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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:10:57 AM |
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Loony Limbaugh sez next terror attack fault of democrats |
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
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| User: "Black Elk" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:22:47 AM |
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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
That's no surprise. They'll never accept their responsibility for the
actions of their president and party even though they control all three
branches of the government. Typical fascism, always looking for a scapegoat.
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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually
come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the
State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military
consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to
use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy
of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the
State."
Propaganda Minister Goebbels
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| User: "Jim Alder" |
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| Title: Re: Loony Limbaugh sez next terror attack fault of democrats |
18 Jun 2005 07:01:41 PM |
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"Black Elk" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1699a$42b43c4d$4fee316$23780@DIALUPUSA.NET:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent,
for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension,
the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
Propaganda Minister Goebbels
See also: "irony"
--
Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in some
degree to think more sensibly about the dangerous world in which we live.--
David Hackett Fischer, Historians' Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical
Thought, Harper & Row, 1970, p. 306.
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| Title: Re: Loony Limbaugh sez next terror attack fault of democrats |
18 Jun 2005 01:12:54 PM |
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Fascists/propagandists always require a scapegoat.
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| User: "blazing laser none" |
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18 Jun 2005 11:22:03 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:10:57 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
Of course to an admin like Bush's, secrets = national security. This
was the same rationale Nixon used for 'stonewalling' the evidence
about Watergate, the idea that our nation wouldn't be safe if it was
shown that our president was a crooked, lying weasel.
But blaming terrorism on Democrats (or 'liberals') is even worse. The
idea that dissent = subversion, that mere disagreement, encourages
terrorism and therefore isn't to be tolerated. This is the subliminal
subtext of ever 'United We Stand' sign you see--that we all must rally
behind the president (but only if he's Republican) or else our nation
is doomed. Doesn't that idea sound kind of fascistic to you?
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| User: "beber" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:54:56 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:10:57 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
Since Limbaugh's content comes from RNC think tanks, this must mean
another attack will be "engineered" soon. Of course, it will be
softies and lefties who are to blame for it. I wonder what it will be.
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| User: "blazing laser none" |
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18 Jun 2005 11:15:05 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 10:54:56 -0500, beber <buplerum@yahoo.com> wrote:
Since Limbaugh's content comes from RNC think tanks, this must mean
another attack will be "engineered" soon. Of course, it will be
softies and lefties who are to blame for it. I wonder what it will be.
Since Bush was elected his popularity has been in a continual downward
slope. The only exceptions were right after 9/11 and after the starts
of both wars (which we can see now were even worse disasters than
9/11). Since the policymakers of the administration have shown the
willingness to do whatever it takes to fulfill the Bush agenda
regardless of the consequences, it makes one wonder just what they're
planning to bring Bush's numbers back up for another spike.
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| User: "Sh!tMagnet" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:35:56 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:10:57 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Actually, he's right.
Democrats have consistantly BLOCKED and tried to oppose EACH AND EVERY
measure the President has come up to try and stop terrorism, while at
the same time, putting forth NO plan of their own, except to somehow
try and make the rest of Europe do their part in the fighting.
The Dems opposed the Patriotic Act, they opposed keeping war criminals
in military prisons, they've consistently oppsed tighter restrictions
on immigration, they've opposed so-called "profiling" of those who fit
terrorists descriptions, they've opposed measures to deny VISAs to
people who come from countries with know terrorists ties, they've
underminded our morale and the war on terror by comparing the US
troops to Nazis and the Gulags and on and on.,
You can't name ONE thing any Democrat hasn't opposed that would help
us defeat terrorism (or any alternate plans they've come up with that
could help.) The Dems only line these days is "Bush is evil, Bush is
a liar" yada yada like a broken record.
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| User: "Tom Betz" |
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19 Jun 2005 08:03:13 PM |
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Quoth Sh!tMagnet <smagnet@yahoo.com> in
news:dj3cb19ir5taghl9jpln7oo9ov7sth47kf@4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:10:57 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR
HOMICIDE <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
Actually, he's right.
You have been sucking in so much ***** from Fox News and Right-Wing
Hate Radio that you now can do nothing but regurgitate it.
The Dems opposed the Patriotic Act,
There's nothing patriotic about the so-called "PATRIOT Act".
It's about the most un-American piece of legislation to be shoved
through Congress since Wilson's sedition acts.
Reps. Otter of Idaho and Paul of Texas will be surprised to find
that they are Democrats, according to you. As will former Senator
Bob Barr.
In fact, only ONE Senator, Russ Feingold, voted against it in
2001. Every other Democrat Senator voted for it.
Now, please provide me with the number of terrorists that the
Patriot Act has made it possible to arrest and prosecute, that
would not have otherwise been identified and prosecuted.
I'll wait here.
they opposed keeping war criminals in military prisons,
I believe you are lying once again. Provide a citation for this.
they've consistently oppsed tighter restrictions on immigration,
It's GHW Bush and his corporate cronies, who like being able to
pay slave wages to illegal immigrants and get away with it
unpunished, who are preventing restrictions on immigration.
Democrats (especially labor leaders) and true onservative
Republicans alike know the solution -- prosecute those who hire
illegal immigrants, and illegal immigration for economic reasons
will essentially stop.
Once illegals who now cross the border to work stop coming, our
INS will be able to focus on those few illegals who cross the
border for nefarious purposes.
they've underminded our morale and
the war on terror by comparing the US troops to Nazis and the
Gulags
Yet another slanderous lie.
Here is what Durbin said, after having read an FBI memo describing
the criminal abuses an FBI agent observed in Guantanamo:
"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an
FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in
their control, you would most certainly believe this must have
been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad
regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for human
beings."
No comparison of US troops to Nazis. He compared THE CRIMINAL
ACTS DESCRIBED BY THE EYEWITNESS FBI AGENT to the acts of the
Nazis and of the Soviets.
The fascists are not in the battlefield; they are in the White
House, and on Right-Wing Hate Radio.
And you are falling into their trap.
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George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
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| User: "Jim Alder" |
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18 Jun 2005 06:58:49 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:r8e8b15gtd6m9o1kuq4mphvu98kmcjef6u@4ax.com:
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
He's right.
--
Logic is not everything. But it is something--something which can be
taught, something which can be learned, something which can help us in some
degree to think more sensibly about the dangerous world in which we live.--
David Hackett Fischer, Historians' Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical
Thought, Harper & Row, 1970, p. 306.
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| User: "Tim Herr" |
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18 Jun 2005 10:32:22 AM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put
a bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines
in Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and
sacrifice of our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to
do the job. EVERYONE I know feels that way.
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw."
We need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to
do the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going
to go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
I don't hate George Bush. I don't hate (with a few notable exceptions)
the conservatives I know. I'm not attacking them or their faith.
I do think he lied - he wanted us to go into Iraq, and I believe his
Administration fit the intelligence they presented . I do think he's
got rose-colored glasses on with respect to the trouble we're in over there.
I don't love John Kerry or the Democrats. I don't think they're
perfect. I trust them more than I trust Bush, and I'm entitled to say
that, and I'm entitled to say that PUBLICLY without being called a traitor.
I think I'm a lot like most Americans right now ... and we love this
country every bit as much as any conservative.
Tim
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18 Jun 2005 06:20:22 PM |
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"Tim Herr" <tim.herr@cox.net> wrote in message
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show: LIMBAUGH: Let me
tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put a
bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines in
Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and sacrifice of
our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to do the job.
EVERYONE I know feels that way.
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw." We
need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to do
the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going to
go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
I don't hate George Bush. I don't hate (with a few notable exceptions)
the conservatives I know. I'm not attacking them or their faith.
I do think he lied - he wanted us to go into Iraq, and I believe his
Administration fit the intelligence they presented . I do think he's got
rose-colored glasses on with respect to the trouble we're in over there.
I don't love John Kerry or the Democrats. I don't think they're perfect.
I trust them more than I trust Bush, and I'm entitled to say that, and I'm
entitled to say that PUBLICLY without being called a traitor.
I think I'm a lot like most Americans right now ... and we love this
country every bit as much as any conservative.
I would say more --- because we care about the future while these so called
conservatives are very willing to sell out the country's future for a
deficit causing tax break for the rich today.
Tim
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| User: "Nosferatu" |
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18 Jun 2005 11:02:47 AM |
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In article <98Xse.50430$iU.28461@lakeread05>, says...
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put
a bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines
in Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and
sacrifice of our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to
do the job. EVERYONE I know feels that way.
Tell us another tale from Neverland. Liberals love enemies of the United
States.
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw."
We need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to
do the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going
to go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
Let's broadcast to the "insurgents" our next move.
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18 Jun 2005 03:27:13 PM |
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"Nosferatu" wrote
Liberals love enemies of the United States.
Since when have liberals started loving Pugs?
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18 Jun 2005 01:10:51 PM |
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Liberals love enemies of the United States.
Your comment proves that you really are too stupid to be participating
in a discussion of politics. Either that or you're a troll. In either
case, you have nothing to be proud of.
JS
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18 Jun 2005 01:55:00 PM |
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"jstarret" <jstarret@sdc.org> wrote in message
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Liberals love enemies of the United States.
Your comment proves that you really are too stupid to be participating
in a discussion of politics. Either that or you're a troll. In either
case, you have nothing to be proud of.
JS
You must be new to usenet! People on both the left and the right talk like
this on a regular basis!
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18 Jun 2005 11:09:40 AM |
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Nosferatu wrote:
In article <98Xse.50430$iU.28461@lakeread05>, says...
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put
a bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines
in Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and
sacrifice of our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to
do the job. EVERYONE I know feels that way.
Tell us another tale from Neverland. Liberals love enemies of the United
States.
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw."
We need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to
do the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going
to go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
Let's broadcast to the "insurgents" our next move.
Ummm, that would be Geraldo Riveria, wouldn't it? He's on FOX.
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18 Jun 2005 12:20:33 PM |
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In article <98Xse.50430$iU.28461@lakeread05>, Tim Herr
<tim.herr@cox.net> wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put
a bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines
in Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and
sacrifice of our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to
do the job. EVERYONE I know feels that way.
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw."
We need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to
do the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going
to go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
I don't hate George Bush. I don't hate (with a few notable exceptions)
the conservatives I know. I'm not attacking them or their faith.
I do think he lied - he wanted us to go into Iraq, and I believe his
Administration fit the intelligence they presented . I do think he's
got rose-colored glasses on with respect to the trouble we're in over there.
I don't love John Kerry or the Democrats. I don't think they're
perfect. I trust them more than I trust Bush, and I'm entitled to say
that, and I'm entitled to say that PUBLICLY without being called a traitor.
I think I'm a lot like most Americans right now ... and we love this
country every bit as much as any conservative.
Tim
Well said.
Expect to be called a liar and a traitor any minute now.
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19 Jun 2005 07:46:53 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:32:22 -0400, Tim Herr <tim.herr@cox.net> wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Participating in this newsgroup causes me to struggle daily with the
hard-core right's inability to see beyond the nose on their face.
I know plenty of liberals, and there's not one of them who wouldn't put
a bullet in the brain of bin Laden or the knuckleheads killing Marines
in Fallujah. We love America, and we appreciate the efforts and
sacrifice of our troops, and we want them to have the tools they need to
do the job. EVERYONE I know feels that way.
I'm curious, would they shut down Gitmo and/or give the prisioners
lawyers?
Where we part ways with the neo-cons is we don't believe that we should
have been there to begin with. We believe that a standard needs to be
established that says "hey, once we reach this point we can withdraw."
Well, here's the problem with that though, if you give a specific
timeline on withdraw, you're going to give all the terrorist who are
waiting for us to leave an exact moment they can carry out attacks
they're no doubt planning. If Bush were to come on and say, "Okay,
but next week, we're going pull out 1,000 troops from this city, and
then in March, it'll be 2,00 in that city..." then what do you think
will happen? They'd know EXACTLY when the country would be most
vulnerable to attack.
Yes, I agree a time table would be nice, but I understand why, for
security, it would need to be kept as vague as possible. I don't
think they could safely pull out several thousand troops overnight
without something back happened to those left behind. Its going to
have to be a slow and steady process, a couple groups here and leave
without too much notice.
We need to get the right number of people over there to meet whatever
standard that is, because as it stands they don't have enough troops to
do the job that Bush is asking them to do, and that number is just going
to go up as the Brits begin to withdraw their forces.
Well, one the one hand, you're talking withdrawl, but on the other you
say we need MORE troops. How can we accomplish both tasks?
I don't hate George Bush. I don't hate (with a few notable exceptions)
the conservatives I know. I'm not attacking them or their faith.
I do think he lied - he wanted us to go into Iraq, and I believe his
Administration fit the intelligence they presented . I do think he's
got rose-colored glasses on with respect to the trouble we're in over there.
Me, I respectfully buy this. For starters, the CIA, FBI, NSA, and
British Intelligence all told him there was a good chance Saddam still
had weapons (we know for a FACT he DID have them at one point in time,
so that's not in despute.) Even Clinton admitted on a television they
had no way of knowing if they got all of Saddam's weapons when they
did air strikes during his term.
Hell, to me, if Bush Sr hadn't listen to all those idiots in the UN
during the FIRST Gulf War and pulled out before taking Saddam down we
probably wouldn't be in this mess to begin with, but that's a whole
different thread.
I think I'm a lot like most Americans right now ... and we love this
country every bit as much as any conservative.
Well, Tim, you seem like a good person. Unlike a lot of the nutjobs
on this group (on BOTH sides) you seem like someone who'd be worth
debating with. :)
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| Title: Re: Loony Limbaugh sez next terror attack fault of democrats |
18 Jun 2005 02:35:57 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506150006
Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh declared that "if we
get hit again" by terrorists, it will be the fault of Democratic
senators, the mainstream media, and Amnesty International, "who have
names and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to
obstruct our ability to secure intelligence information for our own
national security."
From the June 14 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Let me tell you something, folks, if we are hit again, if we
are hit again, we need to hold these people in our country who are
undermining our efforts responsible. It ain't going to be the FBI's
fault next time. It isn't going to be the CIA's fault next time. It
isn't going to be some bureaucracy's fault next time. It's going to be
the fault of politicians, left-wing groups and the like who have names
and identities and spend their every waking moment trying to obstruct
our ability to secure intelligence information for our own national
security.
You want some names: [Sen. Patrick] Leahy [D-VT], [Sen. Joseph R.]
Biden [D-DE], [Sen. Richard J.] Durbin [D-IL], [Sen. Barbara] Boxer
[D-CA], [Sen. Edward] Kennedy [D-MA], [Senate Majority Leader Harry]
Reid [D-NV], Newsweek, Time, The New York Times, Amnesty
International. If we get hit again, these are the names of the people
and organizations we need to look at when we're trying to find out why
and how it happened.
The Repiglicans are getting more feisty in their fascism. Michael
Savage says that the ACLU IS a terrorist organization. This country is
spiraling downward.
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