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| User: |
"American Patriot" |
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19 May 2007 08:34:23 AM |
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It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans
The Bigots have lied to you by spinning the undocumented
Mexican issue. It is not "Conservative vs Liberal", but
is a basic human rights issue.
Mexicans are harassed mercilessly non stop, they are
kept from the basics elements that any other person
would be allowed to. Those same fringe Klan types, like
the Trancredos, specifically target Mexicans.
They also target "Hispanic" home grown citizens of the
USofA, they target the USofA Hispanic culture. They
Cannot get away with outright murder (not always) like
the Bigots did before, but they attack in other ways.
This has got to stop, the treatment of Mexicans in this
country is criminal.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 02:27:20 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of being
asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
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| User: "strabo" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 04:44:37 PM |
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Fred G. Mackey wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of
being asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
Oh, he's going to play the we-can't-identify-them-so-do-nothing
game!
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
Me thinks you have an ulterior motive.
More to the point, how can you avoid identifying an illegal alien?
80% can be easily identified. The detail you already know.
Getting rid of 80% will resolve the immediate problem.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 05:08:03 PM |
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strabo wrote:
Fred G. Mackey wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
Oh, he's going to play the we-can't-identify-them-so-do-nothing
game!
I'm not playing games, but evidently that's what you're doing.
GQ said it's easy to just turn them in. Well, I'm asking how to
identify them so we can turn them in.
I never said "so-do-nothing".
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
In fact, the US gov't. will fine employers that try too hard to identify
them.
Me thinks you have an ulterior motive.
You must be a conspiracy nut.
More to the point, how can you avoid identifying an illegal alien?
Gee - I saw some people with dark skin the other day. Were they illegal
aliens?
80% can be easily identified.
How?
The detail you already know.
If it's so simple, just tell us.
You and GQ are the ones playing games.
Getting rid of 80% will resolve the immediate problem.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 07:09:03 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:08:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
strabo wrote:
Fred G. Mackey wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
Oh, he's going to play the we-can't-identify-them-so-do-nothing
game!
I'm not playing games, but evidently that's what you're doing.
GQ said it's easy to just turn them in. Well, I'm asking how to
identify them so we can turn them in.
I never said "so-do-nothing".
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
Then you show how little you know or understand.
In fact, the US gov't. will fine employers that try too hard to identify
them.
Yes, that is because the government wants them here.
Me thinks you have an ulterior motive.
You must be a conspiracy nut.
And you must be just a plain nut to not understand that illegals
aren't all that difficult to pick out.
More to the point, how can you avoid identifying an illegal alien?
Gee - I saw some people with dark skin the other day. Were they illegal
aliens?
There are many illegals who are from China, Korea and many other
countries. You really need to get educated and then come back and
discuss this with the adults because all you keep doing is showing us
your lack of understanding of the problem at hand.
80% can be easily identified.
How?
The detail you already know.
If it's so simple, just tell us.
You and GQ are the ones playing games.
I already told you how, just a couple of ways but you are wanting to
play games so play by yourself little ignorant one.
Getting rid of 80% will resolve the immediate problem.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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20 May 2007 07:44:03 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:08:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
Then you show how little you know or understand.
And yet you cannot explain how you identify them - other than asking
them, of course.
That'll work real well.
In fact, the US gov't. will fine employers that try too hard to identify
them.
Yes, that is because the government wants them here.
Me thinks you have an ulterior motive.
You must be a conspiracy nut.
And you must be just a plain nut to not understand that illegals
aren't all that difficult to pick out.
More to the point, how can you avoid identifying an illegal alien?
Gee - I saw some people with dark skin the other day. Were they illegal
aliens?
There are many illegals who are from China, Korea and many other
countries.
Funny - I've explained that several times in this forum, but most people
only seem concerned about the ones with brown skin.
You really need to get educated and then come back and
discuss this with the adults because all you keep doing is showing us
your lack of understanding of the problem at hand.
80% can be easily identified.
How?
The detail you already know.
If it's so simple, just tell us.
You and GQ are the ones playing games.
I already told you how,
Only after I guessed your method. Here's a clue - it's not an effective
method.
just a couple of ways but you are wanting to
play games so play by yourself little ignorant one.
You're not helping the cause of eliminating illegal aliens with your
attitude.
Getting rid of 80% will resolve the immediate problem.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: listen to their conversations. I never let on that I can speak SpanishRe: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 10:19:42 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:08:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
Then you show how little you know or understand.
And yet you cannot explain how you identify them - other than asking
them, of course.
I already told you that I listen to their conversations. I never let
it be known that I speak Spanish. Listen, I am tired of sparring with
someone like you, who seems to be so unable to understand simple
processes, which shows you to be quite the uneducated oaf.
So, go on and ask silly questions over and over to others who are
willing to put up with your sillyness.
That'll work real well.
In fact, the US gov't. will fine employers that try too hard to identify
them.
Yes, that is because the government wants them here.
Me thinks you have an ulterior motive.
You must be a conspiracy nut.
And you must be just a plain nut to not understand that illegals
aren't all that difficult to pick out.
More to the point, how can you avoid identifying an illegal alien?
Gee - I saw some people with dark skin the other day. Were they illegal
aliens?
There are many illegals who are from China, Korea and many other
countries.
Funny - I've explained that several times in this forum, but most people
only seem concerned about the ones with brown skin.
You really need to get educated and then come back and
discuss this with the adults because all you keep doing is showing us
your lack of understanding of the problem at hand.
80% can be easily identified.
How?
The detail you already know.
If it's so simple, just tell us.
You and GQ are the ones playing games.
I already told you how,
Only after I guessed your method. Here's a clue - it's not an effective
method.
just a couple of ways but you are wanting to
play games so play by yourself little ignorant one.
You're not helping the cause of eliminating illegal aliens with your
attitude.
Getting rid of 80% will resolve the immediate problem.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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20 May 2007 11:09:44 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:08:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
Then you show how little you know or understand.
And yet you cannot explain how you identify them - other than asking
them, of course.
I already told you that I listen to their conversations.
You didn't actually say that before. You danced around the issue with
your silly games.
I never let
it be known that I speak Spanish.
So? You think all they talk about all day long is how they're illegal?
Listen, I am tired of sparring with
someone like you, who seems to be so unable to understand simple
processes, which shows you to be quite the uneducated oaf.
IOW, you're tired of being exposed as the ignorant blowhard you are.
So, go on and ask silly questions over and over to others who are
willing to put up with your sillyness.
You're obviously not really interested in fighting illegal aliens.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: listen to their conversations. I never let on that I can speak SpanishRe: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
21 May 2007 08:44:15 AM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 21:09:44 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:44:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 15:08:03 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Do you really believe that most illegal aliens cannot be identified?
I don't believe that the average citizen or even businesses can identify
them.
Then you show how little you know or understand.
And yet you cannot explain how you identify them - other than asking
them, of course.
I already told you that I listen to their conversations.
You didn't actually say that before. You danced around the issue with
your silly games.
I never let
it be known that I speak Spanish.
So? You think all they talk about all day long is how they're illegal?
Listen, I am tired of sparring with
someone like you, who seems to be so unable to understand simple
processes, which shows you to be quite the uneducated oaf.
IOW, you're tired of being exposed as the ignorant blowhard you are.
Nope, but you have proven that you have no reading comprehension and
really have no idea what you are discussing, as proven by any of your
questions and/or statements. Now, run along and make silly questions
for someone else who is willing to put up with them.
So, go on and ask silly questions over and over to others who are
willing to put up with your sillyness.
You're obviously not really interested in fighting illegal aliens.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 03:52:22 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:27:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of being
asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
It is not that hard at all, that is if one speaks Spanish. I can pick
them out all over the NM area and the southwest. I can also pick them
out in any other state where they reside also. Hell, most admit to it,
which shows their lack of intelligence.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 04:21:01 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:27:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
It is not that hard at all, that is if one speaks Spanish. I can pick
them out all over the NM area and the southwest. I can also pick them
out in any other state where they reside also. Hell, most admit to it,
which shows their lack of intelligence.
Ah - so you just ask them?
Right....
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 07:05:35 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:21:01 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:27:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
It is not that hard at all, that is if one speaks Spanish. I can pick
them out all over the NM area and the southwest. I can also pick them
out in any other state where they reside also. Hell, most admit to it,
which shows their lack of intelligence.
Ah - so you just ask them?
Right....
I have asked some, when I was a night supervisor and the person who
hired for a factory I worked at.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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20 May 2007 07:08:20 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:21:01 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:27:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
It is not that hard at all, that is if one speaks Spanish. I can pick
them out all over the NM area and the southwest. I can also pick them
out in any other state where they reside also. Hell, most admit to it,
which shows their lack of intelligence.
Ah - so you just ask them?
Right....
I have asked some, when I was a night supervisor and the person who
hired for a factory I worked at.
You and your employer are lucky the gov't didn't know about that.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 10:16:54 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:08:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 14:21:01 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 12:27:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
How can you tell if a person is an illegal alien?
It is not that hard at all, that is if one speaks Spanish. I can pick
them out all over the NM area and the southwest. I can also pick them
out in any other state where they reside also. Hell, most admit to it,
which shows their lack of intelligence.
Ah - so you just ask them?
Right....
I have asked some, when I was a night supervisor and the person who
hired for a factory I worked at.
You and your employer are lucky the gov't didn't know about that.
About what? What I did was legal completely. You seem to be a whack
job to think we did anything illegal or anything the government should
worry about, especially since we did gov contracts.
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 11:07:16 PM |
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Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:08:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
I have asked some, when I was a night supervisor and the person who
hired for a factory I worked at.
You and your employer are lucky the gov't didn't know about that.
About what? What I did was legal completely. You seem to be a whack
job to think we did anything illegal or anything the government should
worry about, especially since we did gov contracts.
Heh - so even though you claim to have been in a position to hire
people, you admit that your company hired illegal aliens and also claim
that employers can avoid hiring them.
very interesting.
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| User: "Graphic Queen" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
21 May 2007 08:16:49 AM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 21:07:16 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
Graphic Queen wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:08:20 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey" <do@not.spam>
wrote:
I have asked some, when I was a night supervisor and the person who
hired for a factory I worked at.
You and your employer are lucky the gov't didn't know about that.
About what? What I did was legal completely. You seem to be a whack
job to think we did anything illegal or anything the government should
worry about, especially since we did gov contracts.
Heh - so even though you claim to have been in a position to hire
people, you admit that your company hired illegal aliens and also claim
that employers can avoid hiring them.
very interesting.
nope, never hired one illegal stupid and I never said we did. You
really have no reading comprehension at all. I said I asked people who
came for interviews if they were illegals. You really are a whack job
who has shown an utter lack of the immigration laws and definitely no
reading comprehension.
I am done with the likes of you since you can't even read properly.
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 01:55:33 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:28 -0600, Graphic Queen <pagan@pagan.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of being
asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
That sounds wonderful. We can have neighbor ratting out neighbor.We
can have neighbors attacking neighbors. Hey - we can have the American
version of Krystallnacht. Why not just send the illegals to a gulag?
Worked for the Soviets. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
WB Yeats
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| User: "strabo" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
20 May 2007 04:37:40 PM |
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wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:28 -0600, Graphic Queen <pagan@pagan.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of being
asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
That sounds wonderful. We can have neighbor ratting out neighbor.We
can have neighbors attacking neighbors. Hey - we can have the American
version of Krystallnacht. Why not just send the illegals to a gulag?
Worked for the Soviets. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
By not removing these people now, more will come. Oh yes,
many more, and then more.
Why not? What is to stop them?
THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE.
But you, you have a lot to lose.
To do nothing is a mistake for more will come.
Amnesty would be a mistake for more will come.
What is to stop them?
What will you do when there are 50 million, then 100 million?
When inflation, which is already greater than at any time
in history, finally breaks through the optimism barrier and
the economy falters, then collapses?
What will you do when riots break out in the large cities
and vigilante groups roam the country side killing suspect
aliens? When the volunteer military refuses to volunteer
any more?
Think it couldn't happen?
Maybe you're an *open borders* fan?
Well, you are if you believe there will be no negative consequences
from 20+ million illegal aliens or do nothing to remove them.
Have you thought it through? Do you realize what would result.
from 'open borders'?
- Open borders means no border.
- No border means no nation.
- No nation means that there is no way to devise, maintain and
enforce law.
- No law means every man for himself. No privacy, no property,
no law and no culture.
- Within several generations anything will go and real wars begin,
not the petty police actions you are used to.
To minimize conflict is the basis for common law.
To minimize conflict is why fences were invented.
To minimize conflict is why borders were defined.
For Americans, to eliminate borders will also eliminate your free
choice of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and property.
If I'm wrong, cite an example of any stable culture and society
which has not defined and enforced its territory.
If I'm wrong, cite an example of any mammal which does not
define and enforce a territory.
WB Yeats
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
20 May 2007 03:50:47 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 18:55:33 GMT, wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:28 -0600, Graphic Queen <pagan@pagan.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:24:38 GMT, wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2007 21:11:38 -0500, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
They have all committed a felony by using a fake or stolen social
security number. Why aren't they arrested for this, instead of being
asking if they want to return voluntarily?
Will this felony be forgiven?
So what are you going to do about it? Lock them all up? Deport them?
Build a bigger fence? Outlaw Spanish as a language? As long as
American businesses and individuals continue to hire illegals, the
problem (if there is one) will remain. We in the US are supplying the
demand - the illegals the supply. Sounds like pure capitalism to me.
WB Yeats
They could be rounded up and deported. It would be really easy really.
One of the ways is to offer a bounty to citizens to turn illegals in
to the authorities. Most know where they hide out and live.
That sounds wonderful. We can have neighbor ratting out neighbor.We
can have neighbors attacking neighbors. Hey - we can have the American
version of Krystallnacht. Why not just send the illegals to a gulag?
Worked for the Soviets. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
WB Yeats
No reason to attack at all. Just call a phone number to call the
authorities and they could pick up said illegals. I turn illegals in
all of the time and if we were to offer a bounty, the illegals would
be turned in by the tens of thousands.
We don't want them in any gulag. We want them out of the country by
any means necessary.
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| User: "Kitty" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
19 May 2007 11:12:24 AM |
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"American Patriot" <kcajyer3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179588171.861528.54720@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On May 19, 7:48 am, ekrubmeg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 19, 6:34 am, American Patriot <kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans
The Bigots have lied to you by spinning the undocumented
Mexican issue. It is not "Conservative vs Liberal", but
is a basic human rights issue.
Mexicans are harassed mercilessly non stop, they are
kept from the basics elements that any other person
would be allowed to. Those same fringe Klan types, like
the Trancredos, specifically target Mexicans.
They also target "Hispanic" home grown citizens of the
USofA, they target the USofA Hispanic culture. They
Cannot get away with outright murder (not always) like
the Bigots did before, but they attack in other ways.
This has got to stop, the treatment of Mexicans in this
country is criminal.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
To start off with, they are criminals.
It's a misdemeanor not a felony to enter the USofA
without documents. Misdemeanor does not a criminal
make, otherwise 100% of the USofA would be behind
bars serving time, including yourself (that is if
you're not already there :(
American Patriot/Kcajyer
If you break the law you are
a criminal. What part of that don't you understand?- Hide quoted text -
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However, genius, the sum of all = 20,000,000+
crimes/misdemeanors..........so, by your "standards" its OK to break
misdemeanor laws?????
kitty
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| User: "T Jr Hardman" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumentedMexicans |
19 May 2007 02:11:35 PM |
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American Patriot wrote:
On May 19, 7:48 am, ekrubmeg <ekrub...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 19, 6:34 am, American Patriot <kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans
The Bigots have lied to you by spinning the undocumented
Mexican issue. It is not "Conservative vs Liberal", but
is a basic human rights issue.
Mexicans are harassed mercilessly non stop, they are
kept from the basics elements that any other person
would be allowed to. Those same fringe Klan types, like
the Trancredos, specifically target Mexicans.
They also target "Hispanic" home grown citizens of the
USofA, they target the USofA Hispanic culture. They
Cannot get away with outright murder (not always) like
the Bigots did before, but they attack in other ways.
This has got to stop, the treatment of Mexicans in this
country is criminal.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
To start off with, they are criminals.
It's a misdemeanor not a felony to enter the USofA
without documents. Misdemeanor does not a criminal
make, otherwise 100% of the USofA would be behind
bars serving time, including yourself (that is if
you're not already there :(
Sorry.
What makes a criminal is "mens rhea" or "criminal intent".
In the USA, one of the primary determinants of "criminal intent" is
whether or not the act had a furtive nature, or whether the course of
action appeared to have been embarked upon willfully and with full
knowledge of both the illegality of the act, and with intent to evade
the legal consequences.
Given that illegal aliens who sneak across the border are sneaking --
"sneaking" is another way of saying "furtive" -- and do so with
significant preparations, and then continue to compound that act with
subsequent crimes such as identity-theft and document forgery, it's
impossible for any reasonable person to categorize illegal aliens as
anything other than criminal.
Then again, nobody would ever mistake you for a reasonable person.
--
http://thomashardman.com/ Centrist, Moderate, Republican in Maryland
A true Conservative isn't about to let
the enemies of America ruin his streams for Trout.
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| User: "Serena" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
19 May 2007 11:26:14 AM |
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On May 19, 9:34 am, American Patriot <kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans
The Bigots have lied to you by spinning the undocumented
Mexican issue. It is not "Conservative vs Liberal", but
is a basic human rights issue.
Mexicans are harassed mercilessly non stop, they are
kept from the basics elements that any other person
would be allowed to. Those same fringe Klan types, like
the Trancredos, specifically target Mexicans.
They also target "Hispanic" home grown citizens of the
USofA, they target the USofA Hispanic culture. They
Cannot get away with outright murder (not always) like
the Bigots did before, but they attack in other ways.
This has got to stop, the treatment of Mexicans in this
country is criminal.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
It is a Human Rights issue. It's so sad to see that those who support
Amnesty do not realise that they also support continuation of Mexican
Government Corruption against those poor Mexicans who chose to stay in
their homeland. What does it say about the economic policy of a nation
whose primary source of income comes from those it had encouraged to
leave and work in another land and send money back?
And what about the wives and children who still wait for their
husbands to return?
http://www.artcamp.com.mx/venga
I cannot support Amnesty because I love the Mexican people
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| User: "Kitty" |
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| Title: Re: It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans |
19 May 2007 11:54:35 AM |
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"Serena" <lunallena916@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1179591974.181752.23070@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On May 19, 9:34 am, American Patriot <kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's Human Rights Not "Conservative vs Liberal"=undocumented Mexicans
The Bigots have lied to you by spinning the undocumented
Mexican issue. It is not "Conservative vs Liberal", but
is a basic human rights issue.
Mexicans are harassed mercilessly non stop, they are
kept from the basics elements that any other person
would be allowed to. Those same fringe Klan types, like
the Trancredos, specifically target Mexicans.
They also target "Hispanic" home grown citizens of the
USofA, they target the USofA Hispanic culture. They
Cannot get away with outright murder (not always) like
the Bigots did before, but they attack in other ways.
This has got to stop, the treatment of Mexicans in this
country is criminal.
American Patriot/Kcajyer
It is a Human Rights issue. It's so sad to see that those who support
Amnesty do not realise that they also support continuation of Mexican
Government Corruption against those poor Mexicans who chose to stay in
their homeland. What does it say about the economic policy of a nation
whose primary source of income comes from those it had encouraged to
leave and work in another land and send money back?
And what about the wives and children who still wait for their
husbands to return?
http://www.artcamp.com.mx/venga
I cannot support Amnesty because I love the Mexican people
I cannot support amnesty, I love MY country
kitty
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