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"Ramabriga" |
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26 Nov 2007 01:46:35 PM |
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Major Obama Website Now Supports Ron Paul |
RON PAUL
http://www.obamala.com/
Marc Whittemore, who started and ran ObamaLA.com, has a change of heart.
My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group ObamaLA and carried
it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more homework now I am
inclined to switch my vote.
Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME President -- far better
than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However. In case you have
not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the tubes FAST. We no
longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and get it right
this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if we are to get
it right.
And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years of voting I will
be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul. Listen people.
And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the last, we can ill
afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend on making the
right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice this time.
Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
Los Angeles, CA
http://www.obamala.com/
Article published Nov 8, 2007
Paul: Supporters buying into stance on Iraq
By KEVIN LANDRIGAN
Telegraph Staff
NASHUA – Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said his opposition to the Iraq
war, his strict adherence to the Constitution and calls to change the monetary standard
all fueled his GOP fundraising record via the Internet.
"I think the attention-getter is the war because it's a big issue, but I think that
prompts a lot of people to go look at our Web site and say, 'Oh, I agree with these
other issues,' " Paul said during an interview with The Telegraph editorial board on
Wednesday.
The 72-year-old, soft-spoken Texas congressman already had a legendary individual donor
base, the third largest in Congress as far back as 1994.
"I have always done my fundraising by direct mail. I have never been able to call
people up and say, 'hey, send me some money,' and I don't deal with the special
interests," Paul said.
"Do you realize how many mailings you would have to send out to get 20,000 new people?
Many, many pieces of mail, hundreds of thousands of dollars and yet, this money all
came in for free. All of the sudden they found us, sent money and are on our list. It's
sort of like on autopilot now."
Despite the newfound largesse, Paul is mired in single digits in New Hampshire and
national polls. But he insists a surprise showing in the first-in-the-nation primary is
possible even though he's campaigned here less than better-known candidates.
He shrugs off criticism that his Iraq war opposition is a losing issue with a GOP base
who, by a clear majority, want to finish the job of helping that country form a
power-sharing government among secular factions.
"They say I'm anti-military, but who has the most contributors of any candidate,
Democrat or Republican, from our fighting men and women? I do," said Paul, an Air Force
surgeon during the Vietnam War era.
Paul was the only Republican in Congress to oppose the Iraq war in 2002.
If elected, Paul would withdraw all American troops from Iraq and opposes spending any
more foreign or domestic aid to rebuild the country.
"They are a rich country, they have oil, and that's how it should be paid for," Paul said.
"We have to give up the principle of blowing things up around the world, as well as
rebuilding. The sooner we do that, the sooner we can get back to fiscal sanity."
The threat of Iran developing a nuclear weapon has been overblown, and their chances of
using one are "slim to none," he said.
"We either subsidize people or we bomb them. Why not try another option?" Paul asked.
"We shouldn't get hysterical that in 10 years or more they might have a nuclear weapon."
Paul voted to authorize force against the Taliban in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11
terrorist attacks but said Bush turned it into a nation-building exercise.
To confront terrorists bent on violence against the U.S., Paul would pursue a "marque
and reprisal" provision used by the Founding Fathers to empower private individuals to
bring pirates to justice using legal means.
"I would place a lot more confidence in a Ross Perot approach to going after a band of
individuals who orchestrated that against us," Paul said.
At least $200 billion a year would be saved by getting out of Iraq and cutting back on
U.S. foreign intervention in 130 countries, Paul said.
Even taxpayer-paid humanitarian aid to treat the genocide in Darfur is not a wise
course, he added.
"There is not much evidence that much of this is successful, some of it has been, but
we are also broke," Paul said.
"If the government got out of it, private individuals would come forward. The American
people are very generous."
Paul claims he's voted against any increase in taxes during his 19 years in Congress
and against more than 90 percent of federal spending bills.
He would focus first on cutting foreign aid before pursuing a desire to get rid of
wholesale, federal agencies like the Departments of Education, Internal Revenue Service
and Federal Reserve.
"In spite of the fact philosophically I don't support the programs, they should never
have been started and it is part of the problem, but it is not part of the early
answer," Paul said.
A gynecologist who's delivered 4,000 babies, Paul opposes legal abortions, but believes
states should be left to make restrictions on the procedure and is against a
constitutional ban.
Paul said anti-abortion leaders ignored his call to claim federal courts have no
jurisdiction as when the Supreme Court overturned a congressional ban on late-term
abortions.
And Paul said the practice of printing more money has made the U.S. a record debtor
nation, and he would reinstitute gold and silver as alternatives to paper currency.
"History shows that paper never lasts. It ends terribly," Paul said.PAUL ON THE ISSUES
Here are opinions of Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas on major issues.
IRAQ WAR: Only Republican member of Congress to vote against war in 2002 and would
withdraw all U.S. troops in three to six months.
IMMIGRATION REFORM: Supports strengthening borders with more federal patrols and
enforcing laws against employers who hire illegal aliens. Opposes guest worker or any
form of amnesty to the 12 million people who got here illegally.
HEALTH CARE: Supports free market solutions such as health savings accounts and
transitioning a refundable tax credit so more families can afford health-care coverage;
voted to let citizens buy and bring cheaper drugs from Canada into the U.S.
EDUCATION: Voted against No Child Left Behind; supports $3,000 tax credit for families
who participate in school choice. Opposes school vouchers as philosophically that means
other taxpayers are subsidizing another family’s schooling. He supports home schooling.
FEDERAL BUDGET/TAXES: During 19-year congressional career, Paul said he’s never voted
for a bill to raise taxes and voted against most federal budget spending bills. Would
dismantle the Internal Revenue Service, repeal the federal income tax and is open to a
national sales tax in its place, but only if the Congress made deep cuts in federal
spending first.
ABORTION: Has an anti-abortion voting record, but opposes a constitutional amendment to
ban abortion and instead favors letting states restrict the procedure as they see fit.
Urges supporters to contend the federal judiciary that outlaws abortion restrictions
lacks jurisdiction to take up the issue.
GLOBAL WARMING: Restrictions on pollution should be done at the state rather than
federal level. He favors federal tax credits for research of alternative energy sources
and says expansion of nuclear power is a “safe, clean” way to cut back use of fossil fuels.
GAY MARRIAGE: Would let the states set restrictions on marriage and voted against
federal Defense of Marriage Act in 2004. Says marriage is a religious institution, but
would not oppose states issuing licenses that recognized the union of same-sex partners.
STEM-CELL RESEARCH FUNDING: Supports expansion of research, but opposes federal funding
for it.
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071108/NEWS08/311080111
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| User: "Vandar" |
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| Title: Re: Major Obama Website Now Supports Ron Paul |
26 Nov 2007 02:51:20 PM |
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Ramabriga wrote:
RON PAUL
http://www.obamala.com/
Marc Whittemore, who started and ran ObamaLA.com, has a change of heart.
My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group
ObamaLA and carried
it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more
homework now I am
inclined to switch my vote.
Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME
President -- far better
than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However. In
case you have
not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the
tubes FAST. We no
longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and
get it right
this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if
we are to get
it right.
And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years
of voting I will
be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul.
Listen people.
And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the
last, we can ill
afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend
on making the
right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice
this time.
Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
"substancially"
"AWESOME"
"flush momentum"
"the luxury of voting along party lines"
"And so."
"I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron
Paul."
This guy is 50 years old and still hasn't figured out that his poor
education, blind partisanship, and "sky is falling" mentality is the
problem, not the answer.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Major Obama Website Now Supports Ron Paul |
26 Nov 2007 06:06:13 PM |
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"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:clG2j.21381$B25.17573@news01.roc.ny...
Ramabriga wrote:
RON PAUL
http://www.obamala.com/
Marc Whittemore, who started and ran ObamaLA.com, has a change of heart.
My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group
ObamaLA and carried
it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more
homework now I am
inclined to switch my vote.
Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME
President -- far better
than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However. In
case you have
not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the
tubes FAST. We no
longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and
get it right
this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if
we are to get
it right.
And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years of
voting I will
be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul.
Listen people.
And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the
last, we can ill
afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend on
making the
right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice this
time.
Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
"substancially"
"AWESOME"
"flush momentum"
"the luxury of voting along party lines"
"And so."
"I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron
Paul."
This guy is 50 years old and still hasn't figured out that his poor
education, blind partisanship, and "sky is falling" mentality is the
problem, not the answer.
Not to mention the fact that Paul has a fart's chance in a windstorm of
winning the RNC nomination.
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| User: "Ramabriga" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press |
27 Nov 2007 06:15:26 AM |
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http://www.wtprn.com/
From Monsters and Critics.com
US News
Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press
By M&C US News
Nov 25, 2007, 20:46 GMT
Practically written off as an incendiary, racist and even plain old kook by prominent
reporters for organizations like the AP, FOX and CNN, GOP hopeful Ron Paul keeps going
and going; his supporters are seemingly impervious to the barbs that paint them as
disenfranchised and off the grid malcontents.
The AP recently wrote: "The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in fundraising
proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be drawn to an advocate of
unorthodox proposals."
GOP pollster Frank Luntz denounced Paul's supporters as "the equivalent of crabgrass .
.. . not the grass you want, and it spreads faster than the real stuff."
Conservative columnist Mona Charen said: "He might make a dandy new leader for the
Branch Davidians."
Dr. Paul is a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate, he has called for
abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, the CIA and several Cabinet-level agencies.
Dr. Paul is a staunch opponent of abortion, he nonetheless believes that federal bans
violate the basic principle of delegating powers to the states.
Dr. Paul is in favor of increased immigration enforcement and a border wall with Mexico
and he is the only GOP candidate to come out against any form of national I.D. card.
Dr. Paul's demands for a constitutionally pared-down government has won an interesting
array of supporters, including singer-songwriters John Mayer and Barry Manilow.
On ABC's "This Week" George Will cautioned fellow pundits, "Don't forget my man Ron
Paul" in the New Hampshire primary. Jake Tapper added: "He really is the one true
straight talker in this race."
Dr. Paul's campaign, which is three-quarters of the way to its goal of raising "$12
Million to Win" by Dec. 31, had an outside party organize the fundraising efforts.
All of these facts are unsettling to mainstream organizations and lobby members of
special interests who would fall under a Paul presidency. The authoritarian
establishment feels threatened according to some observers.
Not since Ross Perot made a go of running as an Independent, have so many Americans
from such disparate backgrounds joined forces to defeat politics as usual.
Paul's entire platform is based on the fundamental notion that a smaller government
allows individuals the freedom to pursue happiness as they see fit.
Reason.com editors Nick Gillespie and Matt Welch were published in the Washington-Post
and write that "in the 1990s, conservative Republicans rose to power by relentlessly
attacking Big Government. Yet the minute they took control of both ends of Pennsylvania
Avenue, they kicked out the jams on even a semblance of fiscal responsibility, signing
off on the Medicare prescription drug benefit and building literal and figurative
bridges to nowhere. From 2001 to 2008, federal outlays will have grown by an estimated
29 percent in inflation-adjusted terms, according to the Office of Management and Budget."
The reporters suggest that the hatred Americans feel over the costly and poorly planned
and executed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan only fuels Dr. Paul's "engine powering his
grass-roots success" - illuminating even the democrats are hopeless at halting the war
machine built up by the Bush administration..
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:clG2j.21381$B25.17573@news01.roc.ny...
Ramabriga wrote:
RON PAUL
http://www.obamala.com/
Marc Whittemore, who started and ran ObamaLA.com, has a change of heart.
My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group
ObamaLA and carried
it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more
homework now I am
inclined to switch my vote.
Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME
President -- far better
than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However. In
case you have
not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the
tubes FAST. We no
longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and
get it right
this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if
we are to get
it right.
And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years of
voting I will
be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul.
Listen people.
And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the
last, we can ill
afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend on
making the
right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice this
time.
Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
"substancially"
"AWESOME"
"flush momentum"
"the luxury of voting along party lines"
"And so."
"I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron
Paul."
This guy is 50 years old and still hasn't figured out that his poor
education, blind partisanship, and "sky is falling" mentality is the
problem, not the answer.
Not to mention the fact that Paul has a fart's chance in a windstorm of
winning the RNC nomination.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press |
27 Nov 2007 12:38:47 PM |
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On Nov 27, 4:15 am, Ramabriga <Ramabr...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.wtprn.com/
From Monsters and Critics.com
US News
Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press
By M&C US News
Nov 25, 2007, 20:46 GMT
Practically written off as an incendiary, racist and even plain old kook by prominent
reporters for organizations like the AP, FOX and CNN, GOP hopeful Ron Paul keeps going
and going; his supporters are seemingly impervious to the barbs that paint them as
disenfranchised and off the grid malcontents.
The AP recently wrote: "The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in fundraising
proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be drawn to an advocate of
unorthodox proposals."
Looking at his so-call unorthodox proposals, I find all of them to be
very reasonable..
Name some policy planks that are 'unorthodox'.
PS: How more unorthodox can you get than to lie a war into existence,
kill over a million people, and spend over a Trillion dollars.. for no
apparent reason?
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press |
27 Nov 2007 11:05:46 AM |
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[top posting corrected]
"Ramabriga" <Ramabriga@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:474bfe85$0$26089$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:clG2j.21381$B25.17573@news01.roc.ny...
Ramabriga wrote:
RON PAUL
http://www.obamala.com/
Marc Whittemore, who started and ran ObamaLA.com, has a change of
heart.
My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group
ObamaLA and carried
it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more
homework now I am
inclined to switch my vote.
Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME
President -- far better
than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However.
In case you have
not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the
tubes FAST. We no
longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right
and get it right
this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if
we are to get
it right.
And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years
of voting I will
be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul.
Listen people.
And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the
last, we can ill
afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend
on making the
right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice
this time.
Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
"substancially"
"AWESOME"
"flush momentum"
"the luxury of voting along party lines"
"And so."
"I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron
Paul."
This guy is 50 years old and still hasn't figured out that his poor
education, blind partisanship, and "sky is falling" mentality is the
problem, not the answer.
Not to mention the fact that Paul has a fart's chance in a windstorm of
winning the RNC nomination.
http://www.wtprn.com/
From Monsters and Critics.com
US News
Ron Paul's growing poll numbers vex mainstream press
By M&C US News
Nov 25, 2007, 20:46 GMT
Practically written off as an incendiary, racist and even plain old kook
by prominent reporters for organizations like the AP, FOX and CNN, GOP
hopeful Ron Paul keeps going and going; his supporters are seemingly
impervious to the barbs that paint them as disenfranchised and off the
grid malcontents.
The AP recently wrote: "The Texas libertarian's rise in the polls and in
fundraising proves that a small but passionate number of Americans can be
drawn to an advocate of unorthodox proposals."
GOP pollster Frank Luntz denounced Paul's supporters as "the equivalent of
crabgrass . . . not the grass you want, and it spreads faster than the
real stuff."
Conservative columnist Mona Charen said: "He might make a dandy new leader
for the Branch Davidians."
Dr. Paul is a former Libertarian Party presidential candidate, he has
called for abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, the CIA and several
Cabinet-level agencies.
Dr. Paul is a staunch opponent of abortion, he nonetheless believes that
federal bans violate the basic principle of delegating powers to the
states.
Dr. Paul is in favor of increased immigration enforcement and a border
wall with Mexico and he is the only GOP candidate to come out against any
form of national I.D. card.
Dr. Paul's demands for a constitutionally pared-down government has won an
interesting array of supporters, including singer-songwriters John Mayer
and Barry Manilow.
On ABC's "This Week" George Will cautioned fellow pundits, "Don't forget
my man Ron Paul" in the New Hampshire primary. Jake Tapper added: "He
really is the one true straight talker in this race."
Dr. Paul's campaign, which is three-quarters of the way to its goal of
raising "$12 Million to Win" by Dec. 31, had an outside party organize the
fundraising efforts.
All of these facts are unsettling to mainstream organizations and lobby
members of special interests who would fall under a Paul presidency. The
authoritarian establishment feels threatened according to some observers.
Not since Ross Perot made a go of running as an Independent, have so many
Americans from such disparate backgrounds joined forces to defeat politics
as usual.
Paul isn't running as an Independent.
And Perot got 8% of the popular vote, with a whole lot more money than Paul
has.
Paul's entire platform is based on the fundamental notion that a smaller
government allows individuals the freedom to pursue happiness as they see
fit.
So he should be going after the Libertarian nomination, except that no
Libertarian presidential candidate has ever gotten more than 1% of the vote.
[snip]
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