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"I Ms Individual Rights" |
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13 Oct 2006 07:38:10 PM |
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Jane Fonda: TRAITOR |
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some
two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would
hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become
communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she
had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should
strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism.” – Jane
Fonda, per the Washington Times July 7, 2000
On 13 Oct 2006 at 16:13, ... wrote:
Hi,
You may have seen this before, but I did think it was interesting, how
soon
the past is forgotten.
Mary
IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT
EVERYONE
WILL KNOW!!!!!!.......
She really was a traitor
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A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century."
BY BARBRA WALTERS
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an
F-4E
pilot
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in the palm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in
blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many
people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343
PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO
EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF
ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
STATUS WILL CHANGE
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relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Melissa: Ignorant ***** |
15 Oct 2006 10:28:12 AM |
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"=> Vox Populi©" <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
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You ignorant psychotic *****.
Go kill yourself.
Do you mean me perchance?
A W-S
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Jane Fonda: TRAITOR |
13 Oct 2006 07:56:27 PM |
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"I Ms Individual Rights" <I-MsIndividualRights@One.pqr> wrote in message
news:Xns985BBD934A93AIndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some
two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would
hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become
communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she
had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should
strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism." - Jane
Fonda, per the Washington Times July 7, 2000
Shock horror - someone voices her opinion from a socialist viewpoint.
What a traitor. Kill the *****.
FFS - you rightards need to get a grip. Thought you used to be for free
speech.
Free speech means free speech - not just what the rightards 'approve' of.
As she said - 'if you understood what communism was' - clearly you don't.
Most Americans seem to think the old Russia was 'socialist' - it was a state
dictatorship - about as far right as it is possible to get - just where you
are heading right now.
There are plenty of examples of were socialism has worked - most of the
Scandinavian countries have socialist governments as does the UK.
These countries consistently top the quality of life and economic league
tables - The US is currently around 22nd - and falling.
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| User: "I Ms Individual Rights" |
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| Title: Re: Jane Fonda: TRAITOR |
13 Oct 2006 08:44:03 PM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@westnet.com.au> wrote :
"I Ms Individual Rights" <I-MsIndividualRights@One.pqr> wrote in
message news:Xns985BBD934A93AIndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of
some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was,
you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day
become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated
what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we
should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism."
- Jane Fonda, per the Washington Times July 7, 2000
Shock horror - someone voices her opinion from a socialist viewpoint.
What a traitor. Kill the *****.
Communism and socialism are destroyers of the world, like cancers on the
human race!
FFS - you rightards need to get a grip. Thought you used to be for
free speech.
She committed actual treason, giving aid and comfort to the enemy during
a time of war and getting out POW's treated more harshly, possibly even
killed, because of her actions. She's lowlife scum, like you.
Free speech means free speech - not just what the rightards 'approve'
of.
Oh you mean like when Republicans or Minutemen come to speak at
universities and get shouted down by you liberty loving marxists?
SWINE: Socialists Wildly Indignant About Nearly Everything.
As she said - 'if you understood what communism was' - clearly
you don't.
Oh but we DO. It enslaves, kills, loots and destroys. Go move to Cuba or
N Korea if you like it, scumbag! Dont let the door hit you on the way
out!
Most Americans seem to think the old Russia was
'socialist' - it was a state dictatorship - about as far right as it
is possible to get - just where you are heading right now.
Apologist.
There are plenty of examples of were socialism has worked - most of
the Scandinavian countries have socialist governments as does the UK.
To the extent that nations use it, they go down the crapper.
These countries consistently top the quality of life and economic
league tables - The US is currently around 22nd - and falling.
Moron. Who's keeping you here? Leave!
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IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR LIBERTARIANS, YOU'RE ONLY VOTING FOR YOUR
RULERS! If the government wasn't allowed to initiate force, the vote
wouldn't be that important. It's only important because they can.
Why is it that the liberals define things as slavery that aren’t
slavery, like voluntary mutually consenting employer-employee
relationships, while not defining things as slavery that are slavery,
like taxation?
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Jane Fonda: TRAITOR |
14 Oct 2006 12:55:21 AM |
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"I Ms Individual Rights" <I-MsIndividualRights@One.pqr> wrote in message
news:Xns985BC8BE72EA8IndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@westnet.com.au> wrote :
"I Ms Individual Rights" <I-MsIndividualRights@One.pqr> wrote in
message news:Xns985BBD934A93AIndividualRightsOner@216.196.97.142...
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of
some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was,
you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day
become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated
what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we
should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism."
- Jane Fonda, per the Washington Times July 7, 2000
Shock horror - someone voices her opinion from a socialist viewpoint.
What a traitor. Kill the *****.
Communism and socialism are destroyers of the world, like cancers on the
human race!
Greed, fear and hate are the destroyers.
You don't even know the meaning of the word 'socialism'.
FFS - you rightards need to get a grip. Thought you used to be for
free speech.
She committed actual treason, giving aid and comfort to the enemy during
a time of war and getting out POW's treated more harshly, possibly even
killed, because of her actions. She's lowlife scum, like you.
Free speech means free speech - not just what the rightards 'approve'
of.
Oh you mean like when Republicans or Minutemen come to speak at
universities and get shouted down by you liberty loving marxists?
I've never shouted anyone down in my life and don't condone others doing it.
By the way I *hate* Marxism. Just because I believe in the right to free
speech you rightards would brand me a 'Marxist'.
Such presumptious arrogance, but so typical of rightard freedom haters.
SWINE: Socialists Wildly Indignant About Nearly Everything.
As she said - 'if you understood what communism was' - clearly
you don't.
Oh but we DO. It enslaves, kills, loots and destroys. Go move to Cuba or
N Korea if you like it, scumbag! Dont let the door hit you on the way
out!
North Korea and Cuba are both state dictatorships - you don't have a clue
what socialism is.
Though it is clear that Cuba has a far better health service than the US
even under the dictatorship of that disgusting Castro.
They make good cigars too - pity you aren't allowed to iport them into the
US.
Most Americans seem to think the old Russia was
'socialist' - it was a state dictatorship - about as far right as it
is possible to get - just where you are heading right now.
Apologist.
What a mindless response - what is that supposed to mean?
Another word you don't know the meaning of.
Do you seriously deny that you are not headed in the same direction as the
old Soviet Union. How blind can you get.
No habeus corpus, imprisonment without trial or access to lawyers, anyone is
a 'suspect' if the 'president' says he is, not-so-secret CIA torture
centres, legalised torture of untried suspects, even getting your butt
kicked in Afghanistan LOL and on and on. That is very much like the old
Russia. So in what context are you calling me an 'apologist'.
There are plenty of examples of were socialism has worked - most of
the Scandinavian countries have socialist governments as does the UK.
To the extent that nations use it, they go down the crapper.
As I already pointed out - three of the top ten countries in the
international quality of life league table are socialist - the US doesn't
even get listed.
That's a simple verifiable fact - why deny it - why all the loathing and
hate.
The UK has had 8 years of steady growth under a high-tax high-welfare
socialist government and is now the fourth richest country in the world.
That's another simple verifiable fact.
In contrast, the US is already technically bankrupt and has to borrow 2
billion per day just to stay afloat. Don't be fooled by the temporary blip
in the share market back to Clinton levels - that's just the market
factoring in the democrat takeover of congress. Once your demented 'leader'
attacks Iran next month the slide will start in earnest.
These countries consistently top the quality of life and economic
league tables - The US is currently around 22nd - and falling.
Moron. Who's keeping you here? Leave!
Ah - the usual level of intelligent 'argument' from a rightard.
More presumptious arrogance from the brainless rightard.
I don't live in the US - and like most travellers these days I wouldn't even
take a connecting flight via the fear-crazed *****-hole until Bush and his
fellow criminals are behind bars or dead and some sort of democracy with
basic human rights has been restored.
But if I did live there - what right do you have to tell *anyone* to leave
because they don't share your hate-filled Bushworld. How *dare* you.
It's more important than ever that decent people *stay* in order to prevent
the slide into Russian-style dictatorship in their own once-free country.
It's *you* and your hate-filled rightards who should leave if you want to
live in a dicatorship - theres plenty for you to choose from.
By the way NK is not a socialist government - it is a personality-cult
dictatorship - you don't even know the meaning of the word socialism as you
so clearly demonstrate.
Why do you rightards hate freedom so much.
A W-S
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