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Date:	20 Aug 2006 10:52:27 AM
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Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney
Senator Labels Bush Iraq Policy 'Disaster,' Lieberman Bid 'Huge
Mistake'
By ED O'KEEFE
Aug. 20, 2006 — - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., blasted fellow a Democrat,
Sen. Joe Lieberman, for continuing his bid in the Connecticut Senate
race despite a narrow loss to newcomer Ned Lamont in the Democratic
primary earlier this month.
"I'm concerned that [Lieberman] is making a Republican case," Kerry
told ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" in an exclusive
appearance.
Kerry accused the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate of
"adopting the rhetoric of ***** Cheney," on the issue of Iraq.
"Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut," Kerry
added, insisting Lieberman's stance on Iraq, "shows you just why he
got in trouble with the Democrats there."
Kerry called Lieberman's independent bid a "huge mistake" and
applauded businessman-turned-politician Lamont as "courageous" for
challenging Lieberman on the war.
Of his own views on Iraq, Kerry stated forthrightly, "The course of
this country in Iraq is making the world more dangerous."
Kerry, the Democrat's nominee for president in 2004, supported the
2003 Senate resolution that ultimately led to the invasion of Iraq,
and was criticized throughout his White House bid for then opposing a
measure funding continuing operations in that effort. The Bush
campaign seized on what they described as Kerry's wavering views on
Iraq, which in part led to the senator's 2004 election defeat.
Since 2004, Kerry has steadily sharpened his opposition to the Iraq
war, calling for a steady withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning last
year.
Kerry told chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, "Iraq
is not the center of the war on terror," while also asserting, "Iraq
is in a civil war; of course it's in a civil war."
Kerry said he supports the efforts of Senator John Warner, R-Va., to
introduce a second resolution on Iraq if and when the country descends
into outright civil war. Kerry believes that moment has come and
reiterated, "We have to set a date for the withdrawal," before
concluding, "The absence of diplomacy is putting our troops at greater
risk and is reducing our ability for success."
On the uncertain ceasefire involving Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah,
Kerry said the near-month-long violence "set back" Hezbollah, but did
so "at a greater cost to Israel."
Kerry also criticized President Bush's approach to the troubled
region.
"I know that I would have handled the diplomacy," he said.
Kerry connected the hostilities between Israel and Lebanon to Iraq,
once again proclaiming, "I believe the president's policy in Iraq is a
disaster of catastrophic proportions." He said his more diplomatic
approach to Iraq might have prevented the instability the region
currently faces.
Regarding the 2008 presidential content, Kerry remained uncommitted,
but dismissed early polls that seem to frame Sen. Hillary Rodham
Clinton, D-N.Y., as a leading contender.
"George, you're talking to somebody who was once 30 points down,"
Kerry said. "My decision [to run] … will not be based on any poll. It
will be based on my vision for the direction of the country."
.

User: "Dan Kimmel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 08:28:41 PM

"sgtbob" <sgtbob@nomail.biz> wrote in message
news:c91he21ii04921i1vp5g17jo90sr5im6nt@4ax.com...

Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney
Senator Labels Bush Iraq Policy 'Disaster,' Lieberman Bid 'Huge
Mistake'
By ED O'KEEFE

Aug. 20, 2006 - - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., blasted fellow a Democrat,
Sen. Joe Lieberman, for continuing his bid in the Connecticut Senate
race despite a narrow loss to newcomer Ned Lamont in the Democratic
primary earlier this month.

"I'm concerned that [Lieberman] is making a Republican case," Kerry
told ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" in an exclusive
appearance.

Kerry accused the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate of
"adopting the rhetoric of ***** Cheney," on the issue of Iraq.

"Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut," Kerry
added, insisting Lieberman's stance on Iraq, "shows you just why he
got in trouble with the Democrats there."

Kerry called Lieberman's independent bid a "huge mistake" and
applauded businessman-turned-politician Lamont as "courageous" for
challenging Lieberman on the war.

Excellent. More Democrats should forthrightly slam Lieberman as the
Republcan toady he is.
.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 12:35:46 PM

Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
in knots.
While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better
for the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
In alt.politics.usa.republican sgtbob <sgtbob@nomail.biz> wrote:
: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney
: Senator Labels Bush Iraq Policy 'Disaster,' Lieberman Bid 'Huge
: Mistake'
: By ED O'KEEFE
: Aug. 20, 2006 ? - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., blasted fellow a Democrat,
: Sen. Joe Lieberman, for continuing his bid in the Connecticut Senate
: race despite a narrow loss to newcomer Ned Lamont in the Democratic
: primary earlier this month.
: "I'm concerned that [Lieberman] is making a Republican case," Kerry
: told ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" in an exclusive
: appearance.
: Kerry accused the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate of
: "adopting the rhetoric of ***** Cheney," on the issue of Iraq.
: "Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut," Kerry
: added, insisting Lieberman's stance on Iraq, "shows you just why he
: got in trouble with the Democrats there."
: Kerry called Lieberman's independent bid a "huge mistake" and
: applauded businessman-turned-politician Lamont as "courageous" for
: challenging Lieberman on the war.
: Of his own views on Iraq, Kerry stated forthrightly, "The course of
: this country in Iraq is making the world more dangerous."
: Kerry, the Democrat's nominee for president in 2004, supported the
: 2003 Senate resolution that ultimately led to the invasion of Iraq,
: and was criticized throughout his White House bid for then opposing a
: measure funding continuing operations in that effort. The Bush
: campaign seized on what they described as Kerry's wavering views on
: Iraq, which in part led to the senator's 2004 election defeat.
: Since 2004, Kerry has steadily sharpened his opposition to the Iraq
: war, calling for a steady withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning last
: year.
: Kerry told chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, "Iraq
: is not the center of the war on terror," while also asserting, "Iraq
: is in a civil war; of course it's in a civil war."
: Kerry said he supports the efforts of Senator John Warner, R-Va., to
: introduce a second resolution on Iraq if and when the country descends
: into outright civil war. Kerry believes that moment has come and
: reiterated, "We have to set a date for the withdrawal," before
: concluding, "The absence of diplomacy is putting our troops at greater
: risk and is reducing our ability for success."
: On the uncertain ceasefire involving Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah,
: Kerry said the near-month-long violence "set back" Hezbollah, but did
: so "at a greater cost to Israel."
: Kerry also criticized President Bush's approach to the troubled
: region.
: "I know that I would have handled the diplomacy," he said.
: Kerry connected the hostilities between Israel and Lebanon to Iraq,
: once again proclaiming, "I believe the president's policy in Iraq is a
: disaster of catastrophic proportions." He said his more diplomatic
: approach to Iraq might have prevented the instability the region
: currently faces.
: Regarding the 2008 presidential content, Kerry remained uncommitted,
: but dismissed early polls that seem to frame Sen. Hillary Rodham
: Clinton, D-N.Y., as a leading contender.
: "George, you're talking to somebody who was once 30 points down,"
: Kerry said. "My decision [to run] ? will not be based on any poll. It
: will be based on my vision for the direction of the country."
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User: "Kevin Cunningham"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 01:54:57 PM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:fYmdnd72GsTvAHXZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...

What we dems are enjoying is watching you repugs croak off your candidate.
I watched McCain claim he supported him but he wouldn't say anything else
about him, oh, McCain won't be going to CN. Purely by accident of
course....

In alt.politics.usa.republican sgtbob <sgtbob@nomail.biz> wrote:
: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney
: Senator Labels Bush Iraq Policy 'Disaster,' Lieberman Bid 'Huge
: Mistake'
: By ED O'KEEFE

: Aug. 20, 2006 ? - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., blasted fellow a Democrat,
: Sen. Joe Lieberman, for continuing his bid in the Connecticut Senate
: race despite a narrow loss to newcomer Ned Lamont in the Democratic
: primary earlier this month.

: "I'm concerned that [Lieberman] is making a Republican case," Kerry
: told ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" in an exclusive
: appearance.

: Kerry accused the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate of
: "adopting the rhetoric of ***** Cheney," on the issue of Iraq.

: "Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut," Kerry
: added, insisting Lieberman's stance on Iraq, "shows you just why he
: got in trouble with the Democrats there."

: Kerry called Lieberman's independent bid a "huge mistake" and
: applauded businessman-turned-politician Lamont as "courageous" for
: challenging Lieberman on the war.

: Of his own views on Iraq, Kerry stated forthrightly, "The course of
: this country in Iraq is making the world more dangerous."

: Kerry, the Democrat's nominee for president in 2004, supported the
: 2003 Senate resolution that ultimately led to the invasion of Iraq,
: and was criticized throughout his White House bid for then opposing a
: measure funding continuing operations in that effort. The Bush
: campaign seized on what they described as Kerry's wavering views on
: Iraq, which in part led to the senator's 2004 election defeat.

: Since 2004, Kerry has steadily sharpened his opposition to the Iraq
: war, calling for a steady withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning last
: year.

: Kerry told chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, "Iraq
: is not the center of the war on terror," while also asserting, "Iraq
: is in a civil war; of course it's in a civil war."

: Kerry said he supports the efforts of Senator John Warner, R-Va., to
: introduce a second resolution on Iraq if and when the country descends
: into outright civil war. Kerry believes that moment has come and
: reiterated, "We have to set a date for the withdrawal," before
: concluding, "The absence of diplomacy is putting our troops at greater
: risk and is reducing our ability for success."

: On the uncertain ceasefire involving Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah,
: Kerry said the near-month-long violence "set back" Hezbollah, but did
: so "at a greater cost to Israel."

: Kerry also criticized President Bush's approach to the troubled
: region.

: "I know that I would have handled the diplomacy," he said.

: Kerry connected the hostilities between Israel and Lebanon to Iraq,
: once again proclaiming, "I believe the president's policy in Iraq is a
: disaster of catastrophic proportions." He said his more diplomatic
: approach to Iraq might have prevented the instability the region
: currently faces.

: Regarding the 2008 presidential content, Kerry remained uncommitted,
: but dismissed early polls that seem to frame Sen. Hillary Rodham
: Clinton, D-N.Y., as a leading contender.

: "George, you're talking to somebody who was once 30 points down,"
: Kerry said. "My decision [to run] ? will not be based on any poll. It
: will be based on my vision for the direction of the country."

--

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User: "Zizek!"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 01:16:02 PM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:fYmdnd72GsTvAHXZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...

Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
in knots.

No one is tied up yet. Wait until Lieberman "comes out".
.

User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 02:36:23 PM

Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:

Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
in knots.

Looks like a Republican being exposed as a Bush-kissing Republican
and getting his traitor ***** kicked is upsetting you. Good. Hope
you choke and die on it, coward.
---
"I've stood with President Bush in the war on terrorism."
Minnesota Representative Mark Kennedy, baby killing traitor.
.

User: "ff4b"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 03:59:14 PM

Man just think of it, you lib turds voted to nominate the guy a your VP
candidate in 2000! What a bunch of geniuses you are! lol!
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:12ehe8mmlm45rc6@corp.supernews.com...

Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:

Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
in knots.

Looks like a Republican being exposed as a Bush-kissing Republican
and getting his traitor ***** kicked is upsetting you. Good. Hope
you choke and die on it, coward.

---
"I've stood with President Bush in the war on terrorism."
Minnesota Representative Mark Kennedy, baby killing traitor.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 07:03:35 PM

In alt.politics.usa.republican ff4b <firehose4hire@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Man just think of it, you lib turds voted to nominate the guy a your VP
: candidate in 2000! What a bunch of geniuses you are! lol!
Had the sore/loserman ticket managed to steal the election as they tried
more likely then not he'd still be VP. These lunatics don't care who they
throw under the bus.
: "Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
: news:12ehe8mmlm45rc6@corp.supernews.com...
: > Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
: >
: >>Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: >>gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: >>in knots.
: >
: > Looks like a Republican being exposed as a Bush-kissing Republican
: > and getting his traitor ***** kicked is upsetting you. Good. Hope
: > you choke and die on it, coward.
: >
: > ---
: > "I've stood with President Bush in the war on terrorism."
: > Minnesota Representative Mark Kennedy, baby killing traitor.
: >
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User: "The PretZel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 03:34:32 PM

On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:

LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
it by running as an *****.
It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
united behind the anti-Iraq war.

In alt.politics.usa.republican sgtbob <sgtbob@nomail.biz> wrote:
: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney
: Senator Labels Bush Iraq Policy 'Disaster,' Lieberman Bid 'Huge
: Mistake'
: By ED O'KEEFE

: Aug. 20, 2006 ? - Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., blasted fellow a Democrat,
: Sen. Joe Lieberman, for continuing his bid in the Connecticut Senate
: race despite a narrow loss to newcomer Ned Lamont in the Democratic
: primary earlier this month.

: "I'm concerned that [Lieberman] is making a Republican case," Kerry
: told ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" in an exclusive
: appearance.

: Kerry accused the 2000 Democratic vice presidential candidate of
: "adopting the rhetoric of ***** Cheney," on the issue of Iraq.
: "Joe Lieberman is out of step with the people of Connecticut," Kerry
: added, insisting Lieberman's stance on Iraq, "shows you just why he
: got in trouble with the Democrats there."

: Kerry called Lieberman's independent bid a "huge mistake" and
: applauded businessman-turned-politician Lamont as "courageous" for
: challenging Lieberman on the war.

: Of his own views on Iraq, Kerry stated forthrightly, "The course of
: this country in Iraq is making the world more dangerous."
: Kerry, the Democrat's nominee for president in 2004, supported the
: 2003 Senate resolution that ultimately led to the invasion of Iraq,
: and was criticized throughout his White House bid for then opposing a
: measure funding continuing operations in that effort. The Bush
: campaign seized on what they described as Kerry's wavering views on
: Iraq, which in part led to the senator's 2004 election defeat.

: Since 2004, Kerry has steadily sharpened his opposition to the Iraq
: war, calling for a steady withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning last
: year.

: Kerry told chief Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos, "Iraq
: is not the center of the war on terror," while also asserting, "Iraq
: is in a civil war; of course it's in a civil war."

: Kerry said he supports the efforts of Senator John Warner, R-Va., to
: introduce a second resolution on Iraq if and when the country descends
: into outright civil war. Kerry believes that moment has come and
: reiterated, "We have to set a date for the withdrawal," before
: concluding, "The absence of diplomacy is putting our troops at greater
: risk and is reducing our ability for success."

: On the uncertain ceasefire involving Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah,
: Kerry said the near-month-long violence "set back" Hezbollah, but did
: so "at a greater cost to Israel."

: Kerry also criticized President Bush's approach to the troubled
: region.

: "I know that I would have handled the diplomacy," he said.

: Kerry connected the hostilities between Israel and Lebanon to Iraq,
: once again proclaiming, "I believe the president's policy in Iraq is a
: disaster of catastrophic proportions." He said his more diplomatic
: approach to Iraq might have prevented the instability the region
: currently faces.
: Regarding the 2008 presidential content, Kerry remained uncommitted,
: but dismissed early polls that seem to frame Sen. Hillary Rodham
: Clinton, D-N.Y., as a leading contender.

: "George, you're talking to somebody who was once 30 points down,"
: Kerry said. "My decision [to run] ? will not be based on any poll. It
: will be based on my vision for the direction of the country."

--
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their
notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."
- Thomas Jefferson
.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 08:05:33 PM

In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com> wrote:
: On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:
: > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > in knots.
: >
: > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better for
: > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
: it by running as an *****.
: It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
: united behind the anti-Iraq war.
His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain dead
loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with the rest
of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
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User: "Dan Kimmel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 08:30:05 PM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...

In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>

wrote:

: On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>

said:

: > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > in knots.
: >
: > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better for
: > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.

: LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
: it by running as an *****.
: It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
: united behind the anti-Iraq war.

His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain

dead

loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with the

rest

of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.

Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
supporters, mostly Republicans.
.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	21 Aug 2006 08:20:55 AM

In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
: wrote:
: > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
: said:
: >
: > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > : > in knots.
: > : >
: > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better for
: > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: >
: > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
: > : it by running as an *****.
: > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
: > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: >
: > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain
: dead
: > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with the
: rest
: > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
: Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
: supporters, mostly Republicans.
That cite been given in other threads.
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User: "Dan Kimmel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	21 Aug 2006 08:34:46 AM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:cb6dnaWnSYaqLnTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...

<sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>

: wrote:
: > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel

<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>

: said:
: >
: > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > : > in knots.
: > : >
: > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better

for

: > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: >
: > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman

proved

: > : it by running as an *****.
: > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems

are

: > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: >
: > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune

brain

: dead
: > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with

the

: rest
: > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.

: Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
: supporters, mostly Republicans.

That cite been given in other threads.

Translation: "I don't have a cite."
.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	21 Aug 2006 07:26:01 PM

In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:cb6dnaWnSYaqLnTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel
: <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
: > : wrote:
: > : > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
: > : said:
: > : >
: > : > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > : > : > in knots.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better
: for
: > : > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: > : >
: > : > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman
: proved
: > : > : it by running as an *****.
: > : > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: > : > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems
: are
: > : > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: > : >
: > : > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune
: brain
: > : dead
: > : > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with
: the
: > : rest
: > : > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
: >
: > : Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
: > : supporters, mostly Republicans.
: >
: >
: > That cite been given in other threads.
: Translation: "I don't have a cite."
Correct Translation: "The information you're asking for has been posted multiple
times and I'm not posting it again."
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User: "Dan Kimmel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 04:57:50 AM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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wrote:

: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel
: <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
: > : wrote:
: > : > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
: > : said:
: > : >
: > : > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied

: > : > : > in knots.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's

better

: for
: > : > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: > : >
: > : > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman
: proved
: > : > : it by running as an *****.
: > : > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that

sucks

: > : > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser.

Dems

: are
: > : > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: > : >
: > : > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune
: brain
: > : dead
: > : > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step

with

: the
: > : rest
: > : > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
: >
: > : Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are

Lieberman's

: > : supporters, mostly Republicans.
: >
: >
: > That cite been given in other threads.

: Translation: "I don't have a cite."

Correct Translation: "The information you're asking for has been posted

multiple

times and I'm not posting it again."

Corrected Translation: "There is no reliable source for it so I'll dodge
again."
.

User: "The PretZel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 03:06:03 PM

On 2006-08-21 17:26:01 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:

In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:

: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:cb6dnaWnSYaqLnTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel
: <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
: > : wrote:
: > : > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
: > : said:
: > : >
: > : > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > : > : > in knots.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better
: for
: > : > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: > : >
: > : > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman
: proved
: > : > : it by running as an *****.
: > : > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: > : > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems
: are
: > : > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: > : >
: > : > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune
: brain
: > : dead
: > : > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with
: the
: > : rest
: > : > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
: >
: > : Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
: > : supporters, mostly Republicans.
: >
: >
: > That cite been given in other threads.

: Translation: "I don't have a cite."

Correct Translation: "The information you're asking for has been posted
multiple
times and I'm not posting it again."

If it has then you shouldn't mind posting it again. It's YOUR
propaganda, *****.
....and his voting record isn't the problem, fuckwit. It's his claim
that we must stand behind the POTUS/King without question and THAT
ain't gonna happen anytime soon, *****. We tend to question
everything. ...and no...., we don't march lock-step nor do we kiss the
King's cheek like LIEberman, or kiss the King's ***** as YOU do.
Stupid fucking Rightarded sPittel.
--
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their
notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."
- Thomas Jefferson
.

User: "Frank Pittel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 07:01:33 PM

In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com> wrote:
: On 2006-08-21 17:26:01 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:cb6dnaWnSYaqLnTZnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : > : news:_dadncdl2aRAm3TZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > : > In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel
: > : <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
: > : > : wrote:
: > : > : > : On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel
: > : <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
: > : > : said:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > : > : > : > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > : > : > : > in knots.
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better
: > : for
: > : > : > : > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > : > : > : > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > : LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman
: > : proved
: > : > : > : it by running as an *****.
: > : > : > : It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: > : > : > : and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems
: > : are
: > : > : > : united behind the anti-Iraq war.
: > : > : >
: > : > : > His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune
: > : brain
: > : > : dead
: > : > : > loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with
: > : the
: > : > : rest
: > : > : > of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.
: > : >
: > : > : Source fot the "90%" figure? The only ones who use it are Lieberman's
: > : > : supporters, mostly Republicans.
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > That cite been given in other threads.
: >
: > : Translation: "I don't have a cite."
: >
: > Correct Translation: "The information you're asking for has been posted
: > multiple
: > times and I'm not posting it again."
: If it has then you shouldn't mind posting it again. It's YOUR
: propaganda, *****.
: ...and his voting record isn't the problem, fuckwit. It's his claim
: that we must stand behind the POTUS/King without question and THAT
: ain't gonna happen anytime soon, *****. We tend to question
: everything. ...and no...., we don't march lock-step nor do we kiss the
: King's cheek like LIEberman, or kiss the King's ***** as YOU do.
: Stupid fucking Rightarded sPittel.
Have you forgotten to take your meds again?
--
-------------------
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
.

User: "Zizek!"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 08:55:03 PM

"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel <sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>
wrote:
: On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>
said:

: > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > in knots.
: >
: > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better for
: > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.

: LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
: it by running as an *****.
: It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
: united behind the anti-Iraq war.

His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain
dead
loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with the
rest
of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.

There's no such thoing as "liberal" voting record except in Limbaughland.
The World of Kooks.
.

User: "Dan Kimmel"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	21 Aug 2006 06:12:01 AM

"Zizek!" <throwshit@bush.net> wrote in message
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel

<sourdough@saltwithmustard.com>

wrote:
: On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel

<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com>

said:

: > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > in knots.
: >
: > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better

for

: > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.

: LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman

proved

: it by running as an *****.
: It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems

are

: united behind the anti-Iraq war.

His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain
dead
loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with

the

rest
of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.

There's no such thoing as "liberal" voting record except in Limbaughland.
The World of Kooks.

Indeed, the only ones who ever cite this imaginary record are Republicans!
.

User: "ff4b"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 04:01:23 PM

Man just think of it, you lib turds voted to nominate the guy a your VP
candidate in 2000! What a bunch of geniuses you are! lol!
"Zizek!" <throwshit@bush.net> wrote in message
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican The PretZel
<sourdough@saltwithmustard.com> wrote:
: On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:

: > Looks like the idea of Lieberman running as an independent has
: > gotten the looney tune brain dead loser lib dems panties tied up
: > in knots.
: >
: > While I would prefer a conservative winning the seat. It's better for
: > the country to have a reasonable and rational liberal like
: > Lieberman then an insane, out of control lunatic like ned.

: LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
: it by running as an *****.
: It's clear that Repugs will support anyone (or anything) that sucks
: and/or licks King Georgie's atrophied balls. Lick away, loser. Dems are
: united behind the anti-Iraq war.

His 90% liberal voting record makes him a liberal. You looney tune brain
dead
loser lib dems threw him overboard because he wouldn't goose step with
the rest
of the lunatic kooks that make up the dems.

There's no such thoing as "liberal" voting record except in Limbaughland.
The World of Kooks.

User: ""
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	22 Aug 2006 06:43:30 PM

The PretZel wrote:

On 2006-08-20 10:35:46 -0700, Frank Pittel <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> said:

LIEberman IS a conservative. ...not a Democrat. ...and LIEberman proved
it by running as an *****.

(cut)
Here's a link showing his voting record
http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=S0141103
- A. McIntire
.

User: "princeandy"
Title: Re: Kerry Calls Lieberman the New Cheney	20 Aug 2006 04:19:20 PM

WHAT DONT THESE GUYS UNDERSTAND? LIEBERMAN SAYS STUFF YOUR TRADITIONS, YOUR
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND ANYONE WHO IS NOT JEWISH. I STAND FIRMLY FOR THE IRAQ
WAR TO HELP ISRAEL. THE NAZI APARTHEID ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ALL IT DOES.
IN FACT HE DOES NOT GIVE A ***** FOR AMERICA IF IT DOES NOT SUPPORT TO THE
HILT JEWS AND JEWISH VIEWS.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp?0si=-&cp1=1
Who has said, America and Israel? I'll pick Israel every time. That is a guy
who was educated, worked in intelligence in the air force in America
ALIEN CONTROL
Is US like Germany of the '30s? Published on Friday, June 11, 2004 by the
Chicago Sun Times by Andrew Greeley
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0611-10.htm
The Daily Mail reported on 10 July 1933:
'The German nation, moreover, was rapidly falling under the control of its
alien elements. In the last days of the pre-Hitler regime there were twenty
times as many Jewish government officials in Germany as had existed before
the war. Israelites of international attachments were insinuating themselves
into key positions in the German administrative machine.'
Resentment and resistance began to build up against the alien horde and in
the year before Adolf Hitler came to power Bernard Lecache, President of the
World Jewish League, stated:
'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war
without mercy against her.'
On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily
Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews
of all the world unite", and followed with:
'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war
on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany
revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one
body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his
business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his
miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's
people.'
http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Palast.htm
The following disturbing essay describing how U.S. geopolitics is
subverted, and its military leaders openly co-opted by a foreign country
(Israel) is from the website of Israel Shamir, a Russian Jew
who broke with organized Zionism and who now "tells it like it is" about
Israel (which very un-politically-correct, of course) in widely-read columns
(www.israelshamir.net)
Following an incisive essay about Greg Palast, a "leftist" Jewish-American
writer who laughably maintains that the USA's Israel-First Jewish Lobby and
its operatives in the U.S. government and
corporate media had nothing to do with bringing about the invasion of Iraq
or the drumbeat for an attack against Israel's other major enemy,Iran.
Shamir, himself a descendent of rabbis, pointedly writes:
"I have no idea of Palast's ethnic background, but ideologically,nobody
can be more Judaic than this man ["leftist" Palast, who is, in fact,
Jewish], who worships money, despises the native and wishes to
bomb some place in the Middle East. These are classic Judaic attitudes,so I
was not surprised when Palast emerged as an apologist for the Jewsand an
accuser of greedy WASPs and Arabs. In his 'Was the Invasion of Iraq A
Jewish Conspiracy?' essay published in the Jewish 'progressive'
magazine Tikkun, Pallast pulls usual ropes; for him, whoever thinks that the
Jewish establishment pushed for the war on Iraq (including Mearsheimer and
Walt, apparently) must adhere to the Elders of Zion and Christ-killers
paradigm."
In the following the author discusses Israel's infiltration of the
profoundly compromised and corrupted mainstream U.S. media and high-level
military officers by pro-Israel interests.
"From Jim Dean
"The Jewish Lobby shills are fairly easy to spot in the media. All you
have to do is read about any major problem or controversy where certain
Jewish interests are obviously entwined, and these normally intelligent and
insightful journalists become instantly blind to it. No other issue makes
them instantly braindead.
"For the goyim journalist fear is a major component as they work in a
ghetto type environment when it comes to discussing Israel. And then of
course there is ignorance...no shortage of that around. And last, of
course...prejudice. But there is also the intelligence aspect of it.
"Intelligence agency infiltration of the media is an old old game but you
don't read hardly a word about it in investigative journalism. Our CIA, and
others, have done this for years and so has our wonderfully ally Israel
right here in the land of free speech.
"I am not saying that their shills are graduates of Mossad. That would be
more expensive. They are recruited like most are recruited, some for money
(career assistance) and some purely for ideological
reasons, most often a combination of the two. They got their hooks into the
early teleevangelist the same way. They were in a position to greatly assist
in building them up...as long as they had a good
understanding about a few things. There is one that we have who flew around
on an Israeli Gov. Leat jet for a couple of years.
"It's the perfect infiltration set up. You have protection of sources. And
you are somewhat protected yourself from FBI investigations. Once your
career is 'advanced' high enough (Judith Miller?) you can be a source for
leaks, and you can even reveal your sources to your Israeli handler if you
want to. They do require some payback for the career help they offer.
"They have a separate program for retiring US generals and flag officers
They screen them prior to retirement to determine who is likely to remain in
the public eye. They are approached about their
retirement plans and if they are subservient enough are offered help getting
some 'board directorships' or nice consulting positions 'for such a good
friend of Israel'. This is topped off with a five star deluxe trip to Israel
where they are wined and dined.
"There is a lot of beneath the surface revulsion to this going on by those
below that level of rank. Our top officers are being seduced into the Jewish
Lobby propaganda machine in what many tell me is a classic Intel
infiltration operation. Our own Intel people (the ones who are not
Israel-phobes) are just aghast at the proto dual citizenship compromising
that goes on. God only knows what they turn over to the Israelis, the doors
they open.
"One result of this is nary a critical word from our veteran organizations
regarding the most obvious Israeli security excesses, the biggest being the
massive Israeli Intel operations that have been
running here for decades. I hardly ever meet an military Intel person who is
not aware of this, and most all of them are completely complacent about it.
'Above my pay grade'...and 'that's really a
political issue' are the most common dodges that are trotted out about it.
They won't even discuss the USS Liberty. They just hang their heads in
shame.
"I have no specific information on Mr. Palast, but he is what we would
call in the Intel business 'a person of interest'. Now Judith Miller on the
other hand, she may be on their payroll. After all, she
was able to wiggle her way into the actual interrogations of some of addam
top Lts. while she went around with the Army WMD units in Iraq. My sources
told me this was unprecedented, having a journalist present in such
situations. Her DoD NeoCon buddies got her right in there. They
were there for each other and it wasn't a freak accident.
"And what other country do you think might have had an interest in knowing
what she learned in those interrogations...and quickly? Does anyone think
that her NeoCon buddies who got her on the inside were not getting detailed
reports of everything that she learned?
"This is called 'front door' espionage. No break ins are necessary. You
just make an appointment. The media refuses to cover this, and for very good
reason. They are involved. But when you think of how many Israeli spy
networks that US Intel broke up in the US last year...and the year before
that...and on and on...you can see how the midlevel people could have a
jaded attitude about the whole mess.
"It's a national disgrace.
"Jim Dean
"Heritage TV...Atlanta"
The victims were from Austria, Canada, China and Finland,
http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20060726-120144-9661r.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14029827/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,205549,00.html
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=66512
<tatpaul@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ø The shooting of "Solidarity-with-Israel" jews in Seattle by a lone

American muslim engineer could be just the tip of the iceberg of the
antipathy developing towards jews in America:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SEATTTLE_SHOOTING?SITE=7219&SECTION=H
OME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-28-20-03-32

and a more recent analysis:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/279424_convert30ww.html

While an isolated incident the extreme nature of it indicates all is
not kosher below the 49th. A week or so earlier a caller to the Art
Bell all-night talk show (CoasttoCoast) displayed overwhelming
resignation about intense, widespread disdain for jews, something that
normally would be precluded by screeners on pro-Israeli mainstream
media. So the fact that all that Americans are getting for their
$3-billion-a-year annual gift to Israel is body bags of friends or
relatives along with many more cripples is not sitting well with
Americans with no Israeli interests.

Current story from Iraq:

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=11
793

says Iraqis now see the American flag as a symbol of moral decadence.
Instead of symbolizing liberty, freedom and defence of human rights, US
flag is now associated with murder, rape, usurping human rights and
violating international laws, all resulting from Israeli agents and
lobbies taking political control of America for the defence of Israel.
An earlier article:

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_id=11
774

talks about No More Democracy Promotion by US in Iraq. My "Good"
comment is about two-thirds of the way down but also see the
"Excellent" one from "MeAgain" who endores my contribution and reveals
even more than I did.
President Bush, instead of mending fences in South America and
improving trade and economic opportunities for Americans is forced by
AIPAC to spend all of his time supporting zionist terrorists who have
been stealing land from Palestinians and killing them, incurring the
wrath of Arabs throughtout the ME and the world. While
industrialization opportunties in Venezula should be the perview of
American entrapreneurs, this market is not being facilitated by Bush
for Americans but by Ahmadinejad for Iranians:

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-17/0607308736011541.htm

The launching of US military forces against against Iraq by Israeli
neocon agents in the Whitehouse and Pentagon may soon get legal
scrutiny in a British court where three of England's most senior judges
will look into the legality of Britiain's entry into the war:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/uk-court-to-test-legality-of-iraq-war/20
06/07/27/1153816320596.html

Families of British soldiers killed in Iraq asked for the court inquiry
using an EU right-to-life human rights convention.

A more ominous message is in a Herndon survey on Sorcha's somewhat
mystical What Does It Mean.com site which notes a dramatic trend in the
US and Germany: a developing wave of potentially violent anti-semitism.
The survey found jewish and Israeli organizations are in the process
of rapidly losing control of their PR initiatives:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index938.htm

These events together with rumbling's in Blair's cabinet, US State's
denial that indecision in Rome "allowed" Israel to continue bombing
Lebanon, Israeli casualties, Russia not including Hizbollah and Hamas
on its list of (17) "terror" organizations, and more Arab states
condemning Israel's destruction of Lebanese infrastructure indicate
zionists would be better off at the negotiating table rather than the
battlefield, especially since the only purpose of Hizbollah's capture
of IDF soldiers was to get negotiations going to return their POW's
Tatarewicz
-------------------------------------

Qana Massacre II
30 July 2006
55 Civilians massacred including 27 children in a shelter (Early reports)
Qana is the place where, according to the Fourth Gospel, Jesus performed his
first miracle, the turning of a large quantity of water into wine at a
wedding feast (John 2:1-11) http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.info/
Ø
LINKS THAT WERE BROKEN BY THE HOLOCAUST COSPIRACY OF LIES.
2 SNOWY HAIRED 7 AND 8 YEAR OLD KIDS , A GIRL AND A BOY PLAYING IN THE
CONFUSION THAT WAS EUROPE DURING WWII CAME ACROSS A LARGE BLACK MAN SITTING
VERY QUIETLY AND STARTED TO SPEAK TO HIM AND PLAYFULLY TOUCH HIM.
HE CAME TO LIFE AND CHASED THEM OFF STILL NOT MOVING JUST BY YELLING AND
WAVING HIS ARMS. THE KIDS MOVED TO WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS A SAFE DISTANCE
STILL TEASING HIM AS PLAYFUL STUPID 7 AND 8 YEAROLDS WILL.
THEN THE MAN HAVING APPARENTLY FRIGHTENED THEM OF TO A SAFE DISTANCE BLEW UP
INTO THE AIR SO FRIGHTENING THE 2 KIDS THEY RAN OF IN A PANIC TO TELL THEIR
MOTHER WHO WAS RESTING WITH OTHER REFUGEES .
THAT WAS THE LAST OF THE INCIDENT FOR THE KIDS ANYWAY TILL I WAS TALKING TO
THE RELATIVES NOW GROWN UP ADULTS AND REALISED WHAT HAD POSSIBLY HAPPENED.
WITH AN EXSERVICEMAN FATHER THERE WAS ONE LANDMINE IN WWII THAT I BELIEVE
YOU KNEW YOU HAD TRIGGERED WHEN YOU HEARD THE CLICK. THE NEXT SOUND YOU KNEW
YOU WOULD HEAR WOULD BE THE EXPLOSION WHICH WOULD IN ALL PROBABILITY KILL
YOU.
THAT IS ONE OF A THOUSAND STORIES THAT SHOULD HAVE CEMENTED RELATIONS
BETWEEN AMERICANS AND EUROPEANS IN THAT A LOT OF THE AMERICAN SERVICEMEN
TOOK HOME WIVES FROM EUROPE CEMENTED ON DANGEROUS MEETINGS LIKE THAT
DESCRIBED ABOVE THAT MIGHT HAVE SAVED THE SERVICEMANS LIFE.
HOWEVER THE FIRST TING THE EUROPEAN FOUND ON ARRIVING IN ANY OF THE WESTERN
DEMOCRACIES WAS THAT THE WATER HAD BEEN NICELY MUDDIED SO THAT WHEN YOU
INNOCENTLY CAME OUT WITH THE TRUTH AS YOU KNEW IT IN EUROPE HAVING LIVED
THROUGH IT, YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
AND HAD BEEN BRAINWASHED BY THE NAZIS BECAUSE THE JEWISH GROCERS AUNTY TOLD
HER ALL ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED .
AND YOU WERE IN SOMEONES ELSES COUNTRY INTERMARRIED AND ALL .
YOU HAD THE SAME FREEDOMS THAT YOU NOW ENJOY IN OUR WESTERN DEMOCRACIES, AND
SOME OF YOU TURNED ON THE PEOPLE AND COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE TO SHOW YOUR
SOLIDARITY WITH JEWS/ZIONISTS.
THERE WERE JEWS WHO WERE LOYAL GERMAN CITIZENS AND WORKED WITH THE GERMANS .
Jews in German army
http://judaism.about.com/b/a/039042.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/675641/posts
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/jewishnazi.html
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERmiltch.htm
http://www.jugendgeschichtswerkstatt.de/strassennamen/fliegerviertel/flieger
viertel.html
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/gerjews.htm
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/00/03/NSJews.html
Here by a Munich-born historian saluting in moving detail a group of little
known
heroines - the women, nearly all of them German, who opposed Hitler both
before and, more dramatically, during the war.
http://www.new-books-in-german.com/aut2001/book05a.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp?0si=-&cp1=1
Who has said, America and Israel? I'll pick Israel every time. That is a guy
who was educated, worked in intelligence in the air force in America
http://www.von-waldenburg.com/reviews.html
WOMAN WHO LIVED THROUGH WAR IN GERMANY
HORRORS LET LOOSE BY WAR
http://www.technologyartist.com/unit_731/comments_731.html
http://www.tribalmessenger.org/
PEACE GROUP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
wwii CASUALTIES
TIME ACADEMICS STOPPED JEWS AND SUPPORTERS ENJOYING A GOOD LIVING ON
LIES AND DISHONEST PRACTICES IN CORRUPTING OUR HISTORY WHILE SUPPORTING THE
JAILING OF HONEST ACADEMICS TRYING TO PRESENT AND INCORPORATE THE TRUTH IN
WHAT IS MAINLY OUR HISTORY OF WWII AND NOT THE SOLE PROPERTY OF THE
JEWQW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI CLIQUE TO USE TO SUPPORT FURTHER LIES AND
MISREPRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE PRACTICES OF THE ZIONISTS AND SAME GROUP WHO
ARE IN POWER IN ISRAEL.
"Yisroel Markov" <ey.markov@MUNGiname.com> wrote in message
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UK to Israeli Profs: Class Dismissed
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The weird movement to boycott Israeli academics
By Ari Paul

NOTHING WEIRD , THE WEIRD IS THE STANDING BACK AND ACTUALLY ALLOWING THE
PAMPERED AND EGOTISTICAL JEWISH/ZIONIST/ISRAELI ACADEMICS BLUFF THEM INTO
NOT CONTRADICTING ALL THE LIES THEY HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A PART OF WWII
HISTORY AND ALLOWED AND SUPPORTED THE JAILING OF JEWISH AND NONJEWISH
HISTORIANS DOING NO MORE THAN THEIR JOB BY MAKING AN HONEST EVALUATION OF
THE HOLOCAUST CLAIMS AS NOT SUPPORTED BY HISTORICAL FACT.
AND IN SO DOING SUPPORTING THE LIES AND PROPAGANDA SPREAD BY ISRAEL AND
SUPPORTERS WHO ARE NOT EITHER LOYAL CITIZENS OR HONEST MEN/WOMEN.
ALLOWING THESE FRAUDS TO ENJOY A GOOD LIVING WHILE ALLOWING HONEST ACADEMICS
TO BE PERSECUTED.
http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html
The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
THE SECOND POINT IS IF THE ZEALOTS ARE SO UNABLE TO ACCEPT CO HABITATION
WITH NONJEWS, THEN THE JEWS /ZIONISTS SHOULD BE OBLIGED TO TAKE THE SAME
ACTION IN SILENCING THEIR AS NON JEWS DO AND ARE CONTINUALLY ASKED TO CHECK
ON THE STRENGHT OF A BIASED INACCURATE PORTRAYAL OF HISTORY TO ELICIT
SYMPATHY AND SUPPORT.
Until the early 1970s two different sets of arithmetic books were used in
Israel. One for the secular schools, employing an inverted "T" sign. In the
early '70's the religious fanatics "converted" the Labor Party to the great
danger of the cross in arithmetic, and from that time, in all Hebrew
elementary schools (and now many high schools as well) the international
plus sign has been forbidden.
Similar development is visible in other areas of education. Teaching the New
Testament was always forbidden, but in the old time conscientious teachers
of history used to circumvent the prohibition, by organizing seminars or
sending the students to libraries (not the school libraries, of course).
About 10 years ago there was a wave of denouncing such teachers. One in
Jerusalem was almost sacked, for advising her history pupils, who were
studying the history of Jews in Palestine around 30-40 AD, that it would be
a good thing if they would read a few chapters of the New Testament as a
historical aid. She retained her post only after humbly promising not to do
this again.
Nonetheless, it came into force on April 1, 1978, prohibiting the offering
of ¡§material inducement¡¨ for a person to change his religion. A material
inducement could be something as minor as the giving of a Bible
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/rel-christians.html
AND WE ALLOW ACADEMICS WITH THE MOST BARBARIC OF ISRAEL/ZIONIST/JEWISH
PHILOSOPHIES HOLD IMPORTANT POSITIONS IN OUR INSTITUTIONS PASSING ON THIS
OPINION OF HATE AND SUPPRESSION.
The Israel Lobby John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
http://www.nowar-paix.ca/nowar/forum/6973
HOW TO KEEP ACADEMICS QUIET
The Real Issue Is Israel's Human Rights Record:
A statement by Norman G. Finkelstein upon publication of Beyond Chutzpah
Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University is currently best known for
his advocacy of the "most excruciating" torture against terrorist suspects
such as a "needle being shoved under the fingernails." The alleged purpose
of this torture is to extract a truthful confession but its real
consequence, as human rights organizations have pointed out, is to produce
whatever statements are necessary to end the suffering. For 15 months
Dershowitz has applied a variant of this truth-seeking technique -- less
physically painful but no less excruciating -- to prospective publishers of
Beyond Chutzpah, which offers a critical examination of Israel's human
rights record and Dershowitz's defense of it. Enlisting one of the most
powerful law firms in the country after his personal initiatives proved
unsuccessful, Dershowitz has repeatedly threatened to bankrupt highly
respected publishers with litigation if they didn't cancel publication of my
book. He could then proclaim that the cancellation confirmed the "truth"
that Beyond Chutzpah didn't meet scholarly standards.
Dershowitz justified these blackmail tactics on the ground that Beyond
Chutzpah libels him. Yet, when I first began to expose his gross scholarly
misconduct, Dershowitz publicly declared at UCLA (on 21 October 2003) that
he wouldn't respond with a libel action because he believed "so strongly in
the First Amendment and full freedom of speech." Ironically, just as he was
threatening my publishers with expensive and time-consuming lawsuits,
Dershowitz denounced Holocaust denier David Irving, who had sued Deborah
Lipstadt for libel, with these words: "Before Irving lost his case [against
Lipstadt], several publishers had refused to issue books critical of Irving,
out of fear of his bringing expensive and time-consuming lawsuits. That was
a chilling of free speech" (Afterword to Lipstadt's History on Trial; his
emphasis).
My publisher, University of California Press, was understandably at great
pains to fend off a potential lawsuit by Dershowitz; for an academic
publisher the associated costs would have been ruinous, to the point of
making certain victory meaningless. On occasion our relationship became
strained and at one point it appeared as if we had reached an impasse.
However, through the skillful mediation of Nation magazine senior editor
Roane Carey (who was the freelance editor of Beyond Chutzpah) and others, a
satisfactory compromise was reached that protected the interests of both
publisher and author, and, most importantly, preserved the integrity of the
book. I would like personally to extend my heartfelt thanks to all who
supported me and the press during this difficult period.
WALK OPENLY OVER OUR , I HOPE, STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH
AND ASSOCIATION. AND RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE NEVER INCORPORATED OR PRACTISED
IN ANY STATE IN WHICH THEY HAVE HAD A POSITION OF CONTROL.
WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,imprisoned or both for
discussing the topics set forth in this article.
Israeli stats
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Jews and Palestinians genetically similar.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html
War without end
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590
Yes and you have no quarrel with the US?
They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat
physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when
the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/79400p-72974c.html
One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion??
And the chimp smirks on
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=26276
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/01AA7ECA-7018-447B-A10D-9E4139D4788A.
htm
_
American and Australian shot by Israelis
Chris McGreal talks to the relatives of three British and American victims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/16/rafah.death/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1066817,00.html
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/
http://www.thenausea.com/elements/thenotforgotten/rachel/index.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,916299,00.html
http://www.omjp.org/rachelphotos.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8853425952359751341&q=Palestinian+p
eople
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
http://www.palestinefacts.org/index.php
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/story-2003112917164320.htm
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel/IsraelsTortureBan.html
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0197/9701007.htm
Christian homes being knocked down???
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php
(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up his
church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note...If Christians
had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been
front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National
Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
Farmers harassed and shot in israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3757004.stm
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53042
Zionist settler deliberately hits and kills Palestinian old man
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_3293.shtml
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_3396.shtml
http://judicial-inc.biz/School_shooting.htm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/20deae4bed
c378ab?q=&rnum=1
In a letter to the conference host, UNESCO Director-General Koichiro
Matsuura,
the protesters said the Wiesenthal center, "under the deceitful cover of the
struggle against anti-Semitism, is on the contrary encouraging intolerance
and
racism in our societies."
Jon and David Kimche
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.
The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German
offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the
other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and the
32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German
and Austrian Jews.
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jews-not-for-Judaism/Jews-who-helped-nazis-hit
ler.htm
Marlon Brando.
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ben%20stein%20on%20jewish%20media%20control.ht
m
If one wants to exterminate an entire race, one would start with the leaders
first and
Why did Rabbi Baeck never leave the Third Reich
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim
Holocaust Calendar
Jewish dominance
Rabbi to Publish Book on Jewish Supremacy
.... One is Rabbi Saadya Grama, author of an upcoming book "On the Exalted
Nature of Israel and Understanding ... Written by Rabbi Saadya Grama — an
alumnus of Beth Medrash Govoha, the ...
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The Jews declared war against Germany
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
http://www.rense.com/general45/zzo.htm
The Zionist Jewish Role In - Causing World War II
"In 1941, a Jewish writer, Theodor N. Kaufman, wrote Germany Must Perish.
Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by
a very simple method: the mass sterilisation of all German men and women
between the age of puberty and sixty years."
From a pre-1993 edition of John Tyndall's Spearhead magazine
12-9-3
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the
order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and imprison
them in large camps. A declaration of war entitles any nation to imprison
its enemy and their sympathizers.
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
The basic question arises; what were the Germans supposed to do with their
large Jewish population?
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters1/Zundel1/transport.htm
· England's Lord Shawcross, her most famous legal mind, stated in 1984. ‘’I
have come to the realization that Hitler did not want war. It was us who
declared war .’’, etc. ad nauseum. His admission of historical truth was
subsequently swept under the rug, never to be repeated in public print
again.
http://americandefenseleague.com/whyhitlr.htm Why Hitler Came to Power:
One Rabbi’s Explanation - By Rabbi Dr. Manfred Reifer - We played with the
most holy possessions of the people and at times made fun of all that was
sacred to the nation.
http://www.heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
That second war was later made certain, not by the intentions of Hitler but
by the determination of his eternal enemies to destroy the new Germany that
he had created.
By the Treaty of Versailles on 28 June 1919 and the Treaty of St. Germain on
20 September of the same year, the German people were thoroughly humiliated.
The British Prime Minister, Lloyd George, wrote:
'The international bankers swept statesmen, politicians, journalists and
jurists all to one side and issued their orders with the imperiousness of
absolute monarchs.'
However, the Four Nations Pact was not to be. The Jews put an end to this,
for on 7 November 1938, a few weeks after the Munich Agreement and shortly
before the journey to Paris of the German Foreign Minister, Von Ribbentrop,
the Polish Jew, Herschel Feibel Grynszpan murdered the German Third
Secretary of State, Ernst von Rath, in the German Embassy in Paris. The five
bullets fired were the logical result of the Jews' declaration of war on
Germany of March 1933 and put an end to the effort being made to explain and
extend the importance of the Munich Agreement and the revision of the Treaty
of Versailles.
This assassination provoked anti-Jewish riots in Germany, with the burning
of synagogues and the looting and burning of Jewish shops. The anti-Jewish
riots inflamed public opinion in Great Britain and the USA against
Chamberlain's efforts to relieve Anglo-German tension. In the United States
Germans were assaulted and persecuted. The Jews began leaving Germany.
The Paris magazine L'Ami du Peuple wrote about them:
'These people fled from Germany because they attempted to set up a rule of
fire and blood and to let loose the horrors of civil war and universal
chaos.'
The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who later died in
mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries (Cassel and Co.,
London 1952):
'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain, father of
President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain declared that Zionism
and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the war.'
The Jew, Schlomo Asch, in a pep talk to French troops in the line in Le
Nouvelles Litteraires (10 February 1940) wrote:
'This is our war and you are fighting it for us. Even if we Jews are not
bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.'
On 8 October 1942 Sentinel magazine stated unequivocally:
'The Second World War is being fought for the defence and fundamentals of
Judaism.'
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=201
NEW YORK, Aug. 29 (JTA) â?" Since 1996, Jewish groups and their lawyers have
gone to the mat with the likes of the Germans, the Swiss and the French,
extracting $9 billion in restitution for the evil wrought in Europe by
Naziforces and their collaborators.
http://www.geocities.com/truth4ever123/41.htm
In the magazine Kefonium ;Jerusalem no 14 Feb 1982 page 49-59
Iraq that country which is rich with its petrol resources and have a lot of
internal struggles is
located in the frontline with Israel and its decomposition is critical for
Israel may more than
defeating Syria as Iraq resembles on short range the biggest threat for
Israel in the area .
No Documentary Evidence
Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a
policy or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story cannot
be reconciled with the documentary evidence.
Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work
It is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were unable to work were
immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young, sick, or weak were
supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who could be worked to death
were temporarily kept alive.
But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the Jewish
inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed. For
example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from the
chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and
Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish inmates
in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of the remaining
Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to work.
[9]
This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on "security
measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS concentration camp
system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a total
of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 were
hospitalized or disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly
the main extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of
whom "approximately 15,000 are unable to work." [10]
These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
extermination story.
The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily as a
camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and elderly, as
well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment to other camps.
That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University,
who also says that this was the reason for the unusually high death rate
there. [11]
Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
acknowledges in his 1989 book about the "final solution" that more Jews
perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural" causes than
were executed. [12]
Anne Frank
Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known around
the world for her famous diary. But few people know that thousands of Jews,
including Anne and her father, Otto Frank, "survived" Auschwitz.
The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands to
Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of the
advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other Jews to the
Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March 1945.
Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp
hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews who
were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January 1945,
shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in Switzerland in
1980.
If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they would
not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was, cannot be
reconciled with the extermination story.
Allied Propaganda
The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements
of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any evidence of
extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about
gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.
Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and
German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people
were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an
important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast
to Europe by Allied radio stations. [13]
Survivor Testimony
Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of extermination at
Auschwitz.
An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp experiences
in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was interned in
Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations with a Polish forced
laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy woman told her and the
others that they would all be gassed at Auschwitz.
Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go into
a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The terrified women
were sure that they were about to die. But then, instead of gas, water came
out of the shower heads.
Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the death
of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and quite a few
committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass killings,
gassings, or of any extermination program. [14]
A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary
in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily.
She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gas
chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing
stories only later. [15]
Inmates Released
More than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps,
and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. In
addition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences were
released, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz had
actually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans have
released inmates who "knew" what was happening there?
Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced
In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially typhus,
the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm
counter-measures.
The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated Dec.
28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It sharply
criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and ordered
that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to significantly
reduce the death rate in the various camps." Furthermore, it ordered:
"The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the nutrition
of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the administration, submit
improvement recommendations to the camp commandants ... The camp doctors
are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places
are improved as much as possible."
Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfuhrer SS [Heinrich Himmler]
has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." [17]
Telltale Aerial Photos
Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau on
several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged extermination
period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These photos show no
trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys or masses of Jews
awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly alleged, and all of which
would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz had been the extermination
center it is said to have been. [18]
Absurd Cremation Claims
Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could not
possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and summer of
1944 at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.
For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary,
Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation story
is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even 20,000
corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944 in
crematories and open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond the realm of
reality," he declared under oath. [19]
Gassing Expert Refutes Extermination Story
America's leading gas chamber expert, Fred A. Leuchter, carefully examined
the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and concluded that the Auschwitz
gassing story is absurd and technically impossible.
Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of gas
chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals. For
example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state
penitentiary.
In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the "gas
chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which are either
still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn testimony to a Toronto
court and in a technical report, Leuchter described every aspect of his
investigation.
He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing facilities
could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among other things, he
pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were not properly sealed or
vented to kill human beings without also killing German camp personnel.
[20]
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by the
Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that the
Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a careful
on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and
Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I have come to the
conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully killed with Zyklon B
[hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider it absolutely
impossible." [21]
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.html
since then and Israel consider Iraq an active threat even after it was
disarmed by the American
& British bombing for its military bases during the last decade .
Let the mind to be the judge... who threaten whom ?!

Mark Weber is director of the Institute for Historical Review. He studied
history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich,
Portland State University and Indiana University (M.A., 1977). For nine
years he served as editor of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review.
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

Also see:
Open Society And Its Enemies - The Story Of Auschwitz
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?id=2726

Auschwitz: The Final Count
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