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01 Jun 2004 10:12:36 AM |
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KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Newsgroups:
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gress,alt.security.terrorism
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents? Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
Doug Grant (Tm)
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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| Title: Re: Hey Doug - can you back up that claim or is it another lie? |
01 Jun 2004 12:56:14 PM |
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.news-media,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.con
gress,alt.security.terrorism
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans
LOL
According to whom Dougie?
Where did you get this information?
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| User: "John Agosta" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 11:19:45 AM |
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:E11vc.109106$hH.1913409@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.news-media,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.con
gress,alt.security.terrorism
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents? Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Take xrays of Kerry and Bush.
Observing Kerry's, you'll see shrapnel.
Observing Bush's you'll see dead brain cells from partying while Kerry was
getting shot at. The more the repubs try to bring this medal thing up,
the more desparate they show themselves to be. Get over it.
Kerry fought, Bush evaded. When comparing courage to cowardice,
Bush loses, hands down, no contest.
Say "moo" DouglASS.
BTW, we are STILL waiting for the names of those that you know sovereignty
is being handed over to in Iraq. Until you produce, you LIE.
Bush Lies to the World, 5/25/2004
"The first of these steps will occur next month, when our coalition will
transfer full sovereignty to a government of Iraqi citizens who will prepare
the way for national elections.
On June 30th, the Coalition Provisional Authority will cease to exist and
will not be replaced. The occupation will end and Iraqis will govern their
own affairs."
"Show me the 28 pages. Show me the names of Saudis and Bin Ladens
who were assisted in leaving the US when the rest of the citizenry was
locked down."
-Me
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| User: "GoreRants4Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 12:12:57 PM |
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"John Agosta" <j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:E11vc.109106$hH.1913409@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.news-media,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.usa.con
gress,alt.security.terrorism
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents? Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Take xrays of Kerry and Bush.
Observing Kerry's, you'll see shrapnel.
No, observing Kerry's you see *****. Typical leftist *****. And oh
yeah, occasionally he flips the bird at some Vietnam Vet, like Kerry did
yesterday in front of schoolchildren at the Vietnam War Memorial.
Kerry is full of *****.
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 12:14:14 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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The lies and deception of the radical right-wing continue.
6 ID's - all the same person, all posting within the same day, some within
minutes of each other, some responding to the others.
GoreRants4Kerry
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Kerry the Boob"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
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Right-wingers are a plague on this nation.
--
-Mr. N
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"I believe that the president's leadership in the actions taken in Iraq
demonstrate an incompetence in terms of knowledge,
judgment and experience in making the decisions that would have been
necessary to truly accomplish the mission without the
deaths to our troops and the cost to our taxpayers."
"The emperor has no clothes. When are people going to face the reality?
Pull this curtain back."
-Nancy Pelosi, American Patriott
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| User: "Dr. Zarkov" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 02:26:07 PM |
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"John Agosta" <j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote...
"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents? Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
Take xrays of Kerry and Bush.
Observing Kerry's, you'll see shrapnel.
Observing Bush's you'll see dead brain cells from partying while Kerry was
getting shot at. The more the repubs try to bring this medal thing up,
the more desparate they show themselves to be. Get over it.
Kerry fought, Bush evaded. When comparing courage to cowardice,
Bush loses, hands down, no contest.
Fighting in the Vietnam War was more an act of stupidity than courage. The
U.S. wasted over 50,000 American lives and a trillion dollars on that
fiasco. Vietnam is a testament to just how stupid the U.S. government can
be.
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| User: "John Agosta" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 03:11:04 PM |
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"Dr. Zarkov" <Ming@Mongo.com> wrote in message
news:40bcd892$0$3111$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
"John Agosta" <j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom> wrote...
"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com>
Subject: Re: Doug says that people who fought against N.V. were h
elping N.V. - what an idiot!
So one of Kerry's 3 medals are dubious, in your opinion.
So what? He was being shot at. People were trying to kill
kim.
I couldn't care if all 3 of his medals were questionable.
Well, if they are dubious then he used lies to duck out of
Vietnam on his "band of brothers".
He gets some credit for showing up, but if he chickened
out AND lied about it to get away early then that is pretty
serious.
Serving honorably, or even not serving legally is must
superior to those who cheat and lie to get away and leave
their comrades to pick up the slack.
I guess, "He was for it before he was against it."
But that isn't as clear as what he TESTIFIED TO -- his
own behavior and the lies he told about others, claiming
personal knowledge he just didn't have and has since
recanted.
Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents? Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
Take xrays of Kerry and Bush.
Observing Kerry's, you'll see shrapnel.
Observing Bush's you'll see dead brain cells from partying while Kerry
was
getting shot at. The more the repubs try to bring this medal thing up,
the more desparate they show themselves to be. Get over it.
Kerry fought, Bush evaded. When comparing courage to cowardice,
Bush loses, hands down, no contest.
Fighting in the Vietnam War was more an act of stupidity than courage.
The
U.S. wasted over 50,000 American lives and a trillion dollars on that
fiasco. Vietnam is a testament to just how stupid the U.S. government can
be.
That the USA should never have gotten as deeply involved in Vietnam in the
first place does not take away the many displays of courageousness by
individuals sent to prosecute the war.
The actions of one man are not comparable to the actions of his government.
That is why it is possible to 'support the troops' at the same time you
protest
the fact that rich and powerful interests are putting them in harm's way
in the first place.
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| User: "GoreRants4Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 10:19:36 AM |
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
John Kerry is a fraud.
There are two pressing questions: (1) Did Kerry commit a
"self-inflicted" wound to gain a purple heart? None of his crew
saw him receive the wound although they were standing next to him
in a small boat, and the tiny scratch was not caused by any
weapon nor fire, ergo, how did Kerry get the wound? (2) How did
Kerry get the Purple Heart medal if his commanding officer did
not approve it? That is impossible according to Navy
regulations. Did Kerry falsify incident reports so he could gain
a Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound?
Yes, because John Kerry really IS a fraud.
Kerry has released the General Orders that awarded him the Purple
Heart, but he refuses to release the "application or incident
report" that requested that medal be awarded. Why is Kerry
hiding these crucial documents?
Because even HE knows he is a fraud, that's why.
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud, and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential supporters
in the Democrat Party.
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| User: "philip" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 10:40:55 AM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters
in the Democrat Party.
If you support a war and are of normal miliary service age, wouldn't you
enlist and request to serve? Bush didn't. Don't try to tell me Kerry is a
coward. He was there. You weren't, and George W Bush certainly wasn't
either.
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| User: "GoreRants4Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 12:10:55 PM |
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters
in the Democrat Party.
If you support a war and are of normal miliary service age, wouldn't you
enlist and request to serve?
Bush did. He enlisted in the National Guard, learned to pilot a fighter
jet, and served his country.
Kerry meanwhile faked "war wounds", in the hope that he could fraudulently
gain a medal.
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| User: "philip" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 01:01:19 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a
fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters
in the Democrat Party.
If you support a war and are of normal miliary service age, wouldn't you
enlist and request to serve?
Bush did. He enlisted in the National Guard, learned to pilot a fighter
jet, and served his country.
Sounds like fun. I went bungee jumping once. Wouldnt mind flying a jet.
What a rush that must be. Not exactly the same as fighting in a war though.
If he supported the war, he should've volunteered to serve in VietNam like
John Kerry did. I think that would be more important for a man who would be
President.
Kerry meanwhile faked "war wounds", in the hope that he could fraudulently
gain a medal.
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01 Jun 2004 01:05:22 PM |
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a
fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters
in the Democrat Party.
If you support a war and are of normal miliary service age, wouldn't
you
enlist and request to serve?
Bush did. He enlisted in the National Guard, learned to pilot a fighter
jet, and served his country.
Sounds like fun.
Not really. People *die* in the National Guard, in service to their
country. Why you think that "sounds like fun" is not clear.
I went bungee jumping once.
Gee, that's really swell for you, Phil.
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| User: "philip" |
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01 Jun 2004 01:25:53 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Pv3vc.927$Xo7.782@news01.roc.ny...
"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"philip" <skydog_0@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Kerry needs to release these
documents and prove that he did not fraudulently gain a medal he
did not deserve for a wound he self-inflicted.
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a
fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters
in the Democrat Party.
If you support a war and are of normal miliary service age, wouldn't
you
enlist and request to serve?
Bush did. He enlisted in the National Guard, learned to pilot a
fighter
jet, and served his country.
Sounds like fun.
Not really. People *die* in the National Guard, in service to their
country. Why you think that "sounds like fun" is not clear.
I didn't intend to downplay the sacrifices of the Air National Guard with my
sarcasm. I understand and appreciate their role for America's defense. My
point remains though, that a future President should enlist in full time
military service if he truly supports the war and wishes to serve his
country to the fullest. Bush wanted to fly planes but stay as far away from
Viet Nam as possible. If that was not the case, he would have enlisted in
the Navy or the Airforce.
I went bungee jumping once.
Gee, that's really swell for you, Phil.
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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01 Jun 2004 02:17:19 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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The lies and deception of the radical right-wing continue.
6 ID's - all the same person, all posting within the same day, some within
minutes of each other, some responding to the others.
GoreRants4Kerry
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Kerry the Boob"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Ihatekerie Sosume"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"UnfitKerry"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Jeanne Frawd Kerree"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"John Fraude Kerry"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
Right-wingers are a plague on this nation.
--
-Mr. N
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"I believe that the president's leadership in the actions taken in Iraq
demonstrate an incompetence in terms of knowledge,
judgment and experience in making the decisions that would have been
necessary to truly accomplish the mission without the
deaths to our troops and the cost to our taxpayers."
"The emperor has no clothes. When are people going to face the reality?
Pull this curtain back."
-Nancy Pelosi, American Patriott
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| User: "Mr. N" |
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01 Jun 2004 12:14:05 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message
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The lies and deception of the radical right-wing continue.
6 ID's - all the same person, all posting within the same day, some within
minutes of each other, some responding to the others.
GoreRants4Kerry
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Kerry the Boob"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Ihatekerie Sosume"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"UnfitKerry"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"Jeanne Frawd Kerree"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
"John Fraude Kerry"
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.121.233
X-Complaints-To:
Right-wingers are a plague on this nation.
--
-Mr. N
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"I believe that the president's leadership in the actions taken in Iraq
demonstrate an incompetence in terms of knowledge,
judgment and experience in making the decisions that would have been
necessary to truly accomplish the mission without the
deaths to our troops and the cost to our taxpayers."
"The emperor has no clothes. When are people going to face the reality?
Pull this curtain back."
-Nancy Pelosi, American Patriott
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| User: "J Dubya" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 06:33:38 PM |
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"GoreRants4Kerry" <GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote in message news:<c81vc.33710$zO3.16118@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
John Kerry is a fraud. [...]
Yes, because John Kerry really IS a fraud. [...]
Because even HE knows he is a fraud, that's why. [...]
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud, and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential supporters
in the Democrat Party.
*chuckle*
Well, you would know, being quite familiar with lying, fraud & deceit
yourself. Is the best thing you can think of to do with your time
posting a fake conversation between your various sock puppets?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=10bpebi5kf114fa%40news.supernews.com
You really should get out more, and interact with some real people.
You're starting to develop split personalities.
HTH,
-Jeremy
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| User: "America" |
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| Title: Re: BUSHKULTIE'S SELF INFLICTED DEMENTIA |
01 Jun 2004 09:46:10 PM |
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On 1 Jun 2004 16:33:38 -0700, (J Dubya) wrote:
"...Rants" ... wrote in message news:<c81vc.33710$zO3.16118@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
... is a fraud. [...]
... really IS a fraud. [...]
Because even HE knows he is a fraud, that's why. [...]
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud, and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential supporters...
*chuckle*
Well, you would know, being quite familiar with lying, fraud & deceit
yourself. Is the best thing you can think of to do with your time
posting a fake conversation between your various sock puppets?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=10bpebi5kf114fa%40news.supernews.com
You really should get out more, and interact with some real people.
You're starting to develop split personalities.
HTH,
-Jeremy
He's advertising the fact that the bushworshipper must have no ethics and no intelligence.
(The sensible don't respond to such trolls at all, or at least change the subject lines.)
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| User: "Dawa Housdaa" |
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02 Jun 2004 01:48:39 AM |
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You did!!
What does this make you.
Personally I am a Jesse Jackson for President woman.
<America> wrote in message
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On 1 Jun 2004 16:33:38 -0700, (J Dubya) wrote:
"...Rants" ... wrote in message
news:<c81vc.33710$zO3.16118@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
... is a fraud. [...]
... really IS a fraud. [...]
Because even HE knows he is a fraud, that's why. [...]
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud,
and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential
supporters...
*chuckle*
Well, you would know, being quite familiar with lying, fraud & deceit
yourself. Is the best thing you can think of to do with your time
posting a fake conversation between your various sock puppets?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=10bpebi5kf114fa%40news.supernews.com
You really should get out more, and interact with some real people.
You're starting to develop split personalities.
HTH,
-Jeremy
He's advertising the fact that the bushworshipper must have no ethics and
no intelligence.
(The sensible don't respond to such trolls at all, or at least change the
subject lines.)
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| User: "America" |
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02 Jun 2004 08:09:09 AM |
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"... Subject lines should be used very carefully ..."
http://sicwww.epfl.ch/SIC/SA/News/Document/Hints_on_writing_style_for_usenet.html
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 06:48:39 GMT, "Dawa Housdaa" <didmor@megatow.fr> wrote:
You did!! [...]
I did what I recommended, and refused to perpetuate a troll-originated subject line.
It actually discourages those who abuse the groups that way.
Notice that the abuser is a Bush supporter.
<America> wrote in message news:bffqb0th33tjvni47fcftvsnvqkcn6lls1@4ax.com...
On 1 Jun 2004 16:33:38 -0700, (J Dubya) wrote:
"...Rants" ... wrote in message news:<c81vc.33710$zO3.16118@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
... is a fraud. [...]
... really IS a fraud. [...]
Because even HE knows he is a fraud, that's why. [...]
I agree, but he won't do that, because he is both a coward AND a fraud, and
he's trying to keep both of those facts hidden from his potential supporters...
*chuckle*
Well, you would know, being quite familiar with lying, fraud & deceit
yourself. Is the best thing you can think of to do with your time
posting a fake conversation between your various sock puppets?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=10bpebi5kf114fa%40news.supernews.com
You really should get out more, and interact with some real people.
You're starting to develop split personalities.
HTH,
-Jeremy
He's advertising the fact that the bushworshipper must have no ethics and no intelligence.
(The sensible don't respond to such trolls at all, or at least change the subject lines.)
To respond without changing the subject merely encourages the trolls, by
adding to the thread counts.
"...accurately describe the post's content in the "subject" field..."
http://www.dspguru.com/comp.dsp/culture2.htm
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| User: "Bob" |
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02 Jun 2004 08:09:03 AM |
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"Dawa Housdaa" <didmor@megatow.fr> wrote in message
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You did!!
What does this make you.
Personally I am a Jesse Jackson for President woman.
Now that's a scary thought.
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| User: "America" |
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02 Jun 2004 09:06:58 AM |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 08:09:03 -0500, Bellsouth "Boob" <no@email.address> wrote:
"Dawa Housdaa" <didmor@megatow.fr> wrote in message news:bLevc.34887$zO3.26338@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
[...]
Personally I am a Jesse Jackson for President woman.
Now that's a scary thought.
You're afraid of not getting more US troops maimed and killed for nothing ...
Racists for Bush!
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| User: "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." |
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01 Jun 2004 01:58:54 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:19:36 GMT, "GoreRants4Kerry"
<GoreLiesDoomingKerry@dnc.net> wrote:
"DGVREIMAN" <dggrant@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Doug Says: The entire matter lends to Kerry's moral character.
How did Kerry get a Purple Heart when (1) he was not under
hostile fire, his own men and commanding officer said their was
no hostile fire during the encounter when Kerry ordered his boat
to open fire on innocent civilians in fishing sampans (2) he only
received a small scratch on his forearm that none of his boat
crew saw him receive (3) that his commander (Mr. Hibbard) has
said on the record that he did not recommend nor approve any such
Purple Heat medal for Kerry (or anyone else) for action that
did not involve any enemy fire nor resulted in nothing more than
a tiny scratch on Kerry's arm that did not even require a small
band-aid, (4) the testimony from the Navy Doctor that looked at
Kerry's scratch and said it was caused by a tiny sliver of metal
that DID NOT come from any weapon or fire, ours or theirs, and
did not require any medical treatment only perhaps a small band
aid that is used for Mosquito bites.
John Kerry is a fraud.
*****.
Ten men served with him in those boats, and nine rave about him.
Hibbard, cited above, had only highly positive things to say about
Kerry. You can't nominate yourself for a purple heart. Only your
commander can do that.
Bush said McCain was insane, Republicans said Cleland was
pro-terrorist, now you say Kerry's a fraud. You guys said Kitty
Dukakis burned the flag, you guys forged a letter to frame Mrs Muskie.
Bush supporters in South Carolina spread a rumor that McCain had had
an illegitimate baby with a black mother.
In the Washington Post Sunday they reported on the first page about
how Bush is breaking the records for dishonest attack ads.
A Republican operative explained why you guys have to resort to such
shameful smears. He pointed out that Bush just can't get his own
ratings up, so there is no alternative but to try to bring Kerry's
ratings down.
Thus you and your revolting ilk jump into the slime and start hurling
it.
I have asked you this before, but I don't recall you ever answering.
How exactly do you look in the mirror without throwing up?
I'm serious.
Do you walk up with a bowl in hand to catch it?
WHat?
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| User: "Bob" |
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01 Jun 2004 02:23:20 PM |
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in message
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Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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01 Jun 2004 05:41:28 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." <tyrebiter@commiemartyrs.edu> wrote in
message
news:54kpb05p52jujgbue65q1pmq9043ht8k9p@4ax.com...
Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was unfit
because he had been a POW
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such obviously
hatful and stupid things.
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain with the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
01 Jun 2004 05:43:46 PM |
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sC7vc.7647$Yd3.921@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain with the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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01 Jun 2004 09:42:58 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
The documentation of the events of the 2000 election are available.
Would you agree that when Bush was in trouble in the primaries against
McCain, if suddenly a bunch of Republican insiders all started saying the
same line about how McCain was unbalanced because he was a POW, it most
likely came from the Bush campaign?
Or would you assert that a whole lot of inside-the-beltway Republicans, all
of whom had signed up with Bush, started on their own speaking publicly
about how McCain was insane?
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such
obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
They didn't stop, so Bush never told them.
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain with
the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
If I see a tree's branched bending in a certain direction, I can safely
assume that the wind is involved, even if I cannot see it.
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| User: "Bob" |
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01 Jun 2004 10:00:05 PM |
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:Zw7vc.742$yP2.156@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sC7vc.7647$Yd3.921@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
The documentation of the events of the 2000 election are available.
Then it should be easy to support that
either Bush himself or Bush told his
campaign staff to say it.
Would you agree that when Bush was in trouble in the primaries against
McCain, if suddenly a bunch of Republican insiders all started saying the
same line about how McCain was unbalanced because he was a POW, it most
likely came from the Bush campaign?
No.
Or would you assert that a whole lot of inside-the-beltway Republicans, all
of whom had signed up with Bush, started on their own speaking publicly
about how McCain was insane?
No.
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such
obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
They didn't stop, so Bush never told them.
Quite a leap of logic.
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain with
the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
If I see a tree's branched bending in a certain direction, I can safely
assume that the wind is involved, even if I cannot see it.
But then it may just be a cat in the tree
bending that limb.
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
02 Jun 2004 06:43:12 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:imbvc.1083$F2.597@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:S8bvc.34570$zO3.28598@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:Zw7vc.742$yP2.156@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sC7vc.7647$Yd3.921@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was
unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
The documentation of the events of the 2000 election are available.
Then it should be easy to support that
either Bush himself or Bush told his
campaign staff to say it.
Of course there will be no documentation in the press showing Bush ordering
people to attack McCain.
One has to use one's own judgment - did all of the Republican
inside-the-beltway supporters of Bush just happen to be using the same line
at the same time on their own?
Would you agree that when Bush was in trouble in the primaries against
McCain, if suddenly a bunch of Republican insiders all started saying
the
same line about how McCain was unbalanced because he was a POW, it most
likely came from the Bush campaign?
No.
OK
Or would you assert that a whole lot of inside-the-beltway Republicans,
all
of whom had signed up with Bush, started on their own speaking publicly
about how McCain was insane?
No.
So what would explain it then?
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such
obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
They didn't stop, so Bush never told them.
Quite a leap of logic.
A logical step, not a leap.
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain
with
the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
If I see a tree's branched bending in a certain direction, I can safely
assume that the wind is involved, even if I cannot see it.
But then it may just be a cat in the tree
bending that limb.
While it is possible that a single cat could cause all the trees on a
mountain to bend their limbs and shake at once in your mind, I believe wind
is the more logical explanation.
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
02 Jun 2004 08:08:27 AM |
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was
unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
The documentation of the events of the 2000 election are available.
Then it should be easy to support that
either Bush himself or Bush told his
campaign staff to say it.
Of course there will be no documentation in the press showing Bush ordering
people to attack McCain.
One has to use one's own judgment - did all of the Republican
inside-the-beltway supporters of Bush just happen to be using the same line
at the same time on their own?
If you think it was republicans, say republicans.
If you think it was Bush supporters, say Bush
supporters.
Would you agree that when Bush was in trouble in the primaries against
McCain, if suddenly a bunch of Republican insiders all started saying
the
same line about how McCain was unbalanced because he was a POW, it most
likely came from the Bush campaign?
No.
OK
Or would you assert that a whole lot of inside-the-beltway Republicans,
all
of whom had signed up with Bush, started on their own speaking publicly
about how McCain was insane?
No.
So what would explain it then?
If I had to speculate, I would say that some
republican campaign workers did it.
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such
obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
They didn't stop, so Bush never told them.
Quite a leap of logic.
A logical step, not a leap.
So they are still dissing McCain in
South Carolina?
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain
with
the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
If I see a tree's branched bending in a certain direction, I can safely
assume that the wind is involved, even if I cannot see it.
But then it may just be a cat in the tree
bending that limb.
While it is possible that a single cat could cause all the trees on a
mountain to bend their limbs and shake at once in your mind, I believe wind
is the more logical explanation.
I see you are learning from George how to
move the goal posts.
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| User: "abracadabra" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
02 Jun 2004 12:48:10 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:k3jvc.8611$Yd3.2811@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Bush said McCain was insane
More of the word games from a leftist.
Bush said no such thing.
Actually Bush had his surrogates going around saying McCain was
unfit
because he had been a POW
I'm sure you can support this, right?
The documentation of the events of the 2000 election are available.
Then it should be easy to support that
either Bush himself or Bush told his
campaign staff to say it.
Of course there will be no documentation in the press showing Bush
ordering
people to attack McCain.
One has to use one's own judgment - did all of the Republican
inside-the-beltway supporters of Bush just happen to be using the same
line
at the same time on their own?
If you think it was republicans, say republicans.
If you think it was Bush supporters, say Bush
supporters.
I think it was the usual gang of inside-the-beltway Republicans who had
already enorsed Bush - what's the big deal?
Would you agree that when Bush was in trouble in the primaries
against
McCain, if suddenly a bunch of Republican insiders all started
saying
the
same line about how McCain was unbalanced because he was a POW, it
most
likely came from the Bush campaign?
No.
OK
Or would you assert that a whole lot of inside-the-beltway
Republicans,
all
of whom had signed up with Bush, started on their own speaking
publicly
about how McCain was insane?
No.
So what would explain it then?
If I had to speculate, I would say that some
republican campaign workers did it.
Republican campaign workers who work for Bush.
Thanks!
Bush never disagreed with them or asked them to stop saying such
obviously
hatful and stupid things.
You are saying you know that Bush
never told anyone to stop, right?
They didn't stop, so Bush never told them.
Quite a leap of logic.
A logical step, not a leap.
So they are still dissing McCain in
South Carolina?
Once McCain was defeated in NC, nope.
Do you think that the Republican Attack Machine turned on McCain
with
the
exact same message without any influence from the Bush campaign?
I don't know, and neither do you.
If I see a tree's branched bending in a certain direction, I can
safely
assume that the wind is involved, even if I cannot see it.
But then it may just be a cat in the tree
bending that limb.
While it is possible that a single cat could cause all the trees on a
mountain to bend their limbs and shake at once in your mind, I believe
wind
is the more logical explanation.
I see you are learning from George how to
move the goal posts.
The fact that the Bush campaign sent out surrogates out to attack a former
POW is an established fact. I'm not moving any goal posts
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: KERRY'S SELF INFLICTED WOUND |
02 Jun 2004 12:52:36 PM |
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"abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If you think it was republicans, say republicans.
If you think it was Bush supporters, say Bush
supporters.
I think it was the usual gang of inside-the-beltway Republicans who had
already enorsed Bush - what's the big deal?
No big deal. Just wanted George to
reword the question to make it accurate.
Something he is apparently not willing
to do.
If I had to speculate, I would say that some
republican campaign workers did it.
Republican campaign workers who work for Bush.
Thanks!
Indirectly, yes. You're welcome. Kinda
like my representative works for me.
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