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User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"
Date: 10 May 2004 06:07:25 AM
Object: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue
A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that the
Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry had a
modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke, and
Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated by 1
point.
The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the Iraqi
prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign ads, and
those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.
Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he also
needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad writer.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm
.

User: "Jon Cornell"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 03:41:43 PM
"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message news:<NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that the
Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry had a
modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke, and
Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated by 1
point.

You know, every single day on this newsgroup, some conservative pundit
is posting that Kerry's numbers are "slipping." I've heard that he's
fallen from even to six points below Bush; I've even heard that he's
fallen from even to thirteen points below Bush.
Sometimes someone will take the time to post links to about ten
different polls and show the extreme variance between them.
Right now, you're posting that Kerry fell from four points ahead to
one point ahead.. and of course, these are polls that generally have a
margin of error of +/- 3-5 points...
Really, what you're saying - that evidence of humiliating, degrading
and/or torturing Iraqi prisoners has hurt Kerry - is extremely
counterintuitive, and a single Rasmussen poll isn't going to convince
anyone. It's the current administration that just pretty much flushed
our chances of winning a "hearts and minds" campaign down the toilet
(or, at least, is widely perceived to have done that). When something
like that happens, some swing voters start looking to replace that
current administration.
In fact, this is about the first time I've heard of Kerry being ahead
in the polls since shortly after he became the nominee, so.. the sky
really isn't falling for him just yet.
Cheers,
Jon
.
User: "UnfitKerry"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 04:28:21 PM
Jon Cornell wrote:

"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message news:<NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...


A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that the
Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry had a
modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke, and
Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated by 1
point.



You know, every single day on this newsgroup, some conservative pundit
is posting that Kerry's numbers are "slipping." I've heard that he's
fallen from even to six points below Bush; I've even heard that he's
fallen from even to thirteen points below Bush.

Sometimes someone will take the time to post links to about ten
different polls and show the extreme variance between them.

Right now, you're posting that Kerry fell from four points ahead to
one point ahead.. and of course, these are polls that generally have a
margin of error of +/- 3-5 points...

Really, what you're saying - that evidence of humiliating, degrading
and/or torturing Iraqi prisoners has hurt Kerry - is extremely
counterintuitive,

Not at all, because this news issue highlights the fact that President
Bush is waging a war on Muslim Terrorism, whereas Clinton did not. It
also highlights the fact that President Bush has presented his SPECIFIC
plans in this regard, whereas Kerry has only been able to claim he would
"do a better job" than Bush, but is totally unable to demonstrate any
leadership skills and has in fact totally failed to list what HE would
do specifically.
So if anything, we would expect this issue to give a boost to President
Bush and reduce Kerry's poll numbers, and that is EXACTLY what has
happened, according to the Rasmussen Poll.
.
User: "Jon Cornell"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 06:58:02 PM
UnfitKerry <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message news:<VtSnc.15016$V97.1147@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
<snip>

Really, what you're saying - that evidence of humiliating, degrading
and/or torturing Iraqi prisoners has hurt Kerry - is extremely
counterintuitive,


Not at all, because this news issue highlights the fact that President
Bush is waging a war on Muslim Terrorism, whereas Clinton did not.

Everyone in the world knows that Bush is more eager to fight Muslims
than any other president in U.S. history has been.
These reports don't highlight that fact. What these reports highlight
is that Bush is conducting this fight in a particularly nasty and
brutal way.
If American torture of Iraqis swings any votes, it will swing them
away from, not towards, the sitting administration.
Cheers,
Jon
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 07:02:28 PM
"Jon Cornell"
<youareonthewaytodestruction@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com> wrote in
message news:6b8898f7.0405111558.102763fb@posting.google.com...

UnfitKerry <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message

news:<VtSnc.15016$V97.1147@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...


<snip>

Really, what you're saying - that evidence of humiliating, degrading
and/or torturing Iraqi prisoners has hurt Kerry - is extremely
counterintuitive,


Not at all, because this news issue highlights the fact that President
Bush is waging a war on Muslim Terrorism, whereas Clinton did not.


Everyone in the world knows that Bush is more eager to fight Muslims
than any other president in U.S. history has been.

These reports don't highlight that fact. What these reports highlight
is that Bush is conducting this fight in a particularly nasty and
brutal way.

If American torture of Iraqis swings any votes, it will swing them
away from, not towards, the sitting administration.

The more the war in Iraq is in the
headlines, the better for Bush in
the election.
.
User: "InsuranceBroker"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 07:46:34 PM

Subject: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue
From: "Bob" no@email.address
Date: 5/11/2004 8:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <hKdoc.939$yF6.562@bignews5.bellsouth.net>

"Jon Cornell"
<youareonthewaytodestruction@youhavenochancetosurvivemakeyourtime.com> wrote
in
message news:6b8898f7.0405111558.102763fb@posting.google.com...

UnfitKerry <T_Hines@BagsOMoney.com> wrote in message

news:<VtSnc.15016$V97.1147@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...


<snip>

Really, what you're saying - that evidence of humiliating, degrading
and/or torturing Iraqi prisoners has hurt Kerry - is extremely
counterintuitive,


Not at all, because this news issue highlights the fact that President
Bush is waging a war on Muslim Terrorism, whereas Clinton did not.


Everyone in the world knows that Bush is more eager to fight Muslims
than any other president in U.S. history has been.

These reports don't highlight that fact. What these reports highlight
is that Bush is conducting this fight in a particularly nasty and
brutal way.

If American torture of Iraqis swings any votes, it will swing them
away from, not towards, the sitting administration.


The more the war in Iraq is in the
headlines, the better for Bush in
the election.

Not a lot of the war has been making the news. It has been mostly about the
treatment in the jails. I guess that is why Bush approval is at an all time
low
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 09:49:24 PM
"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040511204634.10600.00000266@mb-m24.aol.com...

The more the war in Iraq is in the
headlines, the better for Bush in
the election.

Not a lot of the war has been making the news. It has been mostly about the
treatment in the jails. I guess that is why Bush approval is at an all time
low

I think Bush is vulnerable on domestic
policy, not foreign policy. If the democrats
think they can beat Bush on foreign
policy, they may find themselves licking
their wounds again.
This election is a little unusual. Even
though the polls show that terrorism
isn't the number one priority, I think
national security will be the most
important issue, rather than the
economy.
.






User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 06:13:45 AM
Get help.
"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the Iraqi
prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.

Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he also
needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad writer.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


.
User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 06:22:17 AM
It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.
His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to the
Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop in
the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.
As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's case.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the Iraqi
prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.

Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he also
needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 06:23:47 AM
You have severe mental problems. Get help.
"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to the
Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop in
the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.

Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm






.
User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 06:26:03 AM
It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen numbers show.
His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to the
Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop in
the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.
As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's
case.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm








.
User: "born free"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 07:07:50 AM
"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:fFJnc.4785$KE6.3813@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to the
Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop in
the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's
case.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of

campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and

he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm

Your reliance on Polls is ridiculous. Even so, your character is showing
through. Kerry ought to hope the prisoner issue goes away? Our nation once
again has shown an evil tendency regarding our actions, actions that we
hypocriticly condemn others who engage in the same manner of behavior. If
enough U.S. Sovereigns are blaming Kerry for what is allowed to happen in
the BUSH ADMINISTRATION, it is easy to see where the United States is
heading.
.
User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 09:36:50 AM
"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:fFJnc.4785$KE6.3813@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that news
story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue goes
away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's
case.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen

show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides

the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of

campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and

he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new

ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


Your reliance on Polls is ridiculous.

Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.
.
User: "born free"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 11:05:49 AM
"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
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"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
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It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least find
himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in Kerry's
case.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen

show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week

ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner

issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides

the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of

campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away,

and

he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a

new

ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


Your reliance on Polls is ridiculous.



Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.


You inability to realize that poll results can be manufactured and can
change with the wind is just another example of spin. Most readers of these
newsgroups know that when the poll numbers showed Kerry ahead you denied
those poll results. That's the neocon way. When the poll results show
liberals ahead it is the evil liberal media brainwashing us.
Now you are put in the position of defending Rumsfeld, you know he looked up
the word "torture", well well, I remember a simpler time when the definition
of the word "is" was bandied about. Now Rumsfeld wants us to debate the
meaning of what torture means.
You may find my position heartwarming, I find your position the most
sickening a human being can engage in. Perhaps the sovereigns of our secular
nation are willing to put up with one tragic policy, that threatens our
national security in the world, after another. The voting machines have been
called into question, then perhaps like with Nixon our secular nation will
have to go through impeachment proceeding.
PS
It is strange too how your candidate claims he doesn't rely on polls yet you
continue to promote them. It is a fact that when the polls show Kerry
leading you won't be promoting them and in fact will be denying their
accuracy. All that is left is to repost Rogars part of this thread...Get
Help.

"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Get help.

.
User: "Jawne Frauwde Kerree"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 11:28:38 AM
"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
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"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
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It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen

numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers show.

His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated,

thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with

that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition,

Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison

issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make

the

candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at

Rasmussen

show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week

ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner

issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are

only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week

besides

the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of

campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's

poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away,

and

he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a

new

ad

writer.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm



Your reliance on Polls is ridiculous.



Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.



You inability to realize that poll results can be manufactured and can
change with the wind is just another example of spin.

Your inability to correlate Kerry's drop in the polls with the Iraq prison
scandal is just another example of Democrat-Head-in-the-Sand.
.
User: "born free"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 12:39:02 PM
"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" <GulfstreamVbigCheese@DNC.net> wrote in message
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"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
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"born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:fFJnc.4785$KE6.3813@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who is having the mental problem, as the Rasmussen

numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated, thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition, Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make the
candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7DJnc.46803$9w2.34947@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

You have severe mental problems. Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:JBJnc.4783$KE6.193@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

It's Kerry who needs to get help, as the Rasmussen numbers

show.


His modest lead over President Bush has all but evaporated,

thanks

to

the

Iraqi prison issue. Kerry's drop in the polls coincides with

that

news

story breaking, as you can see for yourself. In addition,

Kerry's

drop

in

the polls coincides with Kerry's new ad campaign.

As I said, Kerry needs to start praying that the Iraq prison

issue

goes

away, and he needs to stop running his campaign ads, or at

least

find

himself a new ad writer. The idea of political ads is to make

the

candidate's poll numbers go UP, now down as they have done in

Kerry's

case.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm




"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:JtJnc.46802$Uv2.46628@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

Get help.


"Kerry Dropping in Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote in

message

news:NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at

Rasmussen

show

that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week

ago,

Kerry

had

a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner

issue

broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are

only

separated

by

1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week

besides

the

Iraqi

prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of

campaign

ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's

poll

numbers.


Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes

away,

and

he

also

needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find

a

new

ad

writer.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm



Your reliance on Polls is ridiculous.



Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.



You inability to realize that poll results can be manufactured and can
change with the wind is just another example of spin.



Your inability to correlate Kerry's drop in the polls with the Iraq prison
scandal is just another example of Democrat-Head-in-the-Sand.


Since you like polls here's the article of your dreams...
Bush's overall job-approval rating has declined to 46 percent, the lowest of
his presidency. ``For an incumbent to be at the 46 percent approval at this
point in an election year has historically always spelled defeat'' for
presidents since 1950, Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll,
said in a telephone interview.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=arq6KEswCo9U&refer=us
PS
Thanks to SmirkS for posting the link.
.
User: "America"

Title: Re: Bush is responsible for the Iraq prison issue 11 May 2004 05:26:06 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:39:02 GMT, "born free" <bornfree@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]

Bush's overall job-approval rating has declined to 46 percent, the lowest of
his presidency. ``For an incumbent to be at the 46 percent approval at this
point in an election year has historically always spelled defeat'' for
presidents since 1950, Frank Newport, editor-in-chief of the Gallup Poll,
said in a telephone interview.
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=arq6KEswCo9U&refer=us

PS

Thanks to SmirkS for posting the link.

The people are realizing that Bush is the source of the USA's worst problems today.
.




User: "jslater"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 01:27:02 PM
WTF are you talking about? Your link shows that Kerry has been at
45-46 since April 30 except for one day when he was at 47, and he's
been at 46 for several days. He's not falling, he's holding
steady.--Joe
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 06:20:55 PM
"jslater" <jslater@utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote in message
news:b4bed0cf.0405101027.48507e51@posting.google.com...

WTF are you talking about? Your link shows that Kerry has been at
45-46 since April 30 except for one day when he was at 47, and he's
been at 46 for several days. He's not falling, he's holding
steady.--Joe

You're expecting truth from a troll?
.


User: "someoneelse"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 10:50:07 AM
and you complete inability to discern between causation and correlation is
laughable.
Go back to sucking Rush's ***** moron.


Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.


.
User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 11:32:24 AM
So you claim, yet I notice you were unable to list YOUR ideas as to why
Kerry's numbers fell during this past week and Bush's numbers rose!
So I guess you are the one left sucking *****, not me.
"someoneelse" <iheard@you.com> wrote in message
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and you complete inability to discern between causation and correlation is
laughable.

Go back to sucking Rush's ***** moron.



Perhaps, but then YOUR inability to *refute* those poll findings is
heartwarming.




.








User: "Doug Lerner"

Title: Bush in bad trouble (was Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraqprison issue) 10 May 2004 10:34:05 AM
That's not what the rasmussenreports.com tracking poll shows at all. Are
Bush supporters turning to Orwellian newspeak now in desperation?
The poll you yourself is citing showed Bush leading 48 to 44 over Kerry on
April 28th.
Now it shows Kerry leading over Bush 46 to 45.
That is a 5 point net drop for Bush (leading by 4 to trailing by 1) in just
two weeks.
And the page says: "At the same time, public preference for Bush over Kerry
on national defense issues has fallen to its lowest level of the year."
doug
On 5/10/04 8:07 PM, in article
NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Kerry Dropping in
Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that the
Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry had a
modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke, and
Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated by 1
point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the Iraqi
prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign ads, and
those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.

Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he also
needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad writer.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm


.
User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 10:59:47 AM
That's EXACTLY what it shows, doug. On May 5, Kerry enjoyed a modest
47-to-43 lead over Bush. Now Kerry's number has fallen to 46 and Bush's
number has risen to 45.
The Iraq prison issue has made Bush's number rise and Kerry's number fall.
(although admittedly some of Kerry's drop in his numbers is due to the fact
that Kerry recently began broadcasting a new series of ads, and those ads
are starting to "kick in" for Kerry, thus causing his numbers to drop)
Kerry needs to find a way to make the Iraq prison issue "go away", and Kerry
also needs to find himself a new ad writer, doug.
"Doug Lerner" <doug@lerner.net> wrote in message
news:BCC5CFFD.3C8F9%doug@lerner.net...

That's not what the rasmussenreports.com tracking poll shows at all.

doug

On 5/10/04 8:07 PM, in article
NnJnc.4779$KE6.4030@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Kerry Dropping in
Polls" <OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:

A review of the daily tracking poll numbers over at Rasmussen show that

the

Iraqi prisoner issue has hurt Kerry in the polls. One week ago, Kerry

had a

modest (4-point) lead over Bush. Then the Iraqi prisoner issue broke,

and

Kerry's lead began to evaporate. Now Kerry and Bush are only separated

by 1

point.

The other thing that has hurt Kerry over the past week besides the Iraqi
prisoner issue is that Kerry began running a new series of campaign ads,

and

those are slowly but surely taking their toll on Kerry's poll numbers.

Kerry needs to pray that the Iraqi prisoner issue goes away, and he also
needs to cease running his campaign ads, or at least find a new ad

writer.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm



.
User: "Pierce Invararity"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 11:32:24 AM
On Mon, 10 May 2004 15:59:47 GMT, "Kerry Dropping in Polls"
<OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:

That's EXACTLY what it shows, doug. On May 5, Kerry enjoyed a modest
47-to-43 lead over Bush. Now Kerry's number has fallen to 46 and Bush's
number has risen to 45.

You're angling for a job with the RNC aren't you?
That's some amazing spinning you're doing there.
.
User: "Roger"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 11:37:10 AM
"Pierce Invararity" <lot49@postal.edu.invalid> wrote in message
news:kgbv90dasss8blajtgg3e83dhau85lhr82@4ax.com...

On Mon, 10 May 2004 15:59:47 GMT, "Kerry Dropping in Polls"
<OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:

That's EXACTLY what it shows, doug. On May 5, Kerry enjoyed a modest
47-to-43 lead over Bush. Now Kerry's number has fallen to 46 and Bush's
number has risen to 45.


You're angling for a job with the RNC aren't you?

That's some amazing spinning you're doing there.

It's too stupid to work for the RNC. That's saying something.
.

User: "Kerry Dropping in Polls"

Title: Re: Kerry's numbers fell due to Iraq prison issue 10 May 2004 11:40:48 AM
"Pierce Invararity" <lot49@postal.edu.invalid> wrote in message
news:kgbv90dasss8blajtgg3e83dhau85lhr82@4ax.com...

On Mon, 10 May 2004 15:59:47 GMT, "Kerry Dropping in Polls"
<OutOfControlDem@DNC.net> wrote:

That's EXACTLY what it shows, doug. On May 5, Kerry enjoyed a modest
47-to-43 lead over Bush. Now Kerry's number has fallen to 46 and Bush's
number has risen to 45.


You're angling for a job with the RNC aren't you?

That's some amazing spinning you're doing there.

Notice how you couldn't refute ANY of the facts presented?
That's why you had to try to play "Demmie Smartass" instead.
.





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