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User: "TheMan"
Date: 18 Jun 2004 12:54:13 AM
Object: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion
Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.
http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142
Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"
etc etc.
Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID cards,
which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
goal vital for Israel's survical."
Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to use
the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital for
Germany's survival."?
Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys upsets
me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks up,
can't blame them.
When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if they
ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to fail
to see what they have become?
-TheMan-
.

User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 03:00:33 AM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,

Muslim"

etc etc.

It's their country, they can do as they please.
It is a democracy you know.
If the populace didn't like this they would do something.
All the bitching I hear is from outside ax grinders.
Get a life.
Jim E
.
User: "TheMan"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 05:09:05 AM
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,

Muslim"

etc etc.


It's their country, they can do as they please.
It is a democracy you know.
If the populace didn't like this they would do something.

So Germany during the 1930's and 1940's didn't do anything wrong then? And
if this is the case, why do we hear whinging from the Zionists.
-TheMan-
.
User: "RacingFan"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 05:32:38 AM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.
http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142
Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID

cards"

which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,

Muslim"

etc etc.

It's their country, they can do as they please.
It is a democracy you know.
If the populace didn't like this they would do something.

So Germany during the 1930's and 1940's didn't do anything wrong then? And
if this is the case, why do we hear whinging from the Zionists.

Oh, the IRONY! isn't it wonderful?
.

User: "Riain Y. Barton"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 11:46:56 PM
Aye, and in the states your required to carry a either a state driver's
license or a state I.D. --- You are not ticketed or carried off to gaol if
you do not have it on you -- but you will not be able to do nearly anything
at all and if stopped by the police, you will look suspicious with out one
of the two.
And in Europe most people use their passports as if they were national I.D.,
and some countries do issue national I.D.'s!!!
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
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|
| "Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:2jflp7F10jdq7U1@uni-berlin.de...
| >
| > "TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
| > news:9svAc.32904$sj4.5954@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| > > Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.
| > >
| > > http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142
| > >
| > > Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID
cards"
| > > which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,
| > Muslim"
| > > etc etc.
| > >
| >
| > It's their country, they can do as they please.
| > It is a democracy you know.
| > If the populace didn't like this they would do something.
|
| So Germany during the 1930's and 1940's didn't do anything wrong then? And
| if this is the case, why do we hear whinging from the Zionists.
|
| -TheMan-
|
|
.



User: "Paul Abeles"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 01:04:52 AM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
news:9svAc.32904$sj4.5954@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,

Muslim"

etc etc.

Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID cards,
which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
goal vital for Israel's survical."

Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to use
the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital

for

Germany's survival."?

Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys

upsets

me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks up,
can't blame them.

When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if

they

ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to

fail

to see what they have become?

-TheMan-

Just remember that many Israeli Jews also object to this pseudo-apartheid.
As per my link. Not all Jews are racist bitches like Tonya.
.
User: "Riain Y. Barton"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 01:49:57 AM
The only racist ***** here is YOU!
"Paul Abeles" <abeles@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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|
| "TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message
| news:9svAc.32904$sj4.5954@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
| > Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.
| >
| > http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142
| >
| > Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
| > which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian,
| Muslim"
| > etc etc.
| >
| > Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
| > "Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID
cards,
| > which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
| > Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
| > passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
| > order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
| > goal vital for Israel's survical."
| >
| > Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to
use
| > the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
| > hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital
| for
| > Germany's survival."?
| >
| > Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys
| upsets
| > me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks
up,
| > can't blame them.
| >
| > When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if
| they
| > ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to
| fail
| > to see what they have become?
| >
| > -TheMan-
|
|
| Just remember that many Israeli Jews also object to this pseudo-apartheid.
| As per my link. Not all Jews are racist bitches like Tonya.
|
|
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 03:03:27 AM
"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The only racist ***** here is YOU!

Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?
That's all I've seen so far.
Jim E
.
User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 04:25:35 AM
"Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The only racist ***** here is YOU!


Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?

When he's *answering* nothing but vitriol & ad hominum noise, yes.
Susan

That's all I've seen so far.

Jim E


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User: "BTov"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 21 Jun 2004 02:29:08 AM
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"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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The only racist ***** here is YOU!


Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?


When he's *answering* nothing but vitriol & ad hominum noise, yes.

Susan

yes flabbia
dont criticize another convert
you wont get your kosher certificate
b'wahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
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User: "Susan Cohen"

Title: FORGERY: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 21 Jun 2004 01:04:56 PM
"BTov" <dkastor6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
It was about 8:30 when the phony rev posted these projectionary fantasies.
Which means he's either on the dole, or stealing from his employers.
Susan
.


User: "Riain Y. Barton"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 11:42:07 PM
ahmein sela!
"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
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|
| "Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com> wrote in message
| news:2jflugF10i0kdU1@uni-berlin.de...
| >
| > "Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
| > news:pgwAc.16087$Y3.9752@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
| > > The only racist ***** here is YOU!
| > >
| >
| > Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
| > noise ?
|
| When he's *answering* nothing but vitriol & ad hominum noise, yes.
|
| Susan
|
| > That's all I've seen so far.
| >
| > Jim E
| >
| >
|
|
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User: "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 11:47:41 PM
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:03:27 -0700, "Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com>
wrote:


"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pgwAc.16087$Y3.9752@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

The only racist ***** here is YOU!


Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?
That's all I've seen so far.

He's a fucking convert. They taught the little ***** to be obnoxious
in jew conversion school and now he's trying to outjew the jews.
.
User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 12:46:40 AM
"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <renigade@anglican.org> wrote in message
news:40d3c56c.5923096@news.tiscali.co.uk...

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:03:27 -0700, "Jim E" <fatboy-plonker-@aol.com>
wrote:


"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pgwAc.16087$Y3.9752@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

The only racist ***** here is YOU!


Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?
That's all I've seen so far.


He's a fucking convert. They taught the little ***** to be obnoxious
in jew conversion school and now he's trying to outjew the jews.

Speaking of bigots, I don't remember mentioning anyone's
religion or ethnicity, you seem to have a problem.
Are you a nazi or just stupid?
Never mind, redundant question.
Jim E
.
User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 07:08:57 AM

Subject: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion
From: "Jim E"


Date: 6/19/2004 1:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <2ji2a0F11tqgaU1@uni-berlin.de>


"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <renigade@anglican.org> wrote in message
news:40d3c56c.5923096@news.tiscali.co.uk...

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:03:27 -0700, "Jim E" <

>
wrote:


"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:pgwAc.16087$Y3.9752@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...

The only racist ***** here is YOU!


Do all your posts consist of vitriol and ad hominum
noise ?
That's all I've seen so far.


He's a fucking convert. They taught the little ***** to be obnoxious
in jew conversion school and now he's trying to outjew the jews.


Speaking of bigots, I don't remember mentioning anyone's
religion or ethnicity, you seem to have a problem.
Are you a nazi or just stupid?
Never mind, redundant question.

Jim E

Jimmy, it is interesting that you play the bigot game and then associate it
with being a Nazi. The Israel are clearly bigots and racist but they are not
nazi? Why do you continue to play that silly game?
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
.




User: "William J. Wolfe"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 06:53:26 PM
"Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<pgwAc.16087$Y3.9752@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

The only racist ***** here is YOU!

Nobody asked for your opinion, queer boy.
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User: "Riain Y. Barton"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 11:42:38 PM
no one asked for yours *****-boy!
"William J. Wolfe" <w_j_wolfe2oo3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| "Riain Y. Barton" <riain802@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| > The only racist ***** here is YOU!
|
| Nobody asked for your opinion, queer boy.
.




User: "JGB"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 04:46:22 PM
"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message news:<9svAc.32904$sj4.5954@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality<

Yes, whereas in the US most places use drivers' licensces for ID's, in
the old days most Israelis didn't have cars. But it is true that on the
ID is listed one's citizenship status, ethnicity or nationality, and
religion. So an Israeli Christian Arab would be listed as a Citizen,
Arab ethnicity, Christian religion, whereas an American Jewish citizen
residing in Israel might be listed as REsident, nationality American,
religion-Jewish, etc.
as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"

etc etc.


Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID cards,
which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
goal vital for Israel's survical."<

I don't know about that. Most countries have ID cards and the US is one
of the few that has no national ID. It is not "politically correct"
anymore to have a person's ethnicity or religion explicitly cited in any
police or US government document albeit questions about ethnicity are
still asked on census forms for whatever reasons. We can assume that once
the wars with the Arabs is over, Israeli police and other authorities
will not have any need for such an explicit document. Meanwhile, ethnic
"profiling" is still part of Israel's security needs while the terror
war remains. Until "9/11" the US has never needed such a compilation
data, but now the terror war is in America too, and as a result, the
government has a much freer hand to assemble information about its
residents including ethnicity and religious affiliation.

Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to use
the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital for
Germany's survival."?<

This is nonsense. Probably ALL countries in Europe had ID papers and most
probably still do. At any rate the Nazi tactics seemed to have worked
since the pre-war Jewish population of Germany was nearly an half-million
whereas now it is more like 200,000. I wish the listing of Arab Muslim
ID's did work to reduce Israel's Arab population, but alas, it doesn't.
Like energizer bunnies, those Arabs just keep multiplying and multiplying
and multiplying.

Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys upsets
me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks up,
can't blame them.<

Why? Do you think Jews were not listed as such in documents in the Arab
countries where they lived? Israel is at constant war, and has been since
1922. Do you think it is like America, letting ARabs just run around taking
flying lessons without learning how to take off or land, and just to
steer and crash? Only in America does the state let everyone run around
free and easy like that. That's why EVERYONE wants to come to America to
do whatever the hell they want, when and where they want. Israel isn't
that free. It's at war with the Arab world and 20% of its citizens are ARabs.

When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if they
ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to fail
to see what they have become?<

THey never expected that after the Holocaust they would still have a billion
and a half people trying to still exterminate them, or at least wipe out their
tiny state. But listen, unlike the US in WWII, Israel has not yet locked up
its Arab population in camps the way the US did to the Japanese-Americans.
So it's all relative.


-TheMan-

.
User: "Paul Abeles"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 11:44:15 PM
"JGB" <jgarbuz@netzero.com> wrote in message
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message

news:<9svAc.32904$sj4.5954@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality<


Yes, whereas in the US most places use drivers' licensces for ID's, in
the old days most Israelis didn't have cars. But it is true that on the
ID is listed one's citizenship status, ethnicity or nationality, and
religion. So an Israeli Christian Arab would be listed as a Citizen,
Arab ethnicity, Christian religion, whereas an American Jewish citizen
residing in Israel might be listed as REsident, nationality American,
religion-Jewish, etc.

as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"

etc etc.


Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID

cards,

which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
goal vital for Israel's survical."<


I don't know about that. Most countries have ID cards and the US is one
of the few that has no national ID. It is not "politically correct"
anymore to have a person's ethnicity or religion explicitly cited in any
police or US government document albeit questions about ethnicity are
still asked on census forms for whatever reasons. We can assume that once
the wars with the Arabs is over, Israeli police and other authorities
will not have any need for such an explicit document. Meanwhile, ethnic
"profiling" is still part of Israel's security needs while the terror
war remains. Until "9/11" the US has never needed such a compilation
data, but now the terror war is in America too, and as a result, the
government has a much freer hand to assemble information about its
residents including ethnicity and religious affiliation.

Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to

use

the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital

for

Germany's survival."?<


This is nonsense. Probably ALL countries in Europe had ID papers and most
probably still do. At any rate the Nazi tactics seemed to have worked
since the pre-war Jewish population of Germany was nearly an half-million
whereas now it is more like 200,000. I wish the listing of Arab Muslim
ID's did work to reduce Israel's Arab population, but alas, it doesn't.
Like energizer bunnies, those Arabs just keep multiplying and multiplying
and multiplying.

Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys

upsets

me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks

up,

can't blame them.<


Why? Do you think Jews were not listed as such in documents in the Arab
countries where they lived? Israel is at constant war, and has been since
1922. Do you think it is like America, letting ARabs just run around

taking

flying lessons without learning how to take off or land, and just to
steer and crash? Only in America does the state let everyone run around
free and easy like that. That's why EVERYONE wants to come to America to
do whatever the hell they want, when and where they want. Israel isn't
that free. It's at war with the Arab world and 20% of its citizens are

ARabs.


When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if

they

ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to

fail

to see what they have become?<


THey never expected that after the Holocaust they would still have a

billion

and a half people trying to still exterminate them, or at least wipe out

their

tiny state. But listen, unlike the US in WWII, Israel has not yet locked

up

its Arab population in camps the way the US did to the Japanese-Americans.
So it's all relative.

But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with say
Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.
.
User: "Michael Yardley"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 05:17:42 PM
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"TheMan" <noreply@noreply.com> wrote in message

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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality<


Yes, whereas in the US most places use drivers' licensces for ID's, in
the old days most Israelis didn't have cars. But it is true that on the
ID is listed one's citizenship status, ethnicity or nationality, and
religion. So an Israeli Christian Arab would be listed as a Citizen,
Arab ethnicity, Christian religion, whereas an American Jewish citizen
residing in Israel might be listed as REsident, nationality American,
religion-Jewish, etc.

as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"

etc etc.


Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID

cards,

which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish identity.
Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the same
passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only in
order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state, the
goal vital for Israel's survical."<


I don't know about that. Most countries have ID cards and the US is one
of the few that has no national ID. It is not "politically correct"
anymore to have a person's ethnicity or religion explicitly cited in any
police or US government document albeit questions about ethnicity are
still asked on census forms for whatever reasons. We can assume that once
the wars with the Arabs is over, Israeli police and other authorities
will not have any need for such an explicit document. Meanwhile, ethnic
"profiling" is still part of Israel's security needs while the terror
war remains. Until "9/11" the US has never needed such a compilation
data, but now the terror war is in America too, and as a result, the
government has a much freer hand to assemble information about its
residents including ethnicity and religious affiliation.

Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used to

use

the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to keep
hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal vital

for

Germany's survival."?<


This is nonsense. Probably ALL countries in Europe had ID papers and most
probably still do. At any rate the Nazi tactics seemed to have worked
since the pre-war Jewish population of Germany was nearly an half-million
whereas now it is more like 200,000. I wish the listing of Arab Muslim
ID's did work to reduce Israel's Arab population, but alas, it doesn't.
Like energizer bunnies, those Arabs just keep multiplying and multiplying
and multiplying.

Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys

upsets

me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy fucks

up,

can't blame them.<


Why? Do you think Jews were not listed as such in documents in the Arab
countries where they lived? Israel is at constant war, and has been since
1922. Do you think it is like America, letting ARabs just run around

taking

flying lessons without learning how to take off or land, and just to
steer and crash? Only in America does the state let everyone run around
free and easy like that. That's why EVERYONE wants to come to America to
do whatever the hell they want, when and where they want. Israel isn't
that free. It's at war with the Arab world and 20% of its citizens are

ARabs.


When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder if

they

ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion to

fail

to see what they have become?<


THey never expected that after the Holocaust they would still have a

billion

and a half people trying to still exterminate them, or at least wipe out

their

tiny state. But listen, unlike the US in WWII, Israel has not yet locked

up

its Arab population in camps the way the US did to the Japanese-Americans.
So it's all relative.


But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with say
Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land. They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>>
.
User: "Paul Abeles"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 09:18:39 PM
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Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID

cards"

which make you list your nationality<


Yes, whereas in the US most places use drivers' licensces for ID's, in
the old days most Israelis didn't have cars. But it is true that on

the

ID is listed one's citizenship status, ethnicity or nationality, and
religion. So an Israeli Christian Arab would be listed as a Citizen,
Arab ethnicity, Christian religion, whereas an American Jewish citizen
residing in Israel might be listed as REsident, nationality American,
religion-Jewish, etc.

as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"

etc etc.


Quote from one of the Zionazi's posting here:
"Israeli citizenship has nothing to do with the internal Israeli ID

cards,

which are needed in the state that wants to protect its Jewish

identity.

Israeli nationals have the same rights in the state, they have the

same

passports when travelling outside it. And the ID cards are used only

in

order to keep hand on the pulse of the Jewish identity of the state,

the

goal vital for Israel's survical."<


I don't know about that. Most countries have ID cards and the US is

one

of the few that has no national ID. It is not "politically correct"
anymore to have a person's ethnicity or religion explicitly cited in

any

police or US government document albeit questions about ethnicity are
still asked on census forms for whatever reasons. We can assume that

once

the wars with the Arabs is over, Israeli police and other authorities
will not have any need for such an explicit document. Meanwhile,

ethnic

"profiling" is still part of Israel's security needs while the terror
war remains. Until "9/11" the US has never needed such a compilation
data, but now the terror war is in America too, and as a result, the
government has a much freer hand to assemble information about its
residents including ethnicity and religious affiliation.

Does this not sound like an apartheid state? Didn't the Nazi's used

to

use

the same techniques to keep track of their Jew population "order to

keep

hand on the pulse of the Christian identity of the state, the goal

vital

for

Germany's survival."?<


This is nonsense. Probably ALL countries in Europe had ID papers and

most

probably still do. At any rate the Nazi tactics seemed to have worked
since the pre-war Jewish population of Germany was nearly an

half-million

whereas now it is more like 200,000. I wish the listing of Arab Muslim
ID's did work to reduce Israel's Arab population, but alas, it

doesn't.

Like energizer bunnies, those Arabs just keep multiplying and

multiplying

and multiplying.

Every new detail I discover on Israeli's disgusting treating of Goys

upsets

me even more. No wonder the Arabs are trying to blow these lousy

fucks

up,

can't blame them.<


Why? Do you think Jews were not listed as such in documents in the

Arab

countries where they lived? Israel is at constant war, and has been

since

1922. Do you think it is like America, letting ARabs just run around

taking

flying lessons without learning how to take off or land, and just to
steer and crash? Only in America does the state let everyone run

around

free and easy like that. That's why EVERYONE wants to come to America

to

do whatever the hell they want, when and where they want. Israel isn't
that free. It's at war with the Arab world and 20% of its citizens are

ARabs.


When the Jews complain about the Nazi's from WW2, you have to wonder

if

they

ever look in the mirror first, or are they that blinded by religion

to

fail

to see what they have become?<


THey never expected that after the Holocaust they would still have a

billion

and a half people trying to still exterminate them, or at least wipe

out

their

tiny state. But listen, unlike the US in WWII, Israel has not yet

locked

up

its Arab population in camps the way the US did to the

Japanese-Americans.

So it's all relative.


But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land. They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>>

By having different nationalities Israel appears to be alienating their
minorities either through ignorance or intent.
Obviously non-Jewish citizens are considered and treated as second class.
Including Christians.
Incidentally atheist Jews are still recorded as Jews.
.

User: "JGB"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 09:30:10 PM
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<

The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider themselves
part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<

This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <

Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><

The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.
.
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Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 11:12:14 PM
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one.

I know it's been part of Jewish life since day one... what with the Stern
Gang and various other Jewish terrorist groups killing Arabs and British in
terror attacks it's no surprise you see terrorism part of the Jewish
lifestyle. The day Jewish terrorism stopped was the day you got your way and
got some land, isn't that ironic? You expect the Arabs to stop their
terrorism before they get their way, when your own people wouldn't stop till
they got their own way. The Jews purposely bombed British interests to get
land.
-TheMan-
.
User: "Michael Yardley"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 01:08:58 PM
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one.


I know it's been part of Jewish life since day one... what with the Stern
Gang and various other Jewish terrorist groups killing Arabs and British in
terror attacks it's no surprise you see terrorism part of the Jewish
lifestyle. The day Jewish terrorism stopped was the day you got your way and
got some land, isn't that ironic? You expect the Arabs to stop their
terrorism before they get their way, when your own people wouldn't stop till
they got their own way. The Jews purposely bombed British interests to get
land.

-TheMan-

What about all the organized crime you have in Israel with all

the Russian Mafia that you let in. They run most of the clubs from
what I hear. Israel is a big problem right now so they got to settle
with the Arabs. I hear they feed the pot to the Isreal Army. True?


.
User: "JGB"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 21 Jun 2004 04:27:55 PM
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....

The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one.


I know it's been part of Jewish life since day one... what with the Stern
Gang and various other Jewish terrorist groups killing Arabs and British in
terror attacks it's no surprise you see terrorism part of the Jewish
lifestyle. <

The underground JEwish "terror" groups, condemned by the mainstream
zionist agency, only began in 1939 after Britain stabbed the Jews in
the back by locking the Jews trying to escape Hitler to Palestine by
implementing the "White Paper" in order to try to appease the Arabs
for Iraqi and other Middle Eastern oil as war loomed. Then, as always,
Jews were the first to be sacrificed. Only THEN did a few tiny groups,
like the Stern, come into existence. But long before that, the Arab
terrorist groups led by Yassir Arafat's uncle, Haj Amin El Husseini,
were murdering Jews and moderate Arabs from 1921 onwards. During the
the Mufti escaped to Berlin and continued his Jew-killing work with
Hitler
and Eichmann from there. So it is a total lie to state that the Jews
started terror in the ME. Muhammad started terror when he robbed,
murdered and ethnically cleansed the JEws out of Medina and the rest
of the Hijaz.

The day Jewish terrorism stopped was the day you got your way and
got some land, isn't that ironic? You expect the Arabs to stop their
terrorism before they get their way, when your own people wouldn't stop till
they got their own way. The Jews purposely bombed British interests to get
land.<<

The British government had promised Palestine to the JEws, and as soon
as the ARabs made a terrorist uprising from 1936 to 1939, and with
WWII
looming, the Brits went back on their word. So it was Arab terror
combined with British duplicity and Hitler on the horizon that forced
some Jews to begin underground operations. And in the beginning they
were only against installations. Only when Jewish "terrorists" were
hanged by the Brits did the Jewish "terrorists" begin to kill British
soldiers. But they did not behead them. They hanged the same way the
Jewish terrorists were hanged. No beheading or mutilations like the
bloody Arab savage way. Get your history down STRAIGHT!


-TheMan-

What about all the organized crime you have in Israel with all

the Russian Mafia that you let in. They run most of the clubs from
what I hear. Israel is a big problem right now so they got to settle
with the Arabs. I hear they feed the pot to the Isreal Army. True?


.



User: "Paul Abeles"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 09:42:25 PM
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.

Jake I would even fight for the people of Israel if its survival was
threatened by Arab hordes, however that doesn't stop me criticising it.
.
User: "James"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 11:16:56 PM
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war

with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of

their

life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.


Jake I would even fight for the people of Israel if its survival was
threatened by Arab hordes, however that doesn't stop me criticising it.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ROTFLMAO
Now that is funny.
Mr. Abeles, I don’t know if that is the biggest lie you have ever told or
not but it has to rank near the top.
Sir, fresh and salt water do not both flow from the same well. You would
have to really love someone to be willing to die for them. You can’t both
love and hate the Jews. It is too late, you have already shown your cards
so to speak. There is no way a Jew hater like yourself is ever going to put
himself in harms way to protect a Jew.
Does lying not embarrass you at all?
I am still laughing at the thought of you ever fighting for Israel.
--
We must never forget that on Sept.12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at
half-staff and the Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
.
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But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war

with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't

the

Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the

Gaza

Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one

square

inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still

didn't

make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of

their

life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will

never

surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.


Jake I would even fight for the people of Israel if its survival was
threatened by Arab hordes, however that doesn't stop me criticising it.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ROTFLMAO

Now that is funny.

Mr. Abeles, I don't know if that is the biggest lie you have ever told or
not but it has to rank near the top.

Sir, fresh and salt water do not both flow from the same well. You would
have to really love someone to be willing to die for them. You can't both
love and hate the Jews. It is too late, you have already shown your cards
so to speak. There is no way a Jew hater like yourself is ever going to

put

himself in harms way to protect a Jew.

Does lying not embarrass you at all?

I am still laughing at the thought of you ever fighting for Israel.

For your information I have on occasions protected Jews from both verbal and
physical assault. How many goyim have you protected?
For instance I protected an obviusly orthodox Jew from abuse and possible
assault from a couple of Arabs in Bondi Junction.
We must never forget that on Sept.11, 2001, Israelis were dancing in joy
watching the WTC burn.
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User: "Michael Yardley"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 01:04:32 PM
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142



But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with

say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider

themselves

part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.


Jake I would even fight for the people of Israel if its survival was
threatened by Arab hordes, however that doesn't stop me criticising it.


You do not have to fight. If Iran gets nuclear bombs one

missile and Israel is finished. They continue to support Hes-bola in
Lebanon. So you had better send your air force over to Iran and bomb
the Nuclear facilities in Mashad and Isfahan real quick the same way
you did to Iraq two decades ago. >>>>>
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User: "Michael Yardley"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 20 Jun 2004 12:57:21 PM
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142



But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider themselves
part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

I have heard that said before. "Don't the Arabs have enough

land?" . Unfortunately for Israel they occupy land that is holy to
Islam. The Palestinians are entitled to a homeland the same as the
Jews are. The Palestinians will be getting the Gaza and West Bank. You
will have to work out a deal that the holy sites in Jerusalem be
shared. A good idea would be to move the United Nations to Jerusalem
and have the United Nation Troops look after it. That is an
unrealistic dream. This wall that you are building is like the Berlin
Wall. The current Boss of Israel is on the right track getting the
settlers out of the Gaza by offering them money to move. They will
have to anyway whether they like it or not. The Jews and Arabs have
been fighting for to long and it is time you sorted out your problems.
After this mess in Iraq the American people are fed up with
subsidizing Israel and that has to stop.>>>


They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

You are living in the past. Hitler is old news and you Jews are

also very effective in your propaganda. Aster Family Global News in
Winnipeg Ca. they are aways pro Israel. What happened in the past has
no baring. You have to live in the reality of today. You Jews have
nuclear weapons in Israel and Iran is on the brink of getting them,so
you have to settle your problems or it will in the long run go to
nuclear war. So you have got to settle this long running dispute on
yourselfs. That means giving the Palestine's a homeland and Stte of
Israel living side by side with the Palestine's.>>>>


If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter. For the rest of the world perhaps such
terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.

<<<<<< So what where they 2000 years ago or so when they where
fighting then?The Arabs are having more babies in Israel,so in twenty
years their will be more in Israel then there are Jews. You are so
brave to say you will never surrender to Arab terror. I say you are
just stubborn and dumb. Killing people in todays world is not
acceptable whether you are religious or not Arab or Jew. God has said
that you duds have to give up land for peace and that is what you have
to do. IE Get out of Gaza and the West Bank as it does not belong to
you. It belongs to the Palestine's. So you had better stop building
your real state on it and move apas.>>>>
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User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 19 Jun 2004 09:55:02 PM

Subject: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion
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Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142



But Arab isn't really a nationality? However if Israel was at war with say

Egypt I'd imagine Egyptians may be interned.<


The 22 Arab nations, including Egypt, theoretically all consider themselves
part of the Greater Arab nation. Yet they have 22 seats in the UN.

Sharon has Bush up his ***** so anything passed by the United Nations can be
vetoed.


With all the terrorists that the State of Israel has to deal

with, it is basically a nation at War, it makes sense to have some
form of identification. Saying what religion dues not seem
unreasonable. The problem that I see is that religious
(Jewish)fanatics are occupying Arab land.<


This conflict is about two groups of people claiming the same soil
as theirs. SO we Jews consider it JEWISH LAND, not Arab land. Don't the
Arabs have enough land?

They now have to move as
they should. The state of Palestine will come when they leave the Gaza
Strip and West Bank. <


Why didn't it come from 1947 - 1967 when ISrael didn't occupy one square
inch of Gaza and the WEst Bank? Why were there Arab terror attacks on
Israel from 1947 - 1967 before the so-called "occupation." The Arab
propaganda is very effective, but then so was Hitler's. It still didn't
make it true.

If they do not, the terrorists will continue for
sure. >>>>>>>>>><


The Arab terrorists were killing JEws there in 1921, 1929, 1936-39,
1947-1967, and thereafter.

There were very few jews in the area until the end of WWII. The british census
of 1925 had 25,000 jews in the entire area. A handful. Jews only got
interested in the middle east when the zionist got popular.
For the rest of the world perhaps such

terrorism is a fairly new thing. FOr ISraeli Jews it's been part of their
life since before day one. So Israelis are not scared. Israel will never
surrender to Arab terror or lying propaganda.







Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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User: "Sheldon Liberman"

Title: Re: Israeli National ID cards make you list your religion 18 Jun 2004 07:43:56 AM
TheMan wrote:

Thanks to Paul Abeles for this one.

http://www.worldcampaign.net/forum/view.php?id=1142

Apparantly the Israeli Zionazi state makes all citizens carry "ID cards"
which make you list your nationality as either: "Jewish, Christian, Muslim"
etc etc.

Quote from one of the Ziona