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User: "VTR"
Date: 16 Jan 2008 01:38:11 PM
Object: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy
Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy
By Emily Richmond · January 15, 2008 · 5:51 PM
At 5:25 p.m., shortly after the Nevada Supreme Court refused to give Dennis Kucinich a seat at
the debate, a small band of his supporters marched to a far corner of a parking lot outside the
Cashman Center, where supporters of the three major candidates.
Spectators soon realized that Kucinich was among them. He said:
“The fact of the matter is, NBC is owned by General Electric. General Electric makes power
plants. General Electric wants to make sure there is a place to dump the waste.”
He was talking about nuclear waste and the now shuttered Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump site
northwest of Las Vegas. Kucinich has joined the state of Nevada in opposing the dump. Thus, he
said, GE is trying to keep him off the air.
“Now the media has become an issue in this campaign by trying to determine who should be in
this debate,” he said.
The Cleveland congressman said he will fight for changes to Federal Communications Commission
law to ensure that future candidates can participate in debates. “This underlying corruption is
something that undermines our democracy. I’m asking you to continue our efforts to stand up and
speak.”
Kucinich has been allowed to participate in all but one of the Democratic debates. He was
barred from the Las Vegas debate by NBC after poor showings in the Iowa and New Hampshire contests.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/early-line/2008/jan/15/kucinich-decries-ge-media-conspiracy/
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 16 Jan 2008 06:11:41 PM
"VTR" <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote in message
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He was talking about nuclear waste and the now shuttered Yucca Mountain
nuclear waste dump site
northwest of Las Vegas. Kucinich has joined the state of Nevada in
opposing the dump. Thus, he
said, GE is trying to keep him off the air.

Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.
.
User: "Titix"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 12:47:10 AM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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"VTR" <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote in message
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He was talking about nuclear waste and the now shuttered Yucca Mountain
nuclear waste dump site
northwest of Las Vegas. Kucinich has joined the state of Nevada in
opposing the dump. Thus, he
said, GE is trying to keep him off the air.


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.


Who determines who's viable and who's not? Are the two states only
to decide who should be the President? What about the
rest of 48 states?
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 01:13:45 AM
"Titix" <nospam@spamfree.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message

Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.

Who determines who's viable and who's not? Are the two states only
to decide who should be the President? What about the
rest of 48 states?

If you honsestly don't know, you should probably just go ahead and vote for
Mickey Mouse or Superman or somesuch.
Because you clearly do not have the intellectual aptitude to make an
informed decision.
Same goes for if you were not being honest, only it's a moral rather than
intellectual metric.
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User: "Titix"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 20 Jan 2008 12:28:26 AM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.

Who determines who's viable and who's not? Are the two states only
to decide who should be the President? What about the
rest of 48 states?


If you honsestly don't know, you should probably just go ahead and vote

for

Mickey Mouse or Superman or somesuch.
Because you clearly do not have the intellectual aptitude to make an
informed decision.
Same goes for if you were not being honest, only it's a moral rather than
intellectual metric.


Oh, I thought Kucinich was the one that didn't answer questions.
Is attacking the messenger your reply? So if two or three states choose a
candidate we should stop the primaries in the rest of 48 or 47 states and
save
money, because it's over. Nice democracy eh?
Everybody in the race should be given the opportunity to present their
ideas,
regardless of their showing in the polls. Many voters change their mind in
the last
minute, besides who knows how the rest of the country is going to vote when
there are so many undecided.
A person like you would be happy with Diebold machines, if it can produce
your
candidate the winner, democracy doesn't mean much eh?
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 20 Jan 2008 12:54:42 AM
"Titix" <nospam@spamfree.com> wrote in message
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Oh, I thought Kucinich was the one that didn't answer questions.
Is attacking the messenger your reply?

So when you asked the question, that was just your passive-aggressive way
for you to deliver a message of some kind?
If you want to make a statement, make it.
Don't couch it in the form of a question - that's not only dishonest, it's
kinda sick in the head.
Try it again - only this time, when you want to deliver one of the loser's
messages - end it with a period or an exclamation mark - but not a question
mark.
That's just a wimpy way of avoiding taking a stand.
Now - I'm not telling you you should change your style across the board.
It's actually quite good that you do that when defending Kucinich - because
it's an honest and accurate representation of the wimpy, passive-aggressive
style he himself uses.
I only suggest that you do this when dealing with me - because I have like
ZERO patience with people who are ashamed to speak their mind with
confidence.
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User: "Titix"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 20 Jan 2008 01:42:06 AM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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"Titix" <nospam@spamfree.com> wrote in message
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Oh, I thought Kucinich was the one that didn't answer questions.
Is attacking the messenger your reply?


So when you asked the question, that was just your passive-aggressive way
for you to deliver a message of some kind?

You're the analist here, you tell me.


If you want to make a statement, make it.
Don't couch it in the form of a question - that's not only dishonest, it's
kinda sick in the head.

I knew you'd come around to that, doc, I fraze my question or statement any
way
I want or feel like, don't like? don't read it.

Try it again - only this time, when you want to deliver one of the loser's
messages - end it with a period or an exclamation mark - but not a

question

mark.
That's just a wimpy way of avoiding taking a stand.

Now - I'm not telling you you should change your style across the board.
It's actually quite good that you do that when defending Kucinich -

because

it's an honest and accurate representation of the wimpy,

passive-aggressive

style he himself uses.

Your style of attacking people you don't agree with is way worse, much to
the
gutter I may say, kind of zero class.


I only suggest that you do this when dealing with me - because I have like
ZERO patience with people who are ashamed to speak their mind with
confidence.

Who said I wanted to deal with you? If you don't like what or the way I
write
don't read it.
As of right now you will not be showing in my radar. <PLONK>
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 20 Jan 2008 01:46:46 AM
"Titix" <nospam@spamfree.com> wrote in message
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message

So when you asked the question, that was just your passive-aggressive way
for you to deliver a message of some kind?


You're the analist here, you tell me.

No, I'm not an analyst.
But thank you for thinking that my strengths include such a complex skill
set.
I guess, coming from the bottom 10% - you get all of us smart folks
confused, eh?

Your style of attacking people you don't agree with is way worse, much to
the gutter I may say, kind of zero class.

That may be so - but saying it won't help Kucinich scrap his way up from the
bottom.
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User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 16 Jan 2008 08:02:45 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"VTR" <Vtar@Noyahoo.com> wrote in message
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He was talking about nuclear waste and the now shuttered Yucca Mountain
nuclear waste dump site
northwest of Las Vegas. Kucinich has joined the state of Nevada in
opposing the dump. Thus, he
said, GE is trying to keep him off the air.


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.

In todays media-driven political climate, Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been
a "viable candidate"


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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 01:25:40 AM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.


In todays media-driven political climate, Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been a
"viable candidate"

If he can't manage PR as president of his own campaigh, he likely won't do
any better job as president of the entire United States government.
This kind of "victim" mentality is NOT a leadership trait.
.
User: "Hatto von Aquitanien"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 16 Jan 2008 11:37:44 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.


In todays media-driven political climate, Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been
a "viable candidate"


If he can't manage PR as president of his own campaigh, he likely won't do
any better job as president of the entire United States government.
This kind of "victim" mentality is NOT a leadership trait.

Kucinich is being blackballed. No two ways about it.
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 12:02:46 AM
"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:

If he can't manage PR as president of his own campaigh, he likely won't
do
any better job as president of the entire United States government.
This kind of "victim" mentality is NOT a leadership trait.


Kucinich is being blackballed. No two ways about it.

All of the less-viable candidates are.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 02:21:58 PM

Kucinich is being blackballed. =A0No two ways about it.


All of the less-viable candidates are.

Every candidate who's name isn't promoted by the media becomes "less-
viable". American's drink Budweiser instead of a thousand other better
beers because "Budweiser" is drilled into their brains from watching
TV.
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 06:40:27 PM
"aol@aol.com" <geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Kucinich is being blackballed. No two ways about it.


All of the less-viable candidates are.
Every candidate who's name isn't promoted by the media becomes "less-
viable".

Actually, it's the other way around.
When they lose viability, the press stops covering them.

American's drink Budweiser instead of a thousand other better
beers because "Budweiser" is drilled into their brains from watching
TV.

In truth - Americans buy those thousand others, too.
.



User: "tankfixer"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 12:41:05 AM
In article <ifadnRvFWfs2dBPanZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
abbot@AugiaDives.hre says...

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.


In todays media-driven political climate, Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been
a "viable candidate"


If he can't manage PR as president of his own campaigh, he likely won't do
any better job as president of the entire United States government.
This kind of "victim" mentality is NOT a leadership trait.


Kucinich is being blackballed. No two ways about it.

Kucinich was a guest on a talk radio show today that I listen to.
He showed a remarkable ability to never answer any of the hosts
questions.
If he were a car he would be a fine product of the Chrysler corporation
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 01:11:41 AM
"tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.cat.army.mil> wrote in message
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Kucinich was a guest on a talk radio show today that I listen to.
He showed a remarkable ability to never answer any of the hosts
questions.

That's really my biggest problem with Kucinich.
He answers questions like a *defendant* instead of like a *diplomat*.
He just keeps brushing off legitimate issues, and repeating dumbass
non-denial denials... mostly about things of which nobody accuses him.
It's like - the little man really, really wants to be thought of as a
victim, even though he's only a victim of his own short-comings.
.



User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 07:24:46 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:


Well - there's that and the fact that he's not a viable candidate.

In todays media-driven political climate, Abe Lincoln wouldn't have been a
"viable candidate"


If he can't manage PR <smak>

FFS Kaufman. Dennis is being blackballed because he's not photogenic.
You miss my point entirely.

This kind of "victim" mentality is NOT a leadership trait.

The media is victimizing Kucinich because of his looks.
He gets a raw deal.




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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 07:34:13 PM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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The media is victimizing Kucinich because of his looks.

Well - that and because he's got a serious case of little-man syndrome.
Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to bullying.
Kucinich is just such a man.
Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.
After he masters THAT skill, we can talk about a leadership role for him.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 08:09:36 PM
Actually, Kucinich is proving that he can and does stand up to
bullies. That's why I want him to be president.
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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 09:59:24 PM
"aol@aol.com" <geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Actually, Kucinich is proving that he can and does stand up to
bullies. That's why I want him to be president.

Whining about being bullied is not "standing up".
.


User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 08:07:22 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5vadmkF1knnilU1@mid.individual.net...

The media is victimizing Kucinich because of his looks.


Well - that and because he's got a serious case of little-man syndrome.

Really? Define your terms, and make a case to support this.
Give specific examples where relevant.

Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to bullying.

I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like
the tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.

Kucinich is just such a man.

As what? A kick-sand-at-on-the-beach type?

Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.

You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?

After he masters THAT skill, we can talk about a leadership role for him.

WTF are you on about? Are you saying that if Dennis K learns to fight
like Jackie Chan you'd vote for him?



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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 17 Jan 2008 09:58:17 PM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to
bullying.


I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like the
tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.

Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.


You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?

It's kinda sad for garbage like you to STILL think the unelectable
Republicans are the ONLY choices.
.
User: "tankfixer"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 12:42:27 AM
In article <ttVjj.88287$YL5.34483@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
bucky@kaufman.net says...

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5vag6jF1liabiU1@mid.individual.net...

Sanders Kaufman wrote:


Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to
bullying.


I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like the
tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.


Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.


You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?


It's kinda sad for garbage like you to STILL think the unelectable
Republicans are the ONLY choices.

IIRC Defendo whould consider Stalin and Lennin to right to vote for....
.
User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 07:57:29 PM
tankfixer wrote:

In article <ttVjj.88287$YL5.34483@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
bucky@kaufman.net says...

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:5vag6jF1liabiU1@mid.individual.net...

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to
bullying.

I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like the
tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.

Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.

You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?

It's kinda sad for garbage like you to STILL think the unelectable
Republicans are the ONLY choices.


IIRC Defendo whould consider Stalin and Lennin to right to vote for....

I'd have voted for John Lennon.
O:-)
.
User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 08:25:53 PM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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I'd have voted for John Lennon.

Currently - he's better qualified than Kucinich.
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User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 09:14:48 PM
Sanders Kaufman wrote:

"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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I'd have voted for John Lennon.


Currently - he's better qualified than Kucinich.

But not so well qualified as Vladimir Illich
;D


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User: "Sanders Kaufman"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 18 Jan 2008 10:01:02 PM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Currently - he's better qualified than Kucinich.


But not so well qualified as Vladimir Illich

That's just because Vlad was willing to do the paperwork.
.



User: "tankfixer"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 24 Jan 2008 05:30:59 PM
In article <5vd401F1jbu3nU2@mid.individual.net>,

says...

tankfixer wrote:

In article <ttVjj.88287$YL5.34483@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
bucky@kaufman.net says...

"Defendario" <

> wrote in message
news:5vag6jF1liabiU1@mid.individual.net...

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to
bullying.

I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like the
tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.

Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.

You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?

It's kinda sad for garbage like you to STILL think the unelectable
Republicans are the ONLY choices.


IIRC Defendo whould consider Stalin and Lennin to right to vote for....


I'd have voted for John Lennon.

Thanks for backing my point up.
.
User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 24 Jan 2008 09:38:23 PM
tankfixer wrote:

In article <5vd401F1jbu3nU2@mid.individual.net>,


says...

tankfixer wrote:

In article <ttVjj.88287$YL5.34483@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
bucky@kaufman.net says...

"Defendario" <

> wrote in message
news:5vag6jF1liabiU1@mid.individual.net...

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Bullies tend to gravitate toward those who are most suceptible to
bullying.

I hadn't noticed this effect. In my experience, bullies tend to like the
tuffgui. Raw power impresses the bully, and they tend to follow the
powerful.

Me - I want a president who, at least, can stand up for his own self.

You think that we need Chuckie Norris, then? Ah-Nold?

It's kinda sad for garbage like you to STILL think the unelectable
Republicans are the ONLY choices.

IIRC Defendo whould consider Stalin and Lennin to right to vote for....

I'd have voted for John Lennon.


Thanks for backing my point up.

Go borrow a sense of humor from someone Toilet-tanker.
I'll stack my patriotism against yours any day.
.











User: ""

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 16 Jan 2008 01:43:57 PM
Believe it or not, Kucinich comes out as people's first pick when they
go choose based on issues rather than star-studded personalities the
media is feeding America.
YOU CHOOSE:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/
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User: "Richard43"

Title: Re: Kucinich decries GE-media conspiracy 16 Jan 2008 03:04:18 PM
On Jan 16, 11:43=A0am, "a...@aol.com" <gene...@gmail.com> wrote:

Believe it or not, Kucinich comes out as people's first pick when they
go choose based on issues rather than star-studded personalities the
media is feeding America.

YOU CHOOSE:http://www.dehp.net/candidate/

You're right! Kucinich did come out on top with Gravel 2nd!
Great way to synthecize the issues. Thanks!
.



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