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Topic:	Politics > Politics-USA
User:	"Ubiquitous"
Date:	14 Apr 2006 06:23:29 AM
Object:	Liberal Racism Watch

The Seattle Times reports that a racist question appeared on a math test
at Bellevue Community College:
[Student Chelsey] Richardson, 25, said she found
the question on a practice test for a math final
she was studying for in March. The question read,
"Condoleezza holds a watermelon just over the
edge of the roof of the 300-foot Federal Building,
and tosses it up with a velocity of 20 feet per
second." The question went on to ask when the
watermelon will hit the ground, based on a formula
provided. The question propagates a racial
stereotype and denigrates[1] Secretary of State
Rice, said [the Rev. Wayne] Perryman [a civil
rights activist Richardson contacted]. While
Rice's last name wasn't mentioned, the reference
was clear, he said.
"How many Condoleezzas spell their name that
way and how many Condoleezzas are associated
with a federal building? It doesn't take much
to connect the dotted lines," he said.
Richardson, along with her friend Ilays Aden,
met with the chairman of the math department
who agreed to remove the question from the
department's files. But the women left feeling
the school needed to take a deeper look at
how a racist stereotype could be inserted into
the curriculum.
Liberals are always telling us that racism is everywhere, "just beneath
the surface," and perhaps this reflects a degree of self-knowledge. Many
white liberals are astonishingly uninhibited about attacking black
conservatives or Republicans on racial grounds, and that is what appears
to have happened here. (We don't know for sure, since Bellevue is not
revealing the identity of the professor who wrote the question.)
The good news is that the college president, Jean Floten, is taking the
complaint seriously. According to the Times, she "apologized Wednesday at
an emotional open-campus meeting" and "praised the courage of the
students who brought the question to the college's attention."
[1] A curious choice of words, since denigrate means "to blacken."
--
If black Democrats--and white Democrats, for that matter--cannot disagree
respectfully with a conservative who happens to be black, they have no
moral authority when it comes to combating racism in other
manifestations.
.

User: "Nosferatu"
Title: Re: Liberal Racism Watch	16 Apr 2006 04:01:52 AM

What makes you think that stupid racist question was written by a
liberal?
"We don't know for sure, since Bellevue is not
revealing the identity of the professor who wrote the question."
The teacher remains unidentified according to the article.
This is a typical example of scapegoating liberals for all the ills of
this country. I should remind you it is conservatives who are mucking
up this country these days.
Who controls the Congress and the White House these days? It can also
be argued that it is conservatives, not liberals, these days who
control the media. We have a nation in debt, our jobs are being sent
overseas, and American lives are foolishly being lost to President
Bush's inept foreign policy. You conservatives are wrecking the
country.
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User: "Ubiquitous"
Title: Palestinian Racism Watch	02 Aug 2006 06:33:27 AM

"Palestinians love to hate Condoleezza Rice," according to a new report from
Palestinian Media Watch:
Above and beyond the steady anti-American hatred
promoted by the Palestinian Authority (PA) leaders
for years, they seem to have a special penchant
for hating Condoleezza Rice. Some of the attacks
have included expressions of racial hatred, as
in an article this week referring to Rice as a
"raven" and a previous article that referred to
her as "the colored . . . the dark skinned . . .
the black lady." [see PMW Bulletin]
In another racist article attacking Condolezza
Rice, the PA daily referred to her as the "black
woman" [three times], the "black spinster" and
continues that he even considered the term "black
widow" but rejected it. Her father is called the
"black clergyman" [who filled her head with Bible
stories] and Colin Powell is the "black man,"
the "black gentleman" and even the "brave and
moderate black."
PMW also reproduces a cartoon[1] depicting Rice as pregnant with a monkey.
The fetal simian-American is wearing a yarmulke, and the text is translated,
"Rice speaks about birth of a new Middle East." These Palestinians are so
prejudiced, they remind us of--well, of American liberals[2].
[1]: http://pmw.org.il/images/Al-Quds%20240706%20Rice.0.jpg
[2]: http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006012
--
If black Democrats--and white Democrats, for that matter--cannot disagree
respectfully with a conservative who happens to be black, they have no
moral authority when it comes to combating racism in other
manifestations.
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User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	02 Aug 2006 11:33:37 AM

"Jews always position themselves as mediators. These
nasties hold it cardinal they accredit and interpret *everything*.
Nothing has worth or meaning until it's pronounced upon by a generous
scoop of ***** in a hate hat. Nothing must be expressed save in jewish
terms. Invaders become undocumented workers. Queers become gays.
Freakins become African-Americans. Attack on Iraq becomes defense of
America. Nothing is legitimate save Big Kike stamp off on it.
BK doesn't like it when a Sheehan steps forward and foghorns facts to
fodder. Instantly, like mosquitoes at twilight, a flock of
bloodthirsty kikes appears, buzzing and sucking and whining. Have you
ever noticed that it is impossible to criticize jews and keep your
character? The jews have literally billions of enemies worldwide, yet
not a single one of them is an honest man of laudable motive. It is
impossible to carry off this charade without controlling the media
and a hell of a lot of other things too. The minute jew-criticism
appears, the ashkenazis and appeaser annies begin the smear. No one
ever opposed a loving kike except invidiously. Smear campaigns are
media control in action. There are other aspects of media control, but
day in day out, making horrible shrieks and gurgles to keep the goyish
herd away from the healthy green fields is the workaday business of
the controllers. Jews determine which issues may be debated, and in
what terms. Jews make up more than fifty percent of the experts on
both sides of these tiny debates. A few vetted goyim are allowed
through to keep up the charade of democratic discussion. The Internet
is the only medium that prevents the illusion of popular conformity
with jewthink being carried off. All that is necessary for jews to
maintain control is to create a congenial if bogus reality through
television and the main dailies, and relentlessly enforce this
orthodoxy through smear campaigns against any who breach it.
The death of a son is one of the few motives strong enough to drive
average goy fodder to breach etiquette and speak truth to kikes. She
must be shut down. How to do that? You can see the jews' uncertainty.
They attack her, at the same time, as both a lefty and a nazi.
Illogical, but in time they'll settle on an approach. Sometimes just
throwing ***** and see what sticks is the best way. How dare Sheehan
value her own son more than the interests of Israel?
I say my son died for LIES. George Bush LIED to us and he knew he
was LYING.
And none of the thick rancid honkings Limbaugh and the freeper
patriotards can gainsay it. Remember that bushy came out of manly
Barbara, the wizened maw who asked why she should trouble her
"beautiful mind" about the body bags coming back from Iraq. You know -
the ones you never see, because they have to show you endless pictures
of $440,000-compensated jews being "ethnically cleansed," sniff, yet
again. Only an anti-Semite puts his own life before Israel. The jews
are the one people on earth who routinely are absolved of guilt for
that for which they and they alone are guilty. Isn't that odd?
DaX
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
.

User: ""
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	05 Aug 2006 05:29:34 PM

In <7uk1d2h4u2is59s86phr4gdkna55ab2a4g@4ax.com>, on 08/02/06
at 11:33 AM, Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> said:

the ones you never see, because they have to show you endless pictures of
$440,000-compensated jews being "ethnically cleansed," sniff, yet again.
Only an anti-Semite puts his own life before Israel. The jews are the one
people on earth who routinely are absolved of guilt for that for which
they and they alone are guilty. Isn't that odd?

Actually, it's been Jews who have been blamed for every ill in the world
throughout much of history, as the rambling above does. Some things never
change.
Alan
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User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	05 Aug 2006 06:13:19 PM

In article <44d51c3c$5$nynaurff$mr2ice@newsgroups.comcast.net>,

wrote:

In <7uk1d2h4u2is59s86phr4gdkna55ab2a4g@4ax.com>, on 08/02/06
at 11:33 AM, Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> said:

Actually, it's been Jews who have been blamed for every ill in the world
throughout much of history, as the rambling above does. Some things never
change.

Alan

Very true, just look at the media today. Hezbollah dresses as citizens
and hides among them, but the death of civilians are the Jews fault.
Hezbollah fires rockets from populated areas, but the civilian deaths
near those attacked sites are the Jews fault. Hezbollah is
intentionally firing these rockets at unarmed civilians, but the Jews
are flying around, dropping flyers telling innocent people to leave so
they don't get hurt. But, the Jews are the problem.
--
--Conservatives deal with facts, liberals deal with emotion--
.

User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 01:34:16 PM

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Viewpoint: US media bias in covering Israel and Palestine
Remi Kanazi
March 23, 2006
NEW YORK, NY, USA -- On July 18, 2005, 14-year-old Ragheb Al Masri
sat in the back of a taxi with his parents at the Abu Holi checkpoint.
An Israeli bullet penetrated his back and cracked open his chest. His
mother screamed as his body lay lifeless. Have you heard his name?
I wouldn't expect that you have because CNN, The New York Times, and
The Washington Post didn't report the killing online. If they had
quoted his parents, their readers would have been able to feel their
tears and envision the heartbreak. Ultimately, no Israeli soldier was
arrested or even reprimanded. Every time a suicide bombing strikes
Israel, mass coverage of the tragedy begins instantly. Whether landing
on the front page of The New York Times or taking up the headline
block on CNN.com, the pain that Israeli people endure is shown
endlessly. Israelis do suffer. Suicide bombings are horrific.
Nevertheless, Palestinian pain occurs far more frequently, and yet it
is often overlooked by the mainstream American media. Since the
uprising in September of 2000, more than 3,800 Palestinians have been
killed in the Occupied Territories as a result of the conflict. Most
Americans are unaware of the toll because it is not properly reported.
In 2004, If Americans Knew - an American organization that exposes and
examines the facts of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict - reported that
808 Palestinian conflict deaths occurred while 107 Israelis conflict
deaths occurred. The study, however, found that The New York Times
covered Israeli deaths in the headline or the first paragraph in 159
articles - meaning in some cases they covered the same death numerous
times. In contrast, the newspaper only covered about 40 percent of
Palestinian deaths - 334 of 808 - in the headline or in the first
paragraph of the articles. Nearly eight Palestinians died for every
one Israeli. Disturbingly The New York Times is considered the
quintessential "liberal" newspaper of the US. When Palestinian deaths
occur, especially militant deaths, the Israeli government's version of
the story is taken as fact in the mainstream US media. In most cases,
articles covering the death of Palestinians only include large Israeli
quotes, without citing Palestinian witnesses and other credible
nongovernmental organization sources. This continues to be the case
after human rights groups have released reports stating that Israel
has indiscriminately shot at civilians, even using them as human
shields.
In as early as 2001, Amnesty International (AI) and Human Rights Watch
(HRW) stated, "At least 470 Palestinians have been killed, most of
them unlawfully by Israeli security forces when their lives [Israeli
Security Forces] and the lives of others were not in danger." Since
the AI/HRW report, more than 3,350 Palestinians have been killed. It
is remarkable how so many can accept Israeli government as the sole,
objective source when it forcibly occupies the Palestinian
territories.
On August 25, 2005, the headline on CNN.com read, "Israel: Five
Militants Shot in Raid". The article claimed that the militants were
suspected of being involved with a suicide bombing; they were armed
and exchanged fire with the Israeli Occupation Forces (IOF), and five
Palestinians were shot. The report also mentions that the town
Netanya, where the suicide bombing referenced in the article took
place, was a frequent sight for suicide bombings. No Palestinian
quote, no witnesses giving an alternative perspective, and no mention
that three of the victims shot were under the age of 18.
The Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz covered the same event including
Palestinian quotes and some Palestinian claims. The paper reported
that the IOF killed five Palestinians on August 25, three of whom
Palestinian sources claimed to be between the ages of 14 and 17 with
no known links to militant organizations. Four of the victims died at
the scene, while one of the young victims died later that night.
Varying Palestinian reporters cited witnesses claiming that all five
Palestinians were unarmed, including the two militants killed. This
was the first fatal attack since the "disengagement" of the Gaza
Strip. The contrast in coverage between CNN and Ha'aretz is
staggering. The CNN headline was written in absolutes: "Five militants
shot in raid". The CNN article continued by stating only the Israeli
claim that five militants were killed, making the headline biased and
misleading. The Ha'aretz headline read: "US urges restraint after IDF
raid that killed five Palestinians". This headline refers to the
people who were shot as Palestinians and not solely militants. The
Ha'aretz article covers conflicting Israeli and Palestinian claims,
which made it impossible to determine whether or not all five killed
were militants or civilians.
On September 7, the findings of a probe, conducted by Ha'aretz and the
Israeli human rights group B'Tselem, found that three of the five
Palestinians killed in the assault on August 25 were under the age of
18 and did not have any links to known terrorist organizations. Their
investigation also found that the two militants killed were low
ranking operatives who were not armed at the time. This repudiates the
Israeli claim that IOF soldiers were in the area involved in an
operation against militant leaders and a "ticking bomb" with
connection to suicide bombings in Israel. "Ticking bombs" are
characterized as individuals that are an imminent physical threat to
the state of Israel or people holding information that imminently
threaten the security of the state of Israel. In most cases, "ticking
bombs" are referred to as would-be suicide bombers or those holding
valuable information on individuals carrying out a suicide bombing.
Israel has used the "ticking bomb" scenario in the past as an excuse
to torture Palestinians with impunity. In a 1998 study on the "ticking
bomb" scenario, B'Tselem found Israel's claim that it was necessary to
use torture against "ticking bombs" was in most cases "totally
unsubstantiated". The recent findings of Ha'aretz and B'Tselem deeply
call into question the reliability of the state of Israel on affairs
in the Occupied Territories and reaffirm the notion that using Israel
as the sole source is careless and unacceptable.
Israel professes that it doesn't have the death penalty, but it has in
the past and "maintains the right" in the future, to carry out
extrajudicial assassinations of "wanted" Palestinians. Israeli defense
minister Shaul Mofaz admitted on August 26 that Israel invaded and
fired first in the incident that killed five Palestinians, while
maintaining the notion that the militants - meaning all five killed -
were armed. Again, Israel, the occupying force, reserves the "right"
to play God with the lives of the Palestinian people.
There are many examples of unarmed children and disabled Palestinians
being injured or killed by Israeli forces. More than 875 women and
children have died since the start of the conflict under the guise of
security. Nearly 25 percent of the children killed were under the age
of 12. Why are "leftwing" media outlets such as The New York Times and
CNN not reporting the Palestinian side of the story?�They cover
injustices only when there is no risk of backlash from readers and
advertisers. The media moguls are only "aware" and objective when it
pays them to be. CNN and The New York Times must vet their content, so
as not to be viewed as "pro-Palestinian", in fear that advertisers
will pull their ads or commercials, leading to a loss in revenue�
The dilemma of the "free press" in America is that it isn't free. The
media hinges on the support of the people, newspaper subscriptions,
television viewership, advertisements, and the bottom line of their
companies. We live in a capitalistic society run by corporate profits
and essential year over year growth. I understand why The New York
Times and CNN report the way they do. They are media hacks run by the
corporate dollar.
Injustice is injustice. Murder is murder. While Palestinian suffering
goes on unreported children like Ragheb Al Masri remain dead and
forgotten, and the American press remains biased and forgiven.
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
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User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 04:17:09 PM

In article <jfdcd2dqf7o7tnakim87it44sbnl8jkpob@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:
The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al- Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock for
five days.
There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.
The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.
http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html
Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.
--
--Conservatives deal with facts, liberals deal with emotion--
.

User: "H.R.H. Qwerty"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 06:14:41 PM

In article <xxxrayted-F85D5F.17170906082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <jfdcd2dqf7o7tnakim87it44sbnl8jkpob@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:

The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al- Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock for
five days.

There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.

The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.

http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

Or shoot unarmed children fleeing a battle zone. It's those kinds of
actions that perpetuate the hate and the fighting.
Qwerty
.

User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 06:38:21 PM

In article <qwerty-705418.19144106082006@news.charter.net>,
"H.R.H. Qwerty" <qwerty@nonya.biz> wrote:

In article <xxxrayted-F85D5F.17170906082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <jfdcd2dqf7o7tnakim87it44sbnl8jkpob@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:

The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al- Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock for
five days.

There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.

The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.

http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

Or shoot unarmed children fleeing a battle zone. It's those kinds of
actions that perpetuate the hate and the fighting.

Sounds to me like they just decided that they weren't going to sit there
anymore. Even American solders killed Iraqi civilians that tried to
bust through a checkpoint. I don't understand why this concept is so
hard to understand! When a armed person of authority tells you to stop,
you just stop and there won't be a problem.
--
--Conservatives deal with facts, liberals deal with emotion--
.

User: "H.R.H. Qwerty"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 09:36:22 PM

In article <xxxrayted-ED5FF1.19382106082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <qwerty-705418.19144106082006@news.charter.net>,
"H.R.H. Qwerty" <qwerty@nonya.biz> wrote:

In article <xxxrayted-F85D5F.17170906082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <jfdcd2dqf7o7tnakim87it44sbnl8jkpob@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Very true, just look at the media today. Hezbollah dresses as
citizens
and hides among them, but the death of civilians are the Jews fault.
Hezbollah fires rockets from populated areas, but the civilian deaths
near those attacked sites are the Jews fault. Hezbollah is
intentionally firing these rockets at unarmed civilians, but the Jews
are flying around, dropping flyers telling innocent people to leave so
they don't get hurt. But, the Jews are the problem.

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:

The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al- Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock for
five days.

There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.

The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.

http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

Or shoot unarmed children fleeing a battle zone. It's those kinds of
actions that perpetuate the hate and the fighting.

Sounds to me like they just decided that they weren't going to sit there
anymore.

Agreed. Maybe they felt they were in immediate danger, or possibly they
believed that the Israeli's would harm them. Maybe they felt they had a
right to travel in their own land without a foreigner's permission.
Whatever their thinking, it proved fatal.

Even American solders killed Iraqi civilians that tried to
bust through a checkpoint. I don't understand why this concept is so
hard to understand! When a armed person of authority tells you to stop,
you just stop and there won't be a problem.

Maybe the "authority" part is what was not understood. Israeli troops
are in Lebanon under what authority (except their own)?
I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong. All I'm saying is that the
killing of children will only exacerbate the situation and the Israelis
should know that. Were someone to kill one of my children, I would not
be forgiving. Ever.
Qwerty
.

User: "z"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 12:44:58 PM

H.R.H. Qwerty wrote:

I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong.

OK, me too. Then how is it you can type these two sentences in the same
post and not make a connection?

Israeli troops
are in Lebanon under what authority (except their own)?
Were someone to kill one of my children, I would not
be forgiving. Ever.

The cycle of violence, the only perpetual motion machine known to man.
.

User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 04:05:27 PM

In article <qwerty-F26A2E.22362206082006@news.charter.net>,
"H.R.H. Qwerty" <qwerty@nonya.biz> wrote:

In article <xxxrayted-ED5FF1.19382106082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <qwerty-705418.19144106082006@news.charter.net>,
"H.R.H. Qwerty" <qwerty@nonya.biz> wrote:

In article <xxxrayted-F85D5F.17170906082006@news.newsguy.com>,
ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

In article <jfdcd2dqf7o7tnakim87it44sbnl8jkpob@4ax.com>,
Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Very true, just look at the media today. Hezbollah dresses as
citizens
and hides among them, but the death of civilians are the Jews fault.

Hezbollah fires rockets from populated areas, but the civilian
deaths
near those attacked sites are the Jews fault. Hezbollah is
intentionally firing these rockets at unarmed civilians, but the
Jews
are flying around, dropping flyers telling innocent people to leave
so
they don't get hurt. But, the Jews are the problem.

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:

The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al-
Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock
for
five days.

There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles
loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.

The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks
on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.

http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

Or shoot unarmed children fleeing a battle zone. It's those kinds of
actions that perpetuate the hate and the fighting.

Sounds to me like they just decided that they weren't going to sit there
anymore.

They were there for five days. It was after all that that they felt
they were in trouble? I have a right to walk my street at night, but if
somebody rides up and pulls a gun on me, I stop and that's that.

Maybe the "authority" part is what was not understood. Israeli troops
are in Lebanon under what authority (except their own)?

Their own is all they need. Who were they to wait for, the UN?

I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong. All I'm saying is that the
killing of children will only exacerbate the situation and the Israelis
should know that. Were someone to kill one of my children, I would not
be forgiving. Ever.

Normally I would agree with you if not for the fact these people use
their children for human bombs. But I really feel that the solder(s)
didn't know what or who was in the car at the time. All they really
knew is that somebody is doing something very suspicious and quite
possibly, dangerous.
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User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 07:14:28 PM

User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 07:12:46 PM

Tiptoeing around Our Problems
By Dr. William Pierce
"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.
Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.
So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.
Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.
As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.
And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.
There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.
Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.
Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.
The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.
Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.
Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.
How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?
Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.
Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."
Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.
Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.
In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."
Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.
The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.
Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.
The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.
Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.
Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.
Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.
Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.
Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."
Thanks for being with me again today.
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User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 07:11:34 PM

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:17:09 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Here's the part of the story that was not included here:

The incident occurred when Israeli soldiers stationed at the al- Matahen
roadblock opened fire at Palestinian vehicles that tried to cross the
roadblock after being held between al-Matahen and Abu Holi roadblock for
five days.

There were dozens of Palestinian cars, taxis, trucks and vehicles loaded
with passengers and goods between the two Israeli army roadblocks for
five days, witnesses said.

The two roadblocks are called the Gush Katif crossroad and the Kisoffim
junction respectively by Israeli army, which shut down the roadblocks on
Thursday and split the Gaza Strip into three isolated parts after
militants intensified rocket attacks on Israeli targets.

http://english.people.com.cn/200507/19/eng20050719_196863.html

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

By Dr. Hanan Ashrawi
"Israeli tanks and armored vehicles are surrounding Palestinian
villages, camps and cities (and not the other way around).
Israeli (American made) Apache gun ships are firing Lau and other
missiles at Palestinian protestors and homes (and not the other way
around).
It is Israel that is confiscating Palestinian land and importing
Jewish settlers to set up illegal armed settlements in the heart of
Palestinian territory (and not the other way around).
The settlers on the rampage in the West Bank are Israelis terrorizing
Palestinians in their own homes (and not the other way around).
The homes that are being demolished at the hands of the Israelis are
Palestinian homes (and not the other way around).
The armed soldiers and Special Forces at checkpoints throughout
Palestine are Israeli (and not the other way around).
The more than a hundred murdered civilians and thousands of injured
are all Palestinians being shot by Israeli occupation troops (and not
the other way around).
It is Israel that has closed down the Palestinian airport at Gaza
thereby preventing badly needed medical supplies from reaching the
Palestinians (and not the other way around).
The crossing points to and from Palestine as well as entrances and
exits to and from all Palestinian inhabited areas are manned and
controlled by Israeli soldiers who have completely prevented all
freedom of movement (and not the other way around)."
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User: "z"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	08 Aug 2006 09:52:55 AM

Topaz wrote:

Israeli (American made) Apache gun ships are firing Lau and other
missiles at Palestinian protestors and homes (and not the other way
around).

Do da woid Qassam ring a bell dere? Mebbe da woid Katyusha?
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User: ""
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 12:05:46 AM

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:17:09 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Maybe it's not such a hot idea to crash checkpoints were armed solders
are instructed to Shoot to Kill anybody disobeying orders. But of
course, we can't blame the taxi driver, it's the Jews fault. They
shouldn't respond to rocket attacks.

And they shouldn't trap people in no man's land without food and water
for five days at a time.
Swill
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User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 04:06:24 PM

In article <fgidd2h4lfnpcn5l3q4lgrr5lfh0u6g7bs@4ax.com>,

wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:17:09 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

And they shouldn't trap people in no man's land without food and water
for five days at a time.

I didn't see anything in the article about food or water. Or are you
assuming here?
--
--Conservatives deal with facts, liberals deal with emotion--
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User: ""
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 08:55:46 PM

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:06:24 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

And they shouldn't trap people in no man's land without food and water
for five days at a time.

I didn't see anything in the article about food or water. Or are you
assuming here?

I would assume that when one heads out on a trip of less than a day to
go somewhere, one doesn't carry a week's supply of food and water for
the trip. Food or not, trapped five days between checkpoints can
certainly lead to desperation.
Swill
.

User: "ray"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 09:11:09 PM

In article <7nrfd2172gpdeojg53l4kfsdkcr8omsdth@4ax.com>,

wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:06:24 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

And they shouldn't trap people in no man's land without food and water
for five days at a time.

I didn't see anything in the article about food or water. Or are you
assuming here?

Agreed. I ***** during Rush Hour if I have to sit there more than 20
minutes.
--
--Conservatives deal with facts, liberals deal with emotion--
.

User: "z"
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 12:42:25 PM

Topaz wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Viewpoint: US media bias in covering Israel and Palestine
Remi Kanazi
March 23, 2006

You don't read anything in the US papers either describing the deaths
of Rabia Abed Tazuli, 3, Mahmoud Taluzi, 7, or Dou'a Abbas, 15. That's
because they are Arab kids killed by Hezbollah missiles, which the well
known Syrian control of the world's media covers up.
.

User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	07 Aug 2006 07:19:42 PM

On 7 Aug 2006 10:42:25 -0700, "z" <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote:

Topaz wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 19:13:19 -0400, ray <xxxrayted@aol.com> wrote:

Viewpoint: US media bias in covering Israel and Palestine
Remi Kanazi
March 23, 2006

How To Explain American Apathy Over Israeli Killings of Palestinian
Children?
By Stephen J. Sosebee
July 1991, Page 24
Nothing has deepened the collective despair that is life in
Palestine today more than the killing of children, nor has any one
dimension produced greater anger and fuel for the intifada. Though it
may be so common now that it is hardly noticed in Israel, every
injured or dead child is mourned by the 1.7 million Palestinians
resisting occupation.
"They steal our land, imprison our leaders, and deny us our flag
and peace, but we will forgive them when we have our state, " said the
father of Said, a boy killed in Rafah. "But to keep shooting our
children; this I cannot forgive..."
A week after Said's death, his 19-year-old brother was also
killed by IDF troops in Rafah.
Some places in Palestine seem to have become Israeli free-fire
zones for children. In the Shatti refugee camp in Gaza, for example,
10 of the 19 civilians shot dead by the IDF during the uprising have
been under 16 years of age. Among them were three girls, a 3-year-old,
a 6-year-old and a 1 0-year-old, all shot to death within a
three-month period at the end of 1989.
"Do the Israelis think that by shooting our children they can
make us submit?" asks Ahmed, a Shatti resident. "Is it supposed to cow
us or lessen our resolve? Every new martyr confirms again to all why
we must rid ourselves of this occupation."
While the blood of Palestinian children obviously seems cheap to
the Israeli soldiers spilling it, Palestinian parents are at a loss to
understand how the Israeli public justifies and the American public
ignores the killing of their children.
"When my son was killed the entire camp defied the curfew and
beatings to pay him respect," says the mother of Bassani, a
12-year-old killed by an Israeli Defense Forces sniper while tending
sheep during the curfew last February. "The people know his blood is
for Palestine and they supported us during our pain and loss. There is
no greater sacrifice than to lose your child, and there is nothing
greater to sacrifice for than your freedom and country. Still, it
hurts so."
Whether American correspondents are to blame, or whether the
fault lies with dishonest editors, US newspapers are not informing the
American public concerning the frequency with which Palestinian
children have been killed by Israeli soldiers over the past four
years. From Dec. 12, 1990 to April 1, 199 1, for example, 14
Palestinian children under the age of 16 were shot dead. During the
same period of time in the first year of the intifada, 15 kids were
killed by gunfire. In all, 239 children have been killed by Israeli
forces during the uprising, while more than 55,000 more have been
seriously wounded.
"What is the most disturbing fact about the numbers concerning
injured children is that the soldiers don't seem to care who is in the
sight at the end of their rifles when they pull the trigger," says Dr.
Adnan Marshoud, a physician at Shifa Hospital in Gaza. "To most of
them, we must be animals, not living and breathing human beings. They
don't consider that we love our children, or the pain and anger that
burns us when our children are killed or injured."
According to UNRWA statistics compiled just in the Gaza Strip
from the start of the intifada to the first of March this year, 19,715
children under the age of 15 required medical attention due to IDF
acts of violence. Of these, 2,590 were wounded by live ammunition, not
rubber bullets.
"What do they say in America to justify shooting our children?"
is perhaps the most common question asked of foreigners in Palestine.
Always, I wonder if "they don't know" can really be an acceptable
answer.
Rivaling the absolute evil in any situation in which soldiers
kill unarmed civilians (not to mention children) are the tactics of
hard-line supporters of present Israeli government policies. It defies
logic to claim moral superiority and refuse to talk with the PLO
because it is just a "terrorist organization," while Israeli troops
continue to entrap and shoot children on a rather consistent basis.
Even more sickening is the hypocrisy displayed by all sides of
Israel's political establishment, as if Israel's leaders are not
really responsible for the acts that take place on the ground in
Palestine. How is it Defense Minister Moshe Arens can call the Arabs
"an uncivilized people" who "don't value human life, " when Israeli
troops have killed dozens and maimed hundreds of children just in the
period he has been minister of defense. Is he really such a hypocrite,
or does he truly think the circumstances and manner in which his
troops have shot children indiscriminately go unnoticed?
And who can still believe Yossi Sarid, a left-wing politican
from the "peace camp, " when he writes that the "stray bullets" that
"find" Palestinian children "pierced our hearts as well"? Leaders with
"pierced hearts" would demand that their own children stop the
slaughter in which more than 10,000 Palestinian children have been
shot over a four-year period.
Four years is enough time for both Israelis and Palestinians to
contemplate the directions in which they are heading, and to alter
their course if it involves acts for which they do not wish to be held
responsible.
Zion has decided that land is of greater value than the lives of
those living on it. For its part, the occupied population has pledged
not to submit to foreign domination, whatever the costs and suffering.
Thus, it seems the unequal relationship that has spilled so much
needless blood is to continue to be one based on domination and
hatred. And, unless Israelis come to their senses, or Americans refuse
to further condone their actions, the killing of Palestinian children
will continue unabated.
Stephen J. Sosebee is a free-lance writer who divides his time
between Ohio and occupied Palestine.
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User: "Topaz"
Title: Re: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	06 Aug 2006 01:33:05 PM

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:29:34 -0400,

wrote:

Actually, it's been Jews who have been blamed for every ill in the world
throughout much of history, as the rambling above does. Some things never
change.

What is more likely, there is something wrong with all other groups
in the world, or there is something wrong with Jews?
http://www.solarcross.com/behindcom.htm
Expelled
The Fourth Lateran Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but
it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the
13th century, one European country after another expelled its Jewish
population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take
the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen years later in
1306 the French followed suit. In steady succession the various states
of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the last to
enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting. Says
Encyclopedia Britannica: [page 57, vol. 13 - 1947]: "... The 14th
century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the
preaching of a priest of Seville, Fernando Martinez, led to the first
general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and
hated because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and
Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors turned their
attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were
evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish
population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in
Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world
(or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on an
innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in
1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the
privileged, the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the
gouging tax collectors ...
So it was in Portugal; in that country we find that the deportation of
the Jews ... "deprived Portugal of its middle class and its most
scientific traders and financiers." [Encyclopedia Britannica, page
279, vol. 18 - 1947.] Undeniably this class of traders and financiers
was put to hardship by this banishment, but it does not follow that
they were victims of discrimination in the accepted sense, nor were
they underprivileged in any way. Rather we see a wealthy merchant
group being ousted from its seat of vested privilege by a thoroughly
outraged, and a thoroughly exploited Christian society ...
The situation in England was similar. The Jews had come to England in
the wake of the Norman conquest and had quickly gained a position of
wealth and prosperity. Says Valentine's Jewish Encyclopedia of this
period: "Their numbers and prosperity increased, Aaron of Lincoln
being the wealthiest man in England in his time ... his financial
transactions covering the whole country and concerning many of the
leading nobles and churchmen ... On his death his property passed to
the crown and a special branch of the exchequer had to be created to
deal with it."
England
England, ironically enough, was the last country to be invaded by the
Jews and the first to evict them. After the Fourth Lateran Council the
Jews had become increasingly difficult to deal with and there were a
number of anti-Jewish riots. Perplexed by the problem posed by this
alien minority which seemed well on its way to corralling the
kingdom's wealth, and failing in an attempt to force its assimilation.
Edward I confiscated all Jewish wealth and evicted them permanently in
1290. Not until 1655 was a Jew legally permitted to re-enter England.
Britain thus established the precedent for the later eviction which
soon followed on the continent.
France
In France too the Jews were dominant in trade and finance and had been
since before Charlemagne's time. Under Philip the Fair (1285-1314) one
of the last, and certainly one of the greatest of the Capetian line,
France had become the greatest power in Europe. It was Philip's need
for money which led him to seize Jewish wealth and drive them from the
country. He had already before 1306 taken desperate measures to raise
money, which was in short supply, by forbidding the export of gold and
silver from France. The same need for money brought him into conflict
with the Templars, whose wealth he also seized. But it was the Jews
who controlled the greatest supply of floating wealth. In 1306 Philip
solved his financial problem-and France's Jewish problem-by
expropriating their wealth and evicting them. Thus ended the
centuries-long commercial dominance of the Jew in France. Later a few
were permitted to return and these were in turn ejected in 1394.
RETURN TO THE EAST
The Evictions
Space does not permit a detailed discussion of the other evictions
which followed and which resulted in the banishment of the Jews from
virtually every country in Western Europe in the succeeding centuries
but here in chronological order is a list of the evictions:
ENGLAND: Jews expelled in 1290 by Edward I. Not permitted to re-enter
till 1655.
FRANCE: Expelled in 1306 by Philip the Fair. A few were permitted to
return but were again evicted in 1394. Jewish settlements remained in
Bordeaux, Avignon, Marseilles, (from where they were evicted in 1682)
and in the northern province of Alsace.
SAXONY: Expelled in 1349.
HUNGARY: By 1092 the Jews were in control of Hungary's tax
collections. In 1360 they were expelled but later returned. In 1582
they were again expelled from the Christian part of Hungary.
BELGIUM: Expelled in 1370. A few settled there again in 1450, but no
large numbers came till 1700.
SLOVAKIA: Ousted from Prague in 1380. Many settled there again after
1562. In 1744 Marie Theresa expelled them again.
AUSTRIA: Expelled in 1420 by Albrecht V.
NETHERLANDS: Expelled from Utrecht in 1444.
SPAIN: Expelled in 1492.
LITHUANIA: Expelled in 1495 by Grand Duke Alexander. They later
returned.
PORTUGAL: Expelled in 1498.
PRUSSIA: Expelled in 1510.
ITALY: Expelled from Kingdom of Naples and Sardinia in 1540.
BAVARIA: Banned permanently in 1551.
Jews were not permitted to enter Sweden until 1782. None were
permitted to enter Denmark before the 17th century and they were not
allowed in Norway after 1814. Today only a handful reside in all
Scandinavia.
Back to Poland
By 1500 all of Western Europe except northern Italy, parts of Germany,
and the Papal possessions around Avignon, had been rid of the Jewish
invasion. For a while, at least, Europe was free of the Jews; not
until 1650 did they return in any numbers. Says Encyclopedia
Britannica: [page 57-58, vol. 13 - 1947.] "The great mass of the
Jewish people were thus to be found once more in the East, in the
Polish and Turkish empires . . The few communities suffered to remain
in western Europe were meanwhile subjected at last to all the
restrictions which earlier ages had usually allowed to remain as an
ideal; so that in a sense, the Jewish dark ages may be said to begin
with the Renaissance."
THE RENAISSANCE
As the Jew Departed ...
The period marked by the evictions-1300 to 1650-also marks the period
of the Renaissance which broke over Europe as the Jews departed.
Starting at first in the trading cities of northern Italy in about
1300, there began a great rebirth of culture and learning which at
first was based almost entirely on the writings of the ancient Greeks
and Romans. Very quickly this renascent culture spread over Europe and
when the age had ended, in about 1650, Europe was by comparison with
her former status, enlightened and civilized. Quite obviously all this
could not have taken place had it not been for a great upsurge of
commercial activity which occurred simultaneously with, and as an
adjunct of, the Renaissance. Not until the nations of Europe had
wrested commercial control from the ghetto did this rebirth of western
civilization occur.
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User: ""
Title: Re: Palestinian Racism Watch	09 Aug 2006 09:54:12 AM

Topaz wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 18:29:34 -0400,

wrote:

Actually, it's been Jews who have been blamed for every ill in the world
throughout much of history, as the rambling above does. Some things never
change.

What is more likely, there is something wrong with all other groups
in the world, or there is something wrong with Jews?

Sorry, the Christians and Muslims are