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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" |
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09 Jun 2004 01:35:17 PM |
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Kerry flipflop on funding our soldiers in Iraq |
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops and recklessly leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of
simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible. What is responsible is for
the administration to do this properly now."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
Kerry Said He Wouldn't "Cut And Run" And Withhold Ammunition.
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
"Passage of the bill that would appropriate $86.5 billion in fiscal 2004
supplemental spending for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The bill would provide $10.3 billion as a grant to rebuild
Iraq, including $5.1 billion for security and $5.2 billion for
reconstruction costs. It also would provide $10 billion as a loan that would
be converted to a grant if 90 percent of all bilateral debt incurred by the
former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein has been forgiven by other countries.
Separate provisions limit reconstruction aid to $18.4 billion. It also would
provide approximately $65.6 billion for military operations and maintenance
and $1.3 billion for veterans medical care."
(S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03,
Kerry Voted Nay)
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09 Jun 2004 03:01:55 PM |
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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09 Jun 2004 03:15:07 PM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
Daschle might be about to become a Civilian.
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Brooks Gregory
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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09 Jun 2004 03:18:16 PM |
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"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon
our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
Daschle might be about to become a Civilian.
hehhehheh
I *LUV* it when ultraliberal Demmies like him feel pain like that!
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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10 Jun 2004 08:37:47 AM |
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"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon
our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
Daschle might be about to become a Civilian.
What will the fine people of South Dakota make of his ABANDONING THE
TROOPS????
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| User: "Robyn Lee" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:52:50 PM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
You mean like LBJ did? How about Nixon?
xoxox
Robyn
http://profiles.yahoo.com/bobbilee_trannie
Yahoo IM msrobynlee2000
ICQ 267437992
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:58:28 PM |
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"Robyn Lee" <msrobynlee@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon
our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
You mean like LBJ did? How about Nixon?
xoxox
Robyn
None of them so much as John Kerry and John McCain
though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
You're wasting your time with your bitching.
Only 54% of Americans vote. That vote is
split pretty evenly. That means only 25%
favor a particular issue. So there is a very
strong possibility that 75% of Americans
don't give a ***** about your complaint.
Brooks Gregory
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10 Jun 2004 08:39:45 AM |
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"Robyn Lee" <msrobynlee@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
news:SELxc.70643$DG4.50905@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:T0Kxc.1223$H65.1091@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
news:FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon
our
troops
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Daschel chickened out visiting Iraq!!!!
Daschle abandoned the troops!!!
Democrats ALWAYS abandoned the troops!!!
You mean like LBJ did? How about Nixon?
xoxox
Robyn
http://profiles.yahoo.com/bobbilee_trannie
Yahoo IM msrobynlee2000
ICQ 267437992
Ohhh Gawd... The fucking mutant homosexual transvestite IS BACK!!!!
Puleeeeeeze, please go away... Nobody, NOBODY, appreciates you soliciting
gay sex on the newsgroups....
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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09 Jun 2004 02:36:00 PM |
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"dino" <bozo@elvislives.net> wrote in message
news:21pec09ohm29n9dgbtpa76kobd0rjqtobs@4ax.com...
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:35:17 GMT, "300,000+ new jobs a month!"
<BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
<snipped 2003 news coverage as no longer relevant>
Bush wants to be in the National Guard, then goes AWOL after suffering
Bush was never AWOL.
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| User: "Mark" |
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09 Jun 2004 03:20:27 PM |
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In article <AEJxc.1268$eu.926@attbi_s02>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
Bush was never AWOL.
rrriiiight....just that no one knew where he was...lol
--
mark
marks@mailzone.com
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"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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09 Jun 2004 03:40:56 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-302B9C.13202309062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <AEJxc.1268$eu.926@attbi_s02>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
Bush was never AWOL.
rrriiiight....just that no one knew where he was...lol
--
mark
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
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Brooks Gregory
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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10 Jun 2004 03:06:53 AM |
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"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:sBKxc.17137911$Id.2834816@news.easynews.com...
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John
Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
If you're an idiot.
There's another guy out there with an honorable discharge, despite several
NJP's.
His name is John Allen Muhammed.
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-Mr. N
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"President Bush said in his speech Monday night that the war in Iraq is "the
central front in the war on terror." It's not the central front in the war
on terror, but it has unfortunately become the central recruiting office for
terrorists. [***** Cheney said, "This war may last the rest of our lives.]
The unpleasant truth is that President Bush's utter incompetence has made
the world a far more dangerous place and dramatically increased the threat
of terrorism against the United States. "
-Former Vice-President Al Gore, speech at New York Univeristy, May 26, 2004
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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10 Jun 2004 08:36:41 AM |
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"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10cg5kue87klsbd@news.supernews.com...
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:sBKxc.17137911$Id.2834816@news.easynews.com...
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John
Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
If you're an idiot.
There's another guy out there with an honorable discharge, despite several
NJP's.
His name is John Allen Muhammed.
More importantly, YOU don't have an honorable discharge because YOU NEVER
SERVED YOUR COUNTRY. You're a Load.
Oh, please put your clown suit and big penis-like plastic nose on and post
again about people using multiple aliases. I liked you better as a flaming
*****!
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| User: "Ihatekerie Sosuemie" |
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10 Jun 2004 08:38:08 AM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JtZxc.6075$TR1.4438@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
"Mr. N" <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:10cg5kue87klsbd@news.supernews.com...
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:sBKxc.17137911$Id.2834816@news.easynews.com...
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John
Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
If you're an idiot.
There's another guy out there with an honorable discharge, despite
several
NJP's.
His name is John Allen Muhammed.
More importantly, YOU don't have an honorable discharge because YOU NEVER
SERVED YOUR COUNTRY. You're a Load.
Oh, please put your clown suit and big penis-like plastic nose on and post
again about people using multiple aliases. I liked you better as a
flaming
*****!
LOL! Nicely put, CB.
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| User: "Mark" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:51:14 PM |
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In article <sBKxc.17137911$Id.2834816@news.easynews.com>,
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote:
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
and i guess clinton was acquited, that's all that counts...
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mark
marks@mailzone.com
~~~
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:57:36 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-DBCC72.14511009062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <sBKxc.17137911$Id.2834816@news.easynews.com>,
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote:
But guess what? His discharge says the same thing as Al Gores, John
Kerrys,
John McCains and mine even. "Honorable" "No lost time"
That's all that counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
and i guess clinton was acquited, that's all that counts...
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mark
Works for me. You have a problem with it?
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You're wasting your time with your bitching.
Only 54% of Americans vote. That vote is
split pretty evenly. That means only 25%
favor a particular issue. So there is a very
strong possibility that 75% of Americans
don't give a ***** about your complaint.
Brooks Gregory
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry flipflop on funding our soldiers in Iraq |
09 Jun 2004 03:37:20 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-302B9C.13202309062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <AEJxc.1268$eu.926@attbi_s02>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
Bush was never AWOL.
rrriiiight....just that no one knew where he was...lol
No, he was never AWOL, and there was never any confusion about where he was
either.
Take your stupid Demmie lies and shove them up your *****, pal.
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| User: "Mark" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:51:47 PM |
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In article <4yKxc.5636$jw.4932@attbi_s04>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
No, he was never AWOL, and there was never any confusion about where he was
either.
so how come not one person can attest to the fact that he was there?
--
mark
marks@mailzone.com
~~~
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:57:07 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-DA8B3D.14514409062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <4yKxc.5636$jw.4932@attbi_s04>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
No, he was never AWOL, and there was never any confusion about where he
was
either.
so how come not one person can attest to the fact that he was there?
Maybe they were not there either.
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You're wasting your time with your bitching.
Only 54% of Americans vote. That vote is
split pretty evenly. That means only 25%
favor a particular issue. So there is a very
strong possibility that 75% of Americans
don't give a ***** about your complaint.
Brooks Gregory
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| User: "John Fraude Kerry" |
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09 Jun 2004 05:38:00 PM |
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"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:TILxc.17141099$Id.2835220@news.easynews.com...
"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-DA8B3D.14514409062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <4yKxc.5636$jw.4932@attbi_s04>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
No, he was never AWOL, and there was never any confusion about where
he
was
either.
so how come not one person can attest to the fact that he was there?
Maybe they were not there either.
LOL!
We should also note, of course, that not one person can attest to the fact
that Gore was taken up into "The Mother Ship", painfully interrogated at
length by the Martians, then released back to Earth in time for his debates
with George Bush. Which Gore then lost, due to the aftereffects of his
visit to The Mother Ship.
Like President Bush's supposed "AWOL episode", apparently nobody can attest
to Gore's supposed "Martian Interview episode".
Which of course doesn't stop the insane Democrats from ranting and raving
like lunatics.
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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10 Jun 2004 08:33:31 AM |
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"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote in message
news:cjMxc.1660$eu.724@attbi_s02...
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:TILxc.17141099$Id.2835220@news.easynews.com...
"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-DA8B3D.14514409062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <4yKxc.5636$jw.4932@attbi_s04>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
Like President Bush's supposed "AWOL episode", apparently nobody can
attest
to Gore's supposed "Martian Interview episode".
Which of course doesn't stop the insane Democrats from ranting and raving
like lunatics.
You are sooo insensitive!!! ;)
You'd rant and rave if an alien ran a pipe up yer ***** too!!! ;)
Gore was just minding his own business, and buggered him for no good
reason!! ;)
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09 Jun 2004 05:34:29 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-DA8B3D.14514409062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <4yKxc.5636$jw.4932@attbi_s04>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
No, he was never AWOL, and there was never any confusion about where he
was
either.
so how come not one person can attest to the fact that he was there?
fallacy of the False Planted Axiom
not even worth commenting upon beyond that
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| User: "Mark" |
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09 Jun 2004 03:19:51 PM |
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In article <FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops and recklessly leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of
simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible. What is responsible is for
the administration to do this properly now."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
Kerry Said He Wouldn't "Cut And Run" And Withhold Ammunition.
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
true, but that pales to the flip-flopper in chief...
1. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES..."What I think the president
ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the
OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president
of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."
[President Bush, 1/26/00]
....BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the United
States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president
refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds."
[Miami Herald, 4/1/04]
2. Iraq Funding
BUSH SPOKESMAN DENIES NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE REST OF 2004..."We
do not anticipate requesting supplemental funding for '04" [White House
Budget Director Joshua Bolton, 2/2/04]
BUSH REQUESTS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR IRAQ FOR 2004 ³I am requesting that
Congress establish a $25 billion contingency reserve fund for the coming
fiscal year to meet all commitments to our troops. [President Bush,
Statement by President, 5/5/04]
3. Condoleeza Rice Testimony
BUSH SPOKESMAN SAYS RICE WON'T TESTIFY AS 'A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE'...³Again,
this is not her personal preference; this goes back to a matter of
principle. There is a separation of powers issue involved here.
Historically, White House staffers do not testify before legislative bodies.
So it's a matter of principle, not a matter of preference. [White House
Press Secretary Scott McClellan, 3/9/04]
BUSH ORDERS RICE TO TESTIFY: ³Today I have informed the Commission on
Terrorist Attacks Against the United States that my National Security
Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, will provide public testimony. [President
Bush, 3/30/04]
4. Science
BUSH PLEDGES TO ISSUE REGULATIONS BASED ON SCIENCE..."I think we ought to
have high standards set by agencies that rely upon science, not by what may
feel good or what sounds good." [then-Governor George W. Bush, 1/15/00]
....BUSH ADMINISTRATION REGULATIONS IGNORE SCIENCE "60 leading
scientistsincluding Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former
federal agency directors and university chairs and presidentsissued a
statement calling for regulatory and legislative action to restore
scientific integrity to federal policymaking. According to the scientists,
the Bush administration has, among other abuses, suppressed and distorted
scientific analysis from federal agencies, and taken actions that have
undermined the quality of scientific advisory panels." [Union of Concerned
Scientists, 2/18/04]
5. Ahmed Chalabi
BUSH INVITES CHALABI TO STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS...President Bush also met
with Chalabi during his brief trip to Iraq last Thanksgiving [White House
Documents 1/20/04, 11/27/03]
....BUSH MILITARY ASSISTS IN RAID OF CHALABI'S HOUSE"U.S. soldiers raided the
home of America's one-time ally Ahmad Chalabi on Thursday and seized
documents and computers." [Washington Post, 5/20/04]
6. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet
office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the
federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that
creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari
Fleischer, 3/19/02]
....BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the
Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an
overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and
protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation,
6/6/02]
7. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons
of mass destruction. We found biological laboratoriesfor those who say we
haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're
wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]
....BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has
found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David Kay goes in and says
we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the
weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his
henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be
hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find
out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]
8. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade,
and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this
issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]
....BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his
political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last
year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling
mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his
reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]
9. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster
out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on
Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]
....BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA ³I don't know where he is. You know, I just
don't spend that much time on him I truly am not that concerned about him.
[President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]
10. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor
Bush will work toestablish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of
four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon
dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
....BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however,
that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions
reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean
Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]
11. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The
White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats
for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new
wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already
being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence
Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]
....BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE
"Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired
by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look
at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about
weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]
12. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took
a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to
establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with
terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]
....BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush
said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to
investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]
13. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House
Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time
to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."
[Washington Post, 1/19/04]
....BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House
announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission
investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its
work." [CNN, 2/4/04]
14. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President
Bush and Vice President ***** Cheney have placed strict limits on the private
interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept.
11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two
officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of
questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]
....BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all
of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White
House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]
15. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want
to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get
me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]
....BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call
upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for
ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting
marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush,
2/24/04]
16. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all
around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a
serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]
....BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq,
for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]
17. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM...
"You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the
war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]
....BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that
Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]
18. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count
is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what
their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations
Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards,
to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President
Bush 3/6/03]
....BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting
convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to
withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an
address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post,
3/18/03]
19. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may
remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing
happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area."
[President Bush, 04/05/02]
....BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states
living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm
committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush,
5/23/03]
20. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as
an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]
....BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current
system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it
into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold singing ceremony,
03/27/02]
--
mark
marks@mailzone.com
~~~
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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09 Jun 2004 03:36:28 PM |
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"Mark" <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:markjs1-047AD9.13194709062004@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
In article <FLIxc.19365$Yd3.36@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"300,000+ new jobs a month!" <BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon
Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops and recklessly leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of
simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible. What is responsible is
for
the administration to do this properly now."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
Kerry Said He Wouldn't "Cut And Run" And Withhold Ammunition.
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our
troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend
themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
true, but that pales to the flip-flopper in chief...
1. OPEC
BUSH PROMISES TO FORCE OPEC TO LOWER PRICES..."What I think the president
ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with
the
OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president
of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."
[President Bush, 1/26/00]
...BUSH REFUSES TO LOBBY OPEC LEADERS With gas prices soaring in the
United
States at the beginning of 2004, the Miami Herald reported the president
refused to "personally lobby oil cartel leaders to change their minds."
[Miami Herald, 4/1/04]
More egg on Demmie faces! Bush just finished obtaining an increase in oil
production from OPEC, just as he promised!
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| User: "Mark" |
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09 Jun 2004 04:52:15 PM |
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In article <gxKxc.72923$Ly.33183@attbi_s01>,
"John Fraude Kerry" <BigLoser@dnc.org> wrote:
More egg on Demmie faces! Bush just finished obtaining an increase in oil
production from OPEC, just as he promised!
one down and 50 more....flipper
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mark
marks@mailzone.com
~~~
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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09 Jun 2004 10:10:42 PM |
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 18:35:17 GMT, "300,000+ new jobs a month!"
<BadNewsForeKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
Kerry Said He would Vote For $87 Billion Because He Wouldn't "Abandon Our
Troops."
KERRY: "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon our
troops and recklessly leave Iraq to - to whatever follows as a result of
simply cutting and running. That's irresponsible. What is responsible is for
the administration to do this properly now."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
Kerry Said He Wouldn't "Cut And Run" And Withhold Ammunition.
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
not a flip flop
Your argument is that Trent Lott voting against the big Clinton Plan
vote in 1993 setting the budget outlines
voted no and therefore
voted against food for soldiers
Kerry by voting no on one version, not another, did not deprive anyone
of onything,
Same with Lott
"Passage of the bill that would appropriate $86.5 billion in fiscal 2004
supplemental spending for military operations and reconstruction in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The bill would provide $10.3 billion as a grant to rebuild
Iraq, including $5.1 billion for security and $5.2 billion for
reconstruction costs. It also would provide $10 billion as a loan that would
be converted to a grant if 90 percent of all bilateral debt incurred by the
former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein has been forgiven by other countries.
Separate provisions limit reconstruction aid to $18.4 billion. It also would
provide approximately $65.6 billion for military operations and maintenance
and $1.3 billion for veterans medical care."
(S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03,
Kerry Voted Nay)
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| User: "Bob" |
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09 Jun 2004 10:39:24 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
news:q5kfc0h1g21ud052cb70ff2seh7p8u63ce@4ax.com...
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
Not a flip flop, but definately
abandoned our troops.
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry flipflop on funding our soldiers in Iraq |
10 Jun 2004 08:15:51 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:gZYxc.5295$JF6.2987@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:q5kfc0h1g21ud052cb70ff2seh7p8u63ce@4ax.com...
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our
troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend
themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
Not a flip flop, but definately
abandoned our troops.
There are a lot of potential reasons to vote against something. Kerry did
not want to deprive any troops of what they needed. He did want better
accountability of the funds than the package provided. This vote has been
wildly and pathetically distorted by Republicans.
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| User: "Bob" |
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10 Jun 2004 09:07:21 AM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10cgnkeemojtu75@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:gZYxc.5295$JF6.2987@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:q5kfc0h1g21ud052cb70ff2seh7p8u63ce@4ax.com...
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our
troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend
themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
Not a flip flop, but definately
abandoned our troops.
There are a lot of potential reasons to vote against something. Kerry did
not want to deprive any troops of what they needed. He did want better
accountability of the funds than the package provided. This vote has been
wildly and pathetically distorted by Republicans.
That vote by Kerry was politically
motivated.
Can you explain this?:
March 19 - In an interview several weeks before he voted against $87
billion in funding for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the
presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., seemed to
argue that such a vote would be reckless, irresponsible, and tantamount to
abandoning U.S. troops.
On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke at
length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering which
would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax cuts.
Asked if he would vote against the $87 billion if his amendment did not
pass, Kerry said, "I don't think any United States senator is going to abandon
our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply
cutting and running. That's irresponsible."
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| User: "Dan Listermann" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry flipflop on funding our soldiers in Iraq |
10 Jun 2004 09:56:41 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OTZxc.42$X92.13@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10cgnkeemojtu75@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:gZYxc.5295$JF6.2987@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:q5kfc0h1g21ud052cb70ff2seh7p8u63ce@4ax.com...
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give
our
troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend
themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
Not a flip flop, but definately
abandoned our troops.
There are a lot of potential reasons to vote against something. Kerry
did
not want to deprive any troops of what they needed. He did want better
accountability of the funds than the package provided. This vote has
been
wildly and pathetically distorted by Republicans.
That vote by Kerry was politically
motivated.
Show me a vote by any politicion that can't be viewed as "politically
motivated."
Can you explain this?:
March 19 - In an interview several weeks before he voted against $87
billion in funding for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the
presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.,
seemed to
argue that such a vote would be reckless, irresponsible, and tantamount to
abandoning U.S. troops.
On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke
at
length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering
which
would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax
cuts.
Asked if he would vote against the $87 billion if his amendment did
not
pass, Kerry said, "I don't think any United States senator is going to
abandon
our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of
simply
cutting and running. That's irresponsible."
If he had thought his vote would have sunk the support of the troops, he
would have changed it. He chose to make a statement that the Republicans
have distorted to the point that it is unrecognizable.
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| User: "Bob" |
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10 Jun 2004 09:59:18 AM |
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"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10cgthgba64m529@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:OTZxc.42$X92.13@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> wrote in message
news:10cgnkeemojtu75@corp.supernews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:gZYxc.5295$JF6.2987@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:q5kfc0h1g21ud052cb70ff2seh7p8u63ce@4ax.com...
KERRY: "I don't think anyone in the Congress is going to not give
our
troops
ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend
themselves.
We're not going to cut and run and not do the job."
(CBS' "Face The Nation," 9/14/03)
But Then, Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan
Reconstruction Package.
Right. Which did ont deprive any one of a bullet or a dollar.
Not a flip flop, but definately
abandoned our troops.
There are a lot of potential reasons to vote against something. Kerry
did
not want to deprive any troops of what they needed. He did want better
accountability of the funds than the package provided. This vote has
been
wildly and pathetically distorted by Republicans.
That vote by Kerry was politically
motivated.
Show me a vote by any politicion that can't be viewed as "politically
motivated."
***** Gephardt's vote on the same bill.
Can you explain this?:
March 19 - In an interview several weeks before he voted against $87
billion in funding for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the
presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.,
seemed to
argue that such a vote would be reckless, irresponsible, and tantamount to
abandoning U.S. troops.
On the Sept. 14, 2003, edition of CBS's Face the Nation, Kerry spoke
at
length about an amendment he and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., were offering
which
would have paid for the $87 billion by delaying some of the recent tax
cuts.
Asked if he would vote against the $87 billion if his amendment did
not
pass, Kerry said, "I don't think any United States senator is going to
abandon
our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of
simply
cutting and running. That's irresponsible."
If he had thought his vote would have sunk the support of the troops, he
would have changed it.
That is a lot of horseshit. Does the
Senate allow you to change a vote
after the final tally? Did Kerry ever
say he would have done that?
He chose to make a statement that the Republicans
have distorted to the point that it is unrecognizable.
He certainly made a statement. That
he was concerned about the poll numbers
where Dean was cleaning his clock
prior to the primaries mainly because
of the war in Iraq.
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