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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Captain Compassion"
Date: 05 Mar 2006 02:49:31 PM
Object: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher
Reports that Iraq has descended into a civil war are not only not true
- they're being promulgated by anti-war journalists eager to see U.S.
efforts to establish a stable democracy in the country fail.
So says military analyst Ralph Peters, who just spent a week touring
Baghdad with the 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.
"I'm looking for the civil war that The New York Times declared. And I
just can't find it," Peters declared in his New York Post column on
Sunday.
Instead, he reports: "I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum
jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by."
"Cheering our troops," he repeated.
Everywhere the 506th traveled, he said, the reception was warm. "No
violence. None. Iraqis went out of their way to tell us we were
welcome."
Instead, said Peters, the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra -
the alleged catalyst for the so-called civil war - has "caused popular
support for the U.S. presence to spike upward."
"In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw
full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday
flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed," he
recalled.
"Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn't deter them. And the
presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of
a low threat level."
So why is the U.S. press full of reports that Iraq is spinning into
chaos?
Says Peters: Many journalists who pretend to be out on the streets of
Baghdad getting the story are instead hiding out in their hotel rooms
and getting their news from Iraqi stringers.
"And the Iraqi stringers have cracked the code," he explained. "The
Americans don't pay for good news. So they exaggerate the bad."
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.

User: "Joe S."

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 09:39:16 PM
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Ralph Peters worked for me during my last tour on active duty.
I fired him because he had his head up his ***** and I see he has not yet
extracted it.
.

User: "Mens sana"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 06 Mar 2006 05:24:00 AM
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Instead, he reports: "I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum
jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by."

"Cheering our troops," he repeated.

Peters went on to say that 99.9% of the Purple Hearts awarded in Iraq were
for soldiers wounded by thorns attached to the roses that the grateful Iraqi
people were throwing at them.
Mens sana.
.

User: "effty"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 03:37:17 PM
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006
But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.
~e.
.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 04:14:15 PM
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.

civ‚il war‚ n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.
This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "Republicans in Agony"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 04:20:20 PM
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.

civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.

Which translates as a Civil War.
.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 09:33:59 PM
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:20:20 GMT, "Republicans in Agony"
<xxwww@Ezra.net> wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.

civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.


Which translates as a Civil War.

Two religious groups are attacking each other. Neither group has
organized to attack civil authority.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "Joe S."

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 09:40:13 PM
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:20:20 GMT, "Republicans in Agony"
<xxwww@Ezra.net> wrote:


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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.

civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.


Which translates as a Civil War.

Two religious groups are attacking each other. Neither group has
organized to attack civil authority.

That's because there is no civil authority.



--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005

"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike

"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net

.


User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 06:53:48 PM
Republicans in Agony wrote:

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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.


civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.



Which translates as a Civil War.

QED



.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 09:36:42 PM
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:53:48 -0500, Defendario
<Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

Republicans in Agony wrote:

"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.


civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.



Which translates as a Civil War.


QED

Quantum electrodynamics?
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 10:13:55 PM
Captain Compassion wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:53:48 -0500, Defendario
<Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:


Republicans in Agony wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:



"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.


civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.



Which translates as a Civil War.


QED


Quantum electrodynamics?


That would be the quantum wanker acronym.
Results of search, for the 'puter impaired:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=QED&p=dict
Top entry: Quod Erat Demonstrandum (Latin: Which Was to Be
Demonstrated) Used in Logic, Krappy. That must explain why you don't
know it.
;D
.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 06 Mar 2006 02:09:16 AM
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:13:55 -0500, Defendario
<Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:

Captain Compassion wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:53:48 -0500, Defendario
<Defendario@netscape.com> wrote:


Republicans in Agony wrote:


"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:0com02h1ihav2hv3m34houg7pankeha31k@4ax.com...


On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 21:37:17 GMT, "effty" <gospameffty@yahoo.com>
wrote:



"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher


If I had to pick between NewsMax and the New York Times, I wouldn't pick
NewsMax!

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax.com

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512090006


But, you know, check up on them and decide for yourself.


civ,il war, n.1. a war between political factions or regions within
the same country.

This ain't North Iraq against South Iraq or the Sunni Party trying to
take political power from the Shiite Party. This is sectarian
violence.



Which translates as a Civil War.


QED


Quantum electrodynamics?



That would be the quantum wanker acronym.

Results of search, for the 'puter impaired:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=QED&p=dict

Top entry: Quod Erat Demonstrandum (Latin: Which Was to Be
Demonstrated) Used in Logic, Krappy. That must explain why you don't
know it.

;D

I get it now you mean Q.E.D. Must use the periods don't you know.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.







User: "Logician"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 10:31:25 PM
Reports of 1000's killed in Iraq in days are false - invented by the
anti-American media.
Iraq is joyful - everyone is happy and smiling.
Iraqis love Bush - he set them free.
Maybe Bush can setup the WH in Iraq.
Captain Compassion wrote:

Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Reports that Iraq has descended into a civil war are not only not true
- they're being promulgated by anti-war journalists eager to see U.S.
efforts to establish a stable democracy in the country fail.

So says military analyst Ralph Peters, who just spent a week touring
Baghdad with the 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.

"I'm looking for the civil war that The New York Times declared. And I
just can't find it," Peters declared in his New York Post column on
Sunday.

Instead, he reports: "I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum
jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by."

"Cheering our troops," he repeated.

Everywhere the 506th traveled, he said, the reception was warm. "No
violence. None. Iraqis went out of their way to tell us we were
welcome."

Instead, said Peters, the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra -
the alleged catalyst for the so-called civil war - has "caused popular
support for the U.S. presence to spike upward."

"In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw
full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday
flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed," he
recalled.

"Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn't deter them. And the
presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of
a low threat level."

So why is the U.S. press full of reports that Iraq is spinning into
chaos?

Says Peters: Many journalists who pretend to be out on the streets of
Baghdad getting the story are instead hiding out in their hotel rooms
and getting their news from Iraqi stringers.

"And the Iraqi stringers have cracked the code," he explained. "The
Americans don't pay for good news. So they exaggerate the bad."



--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005

"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike

"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net

.

User: "Lee Philips"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 02:54:45 PM
Shill.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message =
news:vijm021gbmf3mrf65cs0qq0o84go3o6f81@4ax.com...

Ralph Peters: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth
NewsMax ^ | March 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher
=20
Reports that Iraq has descended into a civil war are not only not true
- they're being promulgated by anti-war journalists eager to see U.S.
efforts to establish a stable democracy in the country fail.=20
=20
So says military analyst Ralph Peters, who just spent a week touring
Baghdad with the 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division.=20
=20
"I'm looking for the civil war that The New York Times declared. And I
just can't find it," Peters declared in his New York Post column on
Sunday.=20
=20
Instead, he reports: "I saw children and teenagers in a Shia slum
jumping up and down and cheering our troops as they drove by."=20
=20
"Cheering our troops," he repeated.=20
=20
Everywhere the 506th traveled, he said, the reception was warm. "No
violence. None. Iraqis went out of their way to tell us we were
welcome."=20
=20
Instead, said Peters, the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra -
the alleged catalyst for the so-called civil war - has "caused popular
support for the U.S. presence to spike upward."=20
=20
"In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw
full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday
flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed," he
recalled.=20
=20
"Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn't deter them. And the
presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of
a low threat level."=20
=20
So why is the U.S. press full of reports that Iraq is spinning into
chaos?=20
=20
Says Peters: Many journalists who pretend to be out on the streets of
Baghdad getting the story are instead hiding out in their hotel rooms
and getting their news from Iraqi stringers.=20
=20
"And the Iraqi stringers have cracked the code," he explained. "The
Americans don't pay for good news. So they exaggerate the bad."
=20
=20
=20
--=20
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing=20
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and=20
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
=20
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce=20
=20
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
=20
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it =

takes

so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of =

trick

to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain =

Compassion

=20
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.=20
--Will Durant
=20
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net

.

User: "Alpha"

Title: Re: Iraq 'Civil War' A Media Myth 05 Mar 2006 03:05:31 PM
THATS RIGHT.....AT LEAST A MILLION PEOPLE PER SECOND HAVE TO DIE BEFORE
ITS AN OFFICIAL CIVIL WAR.
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