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"Lady Libertarian" |
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17 Mar 2006 09:40:18 PM |
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Honor "Hanoi" Jane Fonda?! |
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve – Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles’ resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
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Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "Jim E" |
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18 Mar 2006 09:26:12 AM |
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"Lady Libertarian" <Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote in message
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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
Hanoi Jane should be hanged.
Preferably on the same scaffold as Hanoi John
Jim E
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| User: "Lady Libertarian" |
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18 Mar 2006 09:37:31 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD653126@sea.edu> wrote :
"Lady Libertarian" <Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote in
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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles'
resolution to honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable
work was roundly defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday.
The Senate vote was 38- 1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese
and worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty
of treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
Hanoi Jane should be hanged.
Preferably on the same scaffold as Hanoi John
Agreed.
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Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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| User: "betweentheeyes" |
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18 Mar 2006 11:45:53 AM |
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Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
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Lady Libertarian - United States of America
What was a HOOT on this is the Georgia Senate passed it ... then some
Senator read what was passed and a motion was made to reconsider.
The FACT Senators will vote FOR a bill and not read it reaffirms the benefit
of term limits for all elected officials. If term limits can't be codified
into law it should be the standing principle of all voters. You seen the
bumper stickers ...'Vote the dumb ***** out'
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| User: "Jim E" |
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18 Mar 2006 05:40:47 PM |
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Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
What was a HOOT on this is the Georgia Senate passed it ... then some
Senator read what was passed and a motion was made to reconsider.
The FACT Senators will vote FOR a bill and not read it reaffirms the
benefit of term limits for all elected officials. If term limits can't be
codified into law it should be the standing principle of all voters. You
seen the bumper stickers ...'Vote the dumb ***** out'
What is also a HOOT, is the pols who here (Wa) got elected on tickets
promoting term limits suddenly finding all kinds of reasons why the limits
are unconstitutional when they now apply to said pols.
I haven't decided if political office attracts hypocrites, or
simply breeds them.
Research is needed.
Also random spontaneous ejection of pols from the system.
Jim E
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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18 Mar 2006 08:14:59 PM |
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"Jim E" <YD653126@sea.edu> wrote in message
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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
What was a HOOT on this is the Georgia Senate passed it ... then some
Senator read what was passed and a motion was made to reconsider.
The FACT Senators will vote FOR a bill and not read it reaffirms the
benefit of term limits for all elected officials. If term limits can't
be
codified into law it should be the standing principle of all voters.
You
seen the bumper stickers ...'Vote the dumb ***** out'
What is also a HOOT, is the pols who here (Wa) got elected on tickets
promoting term limits suddenly finding all kinds of reasons why the limits
are unconstitutional when they now apply to said pols.
I haven't decided if political office attracts hypocrites, or
simply breeds them.
Research is needed.
Also random spontaneous ejection of pols from the system.
Jim E
Sounds like the national repuglcon party to me.
Didn;t they all stand on the capitol steps a dozen years ago and promise to
enact and obey term limits??
Larry
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| User: "Jim E" |
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19 Mar 2006 12:44:37 PM |
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Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
What was a HOOT on this is the Georgia Senate passed it ... then some
Senator read what was passed and a motion was made to reconsider.
The FACT Senators will vote FOR a bill and not read it reaffirms the
benefit of term limits for all elected officials. If term limits can't
be
codified into law it should be the standing principle of all voters.
You
seen the bumper stickers ...'Vote the dumb ***** out'
What is also a HOOT, is the pols who here (Wa) got elected on tickets
promoting term limits suddenly finding all kinds of reasons why the
limits
are unconstitutional when they now apply to said pols.
I haven't decided if political office attracts hypocrites, or
simply breeds them.
Research is needed.
Also random spontaneous ejection of pols from the system.
Jim E
Sounds like the national repuglcon party to me.
Didn;t they all stand on the capitol steps a dozen years ago and promise
to
enact and obey term limits??
Larry
Now their gravy train job is due to end.
How the hell can they extort bribes from lobbyists if they are no longer in
power?
Hanging would be too good.
Jim E
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| User: "Yosemite Sam" |
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18 Mar 2006 10:04:49 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:14:59 -0500, "Larry Hewitt"
<larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
Sounds like
***** and die you trash.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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19 Mar 2006 01:57:09 PM |
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Jim E, aka the goose-stepping moron wrote:
Hanoi Jane should be hanged.
Preferably on the same scaffold as Hanoi John
*****, nazi *****... You should be hanged for hating your country
so much...
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| User: "Bob" |
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19 Mar 2006 09:53:57 PM |
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Jim E, aka the goose-stepping moron wrote:
Hanoi Jane should be hanged.
Preferably on the same scaffold as Hanoi John
*****, nazi *****... You should be hanged for hating your
country
so much...
You must be one of those fudge packing queers with a handle of
"Parsifal"
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| User: "Yosemite Sam" |
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18 Mar 2006 09:39:58 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:26:12 -0800, "Jim E" <YD653126@sea.edu> wrote:
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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
Hanoi Jane should be hanged.
Preferably on the same scaffold as Hanoi John
Jim E
Amen.
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| User: "Ivan Gowch" |
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19 Mar 2006 01:05:31 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:40:18 -0600, Lady Libertarian
<Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote:
==>http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
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==>Fonda Denied Award
==>March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
==>
==>By Sher Zieve – Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles’ resolution to
==>honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
==>defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
==>1 against the resolution.
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==>Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
==>worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
==>Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
==>American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
==>treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
Horseshit. She's an American hero, and
1,000 times more patriotic than you pathetic,
brainwashed, war-loving flag-wavers.
For your edification (as if it will do any good),
I am reprinting the following, first published
Tue., June 20, 2000
Jane Fonda has earned her place of honour
By Ivan Gowch
Gowch News Service
TORONTO (GNS) -- I can certainly understand why Jane Fonda
would be unpopular with soldiers who suffered ill treatment at
the hands of the North Vietnamese and the Vietcong.
She, after all, was the most visible person telling the
truth that Americans wanted desperately not to hear:
Washington's war on Vietnam was as wrong as any
war has ever been. And they were the cannon fodder
for an invading army whose role in Southeast Asia was
scorned by the world at the time and discredited by
history.
Those who believe that the only problem with the war
was that the U.S. military was not "allowed" to win it (a
still-popular delusion with some folks) forget that in
meddling in a country where it had no business, and
trying to subjugate a nation solely because it did not
approve of the type of government the majority of its
people apparently wanted, the United States was
acting illegally and in direct contravention of the
principles it has always claimed to hold dear, and
upon which the U.S. itself was founded.
The war against Vietnam illustrated perfectly just how
completely America has abandoned its once-cherished
notion that all people have the right to self-determination;
that all people who can reasonably be regarded as a
nation have a natural right to choose how and by whom
they will be governed, with no interference from anyone.
The military-industrial complex that runs the United States
(and yes, Virginia, there IS such a thing -- just ask Dwight
Eisenhower, a Republican) tossed that most honourable of
principles into the ashcan because it knew that a free
Vietnamese people would choose a government less than
sympathetic to American business's conviction that it should
be permitted to make as much profit for itself as it can,
anywhere it wishes.
In doing so, it betrayed America's OWN revolution and
sullied the memory of countless American patriots who
died to uphold that ideal.
"I don't see why a country should be allowed to go communist just
because of the irresponsibility of its people."
Has any American ever uttered a statement more infuriatingly arrogant?
Unfortunately, Henry Kissinger's rationale for the United States'
atrocity in Chile has long been U.S. government policy, extant during
the Vietnam era and continuning to this day.
The U.S. had no business in Vietnam. It had no major
economic or other interests there, was not its colonial
power (as if THAT would have justified intervention)
and could not possibly be seen to have had any right
to tell the Vietnamese what type of government they
could have.
It was the United States and its allies at the Geneva
Convention, remember, that partitioned Vietnam into
North and South, and that encouraged its puppet
administration in what was then Saigon to break the
commitment to participate in free elections in all of Vietnam,
when it became clear that Ho Chi Minh had the support
of the vast majority of the people.
In doing so, it behaved exactly like the sort of tyrannical
dictatorship it had always claimed to oppose. And, sad
as it is, that made the soldiers who did its bidding "in
country" the forces of a colonialist invader, which is how
they were properly regarded by the people whose
aspirations they were sent there to suppress. Any wonder,
then, that the Vietnamese, after expelling the Chinese, the
Mongols, the Chinese again, the Japanese and the French,
would be less than gentle in their treatment of their latest
would-be conquerors?
"Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just Powers from the
Consent of the Governed, that whenever
any Form of Government becomes destructive
of these Ends, it is the Right of the
People to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new Government, laying its
Foundation on such Principles, and organizing
its Powers in such Form, as to them shall
seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness."
Recognize these words? They're from the Declaration
of Independence, that most-beloved of American
historical documents. The policy-makers and
government officials of the Vietnam era either forgot
them -- or decided they applied only to Americans.
Seeing the injustice, hundreds of thousands of Americans
protested, went to prison or fled the country -- and were,
for the most part, ignored by a succession of
administrations that didn't give a damn for democracy.
Recognizing their duty, Jane Fonda and a number of other
prominent Americans lent their celebrity and risked their
careers to ensure that the truth was not crushed under the
hysterical "anti-communist" propaganda being spread by
the government.
By travelling to Vietnam and giving her high-profile support
to that country's fighters for independence, Fonda was only
doing what Americans are taught they are SUPPOSED to do
-- stand up for what is right, even if your stand is unpopular,
support the underdog, defend liberty and oppose tyranny,
wherever it exists.
I am extremely skeptical of the claims that Fonda's presence in
Vietnam encouraged the Vietnamese to treat American POWs
more harshly, and it is ironic in the extreme that some ex-POWs
would blame for their misfortune someone who was trying
desperately to end the conflict that led to their capture. In any
case, when one considers the atrocities committed by
U.S. forces and their "South Vietnamese" surrogates against
Vietnamese freedom fighters and the civilian population, it is
difficult not to regard the scorecards as being at least even.
War is hell. In Vietnam, it was a hell created solely -- and
unnecessarily -- by the United States.
I believe Jane Fonda's intervention helped bring the war on
Vietnam to an end sooner, and therefore
saved an unknown number of lives, both American and
Vietnamese. For that, she deserves honours for her courage
and her sacrifice -- not condemnation by latter-day Cold
Warriors who still cling to the fascist notion that it is a citizen's
duty to support her government no matter how wrong it is, or
how destructive its activities.
Jane Fonda knows well, I think, that some folks still consider her
a traitor for opposing Washington's war on Vietnam. I can only
hope that she learns that there are also folks who still regard her
as a hero.
If someone is honouring "100 Women of the Century,"
Jane Fonda, it says here, has richly earned her place among
them.
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20 Mar 2006 01:39:17 AM |
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Ivan Gowch <the_gowch@yahoo.com> wrote :
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:40:18 -0600, Lady Libertarian
<Lady_Libertarian@FreeWorld.xxx> wrote:
==>http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
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==>Fonda Denied Award
==>March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
==>
==>By Sher Zieve – Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles’
resolution to ==>honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable
work was roundly ==>defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday.
The Senate vote was 38- ==>1 against the resolution.
==>
==>Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese
and ==>worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam
war. ==>Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no
living ==>American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as
guilty of ==>treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
Horseshit. She's an American hero, and
1,000 times more patriotic than you pathetic,
brainwashed, war-loving flag-wavers.
She's a commie hero fuckwit! Move to Cuba!
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| User: "Mel Horowitz" |
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18 Mar 2006 06:01:50 PM |
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They should honor Bush for his valor and bravery in protecting us from the
terrorists.
Anyone who protests war is a freedom hating criminal who hate the very core
principals that this country was built on. If it wasn't for the Vietnam war,
we'd all be speaking Vietnamese right now or the Soviets would have enslaved us.
If they hadn't purposely held back and allowed Bush to fight in Vietnam, we
would have finished the job and defeated Communism 15 years before Ronald Reagan
(may he be praised) single handidly brought them to their knees!
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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13144.html
Fonda Denied Award
March 17, 2006 07:15 AM EST
By Sher Zieve - Georgia Democrat Senator Steen Miles' resolution to
honor actress Jane Fonda for her charitable work was roundly
defeated by the Georgia Senate on Thursday. The Senate vote was 38-
1 against the resolution.
Fonda openly and actively supported the Communist Vietnamese and
worked against American soldiers during the Viet Nam war.
Republican Sen. John Douglas said: "I can think of no living
American who is less worthy of this honor. She is as guilty of
treason as Benedict Arnold and Tokyo Rose.''
--
Lady Libertarian - United States of America
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19 Mar 2006 02:13:54 PM |
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They should honor Bush for his valor and bravery in protecting us from the
terrorists.
Anyone who protests war is a freedom hating criminal who hate the very core
principals that this country was built on. If it wasn't for the Vietnam war,
we'd all be speaking Vietnamese right now or the Soviets would have enslaved us.
If they hadn't purposely held back and allowed Bush to fight in Vietnam, we
would have finished the job and defeated Communism 15 years before Ronald Reagan
(may he be praised) single handidly brought them to their knees!
Any american who protested against the Vietnam war had real spine and
courage.
In that war died about 2-4 million people, "geeks" as you say.
USG scumbacks should been hanged for their crimes like nazi-shits.
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God save us from American aid and freedom, I don't want to be bombed to
stoneage.
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