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"Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest", while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am. My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling, his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said, 'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being stupid."
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
26 Apr 2004 09:56:06 AM |
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Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake of
human progress and world security.
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
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Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or
get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest", while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in
post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting
in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there
killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were
sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am. My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling, his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is
coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and
avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide
attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said,
'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided
to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being
stupid."
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
27 Apr 2004 04:44:49 AM |
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya" <acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake of
human progress and world security.
Go ahead, drain it. What is Bu$h waiting for?
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Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
27 Apr 2004 09:38:07 AM |
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It is not up to Bush but the Supreme Jedi Council..
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya"
<acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake of
human progress and world security.
Go ahead, drain it. What is Bu$h waiting for?
"---= Tõfmf ᡤ K?¤0á¡ =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
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Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
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| User: "---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
28 Apr 2004 05:16:22 PM |
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya" <acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
It is not up to Bush but the Supreme Jedi Council..
Bu$h is the Empire, remember? Come on, get your facts straight.
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya"
<acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake of
human progress and world security.
Go ahead, drain it. What is Bu$h waiting for?
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| User: "Acharya" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
28 Apr 2004 07:43:50 PM |
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Then why is the force with Bush?
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya"
<acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
It is not up to Bush but the Supreme Jedi Council..
Bu$h is the Empire, remember? Come on, get your facts straight.
"---= Tõfmf ᡤ K?¤0á¡ =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Acharya"
<acharya@hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:
Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake
of
human progress and world security.
Go ahead, drain it. What is Bu$h waiting for?
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| User: "Umayyad" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
27 Apr 2004 06:10:20 AM |
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Acharya wrote:
Emma, Fallujah is a terrorist swamp that must be drained for the sake of
human progress and world security.
Kinda like Washington, then?!
The Iraqis will, thankfully, drain a good deal of Marine blood in the
process.
Nice!!!!
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| User: "CKOMOROX" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
27 Apr 2004 05:29:53 AM |
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Hey numbnuts! Just be glad that the US has so much patience. A few B-52
bombloads is enough to turn Falujah into a Stalingrad-like moonscape.
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
news:OBK94D7148B9FAD0001138@r2-dv8.anarchy.gov...
Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or
get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest", while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in
post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting
in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there
killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were
sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am. My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling, his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is
coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and
avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide
attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said,
'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided
to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being
stupid."
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
28 Apr 2004 04:15:52 AM |
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"CKOMOROX" <slavelabor@gulags.ru> wrote in message news:<BCqjc.7103$Gd3.1111572@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
Hey numbnuts! Just be glad that the US has so much patience. A few B-52
bombloads is enough to turn Falujah into a Stalingrad-like moonscape.
Hey Numbnuts! Why waste the fuel and bombs. The US could just launch
some artillery shells filled with VX gas or other nerve agents. This
way most of the structures would still be standing.
Oh wait, that sounds like something Saddam Hussein would do. Damn!
Do you have any more ideas?
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| User: "---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" |
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28 Apr 2004 05:16:57 PM |
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "CKOMOROX" <slavelabor@gulags.ru>
wrote:
Hey numbnuts! Just be glad that the US has so much patience. A few B-52
bombloads is enough to turn Falujah into a Stalingrad-like moonscape.
Go ahead, I don't care about that. I care about Bu$h stealing my tax $$$.
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Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
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| User: "~L l T T L E H l T L E R~" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
28 Apr 2004 05:19:54 PM |
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"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" wrote:
Go ahead, I don't care about that. I care about Bu$h stealing my tax $$$.
He's not stealing U.S. taxpayer dollars.
He's using the money
to slaughter Iraqis for oil...
(which is completely different)
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| User: "---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" |
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30 Apr 2004 11:29:43 PM |
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, ~L l T T L E H l T L E R~
<FASClST_JESUS@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
Go ahead, I don't care about that. I care about Bu$h stealing my tax
$$$.
He's not stealing U.S. taxpayer dollars.
He's using the money
to slaughter Iraqis for oil...
Yes ofcourse, but taxpayers won't see any of the proceeds from that oil.
Both the tax money AND the oil proceeds will go to the Texas Oil Mafia and
military contractors.
But at this rate, it will probably also be used to fund the next war
against Iran or Syria, etc.
(which is completely different)
Stealing oil from another country to make up for the stolen taxes from your
own country is a little different than just stealing oil.
I hope you see the point here. Bu$h basically took out a massive "loan",
and he expects to make up for that deficit through Iraqi oil. It's classic
imperialism, you conquer another country, make them indebted to you, then
plunder them for all they have because you'd be setting all the conditions.
Now if that oil cannot be secured, Bu$h is totally fucked. Republicon
corporations will fall apart because their "funding" will dry up, they are
in debt already, they are overproducing right now.
Taxpayers aren't going to willing give their money to corporations, Bu$h
needed an excuse to embezzle it and unless he starts another war he won't
have that excuse again.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
30 Apr 2004 11:53:35 PM |
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There was a tinge of sarcasm in my statement
that it's completely different.
And everything you state here is essentially correct.
It *will* backfire as it already has begun to unravel.
Look who's at the helm.
Look at his history.
There's a consistent pattern of failure.
And this crazy quest for empire
is just that.
(crazy)
You have a born-loser rubber-stamping a plan doomed to fail from the start.
The heat is turned up
and the magnitude of the repercussions
are guaranteed to be huge.
I'm not holding my breath for Americans to awaken in time
to curb the effects.
Karma you know,
can be sticky stuff at times...
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" wrote:
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, ~L l T T L E H l T L E R~
<FASClST_JESUS@whitehouse.gov> wrote:
Go ahead, I don't care about that. I care about Bu$h stealing my tax
$$$.
He's not stealing U.S. taxpayer dollars.
He's using the money
to slaughter Iraqis for oil...
Yes ofcourse, but taxpayers won't see any of the proceeds from that oil.
Both the tax money AND the oil proceeds will go to the Texas Oil Mafia and
military contractors.
But at this rate, it will probably also be used to fund the next war
against Iran or Syria, etc.
(which is completely different)
Stealing oil from another country to make up for the stolen taxes from your
own country is a little different than just stealing oil.
I hope you see the point here. Bu$h basically took out a massive "loan",
and he expects to make up for that deficit through Iraqi oil. It's classic
imperialism, you conquer another country, make them indebted to you, then
plunder them for all they have because you'd be setting all the conditions.
Now if that oil cannot be secured, Bu$h is totally fucked. Republicon
corporations will fall apart because their "funding" will dry up, they are
in debt already, they are overproducing right now.
Taxpayers aren't going to willing give their money to corporations, Bu$h
needed an excuse to embezzle it and unless he starts another war he won't
have that excuse again.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
05 Jun 2004 07:40:58 PM |
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When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA "intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
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Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or
get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest", while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in
post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting
in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there
killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were
sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am. My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling, his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is
coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and
avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide
attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said,
'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided
to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being
stupid."
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
05 Jun 2004 08:24:02 PM |
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"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
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When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj. Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 01:49:38 AM |
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If you're rooting for the americans remember they have killed more
coalition members than the so called terrorists.
TonyaK9 wrote:
"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FMtwc.77$NU5.3310@eagle.america.net...
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj. Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
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06 Jun 2004 11:10:51 AM |
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"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnS-pp-wdI1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
If you're rooting for the americans remember they have killed more
coalition members than the so called terrorists.
Proof?
No?
I thought as much...
The old commie trick of asserting a lie without any means of supporting
it...
TK9
TonyaK9 wrote:
"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FMtwc.77$NU5.3310@eagle.america.net...
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have
succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency
force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight
the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to
grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular
Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj.
Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before
they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with
thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares
to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on
June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 11:24:03 AM |
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I'm sure your wonderful free press will have covered all the incidents
of "friendly fire" were you wankers actually killed the people who were
on your side. Just a quick count reveals that at the end of the war (it
is over according to George W, oh and by the way you won but don't tell
the people who are still receiving their glorious heroes home in body
bags) the Irquis has killed 28 British service men and the Americans had
accidentally disposed of 59.
TonyaK9 wrote:
"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnS-pp-wdI1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
If you're rooting for the americans remember they have killed more
coalition members than the so called terrorists.
Proof?
No?
I thought as much...
The old commie trick of asserting a lie without any means of supporting
it...
TK9
TonyaK9 wrote:
"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FMtwc.77$NU5.3310@eagle.america.net...
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have
succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency
force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight
the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to
grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular
Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj.
Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before
they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with
thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares
to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on
June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
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06 Jun 2004 11:31:59 AM |
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"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:x_SdnYh1AOa_2F7d4p2dnA@brightview.com...
I'm sure your wonderful free press will have covered all the incidents
of "friendly fire" were you wankers actually killed the people who were
on your side. Just a quick count reveals that at the end of the war (it
is over according to George W, oh and by the way you won but don't tell
the people who are still receiving their glorious heroes home in body
bags) the Irquis has killed 28 British service men and the Americans had
accidentally disposed of 59.
TonyaK9 wrote:
In order to prove you're not trolling, you have to provide PROOF that the
total number of coalition members killed by the American friendly fire
exceeds the number killed by the terrorists. So far you have not presented
ANY proof for ANY of the total numbers.
Therefore, as I've said before - YOU ARE A LYING COMMIE *****.
Go write for Pravda, you moron.
TK9
"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnS-pp-wdI1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
If you're rooting for the americans remember they have killed more
coalition members than the so called terrorists.
Proof?
No?
I thought as much...
The old commie trick of asserting a lie without any means of supporting
it...
TK9
TonyaK9 wrote:
"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FMtwc.77$NU5.3310@eagle.america.net...
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have
succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency
force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight
the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to
grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular
Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj.
Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before
they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key
to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with
thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares
to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on
June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April
saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
.
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| User: "Hod" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 01:05:28 PM |
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PROOF please that Fallujah is pacified.
PROOF please that so is most of Iraq
Proof please that the so called terrorists have succeeded in killing
many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition troops.
Proof please that you are not a total *****
Proof please that the K9 in your name does not imply that you are a dog
TonyaK9 wrote:
"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:x_SdnYh1AOa_2F7d4p2dnA@brightview.com...
I'm sure your wonderful free press will have covered all the incidents
of "friendly fire" were you wankers actually killed the people who were
on your side. Just a quick count reveals that at the end of the war (it
is over according to George W, oh and by the way you won but don't tell
the people who are still receiving their glorious heroes home in body
bags) the Irquis has killed 28 British service men and the Americans had
accidentally disposed of 59.
TonyaK9 wrote:
In order to prove you're not trolling, you have to provide PROOF that the
total number of coalition members killed by the American friendly fire
exceeds the number killed by the terrorists. So far you have not presented
ANY proof for ANY of the total numbers.
Therefore, as I've said before - YOU ARE A LYING COMMIE *****.
Go write for Pravda, you moron.
TK9
"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnS-pp-wdI1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
If you're rooting for the americans remember they have killed more
coalition members than the so called terrorists.
Proof?
No?
I thought as much...
The old commie trick of asserting a lie without any means of supporting
it...
TK9
TonyaK9 wrote:
"scoopdamedia" <scoopdamedia@msn.com> wrote in message
news:FMtwc.77$NU5.3310@eagle.america.net...
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
Fallujah is pacified.
So is most of the rest of Iraq.
If you're rooting for the terrorists, keep in mind that they have
succeeded
in killing many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition
troops, and that we are helping to organize Iraqi forces, to rid their
country of the terrorist scumbags:
U.S. Training New Iraqi Force to Battle Guerrillas
- Jeffrey Gettleman (New York Times)
American military advisers are forming an all-Iraqi counterinsurgency
force
and training it in guerrilla tactics.
The Iraqi National Task Force is the most ambitious effort yet to fight
the
uprising using Iraqis, and it already has 1,000 soldiers, with plans to
grow
to 7,000.
It is being created as a response to the refusal of a group of regular
Iraqi
soldiers to face insurgents in Falluja two months ago.
That breakdown culminated in a tense standoff on an airfield with eight
American marines surrounded by an angry group of 200 armed Iraqis who
refused to board helicopters.
"I personally made the mistake with the Falluja incident," said Maj.
Gen.
Paul D. Eaton, the senior military adviser in charge of training Iraqi
security forces. "We tried to send the Iraqi Army into Falluja before
they
were ready, and they pushed back."
Col. Shafeen Abdul Majid, a steely eyed Kurdish fighter, said the key
to
fighting the resistance was "making your soldiers understand they are
fighting for Iraq, not against it."
See also: Volunteers Flood Iraqi Recruiting Stations
(U.S. Defense Department)
Iraqi Armed Forces recruiting centers continue to be flooded with
thousands
of eager Iraqi volunteers as the Office of Security Transition prepares
to
transfer control of the stations to the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on
June
25.
While in February less than 500 soldiers volunteered for duty, April
saw
more than 2,000 applicants.
.
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 11:28:54 PM |
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"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:86Sdnb_ncZh6wV7d4p2dnA@brightview.com...
PROOF please that Fallujah is pacified.
PROOF please that so is most of Iraq
I have already posted two articles proving these points.
Proof please that the so called terrorists have succeeded in killing
many, many more Iraqi civilians than they killed coalition troops.
Total number of casualties of Coalition Troops in Iraq (other than the
U.S.), including ALL causes =110
Source: http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/
The number of Iraqis murdered by the terrorists after the military
operations ended in May 2003 are on the order of thousands: dozens are
killed daily by the homicide bombers and in being caught in the cross-fires
resulting from the terrorist total disregard for civilian lives.
Which makes you a liar.
But there's one more set of numbers to consider here: read report on Iraq
human rights practices BEFORE the war:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2002/18277.htm
Without our interference Saddam's victims would be counted in the order of a
hundred of thousands per year.
But the way people were killed by Saddam dictatorship are to be taken into
account as well.
For example this:
"Security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and men in front of
their family members. According to Amnesty International (AI), the victim's
heads were displayed in front of their homes for several days. Thirty of the
victims' names reportedly were published, which included three doctors and
one medical assistant."
This was done by those in whose defence you stand now.
For shame!
Farewell, moron.
No need to talk to you anymore.
TK9
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| User: "Hod" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The VictoriousPeople of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 01:48:06 AM |
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How can you use US and intelligence in the same sentance?
scoopdamedia wrote:
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA "intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
news:OBK94D7148B9FAD0001138@r2-dv8.anarchy.gov...
Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or
get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest", while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in
post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting
in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there
killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were
sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am. My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling, his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is
coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and
avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide
attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said,
'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided
to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being
stupid."
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| User: "TonyaK9" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
06 Jun 2004 11:11:45 AM |
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"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnSypp-y5I1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
How can you use US and intelligence in the same sentance?
Hey, intelligence, it's "sentence".
Go back to the third grade, commie moron.
TK9
scoopdamedia wrote:
When USA troops burst into Fallujah, they discovered that USA
"intelligence"
had FUCKED UP BIG TIME!
"---= Ö§âmâ ßíñ Këñ0ßí =---" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
news:OBK94D7148B9FAD0001138@r2-dv8.anarchy.gov...
Heh heh heh... bring it on, Amerika... bwaaahahahahaaaaaaaa...
You know you've lost when nothing you do will make a difference. Attack
Fallujah and you will only turn more Iraqis against you. Leave Fallujah
alone and the Iraqi Rebels will continue attacking you anyway.
You have one choice left, Amerika, either cooperate with the Iraqis, or
get
the ***** out of Iraq immediately!
Otherwise, you will be coming home in flag-draped coffins...
Fallujah will be your Stalingrad, Americans told
By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
The Telegraph, UK
On the dusty road to the Jordanian Hospital on the edge of besieged
Fallujah a skull and crossbones flew defiantly from the bonnet of a US
military Humvee yesterday as preparations were made for a renewed
offensive.
America's senior general described the city as a "huge rats' nest",
while
Col John Coleman, a US marine commander in Fallujah, suggested that it
was
a "centre of gravity" in the war against terrorism.
A column of American marine vehicles at a base near Fallujah
"As Fallujah goes, so goes central Iraq," he said. "As central Iraq
goes,
so goes the nation."
More American soldiers have died in Fallujah than anywhere else in
post-war
Iraq and the Sunni city, a Saddam Hussein stronghold to which foreign
fighters have flocked, is Iraq's main battleground.
But for Amar Abbas, a 35-year-old electrical engineer, Fallujah is
simply
home. He fled with many members of his extended family when the fighting
in
the city erupted and took refuge in the nearby village of Na'amiya.
At the weekend, his relatives said, an American missile strike there
killed
a dozen people and injured many more. Mr Abbas lay in a temporary
hospital
yesterday preparing for an operation to remove shrapnel from his jaw.
Iraqi children stand on top of a burning US army vehicle
Opposite him was his son Othman, eight, whose face had been horribly
disfigured and left hand rendered useless by the blast.
"We thought we would be safe in Na'amiya," said Mr Abbas. "We were
sleeping
outside on the ground when the planes and helicopters came. It was 2am.
My
son wanted to become a surgeon, but now that can never be. They even
prevented us evacuating the wounded. It was hours before we could get
Othman out."
The only words his son had spoken since he was so badly injured, he
said,
were "I hate the Americans". As Othman stared blankly at the ceiling,
his
father said he wanted the Americans to pay for what they had done.
"Fallujah will be their Stalingrad. The Euphrates will be a river of
their
blood. Now the resistance is spreading all over Iraq and everyone is
coming
to Fallujah to help us. It will not be conquered."
The official estimate of civilian deaths in Fallujah since US forces
entered the city three weeks ago is 271.
The trigger for the offensive came when four defence contractors were
killed and their charred bodies were dragged through the streets and
hung
from a bridge.
Two of the Iraqi dead were unidentified and buried in makeshift graves
in
the grounds of the hospital. "One body was brought here in a blanket by
American troops," said Major Moneeb Zurikat, the hospital's security
officer.
"They dumped it at the gate and shouted, 'Now you can bury your Muslim
brother'. What can I say? There is nothing to say about this."
With the Pentagon determined to break the will of the insurgents and
avenge
the lives of the many Americans they have killed, a peaceful resolution
with the diehard Iraqi fighters is unlikely.
Another US soldier was killed in Baghdad yesterday and a US Coast Guard
officer died of wounds sustained on Saturday in an audacious suicide
attack
on a Gulf oil facility. Two American sailors died and oil exports
stopped
for at least two days.
With the expertise of the insurgents improving all the time and the
defiance in Fallujah acting as an inspiration nationally, commanders
believe that only an American victory in the city can break the will of
their enemies.
At the checkpoint outside the hospital an American military policeman
shrugged when asked about the dead and injured of Na'amiya.
"We received some mortar and small arms fire from there and so we said,
'to
hell with it' and just went in.
"We were supposed to wait until today, but we got ***** and decided
to
draw a line. We pretty much took out anyone who was in there being
stupid."
--
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http://members.chello.nl/r.kremers/darth.jpg
http://www.mncollegedems.org/DarthBush.jpg
http://www.mingthemerciless.com/atat.html
http://www.dailyprobe.com/arcs/fbi_suspects/bin_18kenobi.shtml
http://www.bloodforoil.org/ |
http://www.dyncorp-sucks.com/pmc/default.htm
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| User: "Ormond Laplunk" |
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| Title: Re: "Imperialists, Fallujah will be your Stalingrad!" - The Victorious People of Iraq |
21 Jun 2004 05:39:40 PM |
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"Hod" <john@nospampleasehodkinson.org.uk> wrote in message
news:FdKdnSypp-y5I1_dRVn-vg@brightview.com...
How can you use US and intelligence in the same sentance?
or American Justice :)
Orm
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| User: "Lidiya F. Timashuk" |
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| Title: Re: Iraq: progressive patriots expel killers in white coats |
01 Jul 2004 10:11:08 AM |
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From the "Boston Globe", 2004/0606Sn, p. A14
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/158/nation/Iraqi_doctors_abducted_others_flee_nation+.shtml
Quoted text copyright (c) 2004 by the "Boston Globe"
"Iraqi doctors abducted; others flee nation
"Officials say 100 physicians seized
"By Edmund Sanders, Los Angeles Times, 6/6/2004
[...]
For two months, someone has been kidnapping the best doctors in Iraq.
Health officials and doctors estimate that as many as 100 surgeons,
specialists, and general physicians have been abducted from their
homes and clinics since April. Some were beaten and tortured. Most
were released after the payment of $20,000 to $200,000 in ransom.
[...]
"Ransom, it seems, is not the only motivation for the crimes. In many
cases, the abductors have ordered the physicians to leave Iraq,
sometimes setting a deadline. Iraqi officials fear that the abductions
and threats are an organized attempt to cripple the country's health
care network, likening the tactics to terrorist attacks on the
nation's oil pipelines or electricity plants.
"These are not purely thieves. These people have different aims," said
Dr. Amir Kuzaii, deputy health minister. "They are professionals. They
want to paralyze the basic functions of the country."
[end of quoted text]
Comment:
We commend the patriotic resistance in Iraq for resolute action
against these class enemies. Some fifty years ago, the Great Leader
and Teacher Himself recognized the links between killers in white
coats and other enemies, including international Zionism:
http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/vrach-ubijca-e.html
http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/streicher.html
--L. F. Timashuk
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