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"Ramon F Herrera" |
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07 Nov 2006 11:59:57 AM |
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Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
In Monday's USA Today, they published side-by-side articles by the
leaders of the two mainstream parties. Politicians are notorious for
talking about every single topic, but when they have the chance to
address a nationwide readership though the most popular newspaper, they
opted to avoid the immigration issue. Not so much as a single word
about it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-democrats_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-republicans_x.htm
We were led to believe by the anti-immigration, anti-latino crowd that
the american voter was overwhelmingly on their side.
So: Where is the rage? Where is the coup d'etat?
-Ramon
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| User: "GeekBoy" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 12:39:24 PM |
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Because there is no immigration issue.
However there is an illegal alien issue
"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:1162922397.309653.168180@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
In Monday's USA Today, they published side-by-side articles by the
leaders of the two mainstream parties. Politicians are notorious for
talking about every single topic, but when they have the chance to
address a nationwide readership though the most popular newspaper, they
opted to avoid the immigration issue. Not so much as a single word
about it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-democrats_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-republicans_x.htm
We were led to believe by the anti-immigration, anti-latino crowd that
the american voter was overwhelmingly on their side.
So: Where is the rage? Where is the coup d'etat?
-Ramon
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 12:43:05 PM |
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GeekBoy wrote:
Because there is no immigration issue.
However there is an illegal alien issue
Whatever. The words "illegal alien" are not mentioned, either.
-Ramon
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| User: "Don Gabacho" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 02:12:02 PM |
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Ramon F Herrera wrote:
GeekBoy wrote:
Because there is no immigration issue.
However there is an illegal alien issue
Whatever. The words "illegal alien" are not mentioned, either.
-Ramon
They didn't have to.
Accept for judgeships, every political television commercial in this
state began with "I am against illegal immigration" or not.
Thus, I voted nearly a straight Republican ticket (for the first time
in my life) except in one case: for the sole Democrat who stated "I am
against illegal immigration": the State's Commissioner of Labor.
They never "talked" about it, because they never had to.
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 03:55:58 PM |
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Don Gabacho wrote:
They didn't have to.
They never "talked" about it, because they never had to.
(Twilight Zone music playing in the background, the Don donning a
tinfoil hat)
Hearing those voices again, are ya'?
-Ramon
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 12:58:28 PM |
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GeekBoy wrote:
Because there is no immigration issue.
However there is an illegal alien issue
Once again, Geek Boy :
Should we then rename this NG to:
alt.politics.illegal-aliens?
-Ramon
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| User: "Angrie.Woman" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 01:30:08 PM |
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Ramon F Herrera wrote:
In Monday's USA Today, they published side-by-side articles by the
leaders of the two mainstream parties. Politicians are notorious for
talking about every single topic, but when they have the chance to
address a nationwide readership though the most popular newspaper, they
opted to avoid the immigration issue. Not so much as a single word
about it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-democrats_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-republicans_x.htm
We were led to believe by the anti-immigration, anti-latino crowd that
the american voter was overwhelmingly on their side.
So: Where is the rage? Where is the coup d'etat?
-Ramon
What makes you think the DNC / RNC are speaking for the citizens?
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| User: "Don Gabacho" |
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07 Nov 2006 04:19:35 PM |
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Angrie.Woman wrote:
What makes you think the DNC / RNC are speaking for the citizens?
Good point. Both parties, along with the media, are not discussing
so-called "immigration" because they know that it's the hottest issue
of all and are worried that they have---all---fucked up.
The television commercials here in my state have all began with an "I
am against illegal immigration" (or similar) or NOTHING AT ALL.
No one---absolutely no one---ran an ad saying that they were (even if
they are or have been) for illegal immigration in any way, shape or
form.
They are hoping on hope that anti-Iraq War sentiment will override
anti-illegal immigration sentiment as if one should be exclusive of the
other.
They hardly wished to remind anyone, given how shaky pro-illegal
sentiment has become, that they could be pro-illegal immigration.
At least here, it is, at least since the Day the Mexican Consulate
engineered their idiot demonstrations of Mexican flag wavers, it was
all that needed to be 'said'.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Immigration issue is not even mentioned by DNC/RNC |
07 Nov 2006 12:31:12 PM |
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Watch how things shape up after the election.
Ramon F Herrera wrote:
In Monday's USA Today, they published side-by-side articles by the
leaders of the two mainstream parties. Politicians are notorious for
talking about every single topic, but when they have the chance to
address a nationwide readership though the most popular newspaper, they
opted to avoid the immigration issue. Not so much as a single word
about it.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-democrats_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-11-05-vote-republicans_x.htm
We were led to believe by the anti-immigration, anti-latino crowd that
the american voter was overwhelmingly on their side.
So: Where is the rage? Where is the coup d'etat?
-Ramon
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| User: "" |
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07 Nov 2006 02:59:26 PM |
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wrote:
Watch how things shape up after the election.
Yawn. Same old stupid rednecks making the same old stupid threats that
they cannot carry out.
Like this moron:
**TROLLWATCH ADVISORY**
The new Billy Cmelak "Tribute" Photo Site is up at
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
(715) 484-3029
His next of kin that needs to be notified of his outlandish behavior
and to help Cmelak to get his meds adjusted:
Alberta Cmelak
25121 Armagosa Dr.
Laguna Niguel, CA 92677
Fat Billy also has relatives named George Cmelak and Robert Cmelak.
Their whereabouts are unknown, but can most likely be found in a
homeless shelter somewhere.
William A. "Bill" Cmelak is the infamous troll who posts as
Hoo...@Spamcop.net and various other aliases - Hoodini, Shrike, and a
host of others.
Cmelak, or "Little Willie" as his ex-wife Lori used to call him when
discussing his sexual abilities, is an unattractive, overweight 55-year
old man (think in terms of Haystacks
Calhoun with bad teeth) living in the small town of Antigo, Wisconsin.
Harboring a desire to flee to warmer climates, poor finances have
constrained Cmelak to a life in various rural parts of Wisconsin. A
wannabe outdoorsman and "frugal living" enthusiast, Cmelak's cheap
lifestyle has been encouraged by a series of debts and resulting
lawsuits that he incurred in recent years (go to
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/ and search for "William Cmelak" for a portion
of his legal problems). Were it not for a piece of property that
Cmelak inherited from an elderly relative in Antigo he would
undoubtedly be homeless today.
Variously listing his occupation as "foole" and as "self-made nobody"
Cmelak suffers from extremely low self esteem. His current occupation
is unknown but is believed to be clerk at a convenience store. Cmelak
has a strong jealously of those that he feels are more
successful than himself and his standard trolls include distortion of
the facts (he will make up financial records of his victims while not
mentioning that he is a debtor, for instance). Falsification of
newsgroup posts and email correspondence, are known tactics of Cmelak.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF CMELAK WRITES IT, ASSUME THAT IT IS A LIE.
Cmelak has been known to work in conjunction with other trolls,
including the equally infamous Karen Anderson troll (Karen Anderson
becomes infatuated with men that she has never met. To date, she has
stalked between 5 and 7 men that she has meet, often under platonic
circumstances, online).
Cmelak has also been know to work in conjunction with anti-Mexican
racists, an unsavory group that he feels that he can draw support from.
Cmelak is a voracious reader, particularly of fiction, as would be
typical of a loner living a frugal lifestyle in a cold climate. Cmelak
is described by neighbors as being a loner, "weird," and generally
antisocial. There is no evidence that he dates or has shown any
interest in women since his wife left him circa 1995. Small children
and barnyard animals may be at risk if left alone with Cmelak.
Cmelak is a model airplane enthusiast and actively involved in the
geocaching community, where he can often be found hiding "treasure
troves" for GPS equipped enthusiasts. Think in terms of hide and seek
for near-adults.
William Cmelak
N9340 Pickerel Creek Rd
Pearson, WI 54462-8140
Keywords: Stalker, crackhead, rapist, redneck, trailer trash, high
school dropout, mental illness, dementia, welfare queen, bum, balding,
obese, retard, Hoodoo, Shrike, troll, loner, loser
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:41:20 PM |
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wrote:
Watch how things shape up after the election.
[Ramon wrote:]
"If these people are "least wanted", with the White House, the Senate,
all churches, the government of Mexico, Hollywood, mainstream media all
catering to them [...]"
[j89q8hm02 retorted:]
Just wait and watch the worm turn. The polling data makes it clear.
It's funny how quickly your friends can evaporate in politics.
J89:
So which of the supporters will be the first to betray the immigrants?
The churches? Business? The media? Hollywood? The Democrats? The
Republicans? The White House? The government of Mexico?
Remember that an 180-degree turn reflects very bad on any organization.
-Ramon
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| User: "Ramon F Herrera" |
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07 Nov 2006 12:35:34 PM |
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wrote:
Watch how things shape up after the election.
Any specific prediction for us to watch with attention? Didn't you say
that the immigrants will be betrayed by their supporters?
-Ramon
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