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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"grinder" |
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30 Jan 2006 01:28:41 PM |
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Luntz: Teaching Conservatives to Lie about global warming. |
Frank Luntz is a little baby-fat covered punk who deserves a good beating
(wouldn't take much - Michael Jackson could do it). Here are his talking
points to conservatives on how to lie about global warming:
http://www.ewg.org/briefings/luntzmemo/
According to Luntz, when Republicans and lobbyists explain their positions
"correctly," (p. 136), 70% of the public agrees with them. While some parts
of the document delve into sophisticated dos and don'ts, Luntz begins with
advice that adheres to time-tested public relations maneuvers:
a.. "convince them of your sincerity and concern" for the environment" (p.
132)
b.. make use of broad, clear principles - promote "common sense" policy
(p. 131); "people don't understand the technicalities of environmental law -
but they do understand the benefits of conservation of water, land, and open
spaces" (p. 135)
c.. unite Americans by emphasizing our shared rights and beliefs: "we all
want to move towards a healthier, safer future" (p.131); "we all
want/deserve clean air/water" (p.134)
Luntz advises that, "'Climate change' is less frightening than 'global
warming.' ... While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to
it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional
challenge" (p. 142).
And, despite years of intensive study by and near-universal scientific
agreement that global warming is happening and that human beings are at
least contributing to it, Luntz urges his readers to assert that the country
needs more accurate, "up-to-date" information before deciding to take
action. By coaching his clients and allies to portray the scientific
community as divided on the issue when it is not, they can block action on
the problem while appearing well intentioned.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: Luntz: Teaching Conservatives to Lie about global warming. |
31 Jan 2006 12:17:54 AM |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:28:41 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
Frank Luntz is a little baby-fat covered punk who deserves a good beating
(wouldn't take much - Michael Jackson could do it). Here are his talking
points to conservatives on how to lie about global warming:
Should I expect a reasonable discussion to follow?
http://www.ewg.org/briefings/luntzmemo/
According to Luntz, when Republicans and lobbyists explain their positions
"correctly," (p. 136), 70% of the public agrees with them. While some parts
of the document delve into sophisticated dos and don'ts, Luntz begins with
advice that adheres to time-tested public relations maneuvers:
a.. "convince them of your sincerity and concern" for the environment" (p.
132)
b.. make use of broad, clear principles - promote "common sense" policy
(p. 131); "people don't understand the technicalities of environmental law -
but they do understand the benefits of conservation of water, land, and open
spaces" (p. 135)
c.. unite Americans by emphasizing our shared rights and beliefs: "we all
want to move towards a healthier, safer future" (p.131); "we all
want/deserve clean air/water" (p.134)
Luntz advises that, "'Climate change' is less frightening than 'global
warming.' ... While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to
it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional
challenge" (p. 142).
And, despite years of intensive study by and near-universal scientific
agreement that global warming is happening and that human beings are at
least contributing to it, Luntz urges his readers to assert that the country
needs more accurate, "up-to-date" information before deciding to take
action. By coaching his clients and allies to portray the scientific
community as divided on the issue when it is not, they can block action on
the problem while appearing well intentioned.
No.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Luntz: Teaching Conservatives to Lie about global warming. |
31 Jan 2006 04:22:55 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:e60ut15ji1a7v59vve7s1onr15rolkg4s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:28:41 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
Frank Luntz is a little baby-fat covered punk who deserves a good beating
(wouldn't take much - Michael Jackson could do it). Here are his talking
points to conservatives on how to lie about global warming:
Should I expect a reasonable discussion to follow?
Not from grinder, and even less from the other moon-bat who jumped into this
discussion (hc)...
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| User: "grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Luntz: Teaching Conservatives to Lie about global warming. |
31 Jan 2006 10:16:43 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:e60ut15ji1a7v59vve7s1onr15rolkg4s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:28:41 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
Frank Luntz is a little baby-fat covered punk who deserves a good beating
(wouldn't take much - Michael Jackson could do it). Here are his talking
points to conservatives on how to lie about global warming:
Should I expect a reasonable discussion to follow?
Since it is your post I doubt it.
The icing on the cake will be stan de sd weighing in with a post that is no
way connected to the original.
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| User: "Stan de SD" |
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| Title: Re: Luntz: Teaching Conservatives to Lie about global warming. |
07 Feb 2006 02:03:18 AM |
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"grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:L3MDf.8832$1n4.3348@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:e60ut15ji1a7v59vve7s1onr15rolkg4s9@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:28:41 GMT, "grinder" <seagle@earthlink.invalid>
wrote:
Frank Luntz is a little baby-fat covered punk who deserves a good
beating
(wouldn't take much - Michael Jackson could do it). Here are his
talking
points to conservatives on how to lie about global warming:
Should I expect a reasonable discussion to follow?
Since it is your post I doubt it.
The icing on the cake will be stan de sd weighing in with a post that is
no
way connected to the original.
You mean I bring up facts whenever you start blathering, right?
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