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User: "Roedy Green"
Date: 16 Feb 2004 11:59:47 PM
Object: Moveon.org
MoveOn is now over two million people strong in the United States.
That's a huge number: the organization we've built together is bigger
than the Christian Coalition at its peak. To put it another way, one
in every 146 Americans is now a MoveOn member . And we're still
growing fast.
Over 170,000 people opened their checkbooks and contributed an average
of about $60 to put ads on the air that challenge Bush and his
corporate backers.
This is something new in American politics.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.

User: "Dana 1"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 12:20:13 AM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
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MoveOn

Is a bunch of idiots
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User: "Billary"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 12:53:47 AM
"Dana" <1> wrote in message
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"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
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MoveOn


Congrats to moveon, this is what this country needed is a political action
committee!
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User: "Leland Milton Goldblatt PhD"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 25 Feb 2004 09:38:44 PM
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"Dana" <1> wrote in message
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MoveOn


Congrats to moveon, this is what this country needed is a political action
committee!

Great news! The below article shows how MAD the masses are at George
W.Bush (a murdering psychopath un elected pRestident) who lied about
why we went to war, and is an unelected drunk who should be in jail.
Hitler was elected, but Bush was appointed by the United States
Supreme Court.
Disenchanted Bush Voters Consider Crossing Over
February 22, 2004
Disenchanted Bush Voters Consider Crossing Over
By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL
EACHWOOD, Ohio — In the 2000 presidential election, Bill Flanagan a
semiretired newspaper worker, happily voted for George W. Bush. But
now, shaking his head, he vows, "Never again."
"The combination of lies and boys coming home in body bags is just too
awful," Mr. Flanagan said, drinking coffee and reading newspapers at
the local mall. "I could vote for Kerry. I could vote for any Democrat
unless he's a real dummy."
Mr. Flanagan is hardly alone, even though polls show that the
overwhelming majority of Republicans who supported Mr. Bush in 2000
will do so again in November. In dozens of random interviews around
the country, independents and Republicans who said they voted for Mr.
Bush in 2000 say they intend to vote for the Democratic presidential
candidate this year. Some polls are beginning to bolster the idea of
those kind of stirrings among Republicans and independents.
That could change, of course, once the Bush campaign begins pumping
millions of dollars into advertising and making the case for his
re-election.
But even as Democratic and Republican strategists and pollsters warned
that a shift could be transitory, they also said it could prove to be
extraordinarily consequential in a year when each side is focused on
turning out its most loyal voters.
"The strong Republicans are with him," a senior aide to Senator John
Kerry said of Mr. Bush. "But there are independent-minded Republicans
among whom he is having serious problems."
"With the nation so polarized," he added, "the defections of a few can
make a big difference."
In the interviews, many of those potential "crossover" voters said
they supported the invasion of Iraq but had come to see the continuing
involvement there as too costly and without clear objectives.
Many also said they believed that the Bush administration had not been
honest about its reasons for invading Iraq and were concerned about
the failure to find unconventional weapons. Some of these people
described themselves as fiscal conservatives who were alarmed by
deficit spending, combined with job losses at home. Many are shocked
to find themselves switching sides.
While sharing a sandwich at the stylish Beachwood Mall in this
Cleveland suburb, one older couple — a judge and a teacher —
reluctantly divulged their secret: though they are stalwarts in the
local Republican Party, they are planning to vote Democratic this
year.
"I feel like a complete traitor, and if you'd asked me four months
ago, the answer would have been different," said the judge, after
assurances of anonymity. "But we are really disgusted. It's the lies,
the war, the economy. We have very good friends who are staunch
Republicans, who don't even want to hear the name George Bush
anymore."
In 2000, Mr. Bush won here in Ohio with 50 percent of the popular
vote, as against 46.5 percent for Al Gore.
George Meagher, a Republican who founded and now runs the American
Military Museum in Charleston, S.C., said he threw his "heart and
soul" into the Bush campaign four years ago. He organized veterans to
attend campaign events, including the campaign's kickoff speech at the
Citadel. He even has photographs of himself and his wife with Mr.
Bush.
"Given the outcome and how dissatisfied I am with the administration,
it's hard to think about now," he said. "People like me, we're all
choking a bit at not supporting the president. But when I think about
500 people killed and what we've done to Iraq. And what we've done to
our country. I mean, we're already $2 trillion in debt again."
A nationwide CBS News poll released Feb. 16 found that 11 percent of
people who voted for Mr. Bush in 2000 now say they will vote for the
Democratic candidate this fall. But there was some falloff among those
who voted against him as well. Five percent of people who said they
voted for Mr. Gore in 2000 say this time they will back Mr. Bush.
On individual issues, the poll found some discontent among Republicans
but substantial discontent among independents. For instance, on
handling the nation's economy, 19 percent of Republicans and 56
percent of independents said they disapproved of the job Mr. Bush was
doing.
"As the president's job rating has fallen, his Democratic supporters
have pulled away first, then the independents and now we're starting
to see a bit of erosion among the Republicans, who used to support him
pretty unanimously," said Evans Witt, the chief executive of Princeton
Survey Research Associates. "If 10 to 15 percent of Republicans do not
support him anymore, that is not trivial for Bush's re-election."
But Matthew Dowd, the Bush campaign's chief strategist, suggested that
no one in the White House was worried about Mr. Bush's losing much of
his base. He said polls continued to show that the president was
enjoying the support of 90 percent of Republicans.
Many of those interviewed said that they had experienced a growing
disenchantment with the conflict in Iraq over many months, but that
only recently had they decided to change their votes.
A number said they had been deeply disturbed by recent statements of
David A. Kay, the former United Nations weapons inspector, who said he
was skeptical about administration claims that Iraq possessed
unconventional weapons.
"The lack of evidence on Iraq has really hurt him, and the economy
here is bad — there's a lot of unemployment in the mills," said
Phyllis Pierce, who is in the steel business in Cleveland and recently
decided not to vote for Mr. Bush again.
John Scarnado, a sales manager from Austin, Tex., who voted for Mr.
Bush in 2000, said he would vote for Mr. Kerry if the senator won the
Democratic nomination.
"I'm upset about Iraq and the vice president and his affiliation with
Halliburton," said Mr. Scarnado, a registered Republican who said that
he had not always voted along party lines. "I think the Bush
administration is coming out to look like old boy politics, and I
don't have a good feel about that."
Many of those wavering in their loyalty to Mr. Bush were middle-class
voters who said that his tax relief programs had disproportionately
helped the wealthy.
"I voted for him, but it seems like he's just taking care of his rich
buddies now," said Mike Cross, a farmer from Londonderry, N.H.,
adding, "I'm not a great fan of John Kerry, but I've had enough of
President Bush."
FAIR USE NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of
which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright
owner. Prof. Goldblatt is making such material available in an effort
to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights,
economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. Dr.
Goldblatt believes this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such
copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US
Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
Shalom,
---Prof. Leland Milton Goldblatt, Ph.D. ®
Reverend Chancellor Leland Milton Goldblatt Ph.D. ED.D. M.F.A, D.Div.
M.Theo .
Copyright © 2004
http://www.prof.faithweb.com
http://drgoldblatt.blogspot.com/
http://www.voxfux.com
http://www.bushflash.com/nazi.html
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/
(773) 731-1100
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 26 Feb 2004 10:05:19 AM
In article (Leland Milton Goldblatt PhD) wrote:
...

"With the nation so polarized," he added,
"the defections of a few can make a big difference."

...
As the Dean campaign demonstrated?
What ^DID^ the Dean campaign demonstrate?
A: Voting is for old people.
Your Rights are NOT subject to the referendum of the popular vote.
You want to save the world? Save yourself.
You want to be free? Start doing it.
Vote? HA! {:^D
Think about it.
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User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 01:24:46 AM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 06:20:13 GMT, "Dana" <1> wrote or quoted :

Is a bunch of idiots

That tells us something of your mental state, but nothing about
moveon.org. What are they doing that you consider foolish? Do you
think putting out TV ads will have no effect? Do you think trying to
raise money over the internet is fruitless?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.


User: "Wake Up America"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 12:01:02 AM
"Roedy Green" <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message
news:hbb330p3e2k2fcup88j8v2oqonta7c2e7g@4ax.com...

MoveOn is now over two million people strong in the United States.
That's a huge number: the organization we've built together is bigger
than the Christian Coalition at its peak. To put it another way, one
in every 146 Americans is now a MoveOn member . And we're still
growing fast.

Over 170,000 people opened their checkbooks and contributed an average
of about $60 to put ads on the air that challenge Bush and his
corporate backers.


This is something new in American politics.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

"Corporations have been enthroned. An era of corruption in high places will
follow and the money power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on
the prejudices of the people until wealth is aggregated in a few hands and
the Republic is destroyed. "
-Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
.

User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 08:28:03 AM
In article see mindprod.com wrote:

MoveOn is ...

Moveon is founded by two people
who's singular contribution to civilization was the flying-toaster screensaver.
Moveon is a staff of 8 people funded deep pockets who
think they can get into politics with a checkbook.
That as wave after wave of terror appear on the horizon
like so many luftwaffe did during WW ][, they will be
the one's who insist that consequence be inconsequential,
that the motivation of each pilot be unknowable, be prosecuted individually.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/14476.jpg
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User: ""

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 09:34:34 AM
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote in
news:TxpYb.7210$WW3.1763@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/14476.jpg

Wow, homophobia, mysogynism and anti-semitic all at once.
WAY TO GO!
.

User: "Relaxification"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 25 Feb 2004 07:57:23 PM
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote in message news:<TxpYb.7210$WW3.1763@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...

In article see mindprod.com wrote:

MoveOn is ...


Moveon is founded by two people
who's singular contribution to civilization was the flying-toaster screensaver.
Moveon is a staff of 8 people funded deep pockets who
think they can get into politics with a checkbook.

That as wave after wave of terror appear on the horizon
like so many luftwaffe did during WW ][, they will be
the one's who insist that consequence be inconsequential,
that the motivation of each pilot be unknowable, be prosecuted individually.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/14476.jpg

You're an *****. If the big issue is terrorism then why all the
hooplah over something as inconsequential as gay marriage?
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User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 25 Feb 2004 08:17:11 PM
Isn't it obvious why?
http://graphics.theonion.com/pics_3735/a_shattered_nation.jpg
A shattered Nation longs to care about Stoopid ***** once again.
That as the world is reduced to a state not unlike a log tumbling
end-over-end down the raging rapids, its people reduced to little
more than ants clinging to it for their very lives, all that the
politico thugs shriek the loudest about is championing the depraved,
all-the-while declaring themselves: Captain!
http://www.tor.at/resources/fun_stuff/www.attrition.org/gallery/politics/clinton/clinton-for-life.gif
This is Clinton's Bridge.
A Glasnost to (T)error the likes
of which the world has never seen.
A Bridge which is NO BRIDGE because it span no river,
A Legacy which is NO LEGACY because it embody no legitimacy,
A World Safe for Socialism being NO WORLD because no one's rights are secure.
Clinton don't surf.
-- He did what he did with knowledge
and premeditation, daring us to stop him.
Thank YOU! Bill Clinton. (once again).
For Being There at the Pinnacle of our Civilization
to ***** IT ALL AWAY.
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User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 02:48:30 PM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:28:03 GMT,
(MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote or quoted :

Moveon is a staff of 8 people funded deep pockets who
think they can get into politics with a checkbook.

Soros has deep pockets, but the main funding comes from 2 million
ordinary Joes who signed up. It is very much a grass roots thing.
You are right, politics is about money. The difference is the
moveon.org people just want democracy restored. They are not asking
for special favours like Enron and other special interests
contributing to the Republicans.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 09:23:30 PM
In article see mindprod.com wrote:

(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote or quoted :

Moveon is a staff of 8 people funded deep pockets who
think they can get into politics with a checkbook.


Soros has deep pockets, but the main funding comes from 2 million
ordinary Joes who signed up. It is very much a grass roots thing.

You are right, politics is about money. The difference is the
moveon.org people just want democracy restored.

Who's Democracy?
And at what cost?
Shall the Rights of the Guilty to Terrorize be not infringed?
What is the purpose of gov't which puts Terrorists and their
Terror on TV while putting business in court;
this is factually how the world got where it is today:
by
Rewarding the Guilty,
by Punishing the Innocent,
by Championing the Depraved on the basis of their Depravity.
Q: Exactly what is it that they are proposing that is any different?
except to accellerate the process, to literally declare open season
on all Americans, to seize their property and use it to fund their Antagonists.
The world is in the shape it is NOT because
their advice was NOT heeded, but precisely BECAUSE it was.
This is Clinton's Bridge.
Nu-Koolaide for ALL!
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User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 12:43:45 AM
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:23:30 GMT,
(MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote or quoted :

hall the Rights of the Guilty to Terrorize be not infringed?

What is the purpose of gov't which puts Terrorists and their
Terror on TV while putting business in court;
this is factually how the world got where it is today:
by
Rewarding the Guilty,
by Punishing the Innocent,
by Championing the Depraved on the basis of their Depravity.

Q: Exactly what is it that they are proposing that is any different?
except to accellerate the process, to literally declare open season
on all Americans, to seize their property and use it to fund their Antagonists.

I am sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you
try rephrasing?
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 09:33:42 AM
In article see mindprod.com wrote:

(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote or quoted :

Shall the Rights of the Guilty to Terrorize be not infringed?

What is the purpose of gov't which puts Terrorists and their
Terror on TV while putting business in court;
this is factually how the world got where it is today:
by
Rewarding the Guilty,
by Punishing the Innocent,
by Championing the Depraved on the basis of their Depravity.

Q: Exactly what is it that they are proposing that is any different?
except to accellerate the process, to literally declare open season
on all Americans, to seize their property and use it to fund their

Antagonists.

I am sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about.
Could you try rephrasing?

What is it that they propose that is any different (or better)?
Why should unilateral capitulation to an Evil
which knows no compromise be viewed
as a noble sentiment?
Why should we fund our Antagonists?
Why should the Guilty be Rewarded?
Why should the Innocent be Punished?
Why should Depravity be Championed on the basis of their Depravity?
The absence of a vocalized response on the part of pointy headed liberals
is that all of these notions are not-only so-core to their beliefs that they are
never questioned. Considered axiomatically true, they exhort Evil because it is Evil,
they oppose Good because it is Good, and propitiate no other notion than sacrifice of
the Good to the Evil.

To think, they shirk at their duty to proclaim the rightful legacy of Clinton:
A Glasnost to Terror the likes of which the World has never seen.
This is Clinton's Bridge.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ladyejane/911-10-flag.JPG
.



User: "The Finger"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 08:54:30 PM
Roedy Green wrote:

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:28:03 GMT,

(MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote or quoted :


Moveon is a staff of 8 people funded deep pockets who
think they can get into politics with a checkbook.



Soros has deep pockets, but the main funding comes from 2 million
ordinary Joes who signed up. It is very much a grass roots thing.

You are right, politics is about money. The difference is the
moveon.org people just want democracy restored. They are not asking
for special favours like Enron and other special interests
contributing to the Republicans.

--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

The lie detector video with a voice over of Bush telling whoopers about
Iraq is a classic. It's one of the most powerful political ads I have
ever seen.
.
User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 12:42:54 AM
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:54:30 GMT, The Finger <eelder1@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote or quoted :

The lie detector video with a voice over of Bush telling whoopers about
Iraq is a classic. It's one of the most powerful political ads I have
ever seen.

However it is slightly misleading. It is a takeoff on the Olay skin
cream ad with the age lie detector. Dumb folk may think this is an
ACTUAL lie detector somehow hooked up to analyse Bush's voice.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.




User: "Starvin Marvin"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 03:15:17 PM
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<hbb330p3e2k2fcup88j8v2oqonta7c2e7g@4ax.com>...

MoveOn is now over two million people strong in the United States.
That's a huge number: the organization we've built together is bigger
than the Christian Coalition at its peak. To put it another way, one
in every 146 Americans is now a MoveOn member . And we're still
growing fast.

Over 170,000 people opened their checkbooks and contributed an average
of about $60 to put ads on the air that challenge Bush and his
corporate backers.


This is something new in American politics.

You are not in the United States you dumb fucking Canuck...like most
of the members of Moveon.org you are a foreign Socialists, anti-US,
leftwing nutcase. Moveon was founded with the sole purpose of trying
to bail Clinton out of his messes. Here is the kicker....it worked.
They were able to have the whole Lewinsky debacle rise it's head just
as questions about Clinton and Gore's Communist China's money ties
were picking up steam. Like moveon Clinton took money from Chinese
criminals. Do a google search on Operation Dragon Fire if you are
really interested.
.
User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 17 Feb 2004 05:54:11 PM
On 17 Feb 2004 13:15:17 -0800,
(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

. Moveon was founded with the sole purpose of trying
to bail Clinton out of his messes.

They talk about that on the website. They wanted the country to get
on with substantive issues and stop its obsession with Clinton's
penis.
Now they have grown much much bigger. The purpose of the organisation
now is to defeat Bush.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "Starvin Marvin"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 08:23:58 AM
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<saa53099hep1cdvfs54cdhv7i4n4cdagne@4ax.com>...

On 17 Feb 2004 13:15:17 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

. Moveon was founded with the sole purpose of trying
to bail Clinton out of his messes.


They talk about that on the website. They wanted the country to get
on with substantive issues and stop its obsession with Clinton's
penis.

Now they have grown much much bigger. The purpose of the organisation
now is to defeat Bush.

Nice move...you dodged all my points..
1) You are not in the US
2) Moveon is funded mostly by foreign Socialists
3) They were not trying to stop the US obsession with Clintons sex
life...they were trying to promote it to cover up his Chinese scandal.
The same scandal that will very soon topple Kerry, as he was part of
it. Check the web for details. Newsmax has the Kerry piece on there
today!!
.
User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 06:49:53 PM
On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,
(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

1) You are not in the US

what has this got to do with the price of eggs?
I am not totally sure of this, but I think PAC groups like moveon.org
are legally allowed to collect money from outside the county, but they
can't put out any ads 60 days prior to an election.
Parties themselves are not allowed to collect money outside the
county.
Most PACs support Republicans. You are freaked seeing this loophole
being used by the Democrats. If it is unfair, then close the
loopholes for BOTH parties.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.

User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 06:47:08 PM
On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,
(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

2) Moveon is funded mostly by foreign Socialists

Why do you think this?
Soros is an American. He is the big bucks behind it.
Moveon.org puts on events in America. If it were largely foreigners
behind it, how could they attend? Look at the map of events on their
home page.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "Elmer Thudd"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 11:31:08 PM
Roedy Green wrote:

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :


2) Moveon is funded mostly by foreign Socialists



Why do you think this?

Soros is an American. He is the big bucks behind it.

1 - a few posts back, you said that tyhe BGIG money came from little
people everywhere...
2 - Soros is NOT an American any more than a worm in a dog's guts is canine.
http://www.soros.org.mk/osi/soros/en/biogra.htm
"George Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary in 1930. He emigrated to
England in 1947 and graduated from the London School of Economics in
1952. In 1956, he moved to the United States."
Look around soros.org and try to say (with a straight face) that Soros
isn't a foreign socialist.
.
User: "John Griffin"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 12:30:50 AM
Elmer Thudd <wabbit@wabbit.net> wrote:

Roedy Green wrote:

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,


(Starvin Marvin) wrote or quoted :


2) Moveon is funded mostly by foreign Socialists



Why do you think this?

Soros is an American. He is the big bucks behind it.


1 - a few posts back, you said that tyhe BGIG money came
from little people everywhere...

2 - Soros is NOT an American any more than a worm in a
dog's guts is canine.

http://www.soros.org.mk/osi/soros/en/biogra.htm
"George Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary in 1930. He
emigrated to England in 1947 and graduated from the London
School of Economics in 1952. In 1956, he moved to the
United States."

Look around soros.org and try to say (with a straight face)
that Soros isn't a foreign socialist.

Rabid Roedy can say anything with a straight face, since he's
barely aware of what's spewing out of it.


.

User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 03:44:04 AM
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:31:08 GMT, Elmer Thudd <wabbit@wabbit.net>
wrote or quoted :

2 - Soros is NOT an American any more than a worm in a dog's guts is canine.


If he has been living in the USA since 1956 he must be either a landed
immigrant or a citizen. He has been an American longer than you have.
He made his bucks in the USA.
--
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Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 08:51:40 AM
In article see mindprod.com wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:31:08 GMT, Elmer Thudd

2 - Soros is NOT an American any more than a worm in a dog's guts is canine.


If he has been living in the USA since 1956 he must be either a landed
immigrant or a citizen. He has been an American longer than you have.

He made his bucks in the USA.

Soros made billions by destroying the currencies and lives of
the people of the Pacific Rim, Russia and England,
paving the way for pan-pacific radical Islamicism.
.



User: "Steveo"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 09:08:34 AM
Roedy Green wrote:

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :


2) Moveon is funded mostly by foreign Socialists



Why do you think this?

Because he's an idiot.


Soros is an American. He is the big bucks behind it.

Soros sometimes matches little buck donations from the 1.7 million other
members.


Moveon.org puts on events in America. If it were largely foreigners
behind it, how could they attend? Look at the map of events on their
home page.




--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.

--
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there
can be too much of a good thing.
-- Karl Rove, The New Yorker, 02/16/2001
.


User: "Roedy Green"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 18 Feb 2004 06:50:19 PM
On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,
(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

3) They were not trying to stop the US obsession with Clintons sex
life...they were trying to promote it to cover up his Chinese scandal.
The same scandal that will very soon topple Kerry, as he was part of
it. Check the web for details. Newsmax has the Kerry piece on there
today!!

I see. You had spies on the board.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
.
User: "Starvin Marvin"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 08:12:57 AM
Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<v128301j9etom2n96cvbsafbh8tqti0v2r@4ax.com>...

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :

3) They were not trying to stop the US obsession with Clintons sex
life...they were trying to promote it to cover up his Chinese scandal.
The same scandal that will very soon topple Kerry, as he was part of
it. Check the web for details. Newsmax has the Kerry piece on there
today!!


I see. You had spies on the board.

You didn't check out the Kerry link did you?? I didn't expect that you
could handle the truth. You are probably right that both parties take
foreign money, I can't prove otherwise. What concerns me, as an
American, is which foreign groups are sending the money and why. When
Clinton took office China and North Korea did not have the technology
to strike the US with nukes...well by the time he left they did. Do
some research on what went on there. Start by looking up "Operation
Dragon Fire".
.
User: "Steveo"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 19 Feb 2004 09:04:59 AM
Starvin Marvin wrote:

Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<v128301j9etom2n96cvbsafbh8tqti0v2r@4ax.com>...

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :


3) They were not trying to stop the US obsession with Clintons sex
life...they were trying to promote it to cover up his Chinese scandal.
The same scandal that will very soon topple Kerry, as he was part of
it. Check the web for details. Newsmax has the Kerry piece on there
today!!


I see. You had spies on the board.



You didn't check out the Kerry link did you?? I didn't expect that you
could handle the truth. You are probably right that both parties take
foreign money, I can't prove otherwise. What concerns me, as an
American, is which foreign groups are sending the money and why. When
Clinton took office China and North Korea did not have the technology
to strike the US with nukes...well by the time he left they did. Do

That, of course, is a lie.

some research on what went on there. Start by looking up "Operation
Dragon Fire".

--
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless
they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there
can be too much of a good thing.
-- Karl Rove, The New Yorker, 02/16/2001
.
User: "Starvin Marvin"

Title: Re: Moveon.org 20 Feb 2004 08:14:13 AM
Steveo <steveo@end-war.com> wrote in message news:<c12j1i$1dln6i$5@ID-210300.news.uni-berlin.de>...

Starvin Marvin wrote:

Roedy Green <look-at-the-website@mindprod.com> wrote in message news:<v128301j9etom2n96cvbsafbh8tqti0v2r@4ax.com>...

On 18 Feb 2004 06:23:58 -0800,

(Starvin Marvin)
wrote or quoted :


3) They were not trying to stop the US obsession with Clintons sex
life...they were trying to promote it to cover up his Chinese scandal.
The same scandal that will very soon topple Kerry, as he was part of
it. Check the web for details. Newsmax has the Kerry piece on there
today!!


I see. You had spies on the board.



You didn't check out the Kerry link did you?? I didn't expect that you
could handle the truth. You are probably right that both parties take
foreign money, I can't prove otherwise. What concerns me, as an
American, is which foreign groups are sending the money and why. When
Clinton took office China and North Korea did not have the technology
to strike the US with nukes...well by the time he left they did. Do


That, of course, is a lie.


Maybe in your world where the truth is seen through lefty lens...but
in the real world this is fact. Just try to prove me wrong.

some research on what went on there. Start by looking up "Operation
Dragon Fire".

.








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