Politics > Politics-USA > Hundreds of Army soldiers get a bill from George W. Bush after being wounded at war
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Hundreds of Army soldiers get a bill from George W. Bush after being wounded at war |
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
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14 Oct 2005 12:39:30 PM |
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"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt.
Is it any surprise? Bush hates soldiers who serve in combat, because the
remind him of his own cowardice.
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14 Oct 2005 01:06:43 PM |
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"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
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This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
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14 Oct 2005 06:25:41 PM |
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
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This has been standard ops for the military since wwII.
*****.
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14 Oct 2005 02:35:27 PM |
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"SyVyN11" <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
Because bush is a ***** with ears?
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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15 Oct 2005 04:00:04 AM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican SyVyN11 <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote:
: "JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
: news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
: > For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
: > Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
: > By Donna St. George
: > Washington Post Staff Writer
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: > His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
: > could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
: > Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
: > intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
: >
: > The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
: > correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
: > of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
: > properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
: >
: > But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
: > and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
: > debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
: > scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
: > He owed another $646 for military housing.
: >
: > "I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
: > Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
: > me for money."...
: >
: > < SNIP
: This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
: any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
: >
It's Bush's fault because the looney tune brain dead loser lib dem that made the
post hates Bush.
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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15 Oct 2005 04:24:49 AM |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:DtOdnck9F62JWM3eRVn-pg@giganews.com...
In alt.politics.usa.republican SyVyN11 <711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote:
: "JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
: news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
: > For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
: > Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
: > By Donna St. George
: > Washington Post Staff Writer
: >
: > His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
: > could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
: > Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
: > intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
: >
: > The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
: > correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
: > of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
: > properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
: >
: > But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
: > and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
: > debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
: > scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
: > He owed another $646 for military housing.
: >
: > "I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
: > Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
: > me for money."...
: >
: > < SNIP
: This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
: any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
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It's Bush's fault because the looney tune brain dead loser lib dem that
made the
post hates Bush.
No you dumb *****, it's Bush's fault because he's a liar.
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14 Oct 2005 04:47:00 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:06:43 +0000, SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
Since WWII, exactly how many Democratic Presidents have there been.
Eisenhower Republican 1953-1961 7 years
Kennedy Democrat 1961-1963 1 year 10 months
Johnson Democrat 1963-1969 6 years
Nixon Republican 1969-1974 4 years
Ford Republican 1974-1977 3 years
Carter Democrat 1977-1981 4 years
Reagan Republican 1981-1989 8 years
Bush sr. Republican 1989-1993 4 years
Clinton Republican 1993-1999 8 years
Bush Republican 1999-2005 5 years
31 years 20 years
Have I missed any? It looks to me that the Republican Party Controlled the
Presidency for 30 years out of 51. It seems the Republicans have had much
more time in office and should have been the ones to make the necessary
changes. But of course it would be improper for a businessmen to pay
reasonable costs.
--
"I will bring honor to the process and honor to the office I seek. I will
remind Al Gore that Americans do not want a White House where there is 'no
controlling legal authority.' I will repair the broken bonds of trust
between Americans and their government."
George W. Bush, March 7, 2000
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14 Oct 2005 05:58:51 PM |
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"d2e2" <de22@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:06:43 +0000, SyVyN11 wrote:
Since WWII, exactly how many Democratic Presidents have there been.
Eisenhower Republican 1953-1961 7 years
Kennedy Democrat 1961-1963 1 year 10 months
Johnson Democrat 1963-1969 6 years
Nixon Republican 1969-1974 4 years
Ford Republican 1974-1977 3 years
Carter Democrat 1977-1981 4 years
Reagan Republican 1981-1989 8 years
Bush sr. Republican 1989-1993 4 years
Clinton Republican 1993-1999 8 years
Bush Republican 1999-2005 5 years
31 years 20 years
Have I missed any? It looks to me that the Republican Party Controlled the
Presidency for 30 years out of 51. It seems the Republicans have had much
more time in office and should have been the ones to make the necessary
changes. But of course it would be improper for a businessmen to pay
reasonable costs.
so in your 'logic', since no democratic president did anything about it,
because they weren't in office as much, therefore it is the fault of
republicans? You cannot blame one or the other, you got to blame both.
You libs cannot have it both ways!
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"I will bring honor to the process and honor to the office I seek. I will
remind Al Gore that Americans do not want a White House where there is 'no
controlling legal authority.' I will repair the broken bonds of trust
between Americans and their government."
George W. Bush, March 7, 2000
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14 Oct 2005 06:11:15 PM |
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d2e2 wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:06:43 +0000, SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
Since WWII, exactly how many Democratic Presidents have there been.
Eisenhower Republican 1953-1961 7 years
Kennedy Democrat 1961-1963 1 year 10 months
Johnson Democrat 1963-1969 6 years
Nixon Republican 1969-1974 4 years
Ford Republican 1974-1977 3 years
Carter Democrat 1977-1981 4 years
Reagan Republican 1981-1989 8 years
Bush sr. Republican 1989-1993 4 years
Clinton Republican 1993-1999 8 years
Bush Republican 1999-2005 5 years
31 years 20 years
Have I missed any? It looks to me that the Republican Party Controlled the
Presidency for 30 years out of 51. It seems the Republicans have had much
more time in office and should have been the ones to make the necessary
changes. But of course it would be improper for a businessmen to pay
reasonable costs.
--
"I will bring honor to the process and honor to the office I seek. I will
remind Al Gore that Americans do not want a White House where there is 'no
controlling legal authority.' I will repair the broken bonds of trust
between Americans and their government."
George W. Bush, March 7, 2000
Bill Clinton was not a Republican....
Dave
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14 Oct 2005 06:15:25 PM |
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On 14 Oct 2005 16:11:15 -0700, "DaveDeWolfe"
<dave-dewolfe@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
d2e2 wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:06:43 +0000, SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
Since WWII, exactly how many Democratic Presidents have there been.
Eisenhower Republican 1953-1961 7 years
Kennedy Democrat 1961-1963 1 year 10 months
Johnson Democrat 1963-1969 6 years
Nixon Republican 1969-1974 4 years
Ford Republican 1974-1977 3 years
Carter Democrat 1977-1981 4 years
Reagan Republican 1981-1989 8 years
Bush sr. Republican 1989-1993 4 years
Clinton Republican 1993-1999 8 years
Bush Republican 1999-2005 5 years
31 years 20 years
Have I missed any? It looks to me that the Republican Party Controlled the
Presidency for 30 years out of 51. It seems the Republicans have had much
more time in office and should have been the ones to make the necessary
changes. But of course it would be improper for a businessmen to pay
reasonable costs.
--
"I will bring honor to the process and honor to the office I seek. I will
remind Al Gore that Americans do not want a White House where there is 'no
controlling legal authority.' I will repair the broken bonds of trust
between Americans and their government."
George W. Bush, March 7, 2000
Bill Clinton was not a Republican....
Dave
That means only 22 of 51 years that the Republicans had the Whitehouse
for you Leftists out there.
Regards
Starkiller©
http://taker15king.clicdev.com/f/index.php?act=idx
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14 Oct 2005 02:39:55 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:06:43 GMT, "SyVyN11"
<711robhorine@earthlink.net> wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
That's right! The fact that Bush personally is the stupidest and most
vicious pig ever to enter American public life does not prove that he
engineered the US-planned coups and massacres in Nicaragua, Guatemala,
DR Congo, Indonesia, Dominican Republic, Iran, and others too numerous
to mention without running out of breath that have been the fruit of
American military culture for the past century.
The world will doubtless be a better place when you're all gone. If we
can recover from the damage you've caused.
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16 Oct 2005 11:57:46 PM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
RT
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17 Oct 2005 10:08:01 AM |
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"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy. Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush for
this.
RT
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18 Oct 2005 09:58:38 PM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy. Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where this
"standard" is codified.
RT
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
RT
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
RT
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by
shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery
at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up
against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was
out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted
for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a
$6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started
calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired
from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's
fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush
for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where
this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
I know it wasn't the bush administration the enacted it.
RT
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25 Oct 2005 10:22:21 PM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by
shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery
at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up
against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was
out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted
for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a
$6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started
calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired
from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's
fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush
for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where
this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
I know it wasn't the bush administration the enacted it.
Ahem. WHERE is it codified???? You're making the claim, back up your mouth.
RT
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26 Oct 2005 06:01:19 AM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by
shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long
recovery
at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up
against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he
was
out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been
accounted
for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished
his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a
$6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several
lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started
calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired
from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve
to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then
why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's
fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military
policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush
for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where
this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
I know it wasn't the bush administration the enacted it.
Ahem. WHERE is it codified???? You're making the claim, back up your
mouth.
RT
where is is codified that bush enacted it. that is your sides original
claim.
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30 Oct 2005 05:45:16 PM |
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"Rich Travsky" <" traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
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SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
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For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by
shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long
recovery
at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up
against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he
was
out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been
accounted
for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished
his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a
$6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several
lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started
calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired
from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve
to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then
why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's
fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military
policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush
for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where
this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
I know it wasn't the bush administration the enacted it.
Ahem. WHERE is it codified???? You're making the claim, back up your
mouth.
RT
where is is codified that bush enacted it. that is your sides original
claim.
Enacted *what*???? You said it's a military policy to bill military
personnel for their treatment. WHAT policy?
RT
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Enacted *what*???? You said it's a military policy to bill military
personnel for their treatment. WHAT policy?
RT
And you said it was bush policy. What policy.
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SyVyN11 wrote:
Enacted *what*???? You said it's a military policy to bill military
personnel for their treatment. WHAT policy?
RT
And you said it was bush policy. What policy.
Nope. I said no such thing.
Here's the material you deleted:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by
shrapnel.
He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long
recovery
at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up
against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he
was
out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been
accounted
for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished
his
wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a
$6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several
lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started
calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired
from
the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve
to
ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then
why
haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's
fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
The point is that this is not a bush policy, it is a military
policy.
Not
saying that it is right, it's not. But you cannot just blame Bush
for
this.
You said it's standard to bill troops for their care. Show us where
this
"standard" is codified.
ask the military. By the way, i think it's wrong.
I'm asking you. You're the one who said it's a military policy, you
must know something about it then.
I know it wasn't the bush administration the enacted it.
Ahem. WHERE is it codified???? You're making the claim, back up your
mouth.
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Rich Travsky wrote:
SyVyN11 wrote:
"JOE" <eat@joes.net> wrote in message
news:k6mvk1t9ieng9hg4kceuva1fjfkgr5or4j@4ax.com...
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
< SNIP
This has been standard ops for the military since wwII. Then why haven't
any of the great dem presidents reversed this, why is it GWB's fault?
It's standard to bill troops for their treatment????
Clinton didn't reverse it because HE WASN'T GETTING U.S. SOLDIERS KILLED.
--
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do,
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
- Susan B. Anthony, 1896
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JOE <eat@joes.net> wrote:
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel.
That'll teach him to invade innocent countries and kill children.
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Bush is a Christian. Get over it!
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
JOE <eat@joes.net> wrote:
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel.
That'll teach him to invade innocent countries and kill children.
What innocent country did he invade and what children did he kill? Oh -
you're lying. Nevermind.
mj
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17 Oct 2005 12:19:07 AM |
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JOE wrote:
For Injured U.S. Troops, 'Financial Friendly Fire'
Flaws in Pay System Lead to Dunning, Credit Trouble
By Donna St. George
Washington Post Staff Writer
His hand had been blown off in Iraq, his body pierced by shrapnel. He
could not walk. Robert Loria was flown home for a long recovery at
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where he tried to bear up against
intense physical pain and reimagine his life's possibilities.
The last thing on his mind, he said, was whether the Army had
correctly adjusted his pay rate -- downgrading it because he was out
of the war zone -- or whether his combat gear had been accounted for
properly: his Kevlar helmet, his suspenders, his rucksack.
But nine months after Loria was wounded, the Army garnished his wages
and then, as he prepared to leave the service, hit him with a $6,200
debt. That was just before last Christmas, and several lawmakers
scrambled to help. This spring, a collection agency started calling.
He owed another $646 for military housing.
"I was shocked," recalled Loria, now 28 and medically retired from the
Army. "After everything that went on, they still had the nerve to ask
me for money."...
So sorry to be the bearer of bad news to mewling masses, but even if
you've been wounded in combat, you're not allowed to steal from the
government. Sorry!
SWS
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