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User: "Harry Hope"
Date: 24 Aug 2004 06:50:17 PM
Object: Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy.
From The Los Angeles Times, 8/24/04:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer24aug24,1,2411328.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy
By Robert Scheer

With just 70 days until election day, the race for the presidency has
gone from bitter to outright poisonous:
John Kerry is faulted in television ads by President Bush's moneyed
allies for winning combat medals in a war that Bush avoided, then
slammed by the same hypocrites for having the courage to criticize
that war after his return as a wounded vet.
Meanwhile, Bush pretends to be above the fray, all the while parading
as a war commander and boasting, bizarrely, about his mythical
achievements in the invasion of Iraq.
That war, like Vietnam, has been a costly disaster since its
inception.
In an eerie echo of previous presidents who knowingly lied us into the
Vietnam horror, always affirming that victory was "just around the
corner," Bush's latest campaign ads prematurely declare Afghanistan
and Iraq as the world's newest democracies.
According to the implicit logic of one ad, the proof can be found in
the fact that they both sent teams to the Olympics.
Never mind that both countries are racked by insurgencies and
warlordism and dependent on U.S. troops for what passes for security.
Forget that both countries are under martial law and their leaders are
unelected U.S. appointees.
Cover your eyes to the fact that both countries are squalid economic
basket cases, with the vast majority of the populace unemployed -- or,
in the case of Afghanistan, cultivating opium poppies.
Ignore the facts.
They're democracies because George W. Bush says so.
But members of the very successful Iraqi Olympic soccer team beg to
differ, blasting Bush's attempt to use their participation in the
Games as justification for the U.S. occupation of their country.
"My problems are not with the American people," Iraq's soccer coach,
Adnan Hamad Majeed, told the Associated Press.
"They are with what America has done in Iraq: destroy everything. The
American Army has killed so many people in Iraq."
His star midfielder, Salih Sadir, agreed:
"Iraq as a team doesn't want Mr. Bush to use us [in an ad] for the
presidential campaign…. We don't wish for the presence of the
Americans in our country. We want them to go away."
These are not anonymous bomb throwers sending notes to the media.
These are Iraq's favorite sons, stars of the national sport.
Yet they all seem to be saying the same thing:
America's military is not wanted on our land.
Another team member, Ahmed Manajid, demanded to know:
"How will [Bush] meet his God having slaughtered so many men and
women? He has committed so many crimes."
The athlete added that were he not playing for his country he would
"for sure" be fighting in the Iraqi resistance.
"I want to defend my home. If a stranger invades America and the
people resist, does that mean they are terrorists?" Manajid asked.
That is a legitimate question that no one in the Bush administration
and few in Congress want to grapple with.
And yet we wonder why, 15 months after the United States "liberated"
Iraq, are there so many people there who hate us?
The honest answer would be similar to the one once offered by Vietnam
vet and now-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell to explain the failure
of the U.S. occupation of South Vietnam:
"We had been sent to pursue a policy that had become bankrupt," Powell
wrote in his autobiography.
"Our political leaders had led us into a war for the one-size-fits-all
rationale of anti-communism, which was only a partial fit in Vietnam,
where the war had its own historical roots in nationalism,
anti-colonialism and civil strife beyond the East-West conflict."
The only essential difference between Powell's remarks and the 1971
remarks by Kerry that Bush supporters cite in their ugly smear
campaign is that Powell's dissent came 20 years too late to stop the
carnage.
Those who attack Kerry for speaking out in 1971 against the Vietnam
War don't understand that it was an enormous public service for
returning American veterans to expose the cynicism of their leaders,
as Kerry did in testifying before the U.S. Senate.
The young Kerry was speaking truth to power, facing a reality that
presidents Richard Nixon and Lyndon B. Johnson had admitted in
private, as records made public later revealed.
In private White House tapes, Johnson made it clear he could never
justify the death of a single U.S. soldier in Vietnam.
His successor, knowing the war was unwinnable, nevertheless
carpet-bombed the region in order to fend off an inevitable defeat
until after his reelection campaign.
In the end, who better than veterans to speak out when our commander
in chief has betrayed the trust of U.S. troops, sending them to kill
and be killed in an unnecessary war?
________________________________________________________
I'm sure y'all heard that Li'l Georgie may go to the Olympics to
attend an Iraqi soccer match. Well, Somehow I don't think that's gonna
happen now.
Harry
.

User: "Bill Levinson"

Title: Re: Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush'sFantasy. 24 Aug 2004 07:16:12 PM
Harry Hope wrote:

From The Los Angeles Times, 8/24/04:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer24aug24,1,2411328.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy

By Robert Scheer

With just 70 days until election day, the race for the presidency has
gone from bitter to outright poisonous:

John Kerry is faulted in television ads by President Bush's moneyed
allies for winning combat medals in a war that Bush avoided, then
slammed by the same hypocrites for

Knifing his fellow vets in the back:
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/vietcong.html
Hope this helps,
Bill
.
User: "Republican Bunker Mentality"

Title: Re: Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy. 24 Aug 2004 08:34:29 PM
--
"I'm just a dopey radio host" - Sean Hannity 08/12/2004 1:10PM
"Bill Levinson" <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in message
news:gTQWc.3014$Y%3.1805@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...



Harry Hope wrote:

From The Los Angeles Times, 8/24/04:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer24aug24,1,2411328.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions


Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy

By Robert Scheer

With just 70 days until election day, the race for the presidency has
gone from bitter to outright poisonous:

John Kerry is faulted in television ads by President Bush's moneyed
allies for winning combat medals in a war that Bush avoided, then
slammed by the same hypocrites for


Knifing his fellow vets in the back:
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/vietcong.html

Ah yes, Bill and his own website and were supposed to believe it's a
legitimate new source.
It is Bill. In the same vein as NewsMax.


Hope this helps,

Bill

.


User: "flashcat"

Title: Re: Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy. 24 Aug 2004 06:54:21 PM
Who.....
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Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999)
Voted NO on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted NO on school vouchers in DC. (Sep 1997)
Voted NO on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. (Jul 1994)
Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. (Nov 1999)
Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. (Jul
1996)
Voted NO on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat. (Sep 1999)
Voted YES on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. (Sep
1997)
Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)
Voted YES on killing a bill for trade sanctions if China sells weapons. (Sep
2000)
Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. (Oct 1999)
Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions.
(Jul 1998)
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1998)
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Voted NO on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. (Mar 1996)
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Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep
2001)
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(Mar 2002)
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(Feb 2002)
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2001)
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(Oct 1997)
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(Mar 2004)
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1998)
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2001)
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2001)
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1998)
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Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
Voted NO on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar
2001)
Voted NO on killing an increase in the minimum wage. (Nov 1999)
Voted NO on allowing workers to choose between overtime & comp-time. (May
1997)
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(Mar 2004)
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1998)
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1996)
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Voted YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr
2001)
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. (Mar 2000)
Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999)
Voted NO on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
Voted NO on school vouchers in DC. (Sep 1997)
Voted NO on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. (Jul 1994)
Voted YES on national education standards. (Feb 1994)
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Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar
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Well of course you know who.
They call him flipper, flipper, flipper.....
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:n1lni0t1b6f026altf657o3fgq27ko0mtq@4ax.com...


From The Los Angeles Times, 8/24/04:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer24aug24,1,2411328.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions


Iraqi Olympic Soccer Players Kick the Stuffing Out of Bush's Fantasy

By Robert Scheer

With just 70 days until election day, the race for the presidency has
gone from bitter to outright poisonous:

John Kerry is faulted in television ads by President Bush's moneyed
allies for winning combat medals in a war that Bush avoided, then
slammed by the same hypocrites for having the courage to criticize
that war after his return as a wounded vet.

Meanwhile, Bush pretends to be above the fray, all the while parading
as a war commander and boasting, bizarrely, about his mythical
achievements in the invasion of Iraq.

That war, like Vietnam, has been a costly disaster since its
inception.

In an eerie echo of previous presidents who knowingly lied us into the
Vietnam horror, always affirming that victory was "just around the
corner," Bush's latest campaign ads prematurely declare Afghanistan
and Iraq as the world's newest democracies.

According to the implicit logic of one ad, the proof can be found in
the fact that they both sent teams to the Olympics.

Never mind that both countries are racked by insurgencies and
warlordism and dependent on U.S. troops for what passes for security.

Forget that both countries are under martial law and their leaders are
unelected U.S. appointees.

Cover your eyes to the fact that both countries are squalid economic
basket cases, with the vast majority of the populace unemployed -- or,
in the case of Afghanistan, cultivating opium poppies.

Ignore the facts.

They're democracies because George W. Bush says so.

But members of the very successful Iraqi Olympic soccer team beg to
differ, blasting Bush's attempt to use their participation in the
Games as justification for the U.S. occupation of their country.

"My problems are not with the American people," Iraq's soccer coach,
Adnan Hamad Majeed, told the Associated Press.

"They are with what America has done in Iraq: destroy everything. The
American Army has killed so many people in Iraq."

His star midfielder, Salih Sadir, agreed:

"Iraq as a team doesn't want Mr. Bush to use us [in an ad] for the
presidential campaign.. We don't wish for the presence of the
Americans in our country. We want them to go away."

These are not anonymous bomb throwers sending notes to the media.

These are Iraq's favorite sons, stars of the national sport.

Yet they all seem to be saying the same thing:

America's military is not wanted on our land.

Another team member, Ahmed Manajid, demanded to know:

"How will [Bush] meet his God having slaughtered so many men and
women? He has committed so many crimes."

The athlete added that were he not playing for his country he would
"for sure" be fighting in the Iraqi resistance.

"I want to defend my home. If a stranger invades America and the
people resist, does that mean they are terrorists?" Manajid asked.

That is a legitimate question that no one in the Bush administration
and few in Congress want to grapple with.

And yet we wonder why, 15 months after the United States "liberated"
Iraq, are there so many people there who hate us?

The honest answer would be similar to the one once offered by Vietnam
vet and now-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell to explain the failure
of the U.S. occupation of South Vietnam:

"We had been sent to pursue a policy that had become bankrupt," Powell
wrote in his autobiography.

"Our political leaders had led us into a war for the one-size-fits-all
rationale of anti-communism, which was only a partial fit in Vietnam,
where the war had its own historical roots in nationalism,
anti-colonialism and civil strife beyond the East-West conflict."

The only essential difference between Powell's remarks and the 1971
remarks by Kerry that Bush supporters cite in their ugly smear
campaign is that Powell's dissent came 20 years too late to stop the
carnage.

Those who attack Kerry for speaking out in 1971 against the Vietnam
War don't understand that it was an enormous public service for
returning American veterans to expose the cynicism of their leaders,
as Kerry did in testifying before the U.S. Senate.

The young Kerry was speaking truth to power, facing a reality that
presidents Richard Nixon and Lyndon B. Johnson had admitted in
private, as records made public later revealed.

In private White House tapes, Johnson made it clear he could never
justify the death of a single U.S. soldier in Vietnam.

His successor, knowing the war was unwinnable, nevertheless
carpet-bombed the region in order to fend off an inevitable defeat
until after his reelection campaign.

In the end, who better than veterans to speak out when our commander
in chief has betrayed the trust of U.S. troops, sending them to kill
and be killed in an unnecessary war?

________________________________________________________

I'm sure y'all heard that Li'l Georgie may go to the Olympics to
attend an Iraqi soccer match. Well, Somehow I don't think that's gonna
happen now.

Harry

.


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