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12 Feb 2007 06:36:12 PM |
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more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
more & more people now realize that airliners filled with jetfuel
could NOT, and did not bring down the twin towers,
or Building 7.
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| User: "Jim E" |
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12 Feb 2007 09:37:43 PM |
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"Air Raid" <airraidfighter@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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15 Feb 2007 05:48:30 AM |
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Jim E wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfighter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
Go on ebay and bid on a clue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
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| User: "jon" |
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22 Feb 2007 11:55:20 AM |
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On 13 Feb, 04:37, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
idiot!
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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22 Feb 2007 02:25:19 PM |
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jon wrote:
On 13 Feb, 04:37, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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22 Feb 2007 03:04:52 PM |
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In article <hLKdnQz6u6-tYUDYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
Hatto von Aquitanien <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote:
jon wrote:
On 13 Feb, 04:37, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
Speak english. Make your point, don't just point to a video.
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22 Feb 2007 04:47:54 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
In article <hLKdnQz6u6-tYUDYnZ2dnUVZ_oGlnZ2d@speakeasy.net>,
Hatto von Aquitanien <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote:
jon wrote:
On 13 Feb, 04:37, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
Jim E
idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
Speak english. Make your point, don't just point to a video.
www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/MindWar.pdf
http://www.schillerinstitut.dk/Spoon-benders/Michael%20Auino.jpg
Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million
Bonacci article - Des Moines Register
Reprint ordering information
Quote of actual judgement at bottom of this page
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This summary was copied from this web link:
http://library.northernlight.com/BM19990301010044634.html?cb=0&sc=0#doc
Judge makes $1 million award
Summary:
in porn lawsuit A federal judge in Lincoln, Neb., has awarded $1
million to an Omaha man who claimed the former manager of a defunct
Omaha credit union forced him into child pornography years ago.
Senior U.S. District Judge Warren Urbom said the judgment for Paul
Bonacci, 31, was a "fair amount" for mental and physical injuries
Bonacci attributed to Lawrence King.
Source: The Des Moines Register
Date: 02/24/1999
Price: $2.95
Document Size: Very Short (less than 1 page)
Document ID: BM19990301010044634
Subject(s): LOCAL/REGIONAL
Citation Information: Issue: PSA-2292; Metro Iowa Section
Author(s): Santiago Frank
Copyright Holder: 1999, The Des Moines Register
Document Type: Article
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Email version of Bonacci article
Submitted courtesy Kathy Kasten
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Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million
http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37ef8e1f479f.htm
U.S. government mind control programs, like MK-Ultra and Monarch,
directed against helpless victims--human guinea pigs--have been
virtually ignored by the Big Media Cartel. On Feb. 27, 1999,
however, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found former
Franklin S&L manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes
committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci.
King, serving a 15-year sentence for his role in the theft of $40
million from Franklin, an Omaha, Neb., credit union, was ordered by
Judge Urbom to pay Bonacci $800,000 in compensatory damages and an
additional $200,000 in punitive damages.
This legal judgement against a notorious perpetrator of
satanic-ritual child abuse is unprecedented. In the Memorandum of
Decision, Judge Urbom wrote, "King continually subjected the
plaintiff [Bonacci] to repeated sexual assaults, false
imprisonment, infliction of extreme emotional distress, organized
and directed satanic rituals, forced the plaintiff to 'scavenge'
for children to be a part of the defendant King's sexual abuse and
pornography ring, forced the plaintiff to engage in numerous sexual
contacts with the defendant King and others and participate in
deviate sexual games and masochistic orgies with other minor
children.
"He [Bonacci] has suffered burns, broken fingers, beatings of the
head and face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the
defendant King," the judge declared. "In addition to the misery of
going through the experiences just related over a period of eight
years [1980-1988], the plaintiff has suffered the lingering results
to the present time. "He [Bonacci] is a victim of multiple
personality disorder, involving as many as 14 distinct
personalities aside from his primary personality," wrote the judge.
"He has given up a desired military career and received threats on
his life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams, has
difficulty holding a job, is fearful that others are following him,
fears getting killed, has depressing flashbacks, and is verbally
violent on occasion, all in connection with the multiple
personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities of the
defendant King."
Franklin Coverup
Bonacci's lawyer, John DeCamp, has waged a long, lonely and
expensive legal campaign in exposing crimes involving an
international pedophile-pornography ring.
In 1991, DeCamp filed a 12-count suit in federal court, charging 16
prominent individuals and institutions, including Lawrence E. King,
Omaha World Herald Publisher Harold Andersen and the Omaha Police
Department with conspiracy to deprive Paul Bonacci of his civil
rights. DeCamp's suit detailed slander, false imprisonment, child
abuse, assault, battery and infliction of emotional distress
suffered by Bonacci.
The complex case also involved high-level politicians, business
leaders, judges and police officials with connections to the drug
distribution/money laundering operations known as "Iran"-Contra
which goes back to then Vice-President George Bush. DeCamp, a
former Nebraska State Senator, even wrote a groundbreaking book
about the sordid history of the case called The Franklin Cover-Up:
Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska.
Monarch Project
The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America
who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S.
government agencies such as the Central Intelligence Agency or
military intelligence agencies," writes DeCamp. "The story told by
Monarch victims--one of whom was Paul Bonacci--is that they were
tortured for the purpose of creating 'multiple personalities'
within them," DeCamp continues from his book. "These multiple
personalities could then be programmed--as spies, 'drug mules,'
prostitutes or assassins."
An article by Anton Chaitkin, quoted in the book, states that
"professionals probing the child victims of 'Monarch' say there are
clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military,
and cooperating satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are
multi-generation groups, whose parents donate their own
children--who are proudly called 'bloodline' or simply 'blood'
cultists--to be smashed with drugs and electric shock and shaped.
Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are
brought in gradually through day care situations.
"Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great
depth on the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this
depravity," continues Chaitkin. "Aquino, alleged to have recently
retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an
Army psychological warfare section which drew on his 'expertise'
and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism,
homosexual pedophilia and murder." DeCamp's victory in court and
the million dollar judgement is a vindication of mind control
survivors Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owens and others who were falsely
imprisoned to keep them from testifying against their abusers.
Police and FBI Cover-Up
According to the sworn testimony of Noreen Gosch, an activist on
behalf of "Missing Children," whose own 12-year-old son Johnny, a
West Des Moines, Iowa paperboy kidnapped in 1991, was drugged and
sold into prostitution and pornography. "There was no law on the
books in Iowa or most any other state in the country specifying
that the police would have to act sooner than 72 hours-even though
we had five witnesses that could describe the car, the man and
various details of the kidnapping. So I wrote the first piece of
legislation which became the Johnny Gosch Bill.
Gosch also alleges that the FBI were active in quashing a TV
expose. "Just prior to the 'America's Most Wanted' story going on
the air...within a week or two of airtime, the FBI in Quantico,
Virg. contacted 'America's Most Wanted' and told them to kill the
story," Gosch continued. They did not want the Johnny Gosch story
broadcast," she says. The only reason the story went on is because
John Walsh is a personal friend, and he stood up to them, and he
said this story goes. This woman does not lie. I've known her for
years. We're going with the story. You can fire me afterwards.
We're doing the story.
And they did the story. But the FBI tried to kill this story."
When DeCamp, the attorney, asked her if she knew why, she replied,
"Well, of course. It would have opened up the biggest scandal in
the United States, bigger than the Iran-Contra story. Bigger than
President Clinton's infidelities." The Satanic-Military MK-Ultra
Mind Control Connection Continuing her sworn testimony, Noreen
Gosch spoke about "the MK-Ultra program developed in the 1950s by
the CIA. It was used to help spy on other countries during the Cold
War because they felt that the other countries were spying on us.
It was very successful.
"...Then there was a man by the name of Michael Aquino. He was in
the military. He had top Pentagon clearance. He was a Satanist.
He's founded the Temple of Set. And he was also a very close friend
of Anton LaVey [the late founder of the Church of Satan].
The two of them were very active in ritualistic sexual abuse. And
they deferred funding from this government program to use this
experimentation upon children where they deliberately split off the
personalities of these children into multiples, so that when
they're questioned, or put under oath, or questioned under lie
detector, that unless the operator knows how to question a multiple
personality disorder they turn up with no evidence.
"They use these kids to sexually compromise politicians or anyone
else they wish to have control of," Gosch continued. "This sounds
so far out and so bizarre. I had trouble accepting it in the
beginning myself, until I was presented with the data. We have the
proof. In black and white."
DeCamp asked her, "You known that Colonel Aquino was drummed out of
the military?" "He was," replied Gosch. "But then there were no
charges filed against him that stuck [the San Francisco Presidio
child abuse allegations]...I know that Michael Aquino has been in
Iowa. I know that Michael Aquino has been to Offutt Air Force Base
[described by numerous victims as a center of mind control-ritual
abuse]. I know that he had contact with many of these children."
Bonacci's Story
One of the most heart-rendering parts of the court transcript is
the testimony of Paul A. Bonacci, the mind control victim survivor,
on whose behalf DeCamp sued Lawrence E. King. Bonacci testifed
that King took him on many trips to Washington, D.C., Kansas City,
Chicago, Minnesota and Los Angeles, where he prostituted the
kidnapped and drugged youngster to the rich and famous--and
depraved.
Bonacci said that "one person I'm not afraid to talk about because
Larry King always said him and this guy were on opposite ends of
the field because this guy was a Democrat and Larry King was a
Republican...And this guy--every time I see him on TV, my wife
knows my hatred for him...His name is Barney Frank."
When asked if he "relationships" with him, Bonacci replied, "In
Washington, D.C. And also I was sent to a house, I believe it was
in Massachusetts in Boston where I believe it was his house because
there's pictures on the wall with him and different people and
stuff, that he had met I guess, but it was in his basement.
Suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder, currently called
Dissassociative Identity Disorder (DID), Bonacci testified that as
one of his alters called Wesley, he lured Johnny Gosch into the van
when he was kidnapped.
"I went up to him, asked him [Gosch] a question," said Bonacci. "At
that point he was close enough to the car where Tony [another
kidnapper] had pulled up in the van and they pushed him in the car
and they had a rag with chloroform in the bag that they had us
stick over his face. And then put it back in the bag after he was
out...We drove several miles...we met up with a station wagon and a
van several times."
After switching vehicles and changing direction, the kidnapping of
Johnny Gosch was over.
More Chilling Memories
When the judge asked Paul Bonacci if Lawrence E. King ever sexually
abused him, he answered, "Yes, he did on numerous occasions." How
many times would you estimate, the judge then asked. "Probably a
couple of hundred. Within all of the different personalities.
Beginning at the time I was approximately 12 or 13 years old. Up
until I was about 17 or 18."
And what was his primary duty, according to directions he received
from Mr. King, asked the judge. "It depended on what was needed,"
replied Bonacci. "Most of the time it was to compromise politicians
so he could get whatever he wanted from them...If they wanted to
get something passed, through the legislature or whatever, he would
put some people that were against it in a compromising position, by
using us boys and girls." And how often was he used at these
"parties" in Washington? the judge asked.
"Kind of hard to say," replied Bonacci. "Because there were times
when there would be four or five in a night. And I hardly knew, I
didn't know most of them. But probably a couple of thousand times."
New Ramifications Since the judgement in favor of Paul Bonacci
contradicts the previous findings of the U.S. Attorney, Nebraska
Attorney General, and the entire judicial system regarding the
"Franklin Cover-Up,"
DeCamp has issued an open letter challenging the verdicts of the
last ten years of court battles regarding this case and its
principals. DeCamp wrote, "I believe that the U.S. Attorney has no
choice but to either charge the witnesses with perjury having
testified under oath in a federal court...or the U.S. Attorney has
an obligation to investigate further into the Franklin saga and
reopen matters.
"This time there are pictures [tens of thousands of pornographic
photos taken by Rusty Nelson], continues DeCamp. "This time Rusty
Nelson [King's former porno photographer] exists and testified
completely contrary to Chief Wadman's testimony under oath to the
legislature. This time Noreen Gosch validated the credibility and
story of Paul Bonacci...At a minimum some Federal or State
authority has an obligation to reopen the Alisha Owen case."
Alisha Owen, another mind control victim, was sent to prison for 15
years for refusing to recant her testimony against her abusers,
namely former Omaha Police Chief Wadman. Despite this victory, the
mind control cover-up continues-as long as Alisha Owen and others
remain in prison.
And the Monarch Program? As more and more survivors appear and give
eyewitness accounts of mind control atrocities, these outrageous
human rights abuses-the Secret Holocaust of the 20th Century-will
finally become common knowledge.
Bibliography
Constantine, Alex. Virtual Government: CIA Mind Control Operations
in America (1997); $14.95; Feral House, 2532 Lincoln Blvd., Suite
359, Venice CA 90291.
DeCamp, John. The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism and
Murder in Nebraska (1996); $12.95; AWT, Inc., P.O. Box 85461,
Lincoln, NE 68501
Mind Control Foundation Website: http://www.mk.net/wmcf. Sullivan,
K. MK (1998) $18; K. Sullivan, Box 1328, Soddy Daisy, TN 37384.
Taylor, Brice. Starshine: One Woman's Valiant Escape from Mind
Control (1995);
Brice Taylor Trust, P.O. Box 655, Landrum, S.C. 29356.
Dowbenko is CEO of New Improved Entertainment Corp., and can be
reached by email at: u.dowbenko@mailcity.com.
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In the United States District Court
For the District of Nebraska
Paul A. Bonacci, Plaintiff 4:CV91-3037
vs
Lawrence E. King, Defendant Memorandum of Decision
Filed February 22, 1999
On February 27, 1998, I found that default judgment should be
entered against the defendant Lawrence E. King in favor of the
plaintiff, Paul A. Bonacci. A trial on the issue of the damages due
the plaintiff by that defendant was had on February 5, 1999.
Two counts are alleged against the defendant: King in the
complaint. Count V alleges a conspiracy with public officers to
deprive the plaintiff of his civil rights, designed to continue to
subject the plaintiff to emotional abuse and to prevent him from
informing authorities of criminal conduct. Count VIII charges
battery, false imprisonment, infliction of emotional distress,
negligence and conspiracy to deprive the plaintiff of civil rights.
Between December 1980 and 1988, the complaint alleges, the
defendant King continually subjected the plaintiff to repeated
sexual assaults, false imprisonments, infliction of extreme
emotional distress, organized and directed satanic rituals, forced
the plaintiff to "scavenge" for children to be a part of the
defendant King's sexual abuse and pornography ring, forced the
plaintiff to engage in numerous masochistic orgies with other minor
children. The defendant King's default has made those allegations
true against him. The issue now is the relief to be granted
monetarily.
The now uncontradicted evidence is that the plaintiff has suffered
much. He has suffered burns, broken fingers, beating of the head
and face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the
defendant King. In addition to the misery of going through the
experiences just related over a period of eight years, the
plaintiff has suffered the lingering results to the present time.
He is a victim of multiple personality disorder, involving as many
as fourteen distinct personalities aside from his primary
personality. He has given up a desired military career and received
threats on his life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams,
has difficulty in holding a job, is fearful that others are
following him, fears getting killed, has depressing flashbacks, and
is verbally violent on occasion, all in connection with the
multiple personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities
of the defendant King.
Almost certainly the defendant King has little remaining financial
resources, but a fair judgment to compensate the plaintiff is
necessary. For the sixteen years since the abuse of the plaintiff
began I conclude that a fair compensation for the damages he has
suffered is $800,000. A punitive damage award also is justified,
but the amount needs to be limited because of the small effect that
such a judgment would have on the defendant King, given his
financial condition and presence in prison. I deem the punitive
damage award of $200,000 to be adequate. Dated February 19, 1999.
By the Court /s/Warren Urborn United States Senior District Judge
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23 Feb 2007 01:34:28 AM |
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On Feb 22, 4:47 pm, Hatto von Aquitanien <a...@AugiaDives.hre> wrote:
Bonacci article
Franklin Coverup
Monarch Project
Police and FBI Cover-Up
Johnny Gosch story
Excellent information. I was reading about Operation Monarch earlier
today - it's terrifying to say the least.
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| User: "The King of Men" |
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24 Feb 2007 02:48:11 AM |
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9/11: The Birth of Treason (Feb 13, 2007)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-710213549148507636
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| User: "Ormen Lange" |
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24 Feb 2007 06:56:26 PM |
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On 24 Feb, 09:48, "The King of Men" <the_king_0f_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
9/11: The Birth of Treason (Feb 13, 2007)http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-710213549148507636
Are we supposed to leave all rational thought when it comes to 911???
we have to be rational sometimes.
we have to ask serious questions on what reality really is.
what are the actual facts.
what is the unquestionable evidence we have?
what is totally and unavoidably self-evident in this world?
have governments ever had a problem killing people?
have governments ever had a problem killing their opponents?
have governments ever had a problem killing innocents?
have governments ever had a problem killing its own citizens?
If so, then why and how did the US administrations manage to kill
hundreds of thousands of people throughout the 20th century both on
its own and by proxies and puppet regimes and thug armies?
How could US administrations support the killings of hundreds of
thousands civillian central americans during the wars of the 1980s?
Millions of Vietnamese? support killing a million Indonesians and make
the fact disappear for half a century?
Are we to believe for example that the killings of around five
thousand panamanians where mere military incompetence?
That _all_ such cases are merely incompetence?
Even when we have a few whistleblowers and some evidence to the
contrary?
How could US administrations possibly support more than 36 different
dictators and all their insane killings if they were incapable of
autrocities on their own???
a million people killed in indonesia, vietnam, korea, take a pick from
any of the last century's conflicts.
peoples lives have been no issue for the US government throughout the
world: chile, Zaire,
Mosambique, Angola, Iran, El Salvador, Guatemala, or any of the Latin
American Dictatorships that the varying US administrations have had no
trouble supporting and urging on in their killings of civillians.
Do we know what goes on in the NSA, the CIA or any of the other black
projects or "security" branches of the government, or in the minds of
the people who run them??? do we?
did the military budgets explode in the latter half of the twentieth
century or did it not?
did billions of dollars "disappear" in the Pentagon budgets or did
they not?
is the CIA budget a secret or is it not?
Are there vast amounts of secret budgets, secret contractors,
surveillance, secrecy, or are there not?
the whole US government is so riddled with secrecy, threats,
laws,coersion, disappearances of documents, secrecy stamps, acts, and
this is somehow _not_ a tell tale sign that something is horribly
wrong and horribly rotten???
if this is not the case Then what on earth was Eisenhower warning us
against???!!!
then why are we fighting it?
why have people always been fighting power, talking truth to power,
been jailed, tortured?
Are we so naive that we truly believe that Hitler, Mussolini,Stalin,
Mao, Pol Pot, Pinochet,
Mobutu, Botha, Suharto, and hundreds and hundreds of other leaders are
_the_ only examples,
of leaders who disregard human life, justice or the rule of law, and
that it could not possibly be perpetrated on US citizens?
Why would US leaders care about a mere 3000 US civillian casualties???
are the lives of US civillians that holy to leaders who can kill a
million vietnamese,and cripple two million more, drop napalm on women
and children, and starve five hundred thousand iraqi children to
death ???
the killing of thousands of US troops in any of the scores of unjust
conflicts _created_ by US administrations.
Have _any_ power hungry organisation wether openly criminal or not,
the elites, secret brotherhoods _ever_ had a serious _problem_
murdering their opponents, or their own when they step out of line or
"talk"?????????
If secrecy was a problem for the elites then why do we still have no
answer as to who really owns the Federal Reserve?
why are the Bilderbergers virtually totally air tight? why are tonnes
of information kept secret from the public even though it is well
known to the supposed opponents, printed in other contries books-
presses?
In the "secret" wars of Latin America, the CIA's ivolvement everywhere
as in Chile, is still a "secret", but a secret in the open now, but
even so _noone_ is tried, noone is held accountable, no justice is
upheld, so why should any administration be afraid of letting its
demons run amok through the CIA, NSA, or any other group of powermad
lunatics with murderous schemes with no regard for human suffering?
They have most certainly time and time again _proven_ beyond a shadow
of a doubt that they have _absolute_ and total_ disregard for human
lives, the rule of law, justice or any human dignity!!
this we KNOW!
Anyone _pretending otherwise is _lying through his _teeth_ to both
himself and all others!
And we are of course still supposed to believe that _both_ the
Kennedys were victims of lone nutcases?
Why on God's green earth do we have to belive such a totally ludicrous
idea when all rational investigation and evidence points massively to
the opposite?
When we have a few whistleblowers and some evidence to the contrary,
we usually follow the lead investigate, draw up plausible scenarios
etc.
But _suddenly_, with 911 _all_ whistleblowers are liars, loons, not
even worthy of disproving,
reading, or rationally debating?
The mob, mafia was only partly taken down because they had a much
bigger opponent, not because they by nature would rat on each other as
a law of nature, but because a huge apparatus had to be started to
even get to the few individuals eventually to stand trial.
There is a simple rational question all serious police investigation
_has_ to start with:
_who_ stood to _gain_?
And to find out one also has to ask series of similar questions:
who _wants_ the truth hidden?
who _hides_ the truth?
who distorts evidence
who witholds evidence?
who destroys evidence?
who keeps evidence secret?
who keeps motives secret?
who blames others?
Are we supposed to leave ALL rational thought when it comes to 911 ???
THINK!
And _answer_ your own conciousness!
Are we supposed to leave ALL rational thought when it comes to 911 ???
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25 Feb 2007 02:28:18 AM |
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On Feb 24, 6:56 pm, "Ormen Lange" <lagerb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
9/11: The Birth of Treason (Feb 13, 2007)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-710213549148507636
_who_ stood to _gain_?
israel, the world bank, the bush administration, arms dealers
And to find out one also has to ask series of similar questions:
who _wants_ the truth hidden?
who _hides_ the truth?
who distorts evidence
who witholds evidence?
who destroys evidence?
who keeps evidence secret?
who keeps motives secret?
who blames others?
israel, the bush administration
http://www.google.com/search?q=israel+911
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23 Feb 2007 01:13:13 AM |
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On Feb 22, 3:04 pm, (Al Dykes) wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-MCCZ3O1M
Speak english. Make your point, don't just point to a video.
A picture is worth a thousand words. The video makes his point.
We get tired of explaining simple ideas to people who are incapable of
thinking for themselves and especially to those who haven't done any
research and just assume that politicians and big media would never
lie to them.
If Jim E. Loon would have typed the word "thermate" into a dictionary,
encyclopedia, wikipedia, Google, or Google Video - he wouldn't be
making the absurd insinuation that thermate doesn't exist.
With Hatto's 4 second video that he was able to post in under a minute
- he saved his valuable time instead of wasting it educating someone
that could have looked it up for himself and probably doesn't even
care anyway. Those of us that do care - don't need this explained to
us - we want more sources and more new information; I hadn't seen this
clip yet & I'm glad he posted it.
Google video is a wealth of information. It is much easier to
understand and verify information when you can see it and hear it -
instead of just reading text. If I told you that babies were being
born in Iraq and Afghanastan with no legs and no arms with little
hands coming out of their shoulders because they were born with
depleted uranium poisoning (also known as Desert Storm Syndrome) -
that would be very hard to swallow. But if you just typed "depleted
uranium defects" into Google and clicked the images link above the
search bar - you would unquestionably understand exactly what I was
talking about without the need to question the validity of what I
wrote; any picture you click from there is typically on a page with
text, sources, and probably more photos and links.
http://images.google.com/images?q=depleted+uranium+defects
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21 Feb 2007 08:50:26 AM |
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On Feb 12, 10:37 pm, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
"Air Raid" <airraidfigh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
You are one simple loon.
But that's why it works so good in missiles, though.
Since the only thing it has to do with welding
is morons who work for Boeing and box cutters,
Jim E
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22 Feb 2007 07:44:52 AM |
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On Feb 12, 9:37 pm, "Jim E" <YD655...@SEA.edu> wrote:
Thermite is a high speed welding agent.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7231843493488769585
Thermate seems to be another figment of your diseased mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd1-Dp_-7WI
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12 Feb 2007 07:09:41 PM |
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"Air Raid" <airraidfighter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
More absolute proof that "Air Raid" is a blithering KOOK!
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12 Feb 2007 08:57:23 PM |
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the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
more & more people now realize that airliners filled with jetfuel
could NOT, and did not bring down the twin towers,
or Building 7.
Who said there's a shortage of lunatics on the Usenet?
--
Lubow
"Air Raid" <airraidfighter@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
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| User: "" |
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14 Feb 2007 10:04:17 AM |
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:57:23 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
more & more people now realize that airliners filled with jetfuel
could NOT, and did not bring down the twin towers,
or Building 7.
Who said there's a shortage of lunatics on the Usenet?
You're here aren't you *****?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ICTS.html
All 9/11 Airports Serviced by
One Israeli Owned Company
It's one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news
report triggers a revelation.
In the article at http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm there
is the following paragraph:
"To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS,
owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands,
was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers
boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers.
The company covers security at Boston’s Logan airport, where the
American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and
passengers overpowered Reid."
The point of the article was that ICTS knew shoe bomber Richard Reid
was dangerous, but allowed him on board a flight from Tel Aviv to
Paris. Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. But the idea that an
Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch
an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo
Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World
Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the
hijacked planes had even left the ground.
So, I went back to another story that had surfaced briefly, reported
at www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26626 about how
at least one hijacker had smuggled a GUN aboard one of the hijacked
planes. Even prior to 9-11, getting a gun on board a passenger plane
represented a serious lapse of security. I wondered why this story of
a gun was being concealed behind talk of box cutters and screwdrivers.
Then I went back to the first article and its mention that ICTS
handled security at Logan International Airport, from which two of the
9-11 hijacked planes had departed.
Sure enough, a visit to ICTS' own web site at http://www.icts-int.com/
confirms that ICTS is in fact an Israeli owned company, and that it
sells services to every airport from which the hijacked planes
operated, including security, sometimes through wholly owned
subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.
It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four
aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the
resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the
revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked
plane. One company had automatic inside access to all of the airports
from which hijacked planes departed on 9-11, and to the airports used
by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. An Israeli company. One that Mossad
agents could easily find employment with without the management
knowing who they were or what their purpose really was.
But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew
enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had
even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli
security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights
from leaving...
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14 Feb 2007 11:02:58 PM |
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You're here aren't you *****?
Hey, you're my *****, little girl!
--
Lubow
<smacktalk@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:kcc6t2d2v7feg9gm9sp5rpe9haurei5ks5@4ax.com...
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:57:23 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
more & more people now realize that airliners filled with jetfuel
could NOT, and did not bring down the twin towers,
or Building 7.
Who said there's a shortage of lunatics on the Usenet?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ICTS.html
All 9/11 Airports Serviced by
One Israeli Owned Company
It's one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news
report triggers a revelation.
In the article at http://afrocubaweb.com/news/israelispying.htm there
is the following paragraph:
"To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS,
owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands,
was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers
boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers.
The company covers security at Boston's Logan airport, where the
American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and
passengers overpowered Reid."
The point of the article was that ICTS knew shoe bomber Richard Reid
was dangerous, but allowed him on board a flight from Tel Aviv to
Paris. Maybe they did and maybe they didn't. But the idea that an
Israeli owned company had inside access to the airport used to launch
an abortive terror attack brought to mind the strange message Odigo
Systems, another Israeli owned company with offices near the World
Trade Towers, received that warned of the impending attacks before the
hijacked planes had even left the ground.
So, I went back to another story that had surfaced briefly, reported
at www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26626 about how
at least one hijacker had smuggled a GUN aboard one of the hijacked
planes. Even prior to 9-11, getting a gun on board a passenger plane
represented a serious lapse of security. I wondered why this story of
a gun was being concealed behind talk of box cutters and screwdrivers.
Then I went back to the first article and its mention that ICTS
handled security at Logan International Airport, from which two of the
9-11 hijacked planes had departed.
Sure enough, a visit to ICTS' own web site at http://www.icts-int.com/
confirms that ICTS is in fact an Israeli owned company, and that it
sells services to every airport from which the hijacked planes
operated, including security, sometimes through wholly owned
subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.
It has been suggested that the incredible feat of hijacking four
aircraft without a single arrest at the gate would require the
resources of a nation-state. This is even more true with the
revelation that at least one gun had managed to be aboard a hijacked
plane. One company had automatic inside access to all of the airports
from which hijacked planes departed on 9-11, and to the airports used
by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. An Israeli company. One that Mossad
agents could easily find employment with without the management
knowing who they were or what their purpose really was.
But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo warning, someone knew
enough about the planned attacks to warn Odigo before the planes had
even departed the airport gates, yet they did not call the Israeli
security company at the airports which could have stopped the flights
from leaving...
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15 Feb 2007 05:29:56 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:02:58 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
You're here aren't you *****?
Hey, you're my *****, little girl!
Very original...
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| User: "lubow" |
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15 Feb 2007 03:26:00 PM |
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Very original...
Are you telling me I'm not the first to call you, "little girl?"
Ok... not every boy is masculine. This is a big country -- there's room for
everyone, even smacktalk the little girl with the dirty boy's mouth.
--
Lubow
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| User: "" |
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16 Feb 2007 04:36:01 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:26:00 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
Very original...
Are you telling me I'm not the first to call you, "little girl?"
Ok... not every boy is masculine. This is a big country -- there's room for
everyone, even smacktalk the little girl with the dirty boy's mouth.
Yarmulkes and big bellies are very masculine.
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| User: "lubow" |
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16 Feb 2007 09:01:30 PM |
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Yarmulkes and big bellies are very masculine.
Tell it to the Pope and to the Cardinals.
--
Lubow
<smacktalk@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:7dcct2dktfjg4ddu13b0cj166te32oep0e@4ax.com...
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:26:00 GMT, "lubow" <lubow@lubow-industries.com>
wrote:
Very original...
Are you telling me I'm not the first to call you, "little girl?"
Ok... not every boy is masculine. This is a big country -- there's room
for
everyone, even smacktalk the little girl with the dirty boy's mouth.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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12 Feb 2007 06:38:25 PM |
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In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air Raid at
airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
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| User: "Mike Flannigan" |
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12 Feb 2007 07:13:27 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:5M7Ah.468$_73.67@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air Raid at
airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
Apparently not. He's is still on the loose.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
12 Feb 2007 07:27:00 PM |
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In News Rg8Ah.4097$B8.3556@bignews6.bellsouth.net,, Mike Flannigan at
mflannigan@bellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:5M7Ah.468$_73.67@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air
Raid at airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
Apparently not. He's is still on the loose.
LOL! True.
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| User: "Mike Flannigan" |
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| Title: Re: more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
12 Feb 2007 07:35:04 PM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:Et8Ah.1446$Jl.390@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News Rg8Ah.4097$B8.3556@bignews6.bellsouth.net,, Mike Flannigan at
mflannigan@bellsouth.net, typed this:
"Andrealphus" <NOTAREALEMAIL_1@FAM.NET> wrote in message
news:5M7Ah.468$_73.67@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air
Raid at airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
Apparently not. He's is still on the loose.
LOL! True.
Unless of course they've given the inmates over at the asylum access to the
Internet...
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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12 Feb 2007 08:33:48 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air Raid at
airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
I have presented sufficient evidence to my Congressman, Steny Hoyer. He has
taken no action.
--
Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Mike Flannigan" |
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12 Feb 2007 09:53:09 PM |
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"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:-5mdnX_W4dQRvkzYnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air Raid
at
airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
I have presented sufficient evidence to my Congressman, Steny Hoyer. He
has
taken no action.
That's because he's laughing too hard to respond.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
12 Feb 2007 08:39:57 PM |
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In News -5mdnX_W4dQRvkzYnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net,, Hatto von
Aquitanien at abbot@AugiaDives.hre, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air
Raid at airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
I have presented sufficient evidence to my Congressman, Steny Hoyer.
He has taken no action.
Did he say why not? You can't just give up after one rejection, push until
it gives! You feel strongly enough to broadcast it all of us, but you give
up after one rejection from one congressman? C'mon! Man up a set and keep
trying!
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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| Title: Re: more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
12 Feb 2007 08:44:18 PM |
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Andrealphus wrote:
In News -5mdnX_W4dQRvkzYnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net,, Hatto von
Aquitanien at abbot@AugiaDives.hre, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air
Raid at airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
I have presented sufficient evidence to my Congressman, Steny Hoyer.
He has taken no action.
Did he say why not?
No.
You can't just give up after one rejection, push
until
it gives! You feel strongly enough to broadcast it all of us, but you
give
up after one rejection from one congressman? C'mon! Man up a set and
keep trying!
I have repeatedly contacted his office on the matter.
I'm just measuring out rope these days.
--
Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Mike Flannigan" |
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| Title: Re: more absolute proof that all WTC buildings were rigged with explosives, that's what brought them down |
12 Feb 2007 09:56:32 PM |
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"Hatto von Aquitanien" <abbot@AugiaDives.hre> wrote in message
news:fsKdnWAr_-uZu0zYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
Andrealphus wrote:
In News -5mdnX_W4dQRvkzYnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@speakeasy.net,, Hatto von
Aquitanien at abbot@AugiaDives.hre, typed this:
Andrealphus wrote:
In News 1171326972.671938.21530@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com,, Air
Raid at airraidfighter@gmail.com, typed this:
http://archives.gsradio.net:8080/rliberty/rl02-08-07a.rm
the planes did not bring the World Trade Center buildings down, pre-
planted explosives did, probably thermite or thermate.
Have you presented your evidence to the appropriate authorities yet?
I have presented sufficient evidence to my Congressman, Steny Hoyer.
He has taken no action.
Did he say why not?
No.
That's because he didn't want to come right out and tell you are a idiot.
You can't just give up after one rejection, push
until
it gives! You feel strongly enough to broadcast it all of us, but you
give
up after one rejection from one congressman? C'mon! Man up a set and
keep trying!
I have repeatedly contacted his office on the matter.
I'm just measuring out rope these days.
When you get enough, hang yourself. One less kook voter unfairly determining
the destiny of me and mine.
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