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"Unpleasant Truth" |
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22 Sep 2004 01:04:26 AM |
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IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for law-and-order!
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
22 Sep 2004 06:33:24 AM |
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"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
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| User: "Ichabod" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 10:31:25 PM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
? who's Osamas? lol...right.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
24 Sep 2004 10:27:03 AM |
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"Ichabod" <sgfsdfgfl@gffgdfafs.iq> wrote in message
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? who's Osamas? lol...right.
If you don't know who Osama is then you need professional help.
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| User: "Tom Betz" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
22 Sep 2004 10:18:52 AM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8qd4d.6138$2A1.1404@trnddc08:
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter.
That is a lie.
We negotiated. We inspected.
In fact, UN inspectors were on the ground in Iraq, doing their job,
bulldozing Samoud missiles, when Bush let slip that the US was going to
invade Iraq illegally -- AFTER a legally-required UN Security council
vote that never happened -- no matter the outcome of that Security
Council vote.
From <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/02/wirq02.xml>
Iraq began decommissioning its arsenal of banned al-Samoud 2
missiles last night as ministers disclosed to The Telegraph that
America and Britain are prepared to launch military action
immediately after the United Nations Security Council votes on a
second resolution, regardless of its outcome.
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq was a criminal act from the beginning.
And then we kicked their *****.
For some very small value of "their".
Our ***** is in a global sling as a result of Bush's criminal War of
Choice on Iraq.
The only hope of getting our ***** out of Iraq intact is to replace the
Criminal in Chief. John Kerry doesn't bear the international taint
that Bush bears, and may, just may, be able to negotiate us out of this
mess.
At this point, Kerry is our last hope.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
22 Sep 2004 01:12:40 PM |
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"Tom Betz" <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956C73189A759greenriverordinance@166.84.1.69...
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8qd4d.6138$2A1.1404@trnddc08:
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter.
That is a lie.
Then PROVE we didn't follow the law to the letter. PLease also state which
law(s) we allegedly broke.
We negotiated. We inspected.
In fact, UN inspectors were on the ground in Iraq, doing their job,
bulldozing Samoud missiles, when Bush let slip that the US was going to
invade Iraq illegally -- AFTER a legally-required UN Security council
vote that never happened -- no matter the outcome of that Security
Council vote.
Iraq was ALREADY in violation of 19 Resolutions.
From
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/02/wirq02.xml>
Iraq began decommissioning its arsenal of banned al-Samoud 2
missiles last night as ministers disclosed to The Telegraph that
America and Britain are prepared to launch military action
immediately after the United Nations Security Council votes on a
second resolution, regardless of its outcome.
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq was a criminal act from the beginning.
Prove it....
And then we kicked their *****.
For some very small value of "their".
Our ***** is in a global sling as a result of Bush's criminal War of
Choice on Iraq.
Pleae explain how the US is in some kind of global problem. Be objective.
The only hope of getting our ***** out of Iraq intact is to replace the
Criminal in Chief. John Kerry doesn't bear the international taint
that Bush bears, and may, just may, be able to negotiate us out of this
mess.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!
At this point, Kerry is our last hope.
Last choice, more like.
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| User: "Tom Betz" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 06:09:45 AM |
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Quoth "Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> in news:sgj4d.9353$je.9285
@trnddc04:
Then PROVE we didn't follow the law to the letter. PLease also
state which law(s) we allegedly broke.
The UN charter is, as is every other duly signed and Senate-confirmed
international treaty, the law of the land, per the US Constitution.
Iraq was ALREADY in violation of 19 Resolutions.
Cite a single UN Security Council resolution passed after 1991 that
specifially authorized the US to invade Iraq.
Without such an authorizing resolution (the reason the second UN vote
was required, and why Bush promised to obtain such a vote before
Congress would pass the Joint Resolution Bush used as cover for the
invasion), the US was in violation of the UN charter which prohibits
invasion of nations who did not attack us.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
For the facts on Iraq, see <http://optruth.org>.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 11:17:16 AM |
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"Tom Betz" <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Quoth "Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> in news:sgj4d.9353$je.9285
@trnddc04:
Then PROVE we didn't follow the law to the letter. PLease also
state which law(s) we allegedly broke.
The UN charter is, as is every other duly signed and Senate-confirmed
international treaty, the law of the land, per the US Constitution.
Really? You mean we had the UN around back then when we came up with the
Constitution????
Dummy.....
Iraq was ALREADY in violation of 19 Resolutions.
Cite a single UN Security Council resolution passed after 1991 that
specifially authorized the US to invade Iraq.
I never claimed there was one. Instead the last Resolution permitted the US
to disarm Iraq, by force if necessary.
Without such an authorizing resolution (the reason the second UN vote
was required, and why Bush promised to obtain such a vote before
Congress would pass the Joint Resolution Bush used as cover for the
invasion), the US was in violation of the UN charter which prohibits
invasion of nations who did not attack us.
I'm taking LAW, not Charter. International Law. We are not in violation of
any international law.
The UN Security Council FAILED to hold a second vote. That isn't Bush's
responsibility.
The initial Resolution provided for enforcement of previous Resolutions and
DID NOT prohibit the use of force.
End of story.
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| User: "Robert R." |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 07:16:18 PM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<gGC4d.8977$Bg5.8957@trnddc07>...
"Tom Betz" <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956D48E6B148Agreenriverordinance@166.84.1.69...
The UN charter is, as is every other duly signed and Senate-confirmed
international treaty, the law of the land, per the US Constitution.
Really? You mean we had the UN around back then when we came up with the
Constitution????
Christ all-fucking-mighty. It's too bad we can't just ship this
braying dunce off to Namibia or Afghanistan and exchange him for
someone who actually deserves to be an American citizen.
Since you apparently failed fifth grade civics, here's the relevant
passage:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
made in Pursuance thereof; ***and all Treaties made, or which shall be
made, under the Authority of the United States***, shall be the
supreme Law of the Land. . ."
-- United States Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2
Dummy.....
I'll say.
Robert R.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
24 Sep 2004 10:28:22 AM |
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"Robert R." <robertr1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d6295449.0409231616.176ffd0f@posting.google.com...
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<gGC4d.8977$Bg5.8957@trnddc07>...
"Tom Betz" <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956D48E6B148Agreenriverordinance@166.84.1.69...
The UN charter is, as is every other duly signed and Senate-confirmed
international treaty, the law of the land, per the US Constitution.
Really? You mean we had the UN around back then when we came up with
the
Constitution????
Christ all-fucking-mighty. It's too bad we can't just ship this
braying dunce off to Namibia or Afghanistan and exchange him for
someone who actually deserves to be an American citizen.
Since you apparently failed fifth grade civics, here's the relevant
passage:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be
made in Pursuance thereof; ***and all Treaties made, or which shall be
made, under the Authority of the United States***, shall be the
supreme Law of the Land. . ."
-- United States Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2
Dummy.....
I'll say.
And therefore the Congressional vote to go to War WAS THE LAW OF THE LAND.
Dummy.
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| User: "Tom Betz" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 08:57:27 AM |
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Quoth "Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> in news:sgj4d.9353$je.9285
@trnddc04:
Then PROVE we didn't follow the law to the letter. PLease also
state which law(s) we allegedly broke.
The UN charter is, as is every other duly signed and Senate-confirmed
international treaty, the law of the land, per the US Constitution.
Iraq was ALREADY in violation of 19 Resolutions.
Cite a single UN Security Council resolution passed after 1991 that
specifically authorized the US to invade Iraq.
Without such an authorizing resolution (the reason the second UN vote
was required, and why Bush promised to obtain such a vote before
Congress would pass the Joint Resolution Bush used as cover for the
invasion), the US was in violation of the UN charter which prohibits
invasion of nations who did not attack us.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
.
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| User: "LastChance" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 12:54:06 AM |
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The one that says GW Bush is not the Policeman of the World, and he does not
have right to go blowup what ever he damn well pleases law.
Or the Impersonating Baghdad Bob law. Everything is FINE law. The economy
is getting better and better law.
Enough said
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sgj4d.9353$je.9285@trnddc04...
"Tom Betz" <spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956C73189A759greenriverordinance@166.84.1.69...
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8qd4d.6138$2A1.1404@trnddc08:
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter.
That is a lie.
Then PROVE we didn't follow the law to the letter. PLease also state
which
law(s) we allegedly broke.
We negotiated. We inspected.
In fact, UN inspectors were on the ground in Iraq, doing their job,
bulldozing Samoud missiles, when Bush let slip that the US was going to
invade Iraq illegally -- AFTER a legally-required UN Security council
vote that never happened -- no matter the outcome of that Security
Council vote.
Iraq was ALREADY in violation of 19 Resolutions.
From
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/02/wirq02.xml>
Iraq began decommissioning its arsenal of banned al-Samoud 2
missiles last night as ministers disclosed to The Telegraph that
America and Britain are prepared to launch military action
immediately after the United Nations Security Council votes on a
second resolution, regardless of its outcome.
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq was a criminal act from the
beginning.
Prove it....
And then we kicked their *****.
For some very small value of "their".
Our ***** is in a global sling as a result of Bush's criminal War of
Choice on Iraq.
Pleae explain how the US is in some kind of global problem. Be objective.
The only hope of getting our ***** out of Iraq intact is to replace the
Criminal in Chief. John Kerry doesn't bear the international taint
that Bush bears, and may, just may, be able to negotiate us out of this
mess.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!
At this point, Kerry is our last hope.
Last choice, more like.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 11:08:19 AM |
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"LastChance" <mmm@msn.com> wrote in message
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The one that says GW Bush is not the Policeman of the World, and he does
not
have right to go blowup what ever he damn well pleases law.
There is NO SUCH Law.
If you weren't stupid you'd know that International Law DOES NOT prohibit
preemption.
Or the Impersonating Baghdad Bob law. Everything is FINE law. The
economy
is getting better and better law.
The economy IS getting better. Its a fact.
Enough said
Yes, indeed, since you already made a complete drooling fool of yourself.
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
22 Sep 2004 08:06:48 AM |
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Crazy ***** wrote:
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote:
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
Just like Hitler kicked Poland and Czechoslovakia. What great
victories for the Homeland! While the neocons only dream of a
century, rather than a thousand year reich, the fat lady hasn't
sung in Iraq yet.
--Jeff
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Often war is waged only in order to
show valor; thus an inner dignity is
ascribed to war itself, and even some
philosophers have praised it as an
ennoblement of humanity, forgetting the
pronouncement of the Greek who said,
"War is an evil in as much as it produces
more wicked men than it takes away."
--Immanuel Kant
Americans will always do the right thing
- after they have exhausted every other
possibility. --Winston Churchill
Loyalty to the country always, loyalty
to the government when it deserves it.
--Mark Twain
I was against gay marriage until I found
out I didn't have to have one.
--James Carville
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
22 Sep 2004 11:01:49 AM |
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"Jeffrey Turner" <jturner@localnet.com> wrote in message
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Crazy ***** wrote:
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote:
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We
inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
Just like Hitler kicked Poland and Czechoslovakia. What great
victories for the Homeland! While the neocons only dream of a
century, rather than a thousand year reich, the fat lady hasn't
sung in Iraq yet.
Thank you for sharing your Fat Nazi Woman Sex Fantasy with us.
Is her name Hitlery Clinton?
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| User: "LastChance" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 12:48:22 AM |
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OK - That's obvious from the footage from the past few days....BUT
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8qd4d.6138$2A1.1404@trnddc08...
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: IF, WRT IRAQ WAR, DUMBYA HAD BELIEVED IN RULE OF LAW ... |
23 Sep 2004 11:17:24 AM |
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"LastChance" <mmm@msn.com> wrote in message
news:oeWdnUhLF4E1_s_cRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
OK - That's obvious from the footage from the past few days....BUT
You'll like this site.
Its probably already your Home Page.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/nov2002/un-n09.shtml
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8qd4d.6138$2A1.1404@trnddc08...
"Unpleasant Truth" <unpleazant_truth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2083fd5d.0409212204.2011b744@posting.google.com...
maybe he wouldn't be NOW in a position of begging the world for
law-and-order!
Not really.
We followed the rule of law to the letter. We negotiated. We
inspected.
We passed UN Resolution after UN Resolution. We negotiated more.
And then we kicked their *****.
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