
or the tools to do so.
My point is the numbers of AIDS victims is a soft number, and so is
the way AIDS is transmitted in Africa.
If it were simply normal sex, why aren't we seeing the growth in
number of AIDS cases among the straight crowd?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The multicultural project will never fully succeed if 'diversity'
is defined as one's own preferred ideologies and political groups."
--Richard E. Redding, "Grappling With Diverse Conceptions of Diversity,"
American Psychologist, April 2002, p. 301.
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