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User: "AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla"
Date: 19 Aug 2004 12:01:28 PM
Object: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars
Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire Fighters
Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in response
to attacks from the Bush campaign front group “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth:”
“Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has been
attacking me. Of course, this group isn’t interested in the truth – and they’re
not telling the truth. They didn’t even exist until I won the nomination for
president.
“But here’s what you really need to know about them. They’re funded by hundreds
of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They’re a
front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won’t denounce
what they’re up to tells you everything you need to know—he wants them to do
his dirty work.
“Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam and
awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Thirty
years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.
“As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it’s like to see
the truth in the moment. You’re proud of what you’ve done—and so am I.
“Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group
does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: ‘Bring it on.’
“I’m not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending America—then,
now, or ever. And I’m not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and courage
of the men who saw battle with me.
“And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will not
stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security – the issues that
really matter to the American people.”
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html
.

User: "TeeInnTee"

Title: Yep...Ketchup Boy Is Running Scared..It's Fixin To Get Good!!! Keep Watchin!!! 19 Aug 2004 12:04:32 PM
.
User: "A. Dulcimer"

Title: Re: Yep...Ketchup Boy Is Running Scared..It's Fixin To Get Good!!! Keep Watchin!!! 19 Aug 2004 12:07:45 PM
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:04:32 GMT, "TeeInnTee" <Cool@Texas.com> wrote:


He's running all right, running well ahead of Bush.
-----
"The only truly new ideas [the right] has come up with
in the last twenty years are:(1) supply side economics, which is a way of redistributing
the wealth upward toward those who already have more than
they know what to do with, and; (2) creationism, which is a parallel idea for redistributing
ignorance out from its fundamentalist strongholds to those
who know more than they need to.
-Barbara Ehrenreich
.


User: "James"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:07:34 PM
He can't defend himself with his mouth. Let's see the real record and not
the BS from his website. He can shoot only so many messengers. What a loser.
"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group “Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:”


“Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn’t interested in the truth – and

they’re

not telling the truth. They didn’t even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

“But here’s what you really need to know about them. They’re funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They’

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won’t

denounce

what they’re up to tells you everything you need to know—he wants them to

do

his dirty work.

“Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

“As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it’s like to

see

the truth in the moment. You’re proud of what you’ve done—and so am I.

“Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: ‘Bring it on.’

“I’m not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America—then,

now, or ever. And I’m not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

“And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security – the issues

that

really matter to the American people.”

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html

.
User: "james"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:13:13 PM
In article <u75Vc.13$uj4.10@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
James <jrapier@dcr.net> wrote:

He can't defend himself with his mouth. Let's see the real record and not
the BS from his website. He can shoot only so many messengers. What a loser.

What specific documents do you claim are missing?
.
User: "James"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:31:24 PM
"james" <fishbowl@conservatory.com> wrote in message
news:Jc5Vc.71956$Lj.42740@fed1read03...

In article <u75Vc.13$uj4.10@fe39.usenetserver.com>,
James <jrapier@dcr.net> wrote:

He can't defend himself with his mouth. Let's see the real record and not
the BS from his website. He can shoot only so many messengers. What a

loser.


What specific documents do you claim are missing?

Military, medical and FBI
.


User: "Arizona Bushwhacker"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:18:18 PM
Thank God for Bush's swift boat idiots for Bush lies,
if it were not for them, many Americans today would
not know just what kind of a sleaze bag, lying deserter
Bush really is!
"James" <jrapier@dcr.net> wrote in message
news:u75Vc.13$uj4.10@fe39.usenetserver.com...

He can't defend himself with his mouth. Let's see the real record and not
the BS from his website. He can shoot only so many messengers. What a

loser.



"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They

'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html



.
User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 06:34:58 PM
Arizona Bushwhacker wrote:

Thank God for Bush's swift boat idiots for Bush lies,
if it were not for them, many Americans today would
not know just what kind of a sleaze bag, lying deserter
Bush really is!



And you suggest your assumptions about Bush explains and resolves all
the open issues surrounding Kerry's claims and campaign of his military
service and character?
I guess in retrospect it's fine for the likes of moveon.org, Michael
Moore, and so many on the Left to suggest that "Bush lied", "bush never
served", "bush's drinking problems", etc., etc., etc. Hey, this is the
(low) level of campaign rhetoric that we are now at, as the dirt has
been slung from both sides. I'll remind you that in Kerry's own speech
during the Democrat Conventions he issued a challenge to Bush to refrain
from dirty attacks, as he minutes later, and in the same speech
proceeded to attack Bush. Yes, Bush has attacked Kerry also..... but I
for one have lost track of who threw the first or most stones.

"James" <jrapier@dcr.net> wrote in message
news:u75Vc.13$uj4.10@fe39.usenetserver.com...


He can't defend himself with his mouth. Let's see the real record and not
the BS from his website. He can shoot only so many messengers. What a


loser.


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in


message


news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...


Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire


Fighters


Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in


response


to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for


Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth


has been


attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and


they're


not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination


for


president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by


hundreds


of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They


'


re a


front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't


denounce


what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them


to


do


his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in


Vietnam


and


awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.


Thirty


years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like


to


see


the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question


my


service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded


attack


group


does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending


America-then,


now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and


courage


of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will


not


stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the


issues


that


really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html








.



User: "Liberty1st"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:28:18 PM
I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that even
Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.
"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html

.
User: "Arizona Bushwhacker"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:37:21 PM
"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that even
Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.

So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???
Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html



.
User: "Avanti_Ken"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 08:29:32 PM
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwalker@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Du5Vc.48$ml1.31@fed1read07...


"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that

even

Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.


So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???

-------------------
I don't every recall any report that Kerry did not pull Rasman (sp) from the
water. Sure he did.
Nobody ever said he didn't. That is not in question. Get a grip please.
Oh, when is Kerry going to release the X-Ray of the Shrapnel that he sayed
today is in his leg?
-------------------

Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth -

and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the

nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded

by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry

the

shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's

like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service

in

Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice

and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record

will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html






.

User: "Liberty1st"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 02:58:06 PM
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwalker@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Du5Vc.48$ml1.31@fed1read07...


"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that

even

Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.


So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???

Okay... show us the link to the quote from Bush claiming this. You can't
because Bush hasn't made any such claim.... which makes you a decietful *****
hole.


Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!

Damn, just how big of a lemming do you left wing extremist ***** holes need to
be to blindly follow Michael Moore's lies even when you've been shown the
truth?
Kindly go ***** off.



"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth -

and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the

nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded

by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry

the

shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's

like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service

in

Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice

and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record

will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html





.
User: "A. Dulcimer"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 03:05:51 PM
On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:58:06 -0400, "Liberty1st"
<liberty1st_@email.com> wrote:


"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwalker@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Du5Vc.48$ml1.31@fed1read07...


"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that

even

Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.


So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???


Okay... show us the link to the quote from Bush claiming this. You can't
because Bush hasn't made any such claim.... which makes you a decietful *****
hole.

LOL! You're getting awfully shrill there aren't you little man? I
don't blame you this whole swift boat thing has blown up in the idiots
face. It is doing far more damage to bush than it ids to Kerry.
Keep shrieking!!!


Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!


Damn, just how big of a lemming do you left wing extremist ***** holes need to
be to blindly follow Michael Moore's lies even when you've been shown the
truth?

Kindly go ***** off.



"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth -

and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the

nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded

by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry

the

shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's

like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service

in

Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice

and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record

will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html






-----
"The only truly new ideas [the right] has come up with
in the last twenty years are:(1) supply side economics, which is a way of redistributing
the wealth upward toward those who already have more than
they know what to do with, and; (2) creationism, which is a parallel idea for redistributing
ignorance out from its fundamentalist strongholds to those
who know more than they need to.
-Barbara Ehrenreich
.
User: "xona"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 09:22:51 PM
The Human Scum Known As the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
At the top of the loathsome ***** mound that is called "Swift Boat
Veterans for truth" are the following insidious creeps. They are
living scum, American Traitors, and filthy NAZI-like sub-humans, all
of whom should have all been killed in Viet Nam, as they have done
nothing since but pollute America with their most foul stench as they
go about farting in public as the living talking assholes they truly
are. They all came from vile, repulsive, bigoted individuals, and no
doubt they have produced more such human crud as living testimony to
their true evilness and worthlessness.
Rear Admiral Roy fart-face Hoffmann, USN (retired), chairman, "Swift
Boat Assholes for Treason."
Thank GOD this human piece of living ***** is no longer commanding
sailors. Now, this decaying old fart-head spends his time trying to
have a successful bowel movement, which to him is a major
accomplishment, as his aging body prepares for its final stages on
this earth. Then its off to an eternity of sucking cocks in hell.
John O'Neill spokesJERK, Swift Boat Morons for Hate
Prune-face O'Neill is living testimony that animals and humans can
produce offspring as, in my opinion, he is surely the result of some
boar, deer, goat, or pig having its way with the sow that is this
jerkoff's MOM, with two-faced O'Neill being the living proof that it
is possible for such a permutated freak-of-nature like himself to
slither among us. Another future *****-sucker in Hell.
Captain Charles (Sexually Flustrated) Plumly, USN (retired)
Once again, thank GOD, this ugly, bigoted, racist, hatemonger and full
time sack of living ***** is no long commanding sailors. You just know
that in his day he was looked at by the sailors under him as nothing
more that a jerkoff, more fit to clean up scum in a whorehouse then
command troops.
Commander Grant (MORON) Hibbard, USN (retired)
Another example of the modern NAZI-LIKE Republican Party. It's just
too bad that his bigoted, homophobic, racist, hatemongering body
wasn't blow away in Viet Nam as that would have been his best
contribution to America.
Lt. Col. James (inbred) Zumwalt, USMC (retired)
A complete human jerk, just like his father, the moronic admiral best
know for his Z grams, but in reality best known as living proof that
the US Navy is run by morons and idiots like the Zumwalts and their
ilk.
Captain George (Prune-Face Elliott), USN (retired)
When you look at the wrinkled, sagging face of this American traitor,
you just know that he is from perverted genetic material. In my
opinion, he is the scion of inbreeding as he seems to display all the
properties of a complete human maggot, his essence pure puss, vomit,
and *****.
Captain Adrian (Scum_sucker Lonsdale), USCG (retired)
I look at this X Creepy Naval Officers Face and I want to puke. He
resembles a mutated John Ashcroff with that dull, beady stare that you
know reflects a mind that comes right from the 12th century.
Of course there has to be some direction and legal support so The
Swift Boat Assholes for Treason are associated with the follow
so-called law firm
CLEMENTS, O'NEILL, PIERCE, WILSON & FULKERSON
A Registered Limited Liability Partnership of Human Scum
ATTORNEYS AT LAW or PIMPS Supporting Their Whores
WELLS FARGO PLAZA
1000 LOUISIANA STREET, SUITE 1800
HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002-5009
Living examples of why lawyers are despised as they represent and the
worst this country has to offer via the legal system as these human
pieces of festering puss go about infecting all they come into contact
with as they, like
common street rats, practice their vile ways in the legal sewers of
america that they call home.
And last, but not least, the bottom of the barrel. The human creeps
used by the above, as fodder in their lying, perverted, attempts to
morph Sen. Kerry into what they are: miserable, sexually-frustrated,
bigoted, traitorous, homophobic, racist, woman-hating, drunkard,
mentally-challenged, physically-repulsive, LIVING ASSHOLES.
Andrew Horne
William Shumadine
William Houle
Robert Elder
Larry Thurlow
Robert Crosby
George Elliott
George Bates
James Galvin
Terrance Costello
Ralph Dobson
Weymouth Symmes
Jeffrey Wainscott
Joseph Ponder
David Wallace
William Shumadine
Richard O'Mara
Steven Gardner
Robert Brant
James Steffes

xona
Shining the light on human cockroaches
.
User: "Avanti_Ken"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 20 Aug 2004 09:22:15 PM
Sounds to me like you could use a little Army or Marine Boot Camp, troll.
--
Avanti_Ken
"xona" <xona_the_troll@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c7b73165.0408191822.3c2db686@posting.google.com...

The Human Scum Known As the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

At the top of the loathsome ***** mound that is called "Swift Boat
Veterans for truth" are the following insidious creeps. They are
living scum, American Traitors, and filthy NAZI-like sub-humans, all
of whom should have all been killed in Viet Nam, as they have done
nothing since but pollute America with their most foul stench as they
go about farting in public as the living talking assholes they truly
are. They all came from vile, repulsive, bigoted individuals, and no
doubt they have produced more such human crud as living testimony to
their true evilness and worthlessness.

Rear Admiral Roy fart-face Hoffmann, USN (retired), chairman, "Swift
Boat Assholes for Treason."

Thank GOD this human piece of living ***** is no longer commanding
sailors. Now, this decaying old fart-head spends his time trying to
have a successful bowel movement, which to him is a major
accomplishment, as his aging body prepares for its final stages on
this earth. Then its off to an eternity of sucking cocks in hell.

John O'Neill spokesJERK, Swift Boat Morons for Hate

Prune-face O'Neill is living testimony that animals and humans can
produce offspring as, in my opinion, he is surely the result of some
boar, deer, goat, or pig having its way with the sow that is this
jerkoff's MOM, with two-faced O'Neill being the living proof that it
is possible for such a permutated freak-of-nature like himself to
slither among us. Another future *****-sucker in Hell.


Captain Charles (Sexually Flustrated) Plumly, USN (retired)

Once again, thank GOD, this ugly, bigoted, racist, hatemonger and full
time sack of living ***** is no long commanding sailors. You just know
that in his day he was looked at by the sailors under him as nothing
more that a jerkoff, more fit to clean up scum in a whorehouse then
command troops.

Commander Grant (MORON) Hibbard, USN (retired)

Another example of the modern NAZI-LIKE Republican Party. It's just
too bad that his bigoted, homophobic, racist, hatemongering body
wasn't blow away in Viet Nam as that would have been his best
contribution to America.


Lt. Col. James (inbred) Zumwalt, USMC (retired)

A complete human jerk, just like his father, the moronic admiral best
know for his Z grams, but in reality best known as living proof that
the US Navy is run by morons and idiots like the Zumwalts and their
ilk.

Captain George (Prune-Face Elliott), USN (retired)

When you look at the wrinkled, sagging face of this American traitor,
you just know that he is from perverted genetic material. In my
opinion, he is the scion of inbreeding as he seems to display all the
properties of a complete human maggot, his essence pure puss, vomit,
and *****.


Captain Adrian (Scum_sucker Lonsdale), USCG (retired)

I look at this X Creepy Naval Officers Face and I want to puke. He
resembles a mutated John Ashcroff with that dull, beady stare that you
know reflects a mind that comes right from the 12th century.

Of course there has to be some direction and legal support so The
Swift Boat Assholes for Treason are associated with the follow
so-called law firm

CLEMENTS, O'NEILL, PIERCE, WILSON & FULKERSON

A Registered Limited Liability Partnership of Human Scum
ATTORNEYS AT LAW or PIMPS Supporting Their Whores
WELLS FARGO PLAZA
1000 LOUISIANA STREET, SUITE 1800
HOUSTON, TEXAS 77002-5009

Living examples of why lawyers are despised as they represent and the
worst this country has to offer via the legal system as these human
pieces of festering puss go about infecting all they come into contact
with as they, like
common street rats, practice their vile ways in the legal sewers of
america that they call home.


And last, but not least, the bottom of the barrel. The human creeps
used by the above, as fodder in their lying, perverted, attempts to
morph Sen. Kerry into what they are: miserable, sexually-frustrated,
bigoted, traitorous, homophobic, racist, woman-hating, drunkard,
mentally-challenged, physically-repulsive, LIVING ASSHOLES.


Andrew Horne
William Shumadine
William Houle
Robert Elder
Larry Thurlow
Robert Crosby
George Elliott
George Bates
James Galvin
Terrance Costello
Ralph Dobson
Weymouth Symmes
Jeffrey Wainscott
Joseph Ponder
David Wallace
William Shumadine
Richard O'Mara
Steven Gardner
Robert Brant
James Steffes


xona
Shining the light on human cockroaches

.




User: "AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:43:34 PM
Arizona Bushwhacker wrote:


"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that even
Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.


So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???

Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!

I don't think any of them believe the Bush lies, they're only playing the game.


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html



.

User: "Bryan"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 06:37:18 PM
Arizona Bushwhacker wrote:

"Liberty1st" <liberty1st_@email.com> wrote in message
news:TumdnWU6-Li2frncRVn-sw@comcast.com...


I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that even
Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.



So you are telling us that Bush's lie about how Kerry
never pulled Rasman out of the water is true???

Damn, just how fucking blind and stupid does a
Bush supporter need to be to believe these Bush lies!



You and your adjectives! I missed the part where Bush "lied" about how
Kerry pulled Rasman out of the water.

"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in


message


news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...


Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire


Fighters


Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in


response


to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for


Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth


has been


attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and


they're


not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination


for


president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by


hundreds


of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.


They'


re a


front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't


denounce


what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them


to


do


his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in


Vietnam


and


awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.


Thirty


years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like


to


see


the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question


my


service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded


attack


group


does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending


America-then,


now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and


courage


of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will


not


stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the


issues


that


really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html








.


User: "AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:42:33 PM
Liberty1st wrote:

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that even
Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.

Liar.


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html

.
User: "Liberty1st"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 02:58:48 PM
"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dE5Vc.810$9d6.591@attbi_s54...

Liberty1st wrote:

I note he didn't dispute what they say and I note you don't note that

even

Kerry says the AWOL claim at Bush is bogus.


Liar.

Yes, you certainly are.
I think you need to be put on ignore. You offer nothing to any
conversation. Buh-bye!


"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the

nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record

will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html


.



User: "Avanti_Ken"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:14:59 PM
Why doesn't Kerry just tell the truth? I guess he can't. Then he would
just prove himself to be a liar.
--
Avanti_Ken
"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas. They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my
service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html

.
User: "Arizona Bushwhacker"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 19 Aug 2004 12:39:34 PM
"Avanti_Ken" <KMatson-remove-@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ne5Vc.39624$4s6.18491@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

Why doesn't Kerry just tell the truth? I guess he can't. Then he would
just prove himself to be a liar.

Tell me again the Bush lie about how the only reason
Rasman was in the water is because he fell out of
Kerry's boat. That Bush lie is one of my favorite!

--
Avanti_Ken

"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

message

news:I15Vc.189413$eM2.92477@attbi_s51...

Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth - and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the
shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in
Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html



.
User: "Avanti_Ken"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 20 Aug 2004 09:15:48 PM
"Arizona Bushwhacker" <azbushwalker@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Hw5Vc.49$ml1.16@fed1read07...


"Avanti_Ken" <KMatson-remove-@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ne5Vc.39624$4s6.18491@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...

Why doesn't Kerry just tell the truth? I guess he can't. Then he would
just prove himself to be a liar.


Tell me again the Bush lie about how the only reason
Rasman was in the water is because he fell out of
Kerry's boat. That Bush lie is one of my favorite!

============================
Rasman will tell you that he doesn't know how he got into the water. It
wasn't from the mine because it didn't hit Kerry's boat. He may have fallen
overboard when he jumped away from the nearby blast or he may have fallen
overboard when Kerry accelerated away from the scene. Rasman doesn't know.
It is clear that Kerry came back and pulled him from the water as the other
boats were helping fellows from the boat that hit the mine, several of whom
were badly injured.
The only part of Kerry's story that is in doubt is that they were receiving
small arm's fire from the shore.
The commanders of the other three boats and many of the crew said that there
was no small arms fire from the enemy. No boats were damaged from small
arms fire and no one was hit. Only the one boat which hit an under water
mine was damaged and it's crewmen hurt.
That is the facts from multiple Vets. How you say this is a Bush lie is
beyond me.
--
Avanti_Ken
=============

"AWOL Coward GW Chimpzilla" <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote in

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Boston, MA - During a speech at the International Association of Fire

Fighters

Convention today, Senator John Kerry made the following statement in

response

to attacks from the Bush campaign front group "Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth:"


"Over the last week or so, a group called Swift Boat Veterans for

Truth

has been

attacking me. Of course, this group isn't interested in the truth -

and

they're

not telling the truth. They didn't even exist until I won the

nomination

for

president.

"But here's what you really need to know about them. They're funded

by

hundreds

of thousands of dollars from a Republican contributor out of Texas.

They'

re a

front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't

denounce

what they're up to tells you everything you need to know-he wants them

to

do

his dirty work.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports documented my service in

Vietnam

and

awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

Thirty

years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry

the

shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam.

"As firefighters you risk your lives every day. You know what it's

like

to

see

the truth in the moment. You're proud of what you've done-and so am I.

"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question

my

service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded

attack

group

does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service

in

Vietnam, here is my answer: 'Bring it on.'

"I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending

America-then,

now, or ever. And I'm not going to let anyone attack the sacrifice

and

courage

of the men who saw battle with me.

"And let me make this commitment today: their lies about my record

will

not

stop me from fighting for jobs, health care, and our security - the

issues

that

really matter to the American people."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0819b.html






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User: "Kilgore Trout"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 20 Aug 2004 10:28:17 PM
"Avanti_Ken" <KMatson-remove-@cfl.rr.com> wrote in
news:ofyVc.21824$PG2.3528372@twister.tampabay.rr.com:

The only part of Kerry's story that is in doubt is that they were
receiving small arm's fire from the shore.
The commanders of the other three boats and many of the crew said that
there was no small arms fire from the enemy.

From John Kerry's Bronze Star Recommendation:
"He immediately turned his boat around to assist the man in the water, who
by this time was receiving sniper fire from the river banks."
Down at the bottom of that form, underneath "I certify that the facts
contained herein are known to me" is the signature of Kerry's Commanding
Officer, G.M. Elliot who now, 35 years later, claims there was no hostile
fire.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/bronze_star_recommendation.pdf
No boats were damaged

from small arms fire and no one was hit. Only the one boat which hit
an under water mine was damaged and it's crewmen hurt.

Kerry was wounded by the mine blast that day was he not? I believe that
was the event where he had shrapnel in his arm while he was pulling Rassman
from the water.
Also, the New York Times reports today that Thurlow's boat had bullet holes
in it according to a damage assessment report. He now claims that the
bullet holes were from a previous event. As far as I know he has offered
no evidence to support that claim.
.
User: "Agathena"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 20 Aug 2004 10:44:12 PM
Kilgore Trout wrote:

"Avanti_Ken" <KMatson-remove-@cfl.rr.com> wrote in
news:ofyVc.21824$PG2.3528372@twister.tampabay.rr.com:


The only part of Kerry's story that is in doubt is that they were
receiving small arm's fire from the shore.
The commanders of the other three boats and many of the crew said that
there was no small arms fire from the enemy.



From John Kerry's Bronze Star Recommendation:

"He immediately turned his boat around to assist the man in the water, who
by this time was receiving sniper fire from the river banks."

Down at the bottom of that form, underneath "I certify that the facts
contained herein are known to me" is the signature of Kerry's Commanding
Officer, G.M. Elliot who now, 35 years later, claims there was no hostile
fire.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/bronze_star_recommendation.pdf

No boats were damaged

There were 3 bullet holes in one boat.


from small arms fire and no one was hit. Only the one boat which hit
an under water mine was damaged and it's crewmen hurt.


The boats were underfire according to documents obtained by
the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html


Kerry was wounded by the mine blast that day was he not? I believe that
was the event where he had shrapnel in his arm while he was pulling Rassman
from the water.

Also, the New York Times reports today that Thurlow's boat had bullet holes
in it according to a damage assessment report. He now claims that the
bullet holes were from a previous event. As far as I know he has offered
no evidence to support that claim.

.
User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars 20 Aug 2004 10:50:54 PM

Subject: Re: Kerry Slams Bush's Swift Boat Liars
From: Agathena


Date: 8/20/2004 11:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <gyzVc.168466$gE.166149@pd7tw3no>



Kilgore Trout wrote:

"Avanti_Ken" <KMatson-remove-@cfl.rr.com> wrote in
news:ofyVc.21824$PG2.3528372@twister.tampabay.rr.com:


The only part of Kerry's story that is in doubt is that they were
receiving small arm's fire from the shore.
The commanders of the other three boats and many of the crew said that
there was no small arms fire from the enemy.



From John Kerry's Bronze Star Recommendation:

"He immediately turned his boat around to assist the man in the water, who
by this time was receiving sniper fire from the river banks."

Down at the bottom of that form, underneath "I certify that the facts
contained herein are known to me" is the signature of Kerry's Commanding
Officer, G.M. Elliot who now, 35 years later, claims there was no hostile
fire.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/bronze_star_recommendation.pdf

No boats were damaged


There were 3 bullet holes in one boat.

How do you know that? They did not make reports like that. Oniel is a liar.
I am sure those boats were plenty shot up over time. Hell the aircraft in out
unit routinely were patched for bullets. IT was nothing that got reported.


from small arms fire and no one was hit. Only the one boat which hit
an under water mine was damaged and it's crewmen hurt.



The boats were underfire according to documents obtained by
the Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html


Kerry was wounded by the mine blast that day was he not? I believe that
was the event where he had shrapnel in his arm while he was pulling Rassman


from the water.

Also, the New York Times reports today that Thurlow's boat had bullet holes


in it according to a damage assessment report. He now claims that the
bullet holes were from a previous event. As far as I know he has offered
no evidence to support that claim.








Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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