Politics > Politics-USA > Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels]
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"Stan de SD" |
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19 Apr 2006 06:13:23 AM |
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Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
"Atom Bomb" <never@bush.net> wrote in message
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$70.88: The price of a barrel of oil yesterday, a new intraday high, and
"about 60 cents more than the (non-inflation-adjusted) record set just
after
Katrina." In Los Angeles, "motorists had to fork over $3.35 a gallon on
Monday" for self-serve regular.
Bush had Katrina to blame for the last Arab spike.
Why isn't Bush doing his job?
Once again, I challenge you: show me that magical lever that allows Bush,
Cheney, Halliburton or your bogeyman du jour to arbitrarily set gasoline
prices. Several other posters in Usenet have posted various factors that
have contributed to the current spike in gas prices: increased demand due to
double-digit economic growth in China and India, the lack of refining
capacity and redundancy in the US, where even brief shutdowns or upsets
result in tight supplies, the fanatical resistance to extracting our own
known reserves in places such as ANWR, the lack of any serious alternative
to fossil fuel use in large-scale power generation due the hysterical
opposition of the eco-kooks and the left to nuclear power plants. Like every
other idiotic Lefty Liberal or Democrat who pisses and moans over the issue,
you have NO realistic solution or alternative to the problem. All you and
your ilk can do is act like immature, ignorant babies and blame Bush for all
the problems of the world, such as not providing a government-appointed
nanny to feed you and wipe your ***** as you go through life... :O|
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| User: "David Olsen" |
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| Title: Nazi NeoCons ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
20 Apr 2006 06:21:33 PM |
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True!
Blind trust in Bush and what Fox tells them to think.
Weak minded Nazi NeoCons can't think on their own.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
21 Apr 2006 01:38:06 PM |
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"David Olsen" <davidolsen@aol.com> wrote in message
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True!
Blind trust in Bush and what Fox tells them to think.
Weak minded Nazi NeoCons can't think on their own.
I see you couldn't answer my question, you ignorant *****. Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
23 Apr 2006 09:35:55 AM |
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"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
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"David Olsen" <davidolsen@aol.com> wrote in message
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True!
Blind trust in Bush and what Fox tells them to think.
Weak minded Nazi NeoCons can't think on their own.
I see you couldn't answer my question, you ignorant *****. Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
******
Be careful here, be very careful...you're asking Moonbats to think. Moonbats
are incapable of that, all they can do "feel." Anything more and their heads
begin to ache.
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| User: "Tim Howard" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88-60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
25 Apr 2006 02:20:16 AM |
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Stan de SD wrote:
Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
It is not an issue of "control" it is an issue of them allowing things
to happen. Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business. Oil
companies know they have friends on the White House who are not going to
do anything to stop them from raising gasoline prices as high as they
want. You should take a look at the book House of Bush, House of Saud
to see the long-time relationship of the Saudies and the Bush family.
As for how they benefit--what do you think both of them are going to do
once they leave the White House? IMO, there will be plenty of CEO
offers from oil companies for them once they leave. We will see in a
couple of years if my prediction is right. They have benefited from big
oil's campaign contributions. According to the Center for Public
Integrety, oil companies have given Bush $1,724,579 from 1998-2004, and
73% of their contributions go to Republican candidates.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
02 May 2006 03:05:03 AM |
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"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
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Stan de SD wrote:
Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how
they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
It is not an issue of "control" it is an issue of them allowing things
to happen.
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have control
over stopping them.
Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business.
And that proves what?
Oil
companies know they have friends on the White House who are not going to
do anything to stop them from raising gasoline prices as high as they
want.
Oil companies can't charge any more for gas than people are willing to pay
for it.
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| User: "Tim Howard" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88-60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
03 May 2006 12:57:16 AM |
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Stan de SD wrote:
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have control
over stopping them.
GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business.
And that proves what?
Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering. I
answer that below, but the answer is already obvious to everyone else in
this country, except you I guess.
Oil
companies know they have friends on the White House who are not going to
do anything to stop them from raising gasoline prices as high as they
want.
Oil companies can't charge any more for gas than people are willing to pay
for it.
It is impractical for most people not to drive vehicles, for a variety
of reasons. You should more accurately have said oil companies will
charge as much as they think they can get people to pay for it.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
03 May 2006 04:35:59 AM |
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"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
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Stan de SD wrote:
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have
control
over stopping them.
GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
Already taxed, Einstein.
Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business.
And that proves what?
Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering.
No, I scan them and see if I can pick out something at least cogent to
respond to. Unfortunately, the vast majority of your posts are either
tinfoil-hat histrionics, or the usual pissy whinings of the unsuccessful and
unmotivated.
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| User: "Tim Howard" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88-60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
04 May 2006 12:12:14 AM |
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Stan de SD wrote:
"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uCX5g.266394$Oe2.1436@fed1read07...
Stan de SD wrote:
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have
control
over stopping them.
GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
Already taxed, Einstein.
I should have said to raise their taxes, along with the other
billion-dollar corporations that are making a killing at the expense of
everyone else.
Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business.
And that proves what?
Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering.
No, I scan them and see if I can pick out something at least cogent to
respond to. Unfortunately, the vast majority of your posts are either
tinfoil-hat histrionics, or the usual pissy whinings of the unsuccessful and
unmotivated.
You don't know anything about my life to judge if I am successful or
not. I don't speculate on yours. Here is what I posted that you try to
twist around, instead of responding to:
Oil companies know they have friends on the White House who are not
going to do anything to stop them from raising gasoline prices as high
as they want.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
04 May 2006 09:53:43 AM |
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"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
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Stan de SD wrote:
"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uCX5g.266394$Oe2.1436@fed1read07...
Stan de SD wrote:
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have
control
over stopping them.
GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
Already taxed, Einstein.
I should have said to raise their taxes,
And you think that would result in cheaper gasoline? What happens when they
figure out that there's plenty of demand in other countries where they
already pay higher prices?
Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering.
No, I scan them and see if I can pick out something at least cogent to
respond to. Unfortunately, the vast majority of your posts are either
tinfoil-hat histrionics, or the usual pissy whinings of the unsuccessful
and
unmotivated.
You don't know anything about my life to judge if I am successful or
not.
I know that you have no clue as to how basic economics works.
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| User: "Miguel OPastel" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
04 May 2006 06:07:15 PM |
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"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
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: "Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:b2g6g.54343$L03.11826@fed1read07...
: > Stan de SD wrote:
: > > "Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
: > > news:uCX5g.266394$Oe2.1436@fed1read07...
: > >
: > >>Stan de SD wrote:
: > >>
: > >>>Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have
: > >
: > > control
: > >
: > >>>over stopping them.
: > >>>
: > >>
: > >>GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
: > >>gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
: > >>specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
: > >
: > > Already taxed, Einstein.
: > >
: > I should have said to raise their taxes,
:
: And you think that would result in cheaper gasoline? What happens when
they
: figure out that there's plenty of demand in other countries where they
: already pay higher prices?
:
: > >>Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering.
: > >
: > >
: > > No, I scan them and see if I can pick out something at least cogent to
: > > respond to. Unfortunately, the vast majority of your posts are either
: > > tinfoil-hat histrionics, or the usual pissy whinings of the
unsuccessful
: and
: > > unmotivated.
: > >
: > You don't know anything about my life to judge if I am successful or
: > not.
:
: I know that you have no clue as to how basic economics works.
:
:
:
Capitalist economics is a con game. Almost everyone knows that wealth is
created through criminality.
M
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Lefty Liberals ***** and moan, but have no solutions [Re: $70.88- 60 cents more than Katrina Barrels] |
07 May 2006 04:42:32 PM |
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"Miguel O'Pastel" <nocapitalism@tall.kid> wrote in message
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"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
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: "Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:b2g6g.54343$L03.11826@fed1read07...
: > Stan de SD wrote:
: > > "Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
: > > news:uCX5g.266394$Oe2.1436@fed1read07...
: > >
: > >>Stan de SD wrote:
: > >>
: > >>>Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they
have
: > >
: > > control
: > >
: > >>>over stopping them.
: > >>>
: > >>
: > >>GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
: > >>gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
: > >>specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
: > >
: > > Already taxed, Einstein.
: > >
: > I should have said to raise their taxes,
:
: And you think that would result in cheaper gasoline? What happens when
they
: figure out that there's plenty of demand in other countries where they
: already pay higher prices?
:
: > >>Proof again that you don't read my whole posts before anwering.
: > >
: > >
: > > No, I scan them and see if I can pick out something at least cogent
to
: > > respond to. Unfortunately, the vast majority of your posts are
either
: > > tinfoil-hat histrionics, or the usual pissy whinings of the
unsuccessful
: and
: > > unmotivated.
: > >
: > You don't know anything about my life to judge if I am successful or
: > not.
:
: I know that you have no clue as to how basic economics works.
:
Capitalist economics is a con game. Almost everyone knows that wealth is
created through criminality.
Is that why your beloved Castro has hundreds of millions, while his own
people starve?
Cuban Envoys Angered By Forbes Estimate Of Castro Wealth
MEXICO CITY (AP)--
Most people would be flattered if Forbes magazine estimated their personal
fortune at $550 million - but Cuban President Fidel Castro is not,
apparently, one of them.
Cuba's embassy in Mexico issued a stinging rebuke on Wednesday of the Forbes
article without mentioning the magazine by name, calling it "a repugnant
example of a campaign of lies" by "an American magazine of decaying
credibility."
"It is a clumsy slander and a repugnant example of a campaign of lies
perpetrated in the United States with the sole aim of justifying the
criminal blockade of Cuba," the embassy said in a press statement.
Embassy officials could not immediately explain why the statement was
released in Mexico, rather than in Havana, the Cuban capital.
In a story published Tuesday about the fortunes of rulers and
heads-of-state, Forbes estimated the communist leader's net worth at $550
million, but acknowledged "these estimates are more art than science."
"In the past, we have relied on a percentage of Cuba's gross domestic
product to estimate Fidel Castro's fortune," the article stated. "This year
we have used more traditional valuation methods, comparing state-owned
assets Castro is assumed to control with comparable publicly traded
companies."
The magazine said Castro "derives his fortune from a web of state-owned
businesses," including a convention center and retail and pharmaceutical
businesses.
The embassy denied that, saying "income from Cuban state-owned companies are
used exclusively for the benefit of the people, to whom they belong."
While the embassy did not dispute Forbes' estimate that Castro "travels
exclusively in a convoy of black Mercedes-Benzes, it claimed Cuba was the
only country in Latin America to fight inequality.
http://www.canf.org/2005/1in/noticias-de-Cuba/2005-mar-17-cuba-envoys-angered-by-forbes.htm
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05 May 2006 04:31:06 PM |
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"Miguel O'Pastel" <nocapitalism@tall.kid> wrote in message
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Capitalist economics is a con game. Almost everyone knows that wealth is
created through criminality.
M
Is that how you got yours, Mickey?
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| User: "Miguel OPastel" |
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06 May 2006 12:08:21 PM |
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"The Pervert" <pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: "Miguel O'Pastel" <nocapitalism@tall.kid> wrote in message
: news:DfOdnQiUuuKmFsfZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
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: > Capitalist economics is a con game. Almost everyone knows that wealth
is
: > created through criminality.
: > M
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: Is that how you got yours, Mickey?
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As an accidental byproduct of criminal capitalism and a lot of hard work, I
got mine which I use for
good not evil as the right does.
M
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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06 May 2006 01:24:17 PM |
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"Miguel O'Pastel" <nocapitalism@tall.kid> wrote in message
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"The Pervert" <pervert12@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: "Miguel O'Pastel" <nocapitalism@tall.kid> wrote in message
: news:DfOdnQiUuuKmFsfZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
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: > Capitalist economics is a con game. Almost everyone knows that wealth
is
: > created through criminality.
: > M
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: Is that how you got yours, Mickey?
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As an accidental byproduct of criminal capitalism and a lot of hard work,
I
got mine which I use for
good not evil as the right does.
M
Anything you say, Mick. I believe you. Really, I do.
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| User: "" |
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03 May 2006 11:30:18 AM |
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 22:57:16 -0700, Tim Howard <tim.howard@cox.net>
wrote:
Stan de SD wrote:
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have control
over stopping them.
GW and ***** could have the Justice Dept. investigate them for price
gouging. They could call on Congress to tax their oil profits--not
specifically the CEO's salary, but the company as a whole.
Funny isn't it, that during this time of high prices they continue to
refine less.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/twip/gttpusm.gif
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Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
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| User: "The Trucker" |
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03 May 2006 02:38:18 PM |
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tu"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
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"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
news:T4k3g.119979$Oe2.53641@fed1read07...
Stan de SD wrote:
Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how
they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
It is not an issue of "control" it is an issue of them allowing things
to happen.
Suggesting that they "allow" things to happen assumes that they have control
over stopping them.
They did. They could have taxed more and preserved the value
of the US dollar. The tax could have been a tax on imports or a
tax on gasoline, or even a progressive income tax. They could
have not lied their way into a war so as to prevent the expense.
There are a lot of other things they could have done to keep
the dollars value from being cut in half.
Bush and Cheney were both in the oil business.
And that proves what?
It proves they are rent seekers.
Oil
companies know they have friends on the White House who are not going to
do anything to stop them from raising gasoline prices as high as they
want.
Oil companies can't charge any more for gas than people are willing to pay
for it.
Can you say "economic rent"?
--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org
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04 May 2006 11:44:34 AM |
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On Wed, 3 May 2006 12:38:18 -0700, "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Tim Howard" <tim.howard@cox.net> wrote in message
news:T4k3g.119979$Oe2.53641@fed1read07...
Stan de SD wrote:
Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how
they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
Gee, let's start with who wrote the national energy policy and why
Cheney went to the Supreme court rather than tell us.
____
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
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| User: "Just Looking" |
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21 Apr 2006 01:50:49 PM |
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asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL CONTROL
over this country ...get all the republican votes together and do something
....
ONLY AN IDIOTIC PARTY WOULD WAIT FOR A CRISIS TO STRIKE BEFORE TRYING TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT ...
Just a few common sense suggestions to help you retards out:
TAX!
1. get some reserves out
2. investigate the oil companies to see how they do pricing, resourcing,
retirement packages of HALF BILLION!!!
3. Slap a heavy tax on ALL SUVs out there and those being manufactured now
....
4. Slap a tax on all industries using oil as a raw material
I'm no specialist and am sure there are other ways to do it ...if the
Republiscums want to do something about it!
"Stan de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote in message
news:8a63$4449268e$45035f0d$11336@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
"David Olsen" <davidolsen@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1eb1e18c441dd1e5989f6f@news.individual.net...
True!
Blind trust in Bush and what Fox tells them to think.
Weak minded Nazi NeoCons can't think on their own.
I see you couldn't answer my question, you ignorant *****. Show me how
Bush or Cheney have any control whatsoever over fuel prices, and how they
personally benefit. Come on: you Lefty Liberals have been making this
accusation for 5 years now - now let's see if you can come up with any
concrete evidence to substantiate your claims.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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21 Apr 2006 02:13:25 PM |
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"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
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asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of your
own idiocy. :O|
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| User: "kim1" |
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22 Apr 2006 12:16:57 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
news:UuudnT2fA6UMtNTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of your
own idiocy. :O|
Then's who is in charge? Who are the leaders of this nation? The
rats in the White House storage room? The minimum wage security
guards in Congress?
Many people knew what "staying the course" meant. Only the few who
blindly followed an impotent leader claimed that he knew what he was
doing. People, it's really too late to complain about the slaughter
when you're already in line to the slaughterhouse. Stay the Course!!
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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22 Apr 2006 05:56:49 PM |
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"kim1" <kim1@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
news:UuudnT2fA6UMtNTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL
CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of
your
own idiocy. :O|
Then's who is in charge? Who are the leaders of this nation? The
rats in the White House storage room? The minimum wage security
guards in Congress?
Like an ignorant lefty, you think that all the problems of the world are the
result of somebody ELSE being in "total control", and that somehow they will
be solved when YOU are in total control. Does George Bush or anywhere at the
White House call you up each morning and tell you where to work, where to
shop, who to vote for, whether you should put on clean underwear or not?
Hint, hint: the person most in control of your life is your own self - get a
clue.
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22 Apr 2006 03:44:11 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:16:57 -0500, kim1 <kim1@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
news:UuudnT2fA6UMtNTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of your
own idiocy. :O|
Then's who is in charge? Who are the leaders of this nation? The
rats in the White House storage room? The minimum wage security
guards in Congress?
You gotta love that GOP logic. Yes everything is fucked up from Iraq
to oil prices to Bush's polls and going to hell in a hand basket. Yes
the public thinks Bush is incompetent and the GOP is corrupt. But
it's the dems fault because they haven't booted us from power yet in
all three branches.
You know when you're digging a hole, the first step to getting out is
to stop digging. In this case that means booting the GOP.
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Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are
putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. - Mark Twain
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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22 Apr 2006 05:57:50 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:16:57 -0500, kim1 <kim1@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
news:UuudnT2fA6UMtNTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL
CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of
your
own idiocy. :O|
Then's who is in charge? Who are the leaders of this nation? The
rats in the White House storage room? The minimum wage security
guards in Congress?
You gotta love that GOP logic. Yes everything is fucked up from Iraq
to oil prices to Bush's polls and going to hell in a hand basket. Yes
the public thinks Bush is incompetent and the GOP is corrupt. But
it's the dems fault because they haven't booted us from power yet in
all three branches.
The fact that Lefty Liberals think that some single entity has "total
control" over their lives shows how pathetic they are.
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| User: "kim1" |
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23 Apr 2006 09:55:07 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:57:50 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:195l42t8m2p349bqbbashnqebja85qud7g@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:16:57 -0500, kim1 <kim1@nowhere.net> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:13:25 -0700, "Stan de SD"
<standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net> wrote:
"Just Looking" <skgaskhg@djfjtmwenrk.com> wrote in message
news:UuudnT2fA6UMtNTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@comcast.com...
asSDhole ...your GOP imbeciles had a 5-year (and still have) TOTAL
CONTROL
over this country ...
The fact that you think they have "total control" is proof positive of
your
own idiocy. :O|
Then's who is in charge? Who are the leaders of this nation? The
rats in the White House storage room? The minimum wage security
guards in Congress?
You gotta love that GOP logic. Yes everything is fucked up from Iraq
to oil prices to Bush's polls and going to hell in a hand basket. Yes
the public thinks Bush is incompetent and the GOP is corrupt. But
it's the dems fault because they haven't booted us from power yet in
all three branches.
The fact that Lefty Liberals think that some single entity has "total
control" over their lives shows how pathetic they are.
I am not a liberal. I am knowledgable of the fact that the majority
of yahoos that are running the U.S. government today, in the most
corrupt and incompetent way possible, are from the same Party.
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