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08 Jun 2007 03:31:11 PM |
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JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY..............The Judge runs the
Courtroom and the Sheriff runs the Jail............The Judge can
Decree whatever Sentence he wants, but the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to
Determine how long he wants someone kept in His Jail............If
the
Judge can charge the Sheriff with "Contempt of Court", then the
Sheriff can have the Judge ARRESTED for INTERFERING with the
Police............Such as it is in the American Justice System run by
Petty Bureaucrats DRUNK with POWER...........Ain't it a
HOOT?............
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| User: "" |
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| Title: No, it's not funny |
08 Jun 2007 03:56:33 PM |
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On Jun 8, 4:31 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY.Ain't it a HOOT?............
Actually, it's not funny at all. Indeed, for you to laugh at the
problems of the criminal justice system is an insult to victims of
crime and in incredibly bad taste. But then again, you find it a big
joke that our soldiers are dying overseas for our country.
Celebrity worship aside, perhaps this situation may shed some light on
the hellhole our nation's jails and prisons have become. County jails
are particularly bad.
In an article on MSNBC, they reported how Arizona locks up sick people
(innocent of any crime and under health quarantine) in conditions
worse than given to serial murderers in supermax prisons. No
necessary medical treatment provided. No exercise or fresh air or
sunlight, critical for health reasons. No chance to appeal, no legal
rights.
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| User: "Bill Bonde Hi ho " |
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| Title: Re: No, it's not funny |
08 Jun 2007 06:41:31 PM |
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wrote:
On Jun 8, 4:31 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY.Ain't it a HOOT?............
Actually, it's not funny at all. Indeed, for you to laugh at the
problems of the criminal justice system is an insult to victims of
crime and in incredibly bad taste. But then again, you find it a big
joke that our soldiers are dying overseas for our country.
Celebrity worship aside, perhaps this situation may shed some light on
the hellhole our nation's jails and prisons have become. County jails
are particularly bad.
In an article on MSNBC, they reported how Arizona locks up sick people
(innocent of any crime and under health quarantine) in conditions
worse than given to serial murderers in supermax prisons. No
necessary medical treatment provided. No exercise or fresh air or
sunlight, critical for health reasons. No chance to appeal, no legal
rights.
What sick people are being locked up for being sick? They only example
I've heard of is that guy who flew to Europe and all over the place with
untreatable TB.
--
"There are some gals who don't like to be pushed and grabbed and lassoed
and drug into buses in the middle of the night."
"How else was I gonna get her on the bus? Well, I'm askin' ya.",
George Axelrod, "Bus Stop"
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| User: "Scottsdale Guy" |
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| Title: Re: No, it's not funny |
08 Jun 2007 07:06:57 PM |
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"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4669E92B.7FB1564B@yahoo.co.uk...
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Jun 8, 4:31 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY.Ain't it a HOOT?............
Actually, it's not funny at all. Indeed, for you to laugh at the
problems of the criminal justice system is an insult to victims of
crime and in incredibly bad taste. But then again, you find it a big
joke that our soldiers are dying overseas for our country.
Celebrity worship aside, perhaps this situation may shed some light on
the hellhole our nation's jails and prisons have become. County jails
are particularly bad.
In an article on MSNBC, they reported how Arizona locks up sick people
(innocent of any crime and under health quarantine) in conditions
worse than given to serial murderers in supermax prisons. No
necessary medical treatment provided. No exercise or fresh air or
sunlight, critical for health reasons. No chance to appeal, no legal
rights.
What sick people are being locked up for being sick? They only example
I've heard of is that guy who flew to Europe and all over the place with
untreatable TB.
Our wonderful shitbag sherriff Joe Arpaio has a guy locked up here in PHX
somewhere for having TB. He wasn't allowed to have TV or phone or anything
until recently IIRC
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0530tbbills0531.html
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0410B1-update.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-11-tuberculosis-threat_N.htm
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: No, it's not funny |
09 Jun 2007 09:36:40 AM |
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"Scottsdale Guy" <noneofyourbusinessisit@getlost.com> wrote in message
news:camai.417082$g24.205640@newsfe12.phx...
"Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" <tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4669E92B.7FB1564B@yahoo.co.uk...
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
On Jun 8, 4:31 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com>
wrote:
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY.Ain't it a HOOT?............
Actually, it's not funny at all. Indeed, for you to laugh at the
problems of the criminal justice system is an insult to victims of
crime and in incredibly bad taste. But then again, you find it a big
joke that our soldiers are dying overseas for our country.
Celebrity worship aside, perhaps this situation may shed some light on
the hellhole our nation's jails and prisons have become. County jails
are particularly bad.
In an article on MSNBC, they reported how Arizona locks up sick people
(innocent of any crime and under health quarantine) in conditions
worse than given to serial murderers in supermax prisons. No
necessary medical treatment provided. No exercise or fresh air or
sunlight, critical for health reasons. No chance to appeal, no legal
rights.
What sick people are being locked up for being sick? They only example
I've heard of is that guy who flew to Europe and all over the place with
untreatable TB.
Our wonderful shitbag sherriff Joe Arpaio has a guy locked up here in PHX
somewhere for having TB. He wasn't allowed to have TV or phone or
anything
until recently IIRC
From what I have seen, I like that sherriff. But
I have to admit I don't live there, so please tell
me why you don't like him?
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| User: "Sophia" |
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| Title: Re: No, it's not funny |
08 Jun 2007 08:48:57 PM |
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Our wonderful shitbag sherriff Joe Arpaio has a guy locked up here in
PHX
somewhere for having TB. He wasn't allowed to have TV or phone or
anything
until recently IIRC
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0530tbbills0531.html
http://tinyurl.com/ysqeol
http://tinyurl.com/26xh6l
Isn't it better for this man to be isolated and treated? What would be
the cost to the public at large, if he spurned an outbreak?
--
Sophia
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Sophia's Profile: http://www.visual-ecstasy.com/forums/member.php?u=178
View this thread: http://www.visual-ecstasy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59879
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: No, it's not funny |
09 Jun 2007 03:27:36 PM |
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On Jun 8, 7:41 pm, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
<tributyltinpa...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
What sick people are being locked up for being sick? They only example
I've heard of is that guy who flew to Europe and all over the place with
untreatable TB.
In a related article on MSNBC, it discussed what happens to other
people when they are put in "quarantine". It is not an issue normally
discussed.
Neither are the hellholes of county jails. I could care less about
Miss Hilton, but maybe the attention to what actually goes on in the
jail--with its severe overcrowding and lack of services--will bring
some reform. Keep in mind many housed in that jail are merely
awaiting trial (can't make bail) and not convicted of any crime.
Others are in jail for petty crimes.
I don't care if you want to put people in jail. But if you do, do so
under reasonable conditions; don't pack three people into a cell built
for one, and don't use common areas for still more housing.
Given the lousy treatment and lack of services, it's no wonder the
repeat rate is so high.
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| User: "KyleAttwater" |
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| Title: Re: JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
08 Jun 2007 03:41:40 PM |
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The judge cant decree anything doofuss. The judge has legal guidelines for
sentencing and cant go out of the range the law permits.
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181334671.972203.210380@r19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY..............The Judge runs the
Courtroom and the Sheriff runs the Jail............The Judge can
Decree whatever Sentence he wants, but the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to
Determine how long he wants someone kept in His Jail............If
the
Judge can charge the Sheriff with "Contempt of Court", then the
Sheriff can have the Judge ARRESTED for INTERFERING with the
Police............Such as it is in the American Justice System run by
Petty Bureaucrats DRUNK with POWER...........Ain't it a
HOOT?............
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| User: "theloneranger100" |
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| Title: Re: JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
08 Jun 2007 04:01:19 PM |
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On Jun 8, 1:41?pm, "KyleAttwater" <K...@earthlink.net> wrote:
The judge cant decree anything doofuss. The judge has legal guidelines for
sentencing and cant go out of the range the law permits.
And the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to Release Someone
Early............DumbAss............
"theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181334671.972203.210380@r19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY..............The Judge runs the
Courtroom and the Sheriff runs the Jail............The Judge can
Decree whatever Sentence he wants, but the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to
Determine how long he wants someone kept in His Jail............If
the
Judge can charge the Sheriff with "Contempt of Court", then the
Sheriff can have the Judge ARRESTED for INTERFERING with the
Police............Such as it is in the American Justice System run by
Petty Bureaucrats DRUNK with POWER...........Ain't it a
HOOT?............- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "Bombastic Bushkin" |
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| Title: Re: JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
08 Jun 2007 04:58:01 PM |
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"theloneranger100" <JakDeHammer@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181336479.053612.179480@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 8, 1:41?pm, "KyleAttwater" <K...@earthlink.net> wrote:
The judge cant decree anything doofuss. The judge has legal guidelines
for
sentencing and cant go out of the range the law permits.
And the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to Release Someone
Early............DumbAss............
"theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181334671.972203.210380@r19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Yup.........This is getting FUNNY..............The Judge runs the
Courtroom and the Sheriff runs the Jail............The Judge can
Decree whatever Sentence he wants, but the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to
Determine how long he wants someone kept in His Jail............If
the
Judge can charge the Sheriff with "Contempt of Court", then the
Sheriff can have the Judge ARRESTED for INTERFERING with the
Police............Such as it is in the American Justice System run by
Petty Bureaucrats DRUNK with POWER...........Ain't it a
HOOT?............- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Even the Governor of the state is subject to the decisions of the lowliest
Justice of the Peace. The Governor can appeal, of course, but if the
appellate court agrees with the Justice, the decision will stand. The
law is more important than the man. There have, of course, been
miscarriages of justice, usually when the judge and sheriff are in
collusion. There have also been genuine mistakes made. The sentence
Paris Hilton received was no mistake. She will finally get the spanking
that her parents would never give her.
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| User: "Shawn Hirn" |
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| Title: Re: JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
09 Jun 2007 10:46:32 PM |
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In article <1181336479.053612.179480@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
theloneranger100 <JakDeHammer@aol.com> wrote:
On Jun 8, 1:41?pm, "KyleAttwater" <K...@earthlink.net> wrote:
The judge cant decree anything doofuss. The judge has legal guidelines for
sentencing and cant go out of the range the law permits.
And the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to Release Someone
Early............DumbAss............
Really? Since when? If that's the case, why was poor Paris sent back to
jail?
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| User: "Luminoso" |
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| Title: Re: JUDGE & SHERIFF BATTLE OVER PARIS HILTON!! |
08 Jun 2007 05:11:38 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:01:19 -0700, theloneranger100
<JakDeHammer@aol.com> wrote:
On Jun 8, 1:41?pm, "KyleAttwater" <K...@earthlink.net> wrote:
The judge cant decree anything doofuss. The judge has legal guidelines for
sentencing and cant go out of the range the law permits.
And the Sheriff HAS THE POWER to Release Someone
Early............DumbAss............
Clearly a fine reading of the exact statutes is required.
In the justice system, judges are ultimately supreme and
can only be over-ridden by a higher judge or a pardon
issued by a governor or president.
Most likely, this means that the sheriff can release
prisoners to alternate incarceration -unless- the judge
has specifically ordered that not happen - as in Hiltons
case. If the judge doesn't specify then the sheriff has
some personal discretion.
Anyway, -this- case looked as if the sheriff was
paid-off. The appearance of impropriety upsets the
Machiavellian illusion of equal justice for all and
thus won't be tolerated by the powers that be. The
sheriff -will- be spanked and Hilton -will- do her
time in the clink. She may not even get the benifit
of the "special" wing this time.
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