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User: "Black Elk"
Date: 11 Feb 2005 07:59:28 PM
Object: Kindaweezly Rice exposed---- again.
Kristin Bretweiser, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Centre, said
yesterday the newly released details undermined testimony from Condoleezza
Rice, the former national security adviser, who told the commission that
information about al-Qa'ida's threats seen by the administration was
"historical in nature".
She told The Independent: "There were 52 threats that were mentioned. These
were present threats - they were not historical. There were steps that could
have been taken. Marshals could have been put on planes that spring.
Condoleezza Rice's testimony is undermined." To the consternation of members
of the commission who published the original report last year, the
administration has been blocking the release of the latest information. An
unclassified copy of this additional appendix was passed to the National
Archives two weeks ago with large portions blacked out.
http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=609895&host=3&dir=70
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U.S. Report Finds Iraq Was Minimal Weapons Threat in '03
By DOUGLAS JEHL
WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 - Iraq had essentially destroyed its illicit weapons
capability within months after the Persian Gulf War ended in 1991, and its
capacity to produce such weapons had eroded even further by the time of the
American invasion in 2003, the top American inspector in Iraq said in a
report made public today.
http://tinyurl.com/3p3q9
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User: "Charles Aulds"

Title: Re: Kindaweezly Rice exposed---- again. 11 Feb 2005 08:20:33 PM
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:59:28 -0700, "Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Kristin Bretweiser, whose husband was killed in the World Trade Centre, said
yesterday the newly released details undermined testimony from Condoleezza
Rice, the former national security adviser, who told the commission that
information about al-Qa'ida's threats seen by the administration was
"historical in nature".
She told The Independent: "There were 52 threats that were mentioned. These
were present threats - they were not historical. There were steps that could
have been taken. Marshals could have been put on planes that spring.
Condoleezza Rice's testimony is undermined." To the consternation of members
of the commission who published the original report last year, the
administration has been blocking the release of the latest information. An
unclassified copy of this additional appendix was passed to the National
Archives two weeks ago with large portions blacked out.

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_res/story.jsp?story=609895&host=3&dir=70

It was ironic that during Condoleeza Rice's first trip abroad as our new
Secretary of State this week two major peace initiatives broke down. First,
Israel cancelled a meeting with representatives of the new government of Mahmoud
Abbas after Hamas militants launched a mortar attack on a Jewish settlement in
the Gaza Strip. Then North Korea withdrew from 6-nation peace talks aimed at
negotiating a halt to the North Korean's nuclear weapon program.
Ironic, indeed ... but it would have been even more ironic had real progress
toward peace resulted from (or been coincident with) Rice's trip abroad. After
all, it is she, more than just about anyone in the Bush Administration, who must
be blamed for Administration policies that have destabilized the Middle East,
alienated significant allies, and led the US into a another unnecessary war that
it doesn't seem to be able to get out of cleanly.

Condi Rice, even though she isn't one of the neoconservative warhawks who
planned this war and led the nation by the nose into it, by virtue of her
position as the President's National Security Advisor, had more access to the
President than probably anyone else in our government. She controlled the
President's access to the information he needed to make decisions of great
import and scope. If the President made his decisions based on flawed or
filtered information, can he really be faulted for the outcome of events that
followed those decisions? Bush's biggest mistake may turn out to be his failure
to get rid of the people (like our former Secy of State, Colin Powell) who
served him loyally and faithfully, while rewarding those who served him poorly
(like our Secretary of Defense).
Former CIA Director George Tenet fell on his own sword in an attempt to appease
those who were calling for investigations into "how this could've happened" and
to deflect criticism of other members of the Bush cabinet (Condi and Rumsfeld).
Basically, Tenet was to take the fall so that those higher-up would escape the
fate they deserve.
The mistakes and misjudgments of this Administration go to the top ... at least
as high as Condi Rice ... and if the buck doesn't stop on the President's desk,
it's sitting on the carpet right outside the Oval Office.
Charles
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User: ""

Title: Madame Secretary - Thanks. 11 Feb 2005 10:22:24 PM
Actually this was a spectacular week.
For the first time in decades, stars are beginning to align in the
middle east - and the first faint glimmers of hope for real, true peace
between longtime enemies are beginning to sparkle. Just enough.
North Korea is negotiating. It's how they negotiate - they threaten
and defy. It's been their negotiating tactic since forever. Nothing
new. Sure, they're dangerous, but no more or less so than they were
last week.
Dr. Rice is impressive. She speaks well for the United States, to the
world.

This American is very, very proud of her.
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User: "disseminator"

Title: Re: Madame Secretary - Thanks - for what? 11 Feb 2005 10:59:01 PM
wrote in news:1108182144.141193.311930
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Actually this was a spectacular week.

For the first time in decades, stars are beginning to align in the
middle east - and the first faint glimmers of hope for real, true peace
between longtime enemies are beginning to sparkle. Just enough.

You're going to credit Rice with any of that?
Israelis are finally coming to grips with what
they can get away with in the present day and
Palestinians are weary of being on the receiving
end of most of it. Nixon should have started
pushing for a settlement in '68 by putting the
Nix on West Bank settlements.


North Korea is negotiating. It's how they negotiate - they threaten
and defy. It's been their negotiating tactic since forever. Nothing
new. Sure, they're dangerous, but no more or less so than they were
last week.

Dr. Rice is impressive. She speaks well for the United States, to the
world.

This American is very, very proud of her.

As a person who knowingly filtered intel to
deceive both the American people and the
world: She will have no credibility whatsoever.


It was ironic that during Condoleeza Rice's first trip abroad as our
new Secretary of State this week two major peace initiatives broke
down. First, Israel cancelled a meeting with representatives of the
new government of Mahmoud Abbas after Hamas militants launched a
mortar attack on a Jewish settlement in the Gaza Strip. Then North
Korea withdrew from 6-nation peace talks aimed at negotiating a halt
to the North Korean's nuclear weapon program.

Ironic, indeed ... but it would have been even more ironic had real
progress toward peace resulted from (or been coincident with) Rice's
trip abroad. After all, it is she, more than just about anyone in the
Bush Administration, who must be blamed for Administration policies
that have destabilized the Middle East, alienated significant allies,
and led the US into a another unnecessary war that it doesn't seem to
be able to get out of cleanly.

Condi Rice, even though she isn't one of the neoconservative warhawks
who planned this war and led the nation by the nose into it, by virtue
of her position as the President's National Security Advisor, had more
access to the President than probably anyone else in our government.
She controlled the President's access to the information he needed to
make decisions of great import and scope. If the President made his
decisions based on flawed or filtered information, can he really be
faulted for the outcome of events that followed those decisions?
Bush's biggest mistake may turn out to be his failure to get rid of
the people (like our former Secy of State, Colin Powell) who served
him loyally and faithfully, while rewarding those who served him
poorly (like our Secretary of Defense).

Former CIA Director George Tenet fell on his own sword in an attempt
to appease those who were calling for investigations into "how this
could've happened" and to deflect criticism of other members of the
Bush cabinet (Condi and Rumsfeld). Basically, Tenet was to take the
fall so that those higher-up would escape the fate they deserve.

The mistakes and misjudgments of this Administration go to the top ...
at least as high as Condi Rice ... and if the buck doesn't stop on the
President's desk, it's sitting on the carpet right outside the Oval
Office.

Charles


Except for considering crediting Condi
with any recent Mideast temporary setbacks:
This guy has it about perfect.
--
http://www.antiwar.com/
http://www.counterpunch.org/
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/
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