As an officer, it was his

duty to prevent lower-ranking personnel from violating the Hague and
Geneva Conventions.

True and it is ***** that he was in the villages. He was just flapping

lips in 1971.

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote:

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

From MSNBC, 5/1/04:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4879709/
ST. LOUIS -
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, a decorated Navy
lieutenant who later protested the Vietnam War

and confessed to committing war crimes in the process of defaming his
fellow Vietnam vets with similar accusations
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/warcrim.html

Do you honestly think that these war crime atrocities didn't happen?

I'm sure that some did. Since Kerry is so intimately familiar with them,
we really do have to ask what his role was. As an officer, it was his
duty to prevent lower-ranking personnel from violating the Hague and
Geneva Conventions.

I'm sure that _more_ did than President Kerry (get used to saying it)
has previously alluded to. And yes, he needs to describe everything
he remembers so that he and his fellow war criminals can be tried for
their crimes.

Kerry and his fellow Vietnam buddies _do_ need to be tried and
convicted for their part in the United State's war crime atrocities
around the world, no doubt about it.
And Bush needs to be tried and convicted for his.

But as Kerry and his friends keep saying, Bush really WASN'T there!

Bush's war crime atrocities in Afghanistan and Iraq, you fucking moron.

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote:

Fredric L. Rice wrote:

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

From MSNBC, 5/1/04:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4879709/
ST. LOUIS -
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, a decorated Navy
lieutenant who later protested the Vietnam War

and confessed to committing war crimes in the process of defaming his
fellow Vietnam vets with similar accusations
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/warcrim.html

Do you honestly think that these war crime atrocities didn't happen?

I'm sure that some did. Since Kerry is so intimately familiar with them,
we really do have to ask what his role was. As an officer, it was his
duty to prevent lower-ranking personnel from violating the Hague and
Geneva Conventions.

I'm sure that _more_ did than President Kerry (get used to saying it)
has previously alluded to. And yes, he needs to describe everything
he remembers so that he and his fellow war criminals can be tried for
their crimes.

Kerry and his fellow Vietnam buddies _do_ need to be tried and
convicted for their part in the United State's war crime atrocities
around the world, no doubt about it.
And Bush needs to be tried and convicted for his.

But as Kerry and his friends keep saying, Bush really WASN'T there!

Bush's war crime atrocities in Afghanistan and Iraq, you fucking moron.

Subject: Re: John Calley, I mean Kerry Re: John Kerry meets with veterans
From: Bill Levinson

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:Fhdlc.2060$a47.1181@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

Tempest wrote:

Bill Levinson wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

From MSNBC, 5/1/04:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4879709/

ST. LOUIS -
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, a decorated Navy
lieutenant who later protested the Vietnam War

and confessed to committing war crimes in the process of defaming
his fellow Vietnam vets with similar accusations
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/warcrim.html

This is a lie.

Kerry was repeating stories told by other soldiers during the Winter
Soldier investigation.

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=of
f&c2coff=1&as_qdr=all&q=Kerry+%22I+committed+the+same+kind+of+atrocitie
s%22&btnG=Search CNN.com is the first source for this quote, in which
Kerry says "yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities..."

He was not accusing anyone of anything.


BTW, why doesn't the site you provided have any contact information?

http://www.stentorian.com/, see the .gif image at the bottom for the
contact E-mail.

A loon who doesn't want the world to know his mental illness history?

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=of
f&c2coff=1&as_qdr=all&q=Kerry+%22I+committed+the+same+kind+of+atrocitie
s%22&btnG=Search Sorry, you lose. Thanks for playing, try again.

--Bill

So did just about every soldier in Vietnam. We used 'nails' rockets on
personel that were supposed to be used for equipment. We used 'Willy
Pete' on personnel. We had free fire zones that were used to test fire
weapons and were occupied by farmers. We were not briefed or educated in
what was permitted or not permitted. All I remember is a single program
text on the Geneva Convention and most of that had to do with prisoner
status.

Geneva Convention - about the use of Incendary devices like WP

Article 2

Protection of civilians and civilian objects
1.It is prohibited in all circumstances to make the civilian population
as such, individual
civilians or civilian objects the object of attack by incendiary weapons.
2. It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective
located within a concentration
of civilians the object of attack by air-delivered incendiary weapons.
3. It is further prohibited to make any military objective located within
a concentration of

About Agent Orange - from Geneva Convention - damage to natural
environment. Wonder how many Vietnamese civilians are getting cancer from
this stuff

The High Contracting Parties,
Recalling that every State has the duty, in conformity with the Charter
of the United Nations,
to refrain in its international relations from the threat or use of force
against the sovereignty,
territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any
other manner inconsistent
with the purposes of the United Nations.
Further recalling the general principle of the protection of the civilian
population against the
effects of hostilities,
Basing themselves on the principle of international law that the right of
the parties to an
armed conflict to choose methods or means of warfare is not unlimited,
and on the principle
that prohibits the employment in armed conflicts of weapons, projectiles
and material and
methods of warfare of a nature to cause superfluous injury or unnecessary
suffering,
Also recalling that it is prohibited to employ methods or means of
warfare which are intended,
or may be expected, to cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to
the natural
environment.

Anyway, Billy the war was wrong, the war killed 50,000 young Americans,
the war (along with Watergate) ruined the trust that the American people
held in their Government for all time. The war was fought by young
Americans and stopped by Young Americans. Bush and Cheney participated in
neither the fighting of the war or the protesting of the war. They
deserve no respect and some condemnation for their inaction.

John Kerry on the other hand deserves respect for his service as a
decorated vietnam vet and as a protestor that helped stop the senseless
deaths of young Americans for a bankrupt cause. The best decision I made
was to stay in the military after Vietnam. It helped ease the pain being
with like souls. Folks like you on the other hand seem to spend your
whole life trying to get some form of closure from your foolish views on
the war and the folks that protested it. The fact is that the war is over
and that is a very good thing. It eneded not because our government chose
to end it. It ended because the American people ended it. Americans like
Kerry.

I respect his valor in Vietnam and I respect his service to all in
uniform and all the future draftees by helping to end it through the use
of peaceful protest.

You folks seem to see a dichotomy here, when, in fact, both actions were
the actions of a patriot.

Bill Levinson <wlevinson@NOSPAM.stentorian.com> wrote in
news:Fhdlc.2060$a47.1181@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:

Tempest wrote:

Bill Levinson wrote:

Harry Hope wrote:

From MSNBC, 5/1/04:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4879709/

ST. LOUIS -
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, a decorated Navy
lieutenant who later protested the Vietnam War

and confessed to committing war crimes in the process of defaming
his fellow Vietnam vets with similar accusations
http://www.stentorian.com/politics/warcrim.html

This is a lie.

Kerry was repeating stories told by other soldiers during the Winter
Soldier investigation.

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=of
f&c2coff=1&as_qdr=all&q=Kerry+%22I+committed+the+same+kind+of+atrocitie
s%22&btnG=Search CNN.com is the first source for this quote, in which
Kerry says "yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities..."

He was not accusing anyone of anything.


BTW, why doesn't the site you provided have any contact information?

http://www.stentorian.com/, see the .gif image at the bottom for the
contact E-mail.

A loon who doesn't want the world to know his mental illness history?

http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=of
f&c2coff=1&as_qdr=all&q=Kerry+%22I+committed+the+same+kind+of+atrocitie
s%22&btnG=Search Sorry, you lose. Thanks for playing, try again.

--Bill

So did just about every soldier in Vietnam. We used 'nails' rockets on
personel that were supposed to be used for equipment. We used 'Willy
Pete' on personnel. We had free fire zones that were used to test fire
weapons and were occupied by farmers. We were not briefed or educated in
what was permitted or not permitted. All I remember is a single program
text on the Geneva Convention and most of that had to do with prisoner
status.

Anyway, Billy the war was wrong, the war killed 50,000 young Americans,
the war (along with Watergate) ruined the trust that the American people
held in their Government for all time. The war was fought by young
Americans and stopped by Young Americans. Bush and Cheney participated in
neither the fighting of the war or the protesting of the war. They
deserve no respect and some condemnation for their inaction.

John Kerry on the other hand deserves respect for his service as a
decorated vietnam vet

and as a protestor that helped stop the senseless
deaths of young Americans for a bankrupt cause.

The best decision I made
was to stay in the military after Vietnam. It helped ease the pain being
with like souls. Folks like you on the other hand seem to spend your
whole life trying to get some form of closure from your foolish views on
the war and the folks that protested it. The fact is that the war is over
and that is a very good thing. It eneded not because our government chose
to end it. It ended because the American people ended it. Americans like
Kerry.

I respect his valor in Vietnam and I respect his service to all in
uniform and all the future draftees by helping to end it through the use
of peaceful protest.

You folks seem to see a dichotomy here, when, in fact, both actions were
the actions of a patriot.