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"Harry Hope" |
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09 Oct 2004 10:22:11 AM |
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John Kerry restores his lead heading into the last month |
From Zogby, 10/8/04:
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=879
Fresh off one of the highest points of his campaign -- a superior
performance in the first head-to-head debate against President Bush --
Democratic challenger John Kerry not only stopped the slow leak of
support for his campaign, but added back some air to the inner tube
keeping afloat his run for the White House.
As a result, he remains on top in a still-tight race that shows every
indication it may be every bit as close as 2000, with support for Mr.
Bush and Mr. Kerry teetering within a very slim margin.
Mr. Kerry now leads in the race for Electoral College votes and can
now see a path to victory, but it’s still far from his grasp.
Needing 270 votes to become the next President, he has coddled
together a lead in states that total 278, compared to just 207 for Mr.
Bush, the latest collection of polls by Zogby Interactive shows.
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Harry
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| User: "The_Great_NeoCon" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry restores his lead heading into the last month |
09 Oct 2004 10:25:22 AM |
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Hopeless, I thought you'd be smarter than to post a poll take *before* the
2nd debate.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:jg0gm09hoffac8745i96smcshptqf3t9om@4ax.com...
From Zogby, 10/8/04:
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=879
Fresh off one of the highest points of his campaign -- a superior
performance in the first head-to-head debate against President Bush --
Democratic challenger John Kerry not only stopped the slow leak of
support for his campaign, but added back some air to the inner tube
keeping afloat his run for the White House.
As a result, he remains on top in a still-tight race that shows every
indication it may be every bit as close as 2000, with support for Mr.
Bush and Mr. Kerry teetering within a very slim margin.
Mr. Kerry now leads in the race for Electoral College votes and can
now see a path to victory, but it's still far from his grasp.
Needing 270 votes to become the next President, he has coddled
together a lead in states that total 278, compared to just 207 for Mr.
Bush, the latest collection of polls by Zogby Interactive shows.
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Harry
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry restores his lead heading into the last month |
09 Oct 2004 12:08:21 PM |
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"The_Great_NeoCon" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FpT9d.7116$Lo6.2953@fed1read03...
Hopeless, I thought you'd be smarter than to post a poll take *before* the
2nd debate.
Well, considering that the gerneal consensus is th\at Kerry won the second
debate - evven among many conservative pundits - Kerry's numbers will only
go up.
Mort Kondracke: ". I think Kerry won this debate as he won the first debate
I don't think. I thought that Kerry was much more aggressive and the
president was basically on the defense and didn't have new arguments didn't
have.wasn't as facile as he should have been." [Fox News Channel, 10/8/04]
Bill Kristol: "I guess I think if you think the President was doing okay and
didn't need a win in this debate, he did fine, but I think, if one thinks
that Bush missed an awful lot of opportunities to go after Kerry in the
first debate he had to make some of them up in this debate, I'm not sure he
really succeeded in doing so." [Fox New Channel, 10/8/04]
Brit Hume: "Is it now fair to say that in each of these debates in terms of
marshaling arguments, and remembering them and presenting them that this is
something John Kerry has proved he is very good at. And that it doesn't play
to the president's strong suit." [Fox News Channel, 10/8/04]
Mort Kondracke: "I thought [Kerry] was very effective. I thought that he was
also on the attack a lot and frankly I thought that the President seemed to
be on the defense a lot and trying to explain things and not explaining them
all that well." [Fox News Channel, 10/8/04]
Tim Russert: "John Kerry, also, energetic, forceful." [NBC, 10/8/04]
"On the question of whether Bush did everything he needed to tonight, I
don't think so. I think he helped himself, but Kerry leaves these debates
energized." [Jonah Goldberg, National Review Online, 10/8/04]
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:jg0gm09hoffac8745i96smcshptqf3t9om@4ax.com...
From Zogby, 10/8/04:
http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=879
Fresh off one of the highest points of his campaign -- a superior
performance in the first head-to-head debate against President Bush --
Democratic challenger John Kerry not only stopped the slow leak of
support for his campaign, but added back some air to the inner tube
keeping afloat his run for the White House.
As a result, he remains on top in a still-tight race that shows every
indication it may be every bit as close as 2000, with support for Mr.
Bush and Mr. Kerry teetering within a very slim margin.
Mr. Kerry now leads in the race for Electoral College votes and can
now see a path to victory, but it's still far from his grasp.
Needing 270 votes to become the next President, he has coddled
together a lead in states that total 278, compared to just 207 for Mr.
Bush, the latest collection of polls by Zogby Interactive shows.
________________________________________________________
Harry
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| User: "John Forged Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: John Kerry restores his lead heading into the last month |
09 Oct 2004 12:16:47 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
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"The_Great_NeoCon" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hopeless, I thought you'd be smarter than to post a poll take *before*
the
2nd debate.
Well, considering that the gerneal consensus is th\at Kerry won the second
debate - evven among many conservative pundits - Kerry's numbers will only
go up.
They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
ST. LOUIS, Missouri (CNN) -- If the election were held today, Bush likely
would win 301 electoral votes to Kerry's 237, according to a new CNN survey
based on state polling as well as interviews with campaign aides and
independent analysts. A candidate wins
the election with at least 270 electoral votes, regardless of the popular
vote.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/08/electoral.map/index.html
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| User: "BG" |
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09 Oct 2004 12:27:18 PM |
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They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
No thinking about it - from the gut - a mighty hoorah. Bush kicked ***** when
he stood and pointed at Kerry and looked at the audience and told them
Senator Kerry could run, but he couldn't hide from his 20 year record of
liberal votes in the Senate.
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| User: "Gorely" |
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09 Oct 2004 01:09:14 PM |
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"BG" <mdpine@no_bright_spam.net> wrote in message
news:5LednUfN2M3ygvXcRVn-rg@bright.net...
They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
No thinking about it - from the gut - a mighty hoorah. Bush kicked *****
when
he stood and pointed at Kerry and looked at the audience and told them
Senator Kerry could run, but he couldn't hide from his 20 year record of
liberal votes in the Senate.
it just goes to show that the left cannot win in a open debate forum. the
first debate with its obviously biased questions (and statements by the
host) was completely rigged with kerry being more than prepared on every
question.
last nights debate revealed kerry to be inept and unable to misdirect the
audience from his liberal slant. you see it takes alot to rehearse
statements designed to dodge tough issues and last night proves kerry cannot
think on his feet and cannot perform under pressure.
bush won and the mainstream media won't print it. they will say it was a
draw which we all know mean kerry got his ***** kicked. we also know that when
the left slanted media says kerry won, or edwards won but it was close, then
it was probably a draw.
ask a lib if the media is biased and watch the blank stare take over his
face. it is really funny.
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| User: "Bees Nest" |
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09 Oct 2004 03:38:05 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 11:09:14 -0700, "Gorely" <Gorely@yahoo.com> wrote:
"BG" <mdpine@no_bright_spam.net> wrote in message
news:5LednUfN2M3ygvXcRVn-rg@bright.net...
They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
No thinking about it - from the gut - a mighty hoorah. Bush kicked *****
when
he stood and pointed at Kerry and looked at the audience and told them
Senator Kerry could run, but he couldn't hide from his 20 year record of
liberal votes in the Senate.
it just goes to show that the left cannot win in a open debate forum. the
first debate with its obviously biased questions (and statements by the
host) was completely rigged with kerry being more than prepared on every
question.
Want some WHINE with your cheeseburger?
The paid posters are working overtime. Oops, forgot,
Bush got rid of overtime for minimum wage earners.
Go Bush!
Go Diebold!
Rig those voting machines in Bushes Favor!
Let keep some Bush in the White House forever!
Lord knows he can't win on his own!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so simple even DUHbya could rig it, see for
yourself.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/baxter/VNR92204.mov
Proof?
Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell has bundled $100,000 or more
in contributions for George W. Bush. O'Dell and his
wife have given $19,965 to GOP candidates and campaign
entities, nothing to Democrats. A letter was revealed
in which he said he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver
its electoral votes to the President"in November.
Where there is smoke there is fire!
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=voting+machines+owned+by+republicans&btnG=Search
I'll stop posting this when they install printers for these machines.
liberals suck but conservatives swallow.
Republicans whine and Republicans *****:
"Our rich are too poor, and our poor are too rich"
"The unaware are unaware that they are unaware."
Merril M.E. Jenkins Sr
"How fortunate for governments that the people they
administer don't think." Adolf Hitler
"The next time they give you all that civic *****
about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in
a full, free democratic election" George Carlin
"God told me to strike at al-Qaeda and I struck them,
and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which
I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem
in the Middle East." George W Bush
last nights debate revealed kerry to be inept and unable to misdirect the
audience from his liberal slant. you see it takes alot to rehearse
statements designed to dodge tough issues and last night proves kerry cannot
think on his feet and cannot perform under pressure.
bush won and the mainstream media won't print it. they will say it was a
draw which we all know mean kerry got his ***** kicked. we also know that when
the left slanted media says kerry won, or edwards won but it was close, then
it was probably a draw.
ask a lib if the media is biased and watch the blank stare take over his
face. it is really funny.
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| User: "John Forged Kerry" |
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09 Oct 2004 12:33:04 PM |
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"BG" <mdpine@no_bright_spam.net> wrote in message
news:5LednUfN2M3ygvXcRVn-rg@bright.net...
They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
No thinking about it - from the gut - a mighty hoorah. Bush kicked *****
when
he stood and pointed at Kerry and looked at the audience and told them
Senator Kerry could run, but he couldn't hide from his 20 year record of
liberal votes in the Senate.
I agree. Kerry was used as a floor mop by President Bush last night. Kerry
is probably still dazed and seeing stars after the beating Bush gave him.
Kerry was also rocked back on his heels when an attractive young woman in
the audience NAILED HIM with her abortion question. Bush has the young
women of America on his side. Kerry only has the dried-up prunebitches of
the NOW gang siding with him, which isn't enough to allow Kerry to win.
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| User: "Chris S." |
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09 Oct 2004 06:04:44 PM |
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John Forged Kerry wrote:
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
Well, considering that the gerneal consensus is th\at Kerry won the second
debate - evven among many conservative pundits - Kerry's numbers will only
go up.
They need to go WAY up, because Kerry was WAY down even AFTER the first
debate, which some think Kerry won. Besides, most think Kerry lost the
second debate, and feel that President Bush basically cleaned his clock.
I seem to remember the numbers being even after the first debate, Kerry
having "closed the gap" so to speak. But you're right, both sides need
gain at least 10-15% before they can begin to feel safe.
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| User: "Sparky" |
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09 Oct 2004 11:42:30 PM |
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Larry Hewitt wrote:
"The_Great_NeoCon" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FpT9d.7116$Lo6.2953@fed1read03...
Hopeless, I thought you'd be smarter than to post a poll take *before* the
2nd debate.
Well, considering that the gerneal consensus is th\at Kerry won the second
debate - evven among many conservative pundits - Kerry's numbers will only
go up.
Mort Kondracke: ". I think Kerry won this debate as he won the first debate
I don't think. I thought that Kerry was much more aggressive and the
president was basically on the defense and didn't have new arguments didn't
have.wasn't as facile as he should have been." [Fox News Channel, 10/8/04]
Bill Kristol: "I guess I think if you think the President was doing okay and
didn't need a win in this debate, he did fine, but I think, if one thinks
that Bush missed an awful lot of opportunities to go after Kerry in the
first debate he had to make some of them up in this debate, I'm not sure he
really succeeded in doing so." [Fox New Channel, 10/8/04]
Brit Hume: "Is it now fair to say that in each of these debates in terms of
marshaling arguments, and remembering them and presenting them that this is
something John Kerry has proved he is very good at. And that it doesn't play
to the president's strong suit." [Fox News Channel, 10/8/04]
What, exactly, *is* Bush's strong suit? Wearing cowboy boots & signing
death warrants?
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| User: "Tom S" |
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09 Oct 2004 11:14:21 AM |
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Yeah, it'll be even more exciting to see Kerry extend his lead in the polls
taken *after* the debate.
Hopeless, I thought you'd be smarter than to post a poll take *before* the
2nd debate.
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