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"AirRaid" |
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19 Apr 2007 08:30:51 PM |
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in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
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| User: "Joe S." |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
19 Apr 2007 08:44:38 PM |
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"AirRaid" <airraid.mach2.5@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 05:29:35 AM |
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On 20 avr, 03:44, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Where's the flame thrower?
Man... Americans are sick...
Wanna list of which guns I own? Zero.
Wanna list of which guns my friends own? Nothing.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 11:28:18 AM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177064975.444847.284370@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wanna list of which guns I own? Zero.
Because your are PROHIBITED by your Masters.
Wanna list of which guns my friends own? Nothing.
Because they are PROHIBITED by their Masters.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
Sure................
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Why would we? We can defend ourselves.
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
I agree. I would HATE to get shot defending the likes of YOU.
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| User: "AirRaid" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 04:14:40 PM |
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On Apr 20, 11:28 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177064975.444847.284370@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wanna list of whichgunsI own? Zero.
Because your are PROHIBITED by your Masters.
Wanna list of whichgunsmy friends own? Nothing.
Because they are PROHIBITED by their Masters.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
Sure................
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Why would we? We can defend ourselves.
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
I agree. I would HATE to get shot defending the likes of YOU.
Parsifal is a poor ignorant sheep, grazing in the grasses of a green
valley.
what he/she doesn't know, is that there are packs of wolves just over
the hills that he/she cannot see.
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
23 Apr 2007 11:57:06 AM |
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"AirRaid" <airraidfighter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 20, 11:28 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bast...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177064975.444847.284370@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wanna list of whichgunsI own? Zero.
Because your are PROHIBITED by your Masters.
Wanna list of whichgunsmy friends own? Nothing.
Because they are PROHIBITED by their Masters.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
Sure................
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Why would we? We can defend ourselves.
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
I agree. I would HATE to get shot defending the likes of YOU.
Parsifal is a poor ignorant sheep, grazing in the grasses of a green
valley.
what he/she doesn't know, is that there are packs of wolves just over
the hills that he/she cannot see.
And I truly hope that I'm never in a position to defend his/her worthless
life while risking mine...
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 10:30:33 AM |
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On 20 Apr 2007 03:29:35 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 20 avr, 03:44, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Where's the flame thrower?
Man... Americans are sick...
Wanna list of which guns I own? Zero.
Wanna list of which guns my friends own? Nothing.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
How can you Euros talk about guns if you have never owned them? Have
you ever shot a gun? Have you ever felt the thrill of seeing that what
is before your gunsite crumble before your power? Have you ever have
your blood quicken at the smell of cordite and gun oil?
The enemies of liberal democracy love guns. Enjoy your bondage.
One man with a gun can control 100 without one. -- Vladimir Ilyich
Lenin
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "AirRaid" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 04:11:40 PM |
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On Apr 20, 5:29 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 avr, 03:44, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get somegunsbefore they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Where's the flame thrower?
Man... Americans are sick...
Wanna list of whichgunsI own? Zero.
Wanna list of whichgunsmy friends own? Nothing.
Guess what: I don't fear anything or anyone.
You're probably shitting in your pants as soon as sun sets. Or as soon
as someone rings at your door...
Thank god, I don't live in your sick and decadent country.
YET ANOTHER SHEEP ALLOWING HIM/HER SELF TO BE PREPARED FOR THE
EVENTUAL ROUND-UP AND PERHAPS, SLAUGHTER.
I pity you.
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| User: "Fran" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
19 Apr 2007 09:32:02 PM |
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On Apr 20, 11:44 am, "Joe S." <non...@nosuch.net> wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Wouldn't an anti-tank weapon or two do an even better job? Be a treat
on those drive-by shootings.
Fran
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 12:01:30 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:44:38 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach2.5@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
S&W .22 cal
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Had me a Red Ryder back in 56.
The Captain always hopes for the best but plans for the worst. In
order to save the earth and themselves some won't drive, some won't
eat meat, some pray to new age gods and some scream from street
corners. The Captain collects guns. -- Captain Compassion
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Scotius" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
22 Apr 2007 07:17:14 AM |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:44:38 -0400, "Joe S." <noname@nosuch.net>
wrote:
"AirRaid" <airraid.mach2.5@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177032651.392206.246300@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Got mine already.
Glock 19 9mm
Springfield Arms XD .45 cal
You've claimed to have been a professional in the armed
forces, and you don't realize that those two pistols are for the same
purpose?
S&W .22 cal
That's different...
Magnum Research BFR .50 cal revolver
That's ridiculous, and not something that most pros would
bother with.
Remington Model 700 BDL .30-06
Good rifle, but bulky. A good rifle in 30-06 is the old
Browning pump action that a lot of people didn't think could be as
accurate as a bolt gun, but which most often is.
Remington Model 1100 G3 12-gauge
Weatherby Mark V Deluxe .30-06 Springfield
Daisy Model 1938 Red Ryder BB Gun
Ah, bear hunting.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 12:01:59 AM |
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On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all those guns, o.k.?
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| User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho " |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get someGUNS |
20 Apr 2007 12:12:00 PM |
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wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all those guns, o.k.?
On the off chance that he's a nut who would Cho up the place? Wouldn't
it make more sense to include people who were sent to the loony bin in
the list of people who got turned down on the background check?
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Personally, I believe that 9/11 should have taught us the lesson that we
can't let these countries simmer endlessly in disillusionment without
doing something about it because people become susceptible to delusional
ideas and delusional actions. Iraq, in my view, is but the first of many
efforts, certainly not all military, to remake the very face of the
world as constitutional representative democracy.
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| User: "GW Chimpzillas Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 12:18:56 PM |
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Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:
tomaxo@aol.com wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all those guns, o.k.?
On the off chance that he's a nut who would Cho up the place? Wouldn't
it make more sense to include people who were sent to the loony bin in
the list of people who got turned down on the background check?
We also shouldn't be allowed to sell guns to non-citizens.
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There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
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| User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho " |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get someGUNS |
20 Apr 2007 12:42:18 PM |
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GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote:
Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' ) wrote:
tomaxo@aol.com wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all those guns, o.k.?
On the off chance that he's a nut who would Cho up the place? Wouldn't
it make more sense to include people who were sent to the loony bin in
the list of people who got turned down on the background check?
We also shouldn't be allowed to sell guns to non-citizens.
You mean like someone is in the US from the Middle East on a student
visa and they want an AK-47 for some reason? I've said before that it is
unlikely that al Qaeda will use firearms specifically or as the main
force of any generalized attack in the United States. Of course after
the success of VTech shooter, perhaps I'm wrong about that.
But really, I still don't see the effort al Qaeda has to go to to get
someone in the US being worth it for them. I think they will stick with
bombs.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 02:24:20 PM |
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On Apr 20, 10:12 am, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
<tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
tom...@aol.com wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all those guns, o.k.?
......
On the off chance that he's a nut who would Cho up the place? Wouldn't
it make more sense to include people who were sent to the loony bin in
the list of people who got turned down on the background check?
Sure, but I'm taking a more individualistic approach to the issue. As
most people (regardless of level of mental illness) tend to view
themselves as perfectly sane, and few are forcibly evaluated prior to
having already committed an offense, I think submitting ones-self for
some level of evaluation voluntarily should be considered as sane an
act as having your blood-pressure checked.
As a society we have a tendency to treat with suspicion and
condescencion those who investigate and aknowledge a personal problem
(which could be anything from a drinking problem to schizophrenia) as
the first step in dealing with it, making a preferable alternative of
continuing behavior unchecked to the point of incarceration or death.
As un-macho as this sounds, I think it would be a sensible
individualistic approach to go hand-in-hand with the cherished right
to bear arms in our self defense, in much the same way as fiream
safety is.
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Personally, I believe that 9/11 should have taught us the lesson that we
can't let these countries simmer endlessly in disillusionment without
doing something about it because people become susceptible to delusional
ideas and delusional actions. Iraq, in my view, is but the first of many
efforts, certainly not all military, to remake the very face of the
world as constitutional representative democracy.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "AirRaid" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 04:15:44 PM |
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On Apr 20, 12:01 am, wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get somegunsbefore they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all thoseguns, o.k.?
why would i care to do something like that? you fucking *****.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
20 Apr 2007 05:19:59 PM |
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On Apr 20, 2:15 pm, AirRaid <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 20, 12:01 am, wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get somegunsbefore they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
Good for you. Stand up for the Bill of Rights (ALL OF THEM). Just do
us all a favor and get a psych eval before buying all thoseguns, o.k.?
why would i care to do something like that? you fucking *****.
Nothing like the cool confidence an arsenol provides those with the
emotional maturity of a child. I bet those road rage incidents you
keep getting caught up in are always the other guys fault too. No?
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
19 Apr 2007 08:43:46 PM |
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On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
I'm a college student, and I don't feel that the "authorities" at my
campus could do a damn thing to protect me in the event some nutter
goes off his meds and decides to start shooting.
I was in a class recently, and a student fainted. We couldn't even
figure out how to get help in that situation. No phone in the
classroom. No information about who to call if we had a phone. When
help finally arrived it was in the form of a campus security guard who
appeared to be approximately 89 years old.
What the ***** would that old unarmed geezer been able to do if some
nut was walking around blasting people? The best I can hope for is
that someone would call 911, and that police would show up in time to
recover my corpse.
It is very troubling to me that the campus administration can demand
that I trust them to protect my life, when they don't actually do
anything to protect my life. I understand that it may be a difficult
challenge for them to protect their students in times like these. Why
can't they understand that fact as well, and leave my right of self-
defense alone?
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: in the wake of the Va Tech Massacre, I''m gonna apply to get some GUNS |
19 Apr 2007 11:52:23 PM |
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On 19 Apr 2007 18:43:46 -0700, "cyrakis@yahoo.com" <cyrakis@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
I'm a college student, and I don't feel that the "authorities" at my
campus could do a damn thing to protect me in the event some nutter
goes off his meds and decides to start shooting.
I was in a class recently, and a student fainted. We couldn't even
figure out how to get help in that situation. No phone in the
classroom. No information about who to call if we had a phone. When
help finally arrived it was in the form of a campus security guard who
appeared to be approximately 89 years old.
What the ***** would that old unarmed geezer been able to do if some
nut was walking around blasting people? The best I can hope for is
that someone would call 911, and that police would show up in time to
recover my corpse.
It is very troubling to me that the campus administration can demand
that I trust them to protect my life, when they don't actually do
anything to protect my life. I understand that it may be a difficult
challenge for them to protect their students in times like these. Why
can't they understand that fact as well, and leave my right of self-
defense alone?
"They" know better than you.
When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that
you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and
both of these opinions generate hatred... -- Niccolo Machiavelli
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
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20 Apr 2007 06:59:26 PM |
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On Apr 20, 10:43 am, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
I'm a college student, and I don't feel that the "authorities" at my
campus could do a damn thing to protect me in the event some nutter
goes off his meds and decides to start shooting.
I was in a class recently, and a student fainted. We couldn't even
figure out how to get help in that situation. No phone in the
classroom. No information about who to call if we had a phone. When
help finally arrived it was in the form of a campus security guard who
appeared to be approximately 89 years old.
What the ***** would that old unarmed geezer been able to do if some
nut was walking around blasting people? The best I can hope for is
that someone would call 911, and that police would show up in time to
recover my corpse.
It is very troubling to me that the campus administration can demand
that I trust them to protect my life, when they don't actually do
anything to protect my life. I understand that it may be a difficult
challenge for them to protect their students in times like these. Why
can't they understand that fact as well, and leave my right of self-
defense alone?
Me personally, I would be far more seriously concerned if I went to a
college campus where all the students and teachers were armed with
guns. Could you imagine a teacher ever flunking a student? You would
be far safer if fewer people had guns as is the case in civilized
countries.
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20 Apr 2007 09:54:36 PM |
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On Apr 20, 4:59 pm, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Me personally, I would be far more seriously concerned if I went to a
college campus where all the students and teachers were armed with
guns. Could you imagine a teacher ever flunking a student? You would
be far safer if fewer people had guns as is the case in civilized
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Do you think the Swiss are uncivilized? Basically every adult male in
that country is required to possess a military grade assault rifle.
For some reason all those guns don't seem to drive them to kill each
other. Can you explain why you believe guns turn Americans into crazed
killers, when other populations with high rates of gun ownership do
not have high numbers of gun murders? The problem is not the guns,
it's the shooters.
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| User: "aususa" |
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21 Apr 2007 03:39:49 AM |
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On Apr 21, 11:54 am, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 20, 4:59 pm,aususa<josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Me personally, I would be far more seriously concerned if I went to a
college campus where all the students and teachers were armed with
guns. Could you imagine a teacher ever flunking a student? You would
be far safer if fewer people had guns as is the case in civilized
countries.- Hide quoted text -
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Do you think the Swiss are uncivilized? Basically every adult male in
that country is required to possess a military grade assault rifle.
For some reason all those guns don't seem to drive them to kill each
other. Can you explain why you believe guns turn Americans into crazed
killers, when other populations with high rates of gun ownership do
not have high numbers of gun murders? The problem is not the guns,
it's the shooters.
Here we go again with more excuses from the gun lobby. If you think
you would be safer if every high school and college student brought a
gun to school, you are deluding yourself. A better comparison of
countries is larger multicultural English speaking countries like
England or the Australia, which have strong gun conrol and low gund
deaths compared to the USA. Switzerland and Israel are small
countries with well regulatd militias, something that is not the case
in America where anyone can get a gun. Please stop it with the stupid
argument that guns don't kill, people do, that is a nonsense, guns are
dangerous weapons that are far more deadly than other weapons.
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21 Apr 2007 05:27:28 AM |
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On Apr 21, 1:39 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:54 am, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 20, 4:59 pm,aususa<josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Me personally, I would be far more seriously concerned if I went to a
college campus where all the students and teachers were armed with
guns. Could you imagine a teacher ever flunking a student? You would
be far safer if fewer people had guns as is the case in civilized
countries.- Hide quoted text -
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Do you think the Swiss are uncivilized? Basically every adult male in
that country is required to possess a military grade assault rifle.
For some reason all those guns don't seem to drive them to kill each
other. Can you explain why you believe guns turn Americans into crazed
killers, when other populations with high rates of gun ownership do
not have high numbers of gun murders? The problem is not the guns,
it's the shooters.
Here we go again with more excuses from the gun lobby. If you think
you would be safer if every high school and college student brought a
gun to school, you are deluding yourself.
Resorting to strawmen and logical fallacies does not help your case.
A better comparison of
countries is larger multicultural English speaking countries like
England or the Australia, which have strong gun conrol and low gund
deaths compared to the USA.
Plenty of stabbings and personal crime though. Shootings too, though
admittedly not as frequently as the US.
Switzerland and Israel are small
countries with well regulatd militias, something that is not the case
in America where anyone can get a gun.
Please stop it with the stupid
argument that guns don't kill, people do, that is a nonsense, guns are
dangerous weapons that are far more deadly than other weapons.
Well, America was created because of free people defending their
rights with firearms. It's difficult to conceive of a time where
America will reject that principle of leaving ultimate authority in
the hands of the people. It wouldn't be America anymore.
And then you would'nt be able to act all smug when spouting off your
***** about American gun nuts, and wouldn't that be a shame?
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| User: "aususa" |
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21 Apr 2007 06:34:43 AM |
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On Apr 21, 7:27 pm, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 1:39 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 11:54 am, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 20, 4:59 pm,aususa<josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Me personally, I would be far more seriously concerned if I went to a
college campus where all the students and teachers were armed with
guns. Could you imagine a teacher ever flunking a student? You would
be far safer if fewer people had guns as is the case in civilized
countries.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Do you think the Swiss are uncivilized? Basically every adult male in
that country is required to possess a military grade assault rifle.
For some reason all those guns don't seem to drive them to kill each
other. Can you explain why you believe guns turn Americans into crazed
killers, when other populations with high rates of gun ownership do
not have high numbers of gun murders? The problem is not the guns,
it's the shooters.
Here we go again with more excuses from the gun lobby. If you think
you would be safer if every high school and college student brought a
gun to school, you are deluding yourself.
Resorting to strawmen and logical fallacies does not help your case.
A better comparison of
countries is larger multicultural English speaking countries like
England or theAustralia, which have strong gun conrol and low gund
deaths compared to the USA.
Plenty of stabbings and personalcrimethough. Shootings too, though
admittedly not as frequently as the US.
Let me educate you mate from the brainwashing and propaganda that has
been drilled into your head by the gun nut lobby. I have lived in
both the USA and Australia for many years to know that Australia has
far less violent crime than the USA, so instead of relying on the gun
nut lobby stats that I have seen on the board, I researched the
official stats for 2003 for both countries and converted crime to a
rate per 100,000 population and guess what? For violent crime the USA
has over 3 times the homicide rate, and over twice the assault and
robbery rate which make up violent crime stats. The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
2003 Crime Statistics USA Per Australia Per USA % of
Description Number 100,000 Number 100,000 Australia
Population 290,809,777 20,008,700
Homicides 16,582 5.7 341 1.7 335%
Assault 4,606,740 1584 158,269 791 200%
Robbery 596,130 205 19,709 99 208%
Rape 198,850 68 18,237 91 75%
USA crime stats: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm#one
Aus crim stats: http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/facts/2005/facts_and_figures_2005.pdf
Now tell me if there is anything you don't understand about these
stats and if you are proud that the USA has such a high degree of
violent crime?
Switzerland and Israel are small
countries with well regulatd militias, something that is not the case
in America where anyone can get a gun.
Please stop it with the stupid
argument that guns don't kill, people do, that is a nonsense, guns are
dangerous weapons that are far more deadly than other weapons.
Well, America was created because of free people defending their
rights with firearms.
Nonsense, stop lying. America was created to be free from British
rule.
It's difficult to conceive of a time where
America will reject that principle of leaving ultimate authority in
the hands of the people. It wouldn't be America anymore.
And then you would'nt be able to act all smug when spouting off your
***** about American gun nuts, and wouldn't that be a shame?-
You are probably right, the gun nut lobby is so strong I doubt that
sensible gun laws will ever be passed in the USA and instead of being
the "free country" that you claim it is, America will be more like
Iraq where the people are free, but less safe because so many weapons
are freely available.
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21 Apr 2007 02:29:42 PM |
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On Apr 21, 4:34 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
Your comment reminds me of an attractive woman I met in a bar one time
who revealed that she was carrying a concealed firearm. Turns out she
had been raped in the past, at a time whe she did not have a firearm.
She reached the same obvious conclusion that I have reached regarding
firearms, which is ultimately everyone is responsible for their own
life and safety.
While possibly well-intentioned, your gun-grabbing fixation leads
inevitably to one result: victims being unable to defend themselves
form attack.
Which is exactly what happened at VA tech.
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21 Apr 2007 09:05:37 PM |
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On 21 Apr 2007 12:29:42 -0700, "cyrakis@yahoo.com" <cyrakis@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:34 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
Your comment reminds me of an attractive woman I met in a bar one time
who revealed that she was carrying a concealed firearm. Turns out she
had been raped in the past, at a time whe she did not have a firearm.
She reached the same obvious conclusion that I have reached regarding
firearms, which is ultimately everyone is responsible for their own
life and safety.
While possibly well-intentioned, your gun-grabbing fixation leads
inevitably to one result: victims being unable to defend themselves
form attack.
Which is exactly what happened at VA tech.
If women were allowed to carry guns then the incidence of rape would
decline. I suspect that Democrats and rapists would be against this.
-- Captain Compassion
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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23 Apr 2007 06:49:45 PM |
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On Apr 21, 7:05 pm, Captain Compassion <dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net>
wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 12:29:42 -0700, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:34 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
Your comment reminds me of an attractive woman I met in a bar one time
who revealed that she was carrying a concealed firearm. Turns out she
had been raped in the past, at a time whe she did not have a firearm.
She reached the same obvious conclusion that I have reached regarding
firearms, which is ultimately everyone is responsible for their own
life and safety.
While possibly well-intentioned, your gun-grabbing fixation leads
inevitably to one result: victims being unable to defend themselves
form attack.
Which is exactly what happened at VA tech.
If women were allowed to carry guns then the incidence of rape would
decline. I suspect that Democrats and rapists would be against this.
-- Captain Compassion
Since most crime - with or without guns - is perpetrated by males,
let's allow ONLY women to own and carry guns.
MLW
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
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23 Apr 2007 11:48:08 PM |
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On 23 Apr 2007 16:49:45 -0700, wrote:
On Apr 21, 7:05 pm, Captain Compassion <dar...@NOSPAMcharter.net>
wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 12:29:42 -0700, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:34 am, aususa <josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
Your comment reminds me of an attractive woman I met in a bar one time
who revealed that she was carrying a concealed firearm. Turns out she
had been raped in the past, at a time whe she did not have a firearm.
She reached the same obvious conclusion that I have reached regarding
firearms, which is ultimately everyone is responsible for their own
life and safety.
While possibly well-intentioned, your gun-grabbing fixation leads
inevitably to one result: victims being unable to defend themselves
form attack.
Which is exactly what happened at VA tech.
If women were allowed to carry guns then the incidence of rape would
decline. I suspect that Democrats and rapists would be against this.
-- Captain Compassion
Since most crime - with or without guns - is perpetrated by males,
let's allow ONLY women to own and carry guns.
That would be sexist.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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22 Apr 2007 05:48:48 PM |
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On Apr 22, 4:29 am, "cyra...@yahoo.com" <cyra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 4:34 am,aususa<josephbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only exception
was rape which the USA was a little lower than Australia, but since
only 12-20% actually report rape, this figure may not be that
meaningful.
Your comment reminds me of an attractive woman I met in a bar one time
who revealed that she was carrying a concealed firearm. Turns out she
had been raped in the past, at a time whe she did not have a firearm.
She reached the same obvious conclusion that I have reached regarding
firearms, which is ultimately everyone is responsible for their own
life and safety.
You are merely deluding yourself if you think that if every woman had
a gun in her purse or her crotch is going to save them from being
raped when the opposite is true, with easy access to guns as you have
in America, a gun is the weapon of choice for many rapist who have the
advantage of choosing the easiest time to rape their victim. This is
not the gunfight at the OK coral where the quickest draw wins. And
what sort of life is that where everyone has to carry a gun 24 hours a
day to think they can defend themselves.
While possibly well-intentioned, your gun-grabbing fixation leads
inevitably to one result: victims being unable to defend themselves
form attack.
Which is exactly what happened at VA tech.
While possibly well intentioned, you pro gun fixations is a delusion.
If gun ownership made you safer, the USA would not be leadig the
western world in homicides as it does. Of course you haven't figured
out that the real problem is a psycho in the USA has easy access to
guns which is the cause of the problem and arming everyone will only
lead to more gun violence as it has in Iraq.
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19 Apr 2007 08:35:15 PM |
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On Apr 19, 6:30 pm, AirRaid <airraid.mach...@gmail.com> wrote:
to protect myself.
no politician, cop, SWAT team, or member of a toltalitarian police-
state will take them away from me.
gotta get some guns before they get perma-banned. how about the rest
of you?
2nd Amendment or death.
guns guns guns get as many as you can it will be great, sounds like
you are scarrd to death, bush is doing an awesome job of keeping the
sheep in line.
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