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Date: 05 Jan 2006 05:16:56 PM
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Incoming
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective
Thursday 05 January 2006
"It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job
is to remove them from power permanently."
- Jack A. Abramoff
All of official Washington is at this moment waiting with bated breath
for the avalanche.
Jack Abramoff, the disgraced super-lobbyist, has made a plea agreement
in the massive prosecution against him and his cronies.
Every talking head who has spoken on the subject has stated bluntly
that the fallout from this plea deal will almost certainly result in
the largest scandal to hit the capital in decades.
The questions, of course, are straightforward:
Who is involved?
Who took money from this guy?
Who is on his pad?
Most significantly, who did Abramoff name when he decided to sing to
the prosecutors?
Republicans, nervous about the bad noise to come, have attempted to
paint this as an equal-opportunity crime.
To wit, the Democrats are into Abramoff as deeply as the GOP.
The facts, however, do not bear this out.
According to campaign donation information gathered by the
non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following
officeholders and candidates have received political donations from
Abramoff since 2000:
Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.).
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon
(R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo
(R-Calif.). Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.).
Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook
(R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.).
Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.).
Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.).
Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent
(R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim
Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. "Butch"
Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.).
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.).
Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn
(R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike
Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric
Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad
Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom
Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer
Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.).
Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr.
(R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.).
George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC).
Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H.
Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce
(R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.).
Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).
Also:
Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay
(R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles
(R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert
(R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio).
Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of
the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory
Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC,
Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of
John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC
of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth
(R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.
Also:
George W. Bush (R).
Notice anything similar?
Each and every name listed, each and every PAC, has an (R) after it.
The Center for Responsive Politics does not have one Democrat - not
one - listed as having received a donation from Jack Abramoff.
The amounts given to the Republicans listed above amounts to hundreds
of thousands of dollars.
In extremis, Republicans have taken to bandying about the name of
Byron Dorgan, Democratic Senator from North Dakota, as evidence that
this Abramoff thing is a two-party scandal.
Dorgan received $67,000 from Native American tribes represented by
Abramoff - not from Abramoff himself - and has since returned the
money.
Furthermore, he got the money before the tribes had any dealings with
Abramoff.
In short, Dorgan's so-called involvement in the matter is a red
herring.
As for Mr. Bush, he has given the Abramoff money he received to
charity, according to the White House.
DNC Chairman Howard Dean pegged the total amount Bush received from
Abramoff at $100,000.
Abramoff attended three Hannukah receptions at the Bush White House -
Hannukah?
What happened to fighting the War on Christmas? - but Bush denies
knowing him.
"The president does not know him and does not recall meeting him,"
said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.
"It is possible that he could have met him at a holiday reception or
some other widely attended event."
Heh. Sounds like what we heard from Bush about Kenny "Boy" Lay.
It is going to be an interesting year.
______________________________________________________
Ain't it funny how these things work out? Heh.
Harry
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User: "Noodles Jefferson"

Title: Re: Incoming. 06 Jan 2006 07:49:14 PM
In article <o8arr15e7vppsikb77bjcuclfp1ginnm3b@4ax.com>, Harry Hope took
the hamburger, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh wow"...


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010506Z.shtml

Incoming

By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Thursday 05 January 2006

"It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job
is to remove them from power permanently."

- Jack A. Abramoff


All of official Washington is at this moment waiting with bated breath
for the avalanche.

Jack Abramoff, the disgraced super-lobbyist, has made a plea agreement
in the massive prosecution against him and his cronies.

Every talking head who has spoken on the subject has stated bluntly
that the fallout from this plea deal will almost certainly result in
the largest scandal to hit the capital in decades.

The questions, of course, are straightforward:

Who is involved?

Who took money from this guy?

Who is on his pad?

Most significantly, who did Abramoff name when he decided to sing to
the prosecutors?

Republicans, nervous about the bad noise to come, have attempted to
paint this as an equal-opportunity crime.

To wit, the Democrats are into Abramoff as deeply as the GOP.

The facts, however, do not bear this out.

According to campaign donation information gathered by the
non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following
officeholders and candidates have received political donations from
Abramoff since 2000:

Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.).
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon
(R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo
(R-Calif.). Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.).
Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook
(R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.).
Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.).
Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.).
Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent
(R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim
Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. "Butch"
Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.).
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.).
Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn
(R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike
Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric
Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad
Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom
Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer
Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.).
Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr.
(R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.).
George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC).
Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H.
Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce
(R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.).
Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).

Also:

Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay
(R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles
(R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert
(R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio).
Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of
the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory
Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC,
Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of
John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC
of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth
(R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.

Also:

George W. Bush (R).

Notice anything similar?

Each and every name listed, each and every PAC, has an (R) after it.

The Center for Responsive Politics does not have one Democrat - not
one - listed as having received a donation from Jack Abramoff.

The amounts given to the Republicans listed above amounts to hundreds
of thousands of dollars.

In extremis, Republicans have taken to bandying about the name of
Byron Dorgan, Democratic Senator from North Dakota, as evidence that
this Abramoff thing is a two-party scandal.

Dorgan received $67,000 from Native American tribes represented by
Abramoff - not from Abramoff himself - and has since returned the
money.

Furthermore, he got the money before the tribes had any dealings with
Abramoff.

In short, Dorgan's so-called involvement in the matter is a red
herring.

As for Mr. Bush, he has given the Abramoff money he received to
charity, according to the White House.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean pegged the total amount Bush received from
Abramoff at $100,000.

Abramoff attended three Hannukah receptions at the Bush White House -
Hannukah?

What happened to fighting the War on Christmas? - but Bush denies
knowing him.

"The president does not know him and does not recall meeting him,"
said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

"It is possible that he could have met him at a holiday reception or
some other widely attended event."

Heh. Sounds like what we heard from Bush about Kenny "Boy" Lay.

It is going to be an interesting year.

______________________________________________________

Ain't it funny how these things work out? Heh.

Harry

You know what they did, don't you?
They took down the GOP moneyman. The guy they all go to to make money
happen automagically. They got Mr. BigDeal. ***** dude, just look at all
those names up there. Hooooooooooo doggy! Yeah, I'd be puckered
thistight too if I was them. They're gonna squeeze him and he's gonna
pop and all kinds of *****'s gonna come out.
Fucking scoreboard. Eat that GOP. November's not far now. Not very far
at all.
--
Noodles Jefferson
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "We Die Young" -- Alice In Chains
"Our earth is degenerate in these latter days, bribery and corruption
are common, children no longer obey their parents and the end of the
world is evidently approaching."
--Assyrian clay tablet 2800 B.C.
.

User: "Paul Revere"

Title: Re: Incoming. 06 Jan 2006 02:13:27 PM
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:16:56 -0800, Harry Hope wrote
(in article <o8arr15e7vppsikb77bjcuclfp1ginnm3b@4ax.com>):


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/010506Z.shtml

Incoming

By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Thursday 05 January 2006

"It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job
is to remove them from power permanently."

- Jack A. Abramoff


All of official Washington is at this moment waiting with bated breath
for the avalanche.

Jack Abramoff, the disgraced super-lobbyist, has made a plea agreement
in the massive prosecution against him and his cronies.

Every talking head who has spoken on the subject has stated bluntly
that the fallout from this plea deal will almost certainly result in
the largest scandal to hit the capital in decades.

The questions, of course, are straightforward:

Who is involved?

Who took money from this guy?

Who is on his pad?

Most significantly, who did Abramoff name when he decided to sing to
the prosecutors?

Republicans, nervous about the bad noise to come, have attempted to
paint this as an equal-opportunity crime.

To wit, the Democrats are into Abramoff as deeply as the GOP.

The facts, however, do not bear this out.

According to campaign donation information gathered by the
non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics, the following
officeholders and candidates have received political donations from
Abramoff since 2000:

Tom DeLay (R-Texas). John Ashcroft (R-Mo.). Frank A. LoBiondo (R-NJ).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Arlen Specter (R-Pa.). John Ensign (R-Nev.).
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.). Charles H. Taylor (R-NC). Chris Cannon
(R-Utah). Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa). Mark Foley (R-Fla.). Richard Pombo
(R-Calif.). Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-Mo.). Curt Weldon (R-Pa.).
Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). Doug Ose (R-Calif.). Ernest J. Istook
(R-Okla.). George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash.). Jim Bunning (R-Ky.).
Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.). Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). Dan Burton (R-Ind.).
Eric Cantor (R-Va.). Suzanne Terrell (R-La.). Rob Simmons (R-Conn.).
Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss.). Connie Morella (R-Md.).
Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore.). James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.). James M. Talent
(R-Mo.). John T. Doolittle (R-Calif.). John Thune (R-SD). Tim
Hutchinson (R-Ark.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Bob Ney (R-Ohio). CL. "Butch"
Otter (R-Idaho). Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.).
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC). Heather Wilson (R-NM). J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.).
Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). James V. Hansen (R-Utah). John Cornyn
(R-Texas). Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii). Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo.). Mike
Ferguson (R-NJ). Mike Simpson (R-Idaho). Ralph Regula (R-Ohio). Ric
Keller (R-Fla.). Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). Ted Stevens (R-Alaska). Thad
Cochran (R-Miss.). Dave Camp (R-Mich.). Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.). Tom
Young (R-Ala.). Bill Janklow (R-SD). Craig Thomas (R-Wyo.). Spencer
Abraham (R-Mich.). William L. Gormley (R-NJ). Bill McCollum (R-Fla.).
Bill Redmond (R-NM). Bob Riley (R-Ala.). Claude B. Hutchison Jr.
(R-Calif.). Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.). Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo.).
George Allen (R-Va.). Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.). Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC).
Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). Bob Smith (R-Fla.). Joe Pitts (R-PA). Charles H.
Taylor (R-NC). Bob Ehrlich (R-Md.). Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa.). Ed Royce
(R-Calif.). Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif.). Jerry Weller (R-Ill.).
Mark Emerson (R-Utah). Tom Davis (R-Va.). Van Hilleary (R-Tenn.).

Also:

Americans for a Republican Majority, Leadership PAC of Tom DeLay
(R-Texas). Republican Majority Fund, Leadership PAC of Don Nickles
(R-Okla.). Keep Our Majority PAC, Leadership PAC of Dennis Hastert
(R-Ill.). Leadership PAC, Leadership PAC of Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio).
Rely on Your Beliefs, Leadership PAC of Roy Blunt (R-Mo.). Friends of
the Big Sky, Leadership PAC of Conrad Burns (R-Mont.). Senate Victory
Fund, Leadership PAC of Thad Cochran (R-Miss.). American Liberty PAC,
Leadership PAC of Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Battle Born PAC, Leadership PAC of
John Ensign (R-Nev.). Fund for a Free Market America, Leadership PAC
of Phil Crane (R-Ill.). Team PAC, Leadership PAC of J.D. Hayworth
(R-Ariz.). The Republican Party of New Jersey.

Also:

George W. Bush (R).

Notice anything similar?

Each and every name listed, each and every PAC, has an (R) after it.

The Center for Responsive Politics does not have one Democrat - not
one - listed as having received a donation from Jack Abramoff.

Information concerning Democratic "donations" from Abramoff is not difficult
to obtain if one can be objective enough to look for it:
"On the Senate side, Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), now the Senate minority leader,
also wrote Ms. Norton in opposition to the casino.
The letter was dated March 5, 2002.
On March 6, 2002, one of Mr. Abramoff's tribal clients wrote a $5,000 check
to Mr. Reid's Searchlight Leadership Fund.
"There is absolutely no connection between the letter and the fundraising,"
said Mr. Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley.
Another coincidence! Mr. Reid's Abramoff-related total: $66,000 between 2001
and 2004."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111701469.html
Reid was not the only Democrat involved with Abramoff, though the vast
majority of Abramoff beneficiaries are Republican.

The amounts given to the Republicans listed above amounts to hundreds
of thousands of dollars.

In extremis, Republicans have taken to bandying about the name of
Byron Dorgan, Democratic Senator from North Dakota, as evidence that
this Abramoff thing is a two-party scandal.

Dorgan received $67,000 from Native American tribes represented by
Abramoff - not from Abramoff himself - and has since returned the
money.

Furthermore, he got the money before the tribes had any dealings with
Abramoff.

In short, Dorgan's so-called involvement in the matter is a red
herring.

As for Mr. Bush, he has given the Abramoff money he received to
charity, according to the White House.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean pegged the total amount Bush received from
Abramoff at $100,000.

Abramoff attended three Hannukah receptions at the Bush White House -
Hannukah?

What happened to fighting the War on Christmas? - but Bush denies
knowing him.

"The president does not know him and does not recall meeting him,"
said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

"It is possible that he could have met him at a holiday reception or
some other widely attended event."

Heh. Sounds like what we heard from Bush about Kenny "Boy" Lay.

It is going to be an interesting year.

______________________________________________________

Ain't it funny how these things work out? Heh.

Harry

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