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"Charles Farley" |
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29 Aug 2004 10:46:28 PM |
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Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen from
historian Gerald Nicosia's home. Many of these stolen documents
pertained to Kerry's activity at a November 1971 Kansas City
"anti-war" rally, where the assassination of US leaders was discussed.
Historian Nicosia had obtained the Kerry FBI documents over the course
of many years, using the Freedom of Information Act. Valuables in
Nicosia's home were left untouched -- only the Kerry FBI documents
were stolen.
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
Kerry recently attempted to deny he was at the Kansas City meeting,
but some of the remaining FBI documents prove Kerry was there, where
assassination of US leaders was discussed.
A recent Washington Post article discusses some of the content in the
FBI files, which have escaped theft:
According to FBI records first released to Nicosia, Kerry
sometimes expressed fairly radical points of view. For example,
he described North Vietnamese Communist leader Ho Chi Minh as
"the George Washington of Vietnam."
The FBI kept careful tabs on the protesters through a network
of informers, who tracked Kerry's movements. The FBI records
help to disprove a long-standing claim by Kerry that he resigned
from the Vietnam Veterans Against the War leadership in the summer
of 1971, before the organization began to flirt with proposals
for radical civil disobedience and even violence.
The FBI records also show that Kerry was present for a
particularly contentious meeting in Kansas City, Mo., in November
1971, at which plans were discussed for the assassination or
kidnapping of government officials or the takeover of the Statue
of Liberty.
Told about the FBI records earlier this year, Kerry said through
a spokesman that he now accepted he must have been in Kansas City
for the November meeting.
"There was no way he would have forgotten about being in Kansas
City," said Nicosia, who is generally sympathetic to Kerry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39956-2004Aug27.html
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"I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat
to our country."
- John Edwards
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html
"I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
- John Kerry
"I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."
- John Kerry
The John Kerry Timeline:
http://www.thenewsoldierbook.com/_wsn/page3.html
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| User: "dkat" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
29 Aug 2004 11:30:46 PM |
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"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a12aa624.0408291946.277839c1@posting.google.com...
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen.......
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
And HOW exactly did Kerry steal these papers? Given that they are all
copies I'm sure you and your wingnuts can get them again from the FBI and
find the deep dark secret that Kerry snuck into the house to steal and save
himself from.... Oh wait! You can't! BECAUSE this Prez and VP have made
this the most secretive administration ever and you can no longer get
government papers unless it hurts the other guy and I can GUARANTEE that
these papers won't hurt Kerry or they would have already been leaked.
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| User: "Charles Farley" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
30 Aug 2004 06:24:47 AM |
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"dkat" <dspmkat@hotmail.com> wrote
Charles Farley wrote
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen from
historian Gerald Nicosia's home. Many of these stolen documents
pertained to Kerry's activity at a November 1971 Kansas City
"anti-war" rally, where the assassination of US leaders was discussed.
Historian Nicosia had obtained the Kerry FBI documents over the course
of many years, using the Freedom of Information Act. Valuables in
Nicosia's home were left untouched -- only the Kerry FBI documents
were stolen.
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
And HOW exactly did Kerry steal these papers?
Ask him.
Given that they are all copies I'm sure you and your wingnuts
can get them again
This historian, Nicosia, spent over 10 years tracking down these
Kerry documents, and someone stole 14 boxes of them.
Perhaps you've heard of something called "scholarly research,"
which involves more time than buying a Coke from a soda machine.
This was the life's work of Nicosia, and it was stolen last March
for fear the information would become public.
Kerry recently attempted to deny he was at the Kansas City meeting,
but some of the remaining FBI documents prove Kerry was there, where
assassination of US leaders was discussed.
A recent Washington Post article discusses some of the content in the
FBI files, which have escaped theft:
According to FBI records first released to Nicosia, Kerry
sometimes expressed fairly radical points of view. For example,
he described North Vietnamese Communist leader Ho Chi Minh as
"the George Washington of Vietnam."
The FBI kept careful tabs on the protesters through a network
of informers, who tracked Kerry's movements. The FBI records
help to disprove a long-standing claim by Kerry that he resigned
from the Vietnam Veterans Against the War leadership in the summer
of 1971, before the organization began to flirt with proposals
for radical civil disobedience and even violence.
The FBI records also show that Kerry was present for a
particularly contentious meeting in Kansas City, Mo., in November
1971, at which plans were discussed for the assassination or
kidnapping of government officials or the takeover of the Statue
of Liberty.
Told about the FBI records earlier this year, Kerry said through
a spokesman that he now accepted he must have been in Kansas City
for the November meeting.
"There was no way he would have forgotten about being in Kansas
City," said Nicosia, who is generally sympathetic to Kerry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39956-2004Aug27.html
---
"I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat
to our country."
- John Edwards
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html
"I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
- John Kerry
"I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."
- John Kerry
The John Kerry Timeline:
http://www.thenewsoldierbook.com/_wsn/page3.html
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| User: "Zell, the Cue Card Reader" |
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| Title: Re: Did Bush Steal Vietnam Files from Historian? |
29 Aug 2004 11:45:10 PM |
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In article <W3yYc.12380$Es2.6992608@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>, says...
"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a12aa624.0408291946.277839c1@posting.google.com...
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen.......
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
And HOW exactly did Kerry steal these papers? Given that they are all
copies I'm sure you and your wingnuts can get them again from the FBI and
find the deep dark secret that Kerry snuck into the house to steal and save
himself from.... Oh wait! You can't! BECAUSE this Prez and VP have made
this the most secretive administration ever and you can no longer get
government papers unless it hurts the other guy and I can GUARANTEE that
these papers won't hurt Kerry or they would have already been leaked.
It could just as easily been Bush himself, wasn't that the same day
he was supposedly attacked by a pretzel?
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"FACT: Zell Miller Lauded John Kerry as an Authentic American Hero
"My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you
one of this nation's authentic heroes, one of this
party's best-known and greatest leaders -- and a
good friend. He was once a lieutenant governor -
but he didn't stay in that office 16 years, like
someone else I know. It just took two years before
the people of Massachusetts moved him into the
United States Senate in 1984. --
U.S. Senator Zell Miller (Remarks to the Democratic
Party of Georgia Jefferson Jackson Dinner 2001)
FACT: Zell Miller Said John Kerry Worked to
Strengthen Our Military; Fought for Balanced
Budgets
"In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has
fought against government waste and worked hard
to bring some accountability to Washington. Early
in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to
the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill,
and he fought for balanced budgets before it was
considered politically correct for Democrats to do
so. John has worked to strengthen our military,
reform public education, boost the economy and
protect the environment."
-- U.S. Senator Zell Miller (Remarks to the
Democratic Party of Georgia Jefferson Jackson
Dinner 2001)"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/04/167.html
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| User: "Bowser" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
30 Aug 2004 12:15:43 AM |
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No one said that Kerry stole the papers...
Do you know of ANYONE not being to get ANYTHING under FOIA?
"dkat" <dspmkat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:W3yYc.12380$Es2.6992608@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a12aa624.0408291946.277839c1@posting.google.com...
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen.......
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
And HOW exactly did Kerry steal these papers? Given that they are all
copies I'm sure you and your wingnuts can get them again from the FBI and
find the deep dark secret that Kerry snuck into the house to steal and
save
himself from.... Oh wait! You can't! BECAUSE this Prez and VP have made
this the most secretive administration ever and you can no longer get
government papers unless it hurts the other guy and I can GUARANTEE that
these papers won't hurt Kerry or they would have already been leaked.
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| User: "Bye Bye Bush" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
30 Aug 2004 01:25:14 AM |
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"Bowser" <DaBowser@Bowser.Org> wrote in
news:4132b8fb$1_4@news.athenanews.com:
No one said that Kerry stole the papers...
Do you know of ANYONE not being to get ANYTHING under FOIA?
Yea, anyone looking for proof that Bush wasn't AWOL.
--
"It's interesting. I see all these political ads and all these
commentators say it's our job as Americans to vote. Let me tell
you something, with Bush in charge of the economy, this might
be the only job you have all year." -Jay Leno
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
30 Aug 2004 04:40:52 PM |
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(Charles Farley) wrote in message news:<a12aa624.0408291946.277839c1@posting.google.com>...
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen from
historian Gerald Nicosia's home. Many of these stolen documents
pertained to Kerry's activity at a November 1971 Kansas City
"anti-war" rally, where the assassination of US leaders was discussed.
Historian Nicosia had obtained the Kerry FBI documents over the course
of many years, using the Freedom of Information Act.
Which means that Nicosia, or anybody else, can get those documents
again using the Freedom of Information Act. Therefore the theft is
totally useless from Kerry's point of view.
BTW can somebody ask, using the Freedom of Information Act, for
the list of documents that Nicosia had asked?
Can Nicosia ask for such a list?
Just wondering...
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry Stole Vietnam Files from Historian? |
30 Aug 2004 08:01:15 AM |
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Fucking liberal media!!!
"Charles Farley" <CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a12aa624.0408291946.277839c1@posting.google.com...
In March of 2004, thousands of Kerry FBI documents were stolen from
historian Gerald Nicosia's home. Many of these stolen documents
pertained to Kerry's activity at a November 1971 Kansas City
"anti-war" rally, where the assassination of US leaders was discussed.
Historian Nicosia had obtained the Kerry FBI documents over the course
of many years, using the Freedom of Information Act. Valuables in
Nicosia's home were left untouched -- only the Kerry FBI documents
were stolen.
Here's a CNN report on the theft:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/03/27/kerry.documents
Kerry recently attempted to deny he was at the Kansas City meeting,
but some of the remaining FBI documents prove Kerry was there, where
assassination of US leaders was discussed.
A recent Washington Post article discusses some of the content in the
FBI files, which have escaped theft:
According to FBI records first released to Nicosia, Kerry
sometimes expressed fairly radical points of view. For example,
he described North Vietnamese Communist leader Ho Chi Minh as
"the George Washington of Vietnam."
The FBI kept careful tabs on the protesters through a network
of informers, who tracked Kerry's movements. The FBI records
help to disprove a long-standing claim by Kerry that he resigned
from the Vietnam Veterans Against the War leadership in the summer
of 1971, before the organization began to flirt with proposals
for radical civil disobedience and even violence.
The FBI records also show that Kerry was present for a
particularly contentious meeting in Kansas City, Mo., in November
1971, at which plans were discussed for the assassination or
kidnapping of government officials or the takeover of the Statue
of Liberty.
Told about the FBI records earlier this year, Kerry said through
a spokesman that he now accepted he must have been in Kansas City
for the November meeting.
"There was no way he would have forgotten about being in Kansas
City," said Nicosia, who is generally sympathetic to Kerry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39956-2004Aug27.html
---
"I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat
to our country."
- John Edwards
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html
"I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
- John Kerry
"I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."
- John Kerry
The John Kerry Timeline:
http://www.thenewsoldierbook.com/_wsn/page3.html
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