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Jessica Lynch spills the beans on Bush's Pentagon. |
What Jessica says about her Iraqi captors/caretakers:
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
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Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her Ordeal
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 7, 2003
In her first public statements since her rescue in Iraq, Jessica Lynch
criticized the military for exaggerating accounts of her rescue and
re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable.
Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the military's portrayal of the
rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: "Yeah, it does. It does that they used
me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. Yeah, it's wrong," according to a
partial transcript of the interview to be broadcast on Tuesday.
After months of retreating from the news media, Ms. Lynch will be a
ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to her appearance on ABC, she
will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC will broadcast a movie based
on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On Tuesday, the book publisher Knopf
will release an account of her experience, "I Am a Soldier, Too," written
with her cooperation by a former reporter for The New York Times, Rick
Bragg.
The book and the movie are unrelated and tell different versions of Ms.
Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the book to capitalize on
publicity from the television movie.
The book has already added another, lurid indignity to the public accounts
of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's military doctors found injuries
consistent with sexual assault and unlikely to have resulted from the Humvee
crash that caused her other wounds, suggesting that she was raped after her
capture. Ms. Lynch, who was unconscious immediately after the crash, does
not remember any such assault, according to people who have talked to her
and read the book. Those details of the book's contents were reported
yesterday in The New York Daily News.
In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says others' accounts of her
heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed because of what she says was
overstatement.
At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told journalists that American
soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during the rescue, without adding
that resistance was minimal. Then the military released a dramatic,
green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. Soon news organizations
were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous American officials, that Ms.
Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, emptying her weapon at her
attackers.
But subsequent investigations determined that Ms. Lynch was injured by the
crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before she could fire, the Iraqi
doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was already in friendly hands
when her rescuers arrived.
Asked how she felt about the reports of her heroism, Ms. Lynch told Ms.
Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no
truth about. Only I would have been able to know that, because the other
four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell the story. So I would have
been the only one able to say, yeah, I went down shooting. But I didn't."
And asked about reports that the military exaggerated the danger of the
rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't think it happened quite like
that," although she added that in that context anybody would have approached
the hospital well-armed. She continued: "I don't know why they filmed it, or
why they say the things they, you know, all I know was that I was in that
hospital hurting. I needed help."
Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Defense, declined
to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he said, "Essentially, the mission to
rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated America's resolve to account for all of
its missing service members." He added that the rescue had been conducted
under the appropriate procedures for a fluid situation like the war in Iraq.
"You always plan for the worst."
Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, the Iraqi
lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her.
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
Jeff Coplon, who helped Mr. Rehaief write his book, "Because Each Life is
Precious," said it was possible that both he and Ms. Lynch were telling the
truth in their divergent accounts.
"One of the questions that could arise in the wake of this kind of trauma is
that someone could believe they remember everything and their memory could
still be incomplete," Mr. Coplon said.
http://www.military.com/News/Home/0,13324,4-XX-0-DAYX20031107,00.html
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A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
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08 Nov 2003 03:59:52 AM |
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"Tom Jefferson" <tomj@democracy.org> wrote in message
news:3fac8807$0$91691$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com...
What Jessica says about her Iraqi captors/caretakers:
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so
thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
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Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her Ordeal
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 7, 2003
In her first public statements since her rescue in Iraq, Jessica Lynch
criticized the military for exaggerating accounts of her rescue and
re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable.
Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the military's portrayal of
the
rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: "Yeah, it does. It does that they
used
me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. Yeah, it's wrong," according to a
partial transcript of the interview to be broadcast on Tuesday.
After months of retreating from the news media, Ms. Lynch will be a
ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to her appearance on ABC, she
will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC will broadcast a movie
based
on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On Tuesday, the book publisher Knopf
will release an account of her experience, "I Am a Soldier, Too," written
with her cooperation by a former reporter for The New York Times, Rick
Bragg.
The book and the movie are unrelated and tell different versions of Ms.
Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the book to capitalize on
publicity from the television movie.
The book has already added another, lurid indignity to the public accounts
of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's military doctors found
injuries
consistent with sexual assault and unlikely to have resulted from the
Humvee
crash that caused her other wounds, suggesting that she was raped after
her
capture. Ms. Lynch, who was unconscious immediately after the crash, does
not remember any such assault, according to people who have talked to her
and read the book. Those details of the book's contents were reported
yesterday in The New York Daily News.
In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says others' accounts of her
heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed because of what she says
was
overstatement.
At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told journalists that American
soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during the rescue, without adding
that resistance was minimal. Then the military released a dramatic,
green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. Soon news organizations
were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous American officials, that
Ms.
Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, emptying her weapon at her
attackers.
But subsequent investigations determined that Ms. Lynch was injured by the
crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before she could fire, the Iraqi
doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was already in friendly hands
when her rescuers arrived.
Asked how she felt about the reports of her heroism, Ms. Lynch told Ms.
Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had
no
truth about. Only I would have been able to know that, because the other
four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell the story. So I would have
been the only one able to say, yeah, I went down shooting. But I didn't."
And asked about reports that the military exaggerated the danger of the
rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't think it happened quite
like
that," although she added that in that context anybody would have
approached
the hospital well-armed. She continued: "I don't know why they filmed it,
or
why they say the things they, you know, all I know was that I was in that
hospital hurting. I needed help."
Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Defense,
declined
to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he said, "Essentially, the mission to
rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated America's resolve to account for all of
its missing service members." He added that the rescue had been conducted
under the appropriate procedures for a fluid situation like the war in
Iraq.
"You always plan for the worst."
Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, the Iraqi
lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her.
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so
thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
Jeff Coplon, who helped Mr. Rehaief write his book, "Because Each Life is
Precious," said it was possible that both he and Ms. Lynch were telling
the
truth in their divergent accounts.
"One of the questions that could arise in the wake of this kind of trauma
is
that someone could believe they remember everything and their memory could
still be incomplete," Mr. Coplon said.
http://www.military.com/News/Home/0,13324,4-XX-0-DAYX20031107,00.html
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A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
Didn't the cold heartless, lying Bush scum have any regard for Jessica's
family when they fabricated these horror stories about the rape and
molestation ?
This really shows what we're dealing with here.
HH
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| User: "steve" |
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08 Nov 2003 04:24:13 AM |
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Hattori Hanzo allegedly said:
Didn't the cold heartless, lying Bush scum have any regard for Jessica's
family when they fabricated these horror stories about the rape and
molestation ?
This really shows what we're dealing with here.
Yes it does.
We knew Bush was scum.....what we didn't know was how low he would go.
376 dead Americans in Iraq in an illegal war justified by his obvious
lies.....and we now have some idea.
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defenestrate: The act of throwing Windows out the window and replacing it on
your PC with some other operating system.
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| User: "Zoso" |
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08 Nov 2003 12:18:51 AM |
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Jessica Lynch is a hero. Not everyone is brave enough
to tell the truth.
But from the word go, the republicans made up lie after
lie about this story for political gain. Once again they
got caught telling lies about Iraq. I have to wonder if
any republican has the ability to tell the truth any more?
I doubt it.
"Tom Jefferson" <tomj@democracy.org> wrote in message
news:3fac8807$0$91691$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com...
What Jessica says about her Iraqi captors/caretakers:
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so
thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jessica Lynch Criticizes U.S. Accounts of Her Ordeal
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 7, 2003
In her first public statements since her rescue in Iraq, Jessica Lynch
criticized the military for exaggerating accounts of her rescue and
re-casting her ordeal as a patriotic fable.
Asked by the ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer if the military's portrayal of
the
rescue bothered her, Ms. Lynch said: "Yeah, it does. It does that they
used
me as a way to symbolize all this stuff. Yeah, it's wrong," according to a
partial transcript of the interview to be broadcast on Tuesday.
After months of retreating from the news media, Ms. Lynch will be a
ubiquitous presence next week. In addition to her appearance on ABC, she
will be on the cover of Time magazine, and NBC will broadcast a movie
based
on an Iraqi's account of her ordeal. On Tuesday, the book publisher Knopf
will release an account of her experience, "I Am a Soldier, Too," written
with her cooperation by a former reporter for The New York Times, Rick
Bragg.
The book and the movie are unrelated and tell different versions of Ms.
Lynch's story, but the publisher has timed the book to capitalize on
publicity from the television movie.
The book has already added another, lurid indignity to the public accounts
of her capture. It reports that Ms. Lynch's military doctors found
injuries
consistent with sexual assault and unlikely to have resulted from the
Humvee
crash that caused her other wounds, suggesting that she was raped after
her
capture. Ms. Lynch, who was unconscious immediately after the crash, does
not remember any such assault, according to people who have talked to her
and read the book. Those details of the book's contents were reported
yesterday in The New York Daily News.
In the book and in the interviews, Ms. Lynch says others' accounts of her
heroism often left her feeling hurt and ashamed because of what she says
was
overstatement.
At first, a military spokesman in Iraq told journalists that American
soldiers had exchanged fire with Iraqis during the rescue, without adding
that resistance was minimal. Then the military released a dramatic,
green-tinted, night-vision video of the mission. Soon news organizations
were repeating reports, attributed to anonymous American officials, that
Ms.
Lynch had heroically resisted her capture, emptying her weapon at her
attackers.
But subsequent investigations determined that Ms. Lynch was injured by the
crash of her vehicle, her weapon jammed before she could fire, the Iraqi
doctors treated her kindly, and the hospital was already in friendly hands
when her rescuers arrived.
Asked how she felt about the reports of her heroism, Ms. Lynch told Ms.
Sawyer, "It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had
no
truth about. Only I would have been able to know that, because the other
four people on my vehicle aren't here to tell the story. So I would have
been the only one able to say, yeah, I went down shooting. But I didn't."
And asked about reports that the military exaggerated the danger of the
rescue mission, Ms. Lynch said, "Yeah, I don't think it happened quite
like
that," although she added that in that context anybody would have
approached
the hospital well-armed. She continued: "I don't know why they filmed it,
or
why they say the things they, you know, all I know was that I was in that
hospital hurting. I needed help."
Lt. Col. Rivers Johnson, a spokesman for the Department of Defense,
declined
to comment on Ms. Lynch's views. But he said, "Essentially, the mission to
rescue Jessica Lynch demonstrated America's resolve to account for all of
its missing service members." He added that the rescue had been conducted
under the appropriate procedures for a fluid situation like the war in
Iraq.
"You always plan for the worst."
Ms. Lynch also disputed statements by Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief, the Iraqi
lawyer, that he saw her captors slap her.
"From the time I woke up in that hospital, no one beat me, no one slapped
me, no one, nothing," Ms. Lynch told Diane Sawyer, adding, "I'm so
thankful
for those people, because that's why I'm alive today."
Jeff Coplon, who helped Mr. Rehaief write his book, "Because Each Life is
Precious," said it was possible that both he and Ms. Lynch were telling
the
truth in their divergent accounts.
"One of the questions that could arise in the wake of this kind of trauma
is
that someone could believe they remember everything and their memory could
still be incomplete," Mr. Coplon said.
http://www.military.com/News/Home/0,13324,4-XX-0-DAYX20031107,00.html
--
A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
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08 Nov 2003 07:07:41 AM |
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:18:51 -0700, "Zoso" <iamzoso@cox.net> wrote:
Jessica Lynch is a hero. Not everyone is brave enough
to tell the truth.
Well, by God, she is one now ... you're right, it took guts for her
stand up and tell the truth, when self-serving lies seem to be
preferred to truth and honor these days.
There are a lot of people, here at home, still willing to let our
young men and women suffer and die because THEY don't have the courage
to admit that there's something wrong with a White House that tells a
lie when the truth will do and has opened its door to a new level
corruption and corporate influence.
The "legendary" Jessica Lynch is a perfect example of that ... our
military forces are full of brave heroes ... it was a slap in their
faces to make one up. But the real Jessica Lynch is a lot more like
the real heroes she left behind ... the heroes that deserve a lot
better than the series of lies this Administration has presented as
"cause" for their sacrifices.
I was incensed when I first heard that Private Lynch stood to profit
from all the hype about her rescue ... now I hope she does take their
money, and their medals ... but refused to tell their lies. She'll be
my hero if she does!
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| User: "Michel" |
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08 Nov 2003 10:05:42 AM |
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Charles Aulds wrote:
The "legendary" Jessica Lynch is a perfect example of that ... our
military forces are full of brave heroes ... it was a slap in their
faces to make one up. But the real Jessica Lynch is a lot more like
the real heroes she left behind ... the heroes that deserve a lot
better than the series of lies this Administration has presented as
"cause" for their sacrifices.
Bloodthirsty storm-troopers sent to a weak and miserable country to
subjugate and steal in the name of Empire by a corrupt, evil, coup
d'etat junta, you call heroes????
I call them scumbag motherfuckers and wish on them all the fire and
brimstone the Iraqis can muster.
For one like you, Charles, who seem to have gotten the message and read
through the lies, how many millions in the US still believe our golden
boys are on a mission of love and democracy, to better the lives of the
heathens??
The only language Joe Six-pack understands is the sepulchral silence of
hundreds of dead GIs in metal coffins, draped in the flag, on some
military base somewhere in Delaware.
The Iraqis are helping Joe get the message.
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| User: "PagCal" |
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08 Nov 2003 06:25:43 AM |
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The real 'Jessica Lynch' story has been out on the
internet for quite some time, so her statements (the truth)
should not come as a surprise to anyone.
The mainstream American (corporate) press lost credibility
over it.
I would think they'd realize, that will all the
news outlets available to Americans, they can't get away
with blatant lies, but they keep at it.
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| User: "Ted Hart" |
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08 Nov 2003 06:45:47 AM |
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PagCal wrote:
The real 'Jessica Lynch' story has been out on the
internet for quite some time, so her statements (the truth)
should not come as a surprise to anyone.
The mainstream American (corporate) press lost credibility
over it.
I would think they'd realize, that will all the
news outlets available to Americans, they can't get away
with blatant lies, but they keep at it.
Should the press be blamed? Or this administration, or the military?
Maybe all?
Where in your opinion did these lies originate? Just curious.
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