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User: "Godzilla Pimp"
Date: 19 Aug 2006 02:39:07 PM
Object: How far have you gotten?
You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the lies
and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something like
this (few people ever get to the end).
Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust
GP
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User: "Ron ONeal"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 04:23:34 PM
"Godzilla Pimp" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP

Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.
RO
.
User: "Godzilla Pimp"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 05:39:42 PM
"Ron O'Neal" <roneal@wt.net> wrote in message
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.

Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave us a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.
.
User: "Ron ONeal"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 06:45:29 PM
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.


Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave us a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.


You disappoint me. I thought you might try to rebut with some kind of
supporting evidence AGAINST Racial equality and Gender equality, or evidence
FOR the "Myth" of the Holocaust.
RO
.
User: "Godzilla Pimp"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 07:06:20 PM
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects
the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.


Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave us
a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.



You disappoint me. I thought you might try to rebut with some kind of
supporting evidence AGAINST Racial equality and Gender equality, or
evidence
FOR the "Myth" of the Holocaust.

OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in the
same night? How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a
trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and night?
How does the Tooth Fairy know you lost a tooth? Why wouldn't you send your
kids to a majority black school?
GP
.
User: "John Brockbank"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 21 Aug 2006 01:06:10 PM
"Godzilla Pimp"

OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in
the same night?

Dead easy. Santa, you see, is magic. That is what little children know.
< How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a

trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and
night?

They couldn't, they'd be certain to leave a great deal of evidence, both
physical and documentary. There are other types of evidence as well, and
abundant amounts of all of it. Anybody with sense knows a person with a bee
in their bonnet as soon as they see one.

How does the Tooth Fairy know you lost a tooth?

Duh. Are you stupid? it is under the pillow of course. Every child knows
that.
Why wouldn't you send your

kids to a majority black school?

There isn't one round here, just three excellent junior schools and one
superb senior school from where they will go to university. Get down to the
library and take out a book about obsessions - see if you can learn
something about yourself. Really. You will be much happier if you live
your own life instead of growsing about imaginary others.
.
User: "Miriam Cohen"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 21 Aug 2006 05:29:20 PM
John Brockbank wrote:

"Godzilla Pimp"

OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in
the same night?



Dead easy. Santa, you see, is magic. That is what little children know.

< How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a

trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and
night?



They couldn't, they'd be certain to leave a great deal of evidence, both
physical and documentary.

Germany's announcement that they'll open all of the Nazi records on the
Holocaust have deniers losing their minds.
--
L'Chaim
Miriam
In the beginning
the Word already was.
.
User: "John Brockbank"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 22 Aug 2006 01:12:42 PM
"Miriam Cohen" <mimiNOigalSPAM@cox.net> wrote in message
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John Brockbank wrote:

"Godzilla Pimp"

OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in
the same night?



Dead easy. Santa, you see, is magic. That is what little children know.

< How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a

trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and
night?



They couldn't, they'd be certain to leave a great deal of evidence, both
physical and documentary.


Germany's announcement that they'll open all of the Nazi records on the
Holocaust have deniers losing their minds.

What, are you slightly of the opinion that deniers have some sort of logical
justification however wierd? Get a bit more knowledge of psychology by
talking to people. Many consider that they are defined by what they
'believe'. The oldest (non) argument in the book is 'I have a right to my
opinion' - which is akin to the more modern 'freedom of speech' (non)
argument.
Releasing evidence makes no difference to people who rely on beliefs being
valid.

--
L'Chaim

Miriam

In the beginning
the Word already was.

.
User: "Thufir"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 23 Aug 2006 02:14:31 AM
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, John Brockbank wrote:
[...]

What, are you slightly of the opinion that deniers have some sort of logical
justification however wierd? Get a bit more knowledge of psychology by
talking to people. Many consider that they are defined by what they
'believe'. The oldest (non) argument in the book is 'I have a right to my
opinion' - which is akin to the more modern 'freedom of speech' (non)
argument.

Releasing evidence makes no difference to people who rely on beliefs being
valid.

[...]
Believing is seeing. This applies to all humans.
--
Thufir
<http://hawat.thufir.googlepages.com/>
.




User: "What Me Worry?"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 11:18:17 PM
"Godzilla Pimp" <me7@privacy.net> stuck to his disinfo script when he puked
the following:

How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a trace of
physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and night?

Because you're either ignorant, or a liar, or both
http://www.auschwitz.dk/
What the h3ll is wrong with holocaust deniers? Eager to embrace
neo-Fascism; but without the guilt?
.

User: "Ron ONeal"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 09:59:37 PM
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects
the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes

something

like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list

of

fables is not.


Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave

us

a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.



You disappoint me. I thought you might try to rebut with some kind of
supporting evidence AGAINST Racial equality and Gender equality, or
evidence
FOR the "Myth" of the Holocaust.


OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in

the

same night? How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a
trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and

night?

How does the Tooth Fairy know you lost a tooth? Why wouldn't you send your
kids to a majority black school?

GP


I'll ignore the Santa/Easter Bunny stuff, since the topic I challenged was
the Holocaust denial. But I suspect you knew that.
The largest mechanized death camps were far East in Poland: Auschwitz,
Treblinka, Belsec, Sobibor and Chelmno. They were NOT, as you stated,
bombed day and night. The first bombing priority of the Allies were cities
and plants supplying the German war effort. Do some more and deeper reading
on the subject.
Physical evidence was seen and photographed by advancing Allied armies. The
crematoria had been demolished by explosives. The barracks of the inmates
had not been destroyed. Allied personnel gave documented statements at
Nuremburg. Surviving inmates of the camps gave testimony in Nuremburg as
well.
German members of the SS, who ran the camps, gave testimony as to what took
place there. I have seen documentaries as recently as the 1980s in which
former SS members testified to the mass executions.
Adolph Eichmann, the SS head of the extermination program, gave testimony
clearly admitting his role in the Holocaust, after he was captured by
Israelis in Argentina and tried and hung in Israel.
To give any substance to a Holocaust Denial, it would seem to me that an
explanation must be given as to how those sly and crafty Jews persuaded
thousands of people to lie about it. Including the Germans who went to the
gallows for their admissions.
RO
.
User: "DCI"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 10:10:01 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:59:37 -0500, "Ron O'Neal" <roneal@wt.net>
wrote:


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OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in

the

same night? How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving a
trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and

night?

How does the Tooth Fairy know you lost a tooth? Why wouldn't you send your
kids to a majority black school?

GP



I'll ignore the Santa/Easter Bunny stuff, since the topic I challenged was
the Holocaust denial. But I suspect you knew that.

The largest mechanized death camps were far East in Poland: Auschwitz,
Treblinka, Belsec, Sobibor and Chelmno. They were NOT, as you stated,
bombed day and night. The first bombing priority of the Allies were cities
and plants supplying the German war effort. Do some more and deeper reading
on the subject.

Physical evidence was seen and photographed by advancing Allied armies. The
crematoria had been demolished by explosives. The barracks of the inmates
had not been destroyed. Allied personnel gave documented statements at
Nuremburg. Surviving inmates of the camps gave testimony in Nuremburg as
well.

German members of the SS, who ran the camps, gave testimony as to what took
place there. I have seen documentaries as recently as the 1980s in which
former SS members testified to the mass executions.

Adolph Eichmann, the SS head of the extermination program, gave testimony
clearly admitting his role in the Holocaust, after he was captured by
Israelis in Argentina and tried and hung in Israel.

To give any substance to a Holocaust Denial, it would seem to me that an
explanation must be given as to how those sly and crafty Jews persuaded
thousands of people to lie about it. Including the Germans who went to the
gallows for their admissions.

RO


For a good ad quick read, one which leads to others sources to verify
the Holocaust:
"Why People Believe Weird Things"
by
Michael Shermer
DCI
.

User: "Jimmuh"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 05:39:07 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:59:37 -0500, "Ron O'Neal" <roneal@wt.net>
wrote:

To give any substance to a Holocaust Denial, it would seem to me that an
explanation must be given as to how those sly and crafty Jews persuaded
thousands of people to lie about it. Including the Germans who went to the
gallows for their admissions.

LOL!
.


User: "Zizek!"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 08:53:54 PM
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects
the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.


Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave us
a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.



You disappoint me. I thought you might try to rebut with some kind of
supporting evidence AGAINST Racial equality and Gender equality, or
evidence
FOR the "Myth" of the Holocaust.


OK, I'll get you started. How could Santa visit millions of homes all in
the same night? How could the Germans gas millions of Jews without leaving
a trace of physical or documentary evidence while being bombed day and
night? How does the Tooth Fairy know you lost a tooth? Why wouldn't you
send your kids to a majority black school?

GP

http://www.nizkor.org/features/qar/qar01.html
.



User: "Billy"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 06:59:52 PM
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the

lies

and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP


Your adage about intelligence and fables may be correct. Your list of
fables is not.


Still hung up on the Easter Bunny? I don't blame you. He always gave us a
big solid chocolate version of himself...yummy.

Evolution proves the Easter bunny is real.
.



User: "slas"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 01:02:53 PM
Godzilla Pimp wrote:

You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the lies
and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something like
this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP

Intelligent right-wingers
.

User: "Blazing Laser"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 10:17:50 PM
How about:
Spending more and taxing less will balance the budget.
Trickle-down economics works.
Star Wars will work.
Our founding fathers were evangelical, fundamentalist Christians and
meant for the country to be based on their particular stripe of
Christianity.
Clinton was the most liberal president we've ever had.
Clinton murdered staff members, imported drugs, and sold nuclear
secrets to the Chinese.
The invasion and occupation of Iraq is a necessary part of the war on
terror (or even -related- to the war on terror).
The occupation was well-planned.
The occupation is going well.
Presdent Bush has done a good job on . . . well anything, actually.
Talk about the strange things -liberals- believe! 8^)
.
User: "WhewNotSaved"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 20 Aug 2006 05:03:15 PM
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How about:

Spending more and taxing less will balance the budget.

Trickle-down economics works.

Star Wars will work.> meant for the country to be based on their
particular stripe of
Christianity.

Clinton was the most liberal president we've ever had.

Clinton murdered staff members, imported drugs, and sold nuclear
secrets to the Chinese.


Our founding fathers were evangelical, fundamentalist Christians and
The invasion and occupation of Iraq is a necessary part of the war on
terror (or even -related- to the war on terror).

The occupation was well-planned.

The occupation is going well.

Presdent Bush has done a good job on . . . well anything, actually.

Take your ignorant off topic fairy tale posts to an appropriate group.
You're stupid and your mother sucks ***** in hell.... and, eat me.



Talk about the strange things -liberals- believe! 8^)

.
User: "Blazing Laser"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 21 Aug 2006 12:09:53 AM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:03:15 -0700, "WhewNotSaved"
<WhewNotSaved@gmail.com> wrote:

Take your ignorant off topic fairy tale posts to an appropriate group.
You're stupid and your mother sucks ***** in hell.... and, eat me.

Ever notice how when neo-cons can't defend their beliefs they get
ugly? 8^)




Talk about the strange things -liberals- believe! 8^)


.



User: "joalhabie"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 03:47:17 PM
Moon landing?
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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the
lies and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes something
like this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy
Easter Bunny
Santa Claus
Jesus
God
Marx
Racial equality
Gender equality
The Holocaust

GP





.
User: "What, Me Worry?"

Title: Re: How far have you gotten? 19 Aug 2006 05:34:13 PM
Sinking of the Maine was an accident
http://www.randomhouse.com/features/americancentury/lure.html
Pearl Harbor coverup/censorship
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/pearlharbor.htm#PearlHarbor
OKC government coverup
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/
9/11 WTC explosive demolition, government complicity
http://www.oilempire.us/911.html#best
Trickle down economics is a lie and a failed policy
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/war/trickle_down.htm
Federal Reserve Bank is greatest scam ever perpetrated on the public
http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/baker/baker1.html
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Moon landing?

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You can gage the intelligence of a person by how quickly he detects the
lies and fables he was raised with. The progression usually goes
something like this (few people ever get to the end).

Tooth Fairy

Helps young ones endure the pain of losing baby teeth.

Easter Bunny

Just bizarre.

Santa Claus

Nice idea, makes the kids happy.

Jesus

Had some great ideas. Too bad His followers have completely turned away
from His teachings.

God

Who?

Marx

Wasn't totally wrong.

Racial equality

Is never going to happen.

Gender equality

Religious extremists will never tolerate it.

The Holocaust

Survivors all claim the same thing. Photos and films all show evidence.
http://www.holocaust-history.org/denial-hoax/
.



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